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2013-05-20 08:25:11 PM

ancker: I didn't say anything about praying instead of donating, did I? I just said there's no need to make atheism the point of your posts.


Yea, I just don't see your point in getting pissy about it. Hundreds of thousands of people right now are running around praying or saying you should pray which accomplishes absolutely nothing and you're pissed off because one or two people on Fark made a crack about religion which accomplishes absolutely nothing?

Get over yourself. Just ignore it if it bothers you and move on.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:19 PM

Minarets: Boards stuck into concrete at the medical center.


Yeah I saw that.  Crazy.  You see isolated pics of that going on but that was a whole wall full.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:28 PM

PacificaFitz: ancker: How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.

It's hard for us non believers to understand why a victim of this type of horrific event would still have faith in an all powerful entity that by their own beliefs caused this.


In all fairness, it's probably a little unfair to expect any sort of rational thought from someone who has survived that kind of experience. I have no idea what I would say if a reporter shoved a camera in my face just after I've narrowly avoided death, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be logical.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:35 PM
@KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:41 PM

ariseatex: Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel

*curls up into ball*


The KFOR reporter lost it while reporting you are not alone.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:42 PM

Warthog: Aaaannd the local hospital has just thrown HIPAA out the window, to announce the name of a 9 year old child in their care and ask the parents to call them.

/I'm OK with this.


Very cool. Fark HIPAA, especially in circumstances such as these.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:42 PM

Bunny Deville: The thing that makes me so sad right now is that if we know, in Huntsville, that there is a strong likelihood of tornadoes, they cancel school well before the storms get here. Not that it probably would have mattered in this case, I understand that...


I was talking to my mom earlier and she asked "Why didn't they close the schools today?"
/Although yea probably wouldn't have mattered.
/So sad.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:53 PM

skozlaw: WHAT THE FARK!

They've been focusing on the school for so long, they just showed some flyovers of a few neighborhoods and it looks like Dresden ten times over....


The path at one point was quite wide and the homes are reduced to scrap lumber and small chunks. It's the worst tornado devastation seen in awhile. Street after street and most folks rode it out in bathtubs and closets.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:55 PM

LunarAtom: Nother round keyed up for tomorrow. Any of you Arklatex farkers take care of yourselves and pay attention tomorrow afternoon. Its going to be bad again.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk.html


Dammit, I'm in Paris, TX / Hugo, OK this week.  Looks like its my turn.
 
2013-05-20 08:25:56 PM
Weather Underground's tornado page is showing a line of angry red boxes. Good God, this is going to get a lot worse.
 
2013-05-20 08:26:19 PM

Shadow Blasko: RatOmeter: JolobinSmokin: I'm in Tulsa and over the past 2 days in Mid-town it has hardly rained and barely any wind, I only brought my trash cans, and lawn furniture cushions inside a couple hours ago and still no weather here.

Just like Stillwater the last couple of days.   Everything,  the bad shiat and the rain, just went south and west.

Old joke.  There's a lot of people in Oklahoma City and quite a few people in Norman.  But there's Moore people in between.

/a few less tonight.
//Damned sad people didn't take extraordinary measures, like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

Norman NWS had a big, bloody map predicting where this stuff would happen published before 11am this morning.

/sobs

Generally they only make plans for that kind of action if the NWS issues a PDS (Particularly Dangerous Situation) warning. Those are extremely rare, and I do not believe that there was one today.

Also, I know this is not going to be a popular opinion at the moment, but your kids are generally safer in school than they are at home in this case. RARELY are their mass casualty events at schools.

In this case, and in the case of an EF5, it would not matter. School won't protect you, home wont protect you. Unless you are underground you are in deep crap.


Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out
 
2013-05-20 08:26:36 PM

Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.


Guarantee they're going after the oxy.
 
2013-05-20 08:26:55 PM
aedude01:
How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.

Depends.  Is it a school of fish?

/probably too soon for jokes
 
2013-05-20 08:26:58 PM

IronTom: Tornadoes are planetary storms.  Defend your self using the planet.  Build underground homes and businesses.

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 97x143]  [assets.dornob.com image 468x313]
Bless the poor OK folks.


That's awesome if you have enough money for a custom home that requires lots of excavation. Or if you like windows or something weird like that.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:05 PM
I was in the damage path in Joplin an hour or so after the tornado went through there. What I'm seeing on TV from the ground and from the air looks uncomfortably similar...entire neighborhoods of houses that are now a pile of boards, not a basement in sight. Cars tossed into piles, wrapped around trees, etc.

Joplin killed 160+ people in a less-populated area (though granted it went right through the middle of the urban area), and it hit on a slow Sunday afternoon, not the middle of a weekday afternoon. It took til the next day before the magnitude of the death toll really became apparent, I fear the same may be the case here.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:14 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: How big are schools in OKC?
My HS had over 4k students.


Some can be pretty big, not sure how big, but the greater OKC area has over 1 million people, it's a city like any other.
But as soon as you leave the city, you're pretty much in BFE.  Other than Tulsa a few towns like Norman/Stillwater, there's not much.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:19 PM

PacificaFitz: ancker: How about you have some empathy for those affected instead of using this tragedy as a soapbox for your atheism.

What is wrong with you people? The victims have enough to deal with, they don't need you trying to rip away the only sense of comfort they have right now.

It's hard for us non believers to understand why a victim of this type of horrific event would still have faith in an all powerful entity that by their own beliefs caused this.


And I'm not saying you should. But that belief is what's comforting these people right now. Why don't you respect their beliefs and let them be for the night?

If my world was just turned upside down, literally, the last thing I'd want to have happen is people running up to me to point out that what was probably a very large part of my life and upbringing was a sham, and I should feel stupid for ever having believed in it.
 
2013-05-20 08:27:49 PM

Bunny Deville: They do here if it's supposed to be really bad. Generally at noon so it counts as a full day.


Hmm, interesting, I lived down in Montgomery for a year (1998-99), and don't remember that happening although we had some bad storms.  I guess it is pretty rare.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:14 PM

WhyteRaven74: skozlaw: They've been focusing on the school for so long, they just showed some flyovers of a few neighborhoods and it looks like Dresden ten times over....

Mile wide tornado, on the ground for 30 miles, including many of those miles in a densely populated area, there's gonna be a lot of that.


Somebody yesterday, was saying Fujita based the scale on damage from nukes.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:15 PM

Vortex Dweller: Uchiha_Cycliste: reillan: That was a particularly small school.

You mean the OKC school(s) that was hit, or my school?

Are you posting while stoned? Go for a bike ride for awhile then remember google still exists.


Honestly, I did some googling to try to figure out my elementary school's size and couldn't. I figured asking would be more likely to get a result
And I can't exercise today, and I hate it.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:16 PM

Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel

*curls up into ball*

The KFOR reporter lost it while reporting you are not alone.


:-(
 
2013-05-20 08:28:17 PM

Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.


Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?
 
2013-05-20 08:28:18 PM

ArtosRC: Weather Underground's tornado page is showing a line of angry red boxes. Good God, this is going to get a lot worse.


Ffs.
 
2013-05-20 08:28:56 PM
Incredible radar loop of the tornado

m.uploadedit.com

/hot linked
 
2013-05-20 08:28:57 PM

TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out


No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.
 
2013-05-20 08:29:09 PM

Begoggle: Uchiha_Cycliste: How big are schools in OKC?
My HS had over 4k students.

Some can be pretty big, not sure how big, but the greater OKC area has over 1 million people, it's a city like any other.
But as soon as you leave the city, you're pretty much in BFE.  Other than Tulsa a few towns like Norman/Stillwater, there's not much.


thanks
 
2013-05-20 08:29:10 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: aedude01:
How the fark do you drown in a school?  That's a horrible way to go.
Depends.  Is it a school of fish?
/probably too soon for jokes


The Oz joke? Funny. This one? Way too soon.
 
2013-05-20 08:29:16 PM
Thanks for the well wishes, farkers. Holding on. Tornader (thats what we call them hete) warning for another 20 minutes or so.
 
2013-05-20 08:29:28 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Guarantee they're going after the oxy.


I'm glad to know that my faith in humanity is....well....just the same as always

/not a whole lot
//bunch of savages in that town
 
2013-05-20 08:30:02 PM
I should source that, I commenter from Jeff Masters WunderBlog

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2 41 1
 
2013-05-20 08:30:09 PM

Minarets: Incredible radar loop of the tornado

[m.uploadedit.com image 640x480]

/hot linked


holy christ!
 
2013-05-20 08:30:10 PM

Tom_Slick: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?


I think everything's pretty chaotic right now. Whatever is going on - the Nat Guard will be on it.
 
2013-05-20 08:30:57 PM

Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.


Well, my wife and I joke that the "tools" are really for the reporters who shove the cameras in our face after the storm, so . . .
 
2013-05-20 08:31:02 PM
At least 37 dead now.  Terrible.
 
2013-05-20 08:31:09 PM
News conference should up any minute.
 
2013-05-20 08:31:35 PM

Tom_Slick: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?


Really?  Ok, I'll give you 0.5% helpers, 99.5% looters.
 
2013-05-20 08:31:56 PM
I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:14 PM

Minarets: Incredible radar loop of the tornado

[m.uploadedit.com image 640x480]

/hot linked


Doesn't get any more textbook than that.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:26 PM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?


The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:39 PM

Bontesla: Tom_Slick: Bontesla: @KFOR: Some looting reporting at the Moore Medical Center, but the National Guard has been deployed to guard the area.

Is it assholes looting or is it people trying to get supplies to help people who 1st responders haven't been able to get to?

I think everything's pretty chaotic right now. Whatever is going on - the Nat Guard will be on it.


Judging from the pictures, the number of injured must be in the thousands.
 
2013-05-20 08:32:44 PM

ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.


probably includes the 7 that drowned, but not the ones they havent dug out yet
 
2013-05-20 08:32:44 PM

CraicBaby: Jesus. KFOR said people are looting. But apparently, the police have said "You loot, we shoot."


OKC is a very large, diverse city. Most of the people will pick up a shovel and start rebuilding. But, there's always an element of looting in all big disasters. Some people will always seek to improve their fortunes at the expense of others. We're better off without that kind of person.

/ if you loots, we shoots
 
2013-05-20 08:32:46 PM
Much of the rotation in the Joplin supercell went to the south of Joplin, and now they are off the gun.
 
2013-05-20 08:33:10 PM
Oh Fark. They're saying it's search and recovery not search and rescue at the school now?

That is just... fark...
 
2013-05-20 08:33:56 PM

RatOmeter: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can I ask a stupid question?
Do tornadoes really have super strong sucking upwards forces like cartoons depict? Or are the winds just really strong spinning winds that sometimes happen to have debris make their way upwards?
Does the question make sense? Put another way, is the center of a tornado like a vacuum or just fierce spinning winds?

The center sucks, mostly because it's part of the structure that's making the horribly destructive winds that are rotating around it.  Those are the part that cause the destruction.


Thanks, and do you know if it always sucks, or only sometimes (in some tornadoes). Or does it always suck but sometimes not as strongly?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:24 PM

slackerboy: I haven't read the thread, but what we've been talking about here is, why the fark don't schools in a tornado zone have a saferoom?  Reinforced concrete, a couple of feet down.  ~75 people is what I've seen.  It doesn't have to be that big, you can cram them in for the hour or so before help gets there.  This country is retarded.


How many kids wen't to your elementary school? Mine had 200 or so could you build a safe room large enough for the entire school population, where it would still be cost/risk effective? What about for middle or high schools?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:25 PM

Shadow Blasko: TommyDeuce: Sounds like underground didn't work out so well for some at the school.

/Still the best place
//Our "Tornado Room" has a wrecking bar and a hatchet in it for digging/hacking out

No, in this case it didn't.

95% of the time it is. It's also easier for emergency services after the storm.

And good! I am glad you are prepared. I've been in many tornadoes and I have a "go bag" and a good precaution list too.. but, not everyone does.


My house is on a slab and has a "Tornado Closet" (read steel reinforced concrete box in the center of the house) I keep my go bag,  pry-bar, hatchet and a case of water. Should I have anything else in there?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:26 PM

knbber2: RatOmeter: like cancelling school in the areas that the NWS forecast that the SAME shiat IN THE SAME AREA AS YESTERDAY WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN TODAY!

They never cancel school for forecast tornadoes or t-storms, you'd never get through the school year.

/lived in Nebraska
//did many duck & cover actions in elementary school
///May 6, 1975, one took out about 1/4 of Omaha, went over my school, luckily only 3 dead in the city


This is the last week of school in most OK towns.  All the G. W. Bush instigated testing is finished for this year.  Worth it?
 
2013-05-20 08:34:31 PM
Tinker AFB is stepping up & offering 40 portable lighting units to aid the first responders.
 
2013-05-20 08:34:34 PM

ariseatex: Tom_Slick: ariseatex: Bontesla: CBS News @CBSNews 49s

BREAKING NEWS: Oklahoma Medical Examiner's office tells @CBSNews that at least 37 are killed after tornado hits Moore, OK

This probably includes the Plaza Tower fatalities.

At least I hope it does.

No, they specifically said it did not on the weather channel

*curls up into ball*


Hang in there hon {{ Hugs}}
/I've already broken down crying a few times following this today.
 
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