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2013-05-20 05:24:19 PM  
3 votes:

KhamanV: zomega: I'm just praying for no fatalities at the school. Those poor kids.

God's not at the phone right now, he's busy running his Hoveround over hospitals out there.  I get the sentiment and by all means pray, but personally? God is being a motherfarker today.


I hate religion as much as the next guy, but let them have their coping method in times like this.
2013-05-20 06:55:07 PM  
2 votes:
I live in Manhattan and had my home wrecked by Sandy.  When I heard that Senators and Representatives were voting against aid to my area because it was 'pork' I was furious.

Now when a disaster hits Oklahoma, one of the places in the nation where the politicians didn't want to help New York and New Jersey are located, I feel nothing but compassion and a desire to help these people.  They should get immediate aid and I frankly don't care if I have to pay some extra taxes next year or whenever to make sure they're taken care of.

What is wrong with me?
2013-05-20 06:52:23 PM  
2 votes:

Alpha Sierra Foxtrot: If any dating site was going to attract the wrath of God, I always assumed it would be PoF.


AFF
2013-05-20 06:38:08 PM  
2 votes:

jshine: If you're driving around in a van pointing a camera at a disaster scene and contributing nothing else, then well, that's what it is. If by "professional" you mean "I draw a paycheck for this", then I suppose you're right.  They are paid.  Then again, so are some of the storm-chasers.  ...but whether they get paid or not, they're not really contributing much to the situation at hand.


If you're driving around in a van documenting the disaster and not negatively impacting the cleanup or the rescue, then you are doing exactly what is expected of you in the situation. And if you think for a second that the storm chasers aren't contributing to the event, you are more clueless than you let on. Where in the hell do you think that the dispatchers get their second-to-second information from?

Staggering incompetence on the matter. Unbelievable.
2013-05-20 05:17:59 PM  
2 votes:

LasersHurt: Can't we put up some kind of vertical structures to break up the ground speeds of tornados? I


short answer...no
long answer: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah no
2013-05-20 04:47:47 PM  
2 votes:
Where the hell are those kids going to go home to? The bus going to drop them off at the corner of slab and de-barked tree?
2013-05-20 04:17:36 PM  
2 votes:
People always say to me, "I can't believe you can live in FL because of hurricanes"

I always say, "Fark that, we know hurricanes are coming for 7-10 days a head of time. Tornadoes are the scary shiat"
2013-05-20 07:18:36 PM  
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Contrabulous Flabtraption: Imagine how totally terrifying tornadoes were to early humans.

No kidding. we have technology, and are just as helpless.


I don't know.. Something tells me they might have been a bit smarter about it. Most Americans have no relation to the earth whatsoever. I'm one of them. I love a good storm but I have no idea what differentiates one from the other. I go outside with my Kindle and sit on my porch while watching the clouds roll in without a clue. I would imagine the natives were a bit better keyed into what their environment was doing than we might give them credit for. We wait for the news to tell us whats up, when the natives ruled that territory had a culture built upon the "weather spirits." We have Chad Handipants on News at 6. For the Native American a tornado was worshiped more than feared.
2013-05-20 07:03:11 PM  
1 votes:

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Imagine how totally terrifying tornadoes were to early humans.


a cave is very useful in a tornado
2013-05-20 06:54:27 PM  
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: I say this because I really do not understand why anyone would risk their lives to live in tornado-heavy or hurricane-heavy areas (especially those beneath sea level). I don't think I  can understand the motivation. All I can do is feel bad for the people who suffer, and wonder why they do this to themselves.


You have $5. You're underemployed like the majority of your neighbors. Regardless it's what you know.. You were raised farming and now you're working in a processing plant and your alternator is acting up AGAIN .. hopefully it lasts until the weekend cause .. . You get paid on Friday and it's currently Monday. Why not move your family to an entirely different state?

You are way out of touch.

You're the type of person who asked why so many people were still in New Orleans when Katrina hit. Well guess what - they didn't have to money to spend 5 nights in a hotel. Most of them don't even have cars much less the money to get out of the area. Much less the money to feed their kids when they did get to some place they had no hope whatsoever to afford.

Out of touch.
2013-05-20 06:52:44 PM  
1 votes:
2013-05-20 06:50:08 PM  
1 votes:
"The University of Oklahoma is opening up spaces in Housing for the displaced families Call us 405-325-2511!"
2013-05-20 06:46:47 PM  
1 votes:

jshine: ArtosRC: jshine: Macinfarker: Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.

Pot, meet kettle.

One of them is doing her job. The others are being vultures.

They're all disaster tourists; some just get paid for it & show their footage on TV.


Which is completely useless information?  GTFO
2013-05-20 06:41:14 PM  
1 votes:

impaler: Soonerpsycho: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]
[i.imgur.com image 850x478]


Is that around 1400-1498 S Santa Fe Ave?
35.323888,-97.512074
[growlersoftware.com image 577x484]


i.imgur.com
2013-05-20 06:39:05 PM  
1 votes:

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Sounds like a teacher sacrificed her life to protect 3 kids at the school by laying on top of them as the tornado hit.  Wow.


We'll accept this today.

But tomorrow, we go back to the regular "teachers are lazy, selfish, money-hungry assholes" programming. Just FYI.
2013-05-20 06:28:08 PM  
1 votes:

jshine: They're all disaster tourists; some just get paid for it & show their footage on TV.


Yes, the professional documentation of a catastrophic meteorological event is disaster tourism. Or course it is.
2013-05-20 06:26:24 PM  
1 votes:

ArtosRC: jshine: Macinfarker: Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.

Pot, meet kettle.

One of them is doing her job. The others are being vultures.


They're all disaster tourists; some just get paid for it & show their footage on TV.
2013-05-20 06:24:20 PM  
1 votes:
Cnn keeps mentioning people are emotional. No shiat sherlocks.  You dont have to continuously explain why people are crying and shaking. Worst news network ever
2013-05-20 06:21:04 PM  
1 votes:
Just realized they are saying this one was over 2 miles wide. Joplin 2011 was 1 mile (158 dead in an F5). Tuscaloosa 2011 was 1.5 (64 dead in F4). Moore 1999 was 1 mile (41 dead in F5)
2013-05-20 06:19:03 PM  
1 votes:
Remember that article from a week ago about how it's early May and almost no tornadoes, so obviously there won't be any this year, and therefore Climate Change is bad science?  Yeah, about that.
2013-05-20 06:19:00 PM  
1 votes:
The Downfall: "Tornadoes are not hurricanes."

Excellent work. You've successfully argued the analogy *and* missed the point entirely.
*Basements* and *shelters* already exist and improve outcomes. Despite the magical status of tornadoes as being composed of "wind" and being "not hurricanes".
So we're simply not talking about a binary "can anything be done or not", because things are already done and are effective. We're talking about the scale of "to what extent is more feasible/economical".

Is *stopping* a tornado feasible? Very probably not. Even if it were possible, it would almost certainly be uneconomical.
But that doesn't mean there is no structure that can be built that might further improve outcomes.

You're attempting to use the unlikelihood of a 'perfect'/total solution to disprove the existence of *any* potential improvement.
And that's as silly as saying sea walls would do 'nothing' against a hurricane or, (if you're too hung up on the "wind isn't water" issue) it's like saying we might as well go back to reading animal entrails to find out if Billy is going to beat his fever and survive the winter -- modern medicine can't defeat death itself, so why bother?

/ I'm well aware that tornadoes are *also* not fevers, so you can spare us all that one.
// I've actually ridden out a couple tornadoes in my time. I'm well acquainted with what they are and are not composed of.
2013-05-20 06:18:23 PM  
1 votes:

Marine1: There's no real reason NOT to do it.


We just told you a bunch of reasons why it's not done. You just keep ignoring them.
2013-05-20 06:15:36 PM  
1 votes:

LeadFootSpiderMonkey: wakitu: LeadFoot

wakitu: LeadFootSpiderMonkey: THANK YOU to the TFer who is remaining anonymous, they are about to head out, and will be there in less than 10 minutes, you guys rock!!! Thanks for helping keep my family safe while we are so far away!

/would have re-upped myself, but literally have like 75 cents to my name, thanks for the kindness fark, they are heading to a safe place now due to someone gifting me TF and someone in TFD saw it, and told them to come immediately. siiiiiiiiiiigh of relief.

Hurray Farkers!

For real man! it took like 5 minutes for everything to be worked out from the Boobies i made and for my uncle and his family to load the car and leave. Farkers. YOU. ARE . AWESOME.


The Fark filter is indifferent to suffering.
2013-05-20 06:11:22 PM  
1 votes:
2013-05-20 06:10:57 PM  
1 votes:

LeadFootSpiderMonkey: /would have re-upped myself, but literally have like 75 cents to my name, thanks for the kindness fark, they are heading to a safe place now due to someone gifting me TF and someone in TFD saw it, and told them to come immediately. siiiiiiiiiiigh of relief.


More than happy to help. Glad to hear your (relatively) good news.

Cheers,
fark.com
2013-05-20 06:04:07 PM  
1 votes:
Looks like we're going to see a few f4's today. The moore tornado was an f5 30mile track of flat foundations that prove it. Please donate to the red cross. Yeah I'm playing on your emotions but we are going to need help after today.
2013-05-20 05:53:05 PM  
1 votes:
i706.photobucket.com
2013-05-20 05:50:22 PM  
1 votes:

ArtosRC: LasersHurt: You don't need to stop the whole thing, just disturb the bottom-most part to lower wind speeds.

You. Can't. The funnel is the focus of rotation of a ten-mile high wall of rotation. It is the single point of the fastest winds and rotation of the storm. The power involved cannot be prevented by engineering, but only endured. There is no way- and I cannot stress that enough -to slow it down, to nudge it, or to disrupt it. Few buildings can withstand a strong (EF3, some EF4) tornadoes, and incredibly few can withstand anything stronger; it is a matter of endurance. Tornadoes cannot be impacted by anything other than the ingredients in the atmosphere that create the storm to begin with. If anything, that's where you begin. But since large-scale projects (read: hurricane seeding) haven't yielded meaningful results, it's unlikely that would even help.

You cannot stop a tornado; you can only hope that it misses you. This is not faith in the mystic, but rather a statement of fact.


Any fluid can have its movement disrupted. It's just a matter of how much you have to disturb it, and where you disturb it.  Never say never. "Not right now," well, that's another thing.
2013-05-20 05:49:47 PM  
1 votes:

netizencain: How the fark is a 'hallway' a safe zone in a school in tornado alley?  Who the fark approves that?


Someone who wants the children away from any glass windows?
2013-05-20 05:49:34 PM  
1 votes:
pbs.twimg.com
2013-05-20 05:43:06 PM  
1 votes:

LeadFootSpiderMonkey: I dont have TF right now, so I can't post a TFD thread. We have family in Wagoner, Ok, the storms are headed there, I dont think they have a safe place to hunker down, any TFers in the area have a little extra room?????


gave you TF
2013-05-20 05:40:59 PM  
1 votes:

Outrageous Muff: This tornado is rising fears that other musicals may come to life. To prevent this all the hookers in Sagion have been jailed.


All chess players in Bangkok had better go into hiding...
2013-05-20 05:36:12 PM  
1 votes:

ArtosRC: This is a force of nature. It cannot be stopped.


I agree with your engineering points, but that's mystical hocus pocus BS.
2013-05-20 05:28:25 PM  
1 votes:

zappaisfrank: Before watching the TV coverage of this, I had no idea there was a town in Oklahoma called "Liberal"...

[i5.photobucket.com image 515x455]


It doesn't.  That's Kansas.
2013-05-20 05:22:41 PM  
1 votes:

ontariolightning: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: The worst tornado damage in the history of the world, according to the KFOR reporter?!? 2 to 3 times larger area of devastation than May 3, 1999.

Dear God.

Worse than Bangladesh?


Who knows? What I do know is this: The world outside the US doesn't count.
2013-05-20 05:18:06 PM  
1 votes:
They really aught to consider rebuilding the city completely underground.
2013-05-20 05:16:41 PM  
1 votes:
Ol' Carl needs some training in interviewing disaster victims...
2013-05-20 05:07:00 PM  
1 votes:
And now the part where they talk to shell-shocked victims, providing no useful information.

How about "where can people go for temporary housing" instead of "look at this devastated mother and tell her 'man, it could have been even worse if you weren't in the bathtub'.?"
2013-05-20 05:04:05 PM  
1 votes:

eepapapee: This is the worst American disaster I've seen in my lifetime.


worse than Katrina? No. Sandra? No.
2013-05-20 05:02:19 PM  
1 votes:

Mutable_Beaver: Does anyone know if the schools around there have underground shelters? I hope so!! After 1999 you think they would at least consider it.


Underground shelters are not always possible due to the high water table. I know that's a problem here in N Texas. It's not that people just forgot about that being an option. Every school does tornado drills at least twice a year.
2013-05-20 05:01:42 PM  
1 votes:

cc_rider: I know it's probably too soon, but I have to ask...

They had a few days warning about this. Why didn't the state shut down the schools and stuff and open shelters to all who might need them?

Holy fark...


We don't have the tech to pinpoint certain areas like hurricanes.  We knew there was a big risk for Oklahoma but there's no way right now to know where.  Unless you want to evacuate hundreds if not thousands of square miles, having people concentrated in the danger zone could actually be a bad thing if that's where the tornado decides to hit.
2013-05-20 05:00:09 PM  
1 votes:

teenytinycornteeth: For us laypeople, what is a "hook echo" that they're talking about?


It's a formation in the cloud system that is a very strong indicator of upper rotation in the clouds that could turn into a funnel cloud. It looks like a pirate hook shape. You tend to see them on radar in red and yellow.

Tornadoes are weird because they rarely occur in the rain, if ever. In my experience the rain will die and it gets really quiet, and the sky turns a really sickly greenish color. You can hear it coming for a mile too, like a weird freight train horn or the sound when you blow over the mouth of a soda bottle. I guess that's why they say the calm before the storm.
2013-05-20 04:52:04 PM  
1 votes:

zomega: Di Atribe: Macinfarker: omg the school

Can you imagine being a parent & seeing your child's school like that? Very upsetting.

You could not have kept me away had that been my child's school. Driving in or walking in, I'm going.

My thoughts with all those scared families right now.


Yup. I'm drivin through that tornado, I don't even care.

Although knowing my kid, she'd already have elected herself incident manager & taken control of the situation. I show up, "Back off, Mom, I'm workin here!"

That's my only comfort right now. I just hope all those babies are ok. I can't even imagine.
2013-05-20 04:49:42 PM  
1 votes:
Auntie Em,

Hate you, hate Kansas, took the dog.

D.
2013-05-20 04:48:28 PM  
1 votes:

Di Atribe: Macinfarker: omg the school

Can you imagine being a parent & seeing your child's school like that? Very upsetting.


You could not have kept me away had that been my child's school. Driving in or walking in, I'm going.

My thoughts with all those scared families right now.
2013-05-20 04:47:58 PM  
1 votes:

Di Atribe: Macinfarker: omg the school

Can you imagine being a parent & seeing your child's school like that? Very upsetting.


I'm upset, that's for damn sure, and they're not my kids.
2013-05-20 04:46:57 PM  
1 votes:
I will not hide my face behind stone and mortar. I will stand before the wind and make it respect me
2013-05-20 04:46:26 PM  
1 votes:
crab66:

Tornadoes are one of the few things that scare me on an absolutely primal level.

True dat.  You can't see a hurricane, and you can't see an earthquake, but there's something about seeing the dark tentacle of a tornado reaching down from the clouds that just makes your skin crawl.
2013-05-20 04:43:21 PM  
1 votes:

ArtosRC: This storm isn't done. It'll produce another, and soon.


Tornadoes are easily frightened, but they'll soon be back. And, in greater numbers. We must be cautious.
2013-05-20 04:40:28 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, the helicopter footage is amazing.  I've never seen a tornado 'rope-out' and dissipate live, but it was fascinating to watch.  If it weren't so awful it would be beautiful.
2013-05-20 04:39:08 PM  
1 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: ITT people who were pissing and moaning about the placement of New Orleans, LA will somehow come up with a flimsy and convenient rationalization as to why "flyover country" is an ideal place to live.


How about "when the tornado leaves, the ocean doesn't try to drain into Oklahoma City"?
2013-05-20 04:38:08 PM  
1 votes:
I was in Norman during the 1999 Moore tornado.  And during the OKC bombing.  I thought I could help by leaving.  Sorry, OKC.
2013-05-20 04:37:05 PM  
1 votes:
www.technobunny.org
2013-05-20 04:37:04 PM  
1 votes:

MartinaMcSorley: wxboy: Tornado Emergency for Moore and southern OKC.

Is there something very specific about the Moore area that causes more tornado activity there than other places?  *Is* there, in fact, more activity there than other places?  It seems to happen around Moore so, so often.


Tinker AFB was once hit by tornadoes twice in one week.

I believe that was some sort of record for most frequent repeat tornadic touchdowns. Today may be breaking that record. Geez.

And to answer your question, there are lots of places in OK that are hit repeatedly. There are infamous tornadoes from Edmond, Moore, Tuttle, and OKC proper. There's a reason that the meteorology department at OU is world-renowned.
2013-05-20 04:34:11 PM  
1 votes:

jfarkinB: Not this again. :(


I wish Jesus would stop half-assing these raptures.
2013-05-20 04:32:14 PM  
1 votes:

Random Name Generator: This is Joplin-bad.


Or Moore 1999 bad.
2013-05-20 04:31:57 PM  
1 votes:

Mrs.Sharpier: Can someone out there put this into perspective for me? I'm a dumb person when it comes to weather. Like size wise, how big are the tornados?

I lived in Norman when I was a kid for exactly 6 weeks. I remember epic floods and frogs falling from the sky, I shiat you not, it was like a scene from Magnolia. OK has crazy stupid weather.


It's large. Its destructive power remains to be assessed. But generally, huge tornadoes are also very destructive when they hit a populated area, which this one is. It's going through an area full of houses, businesses, you name it. It's not too far west of Tinker AFB.
2013-05-20 04:31:14 PM  
1 votes:
That city doth resembleth a court jester with its tornadoes on the ground.

/in all seriousness, if you're gonna have tornadoes... the middle of the day is the best time for it.
2013-05-20 04:22:47 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: What happens if NIckleback gets sucked up in a tornado?  Does that form a supersuck or do they cancel each other out?  I propose we find out.


It's worth a try.
2013-05-20 04:21:16 PM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-05-20 04:19:53 PM  
1 votes:
 imageshack.us
That looks dangerous too
2013-05-20 04:19:44 PM  
1 votes:

Almost Everybody Poops: "EF4 possible EF5"


Not to pick nits or take away from the severity of the situation but they don't assign an EF number until they can look at the damage path. The visual size or appearance of a tornado doesn't factor in. It's the mess it makes that counts.

In any case, got my fingers crossed for everybody up there. Keep your heads down.
2013-05-20 04:16:57 PM  
1 votes:
Ive been forecasting for this area for the better part of 7 years now and never seen rotation like this = /

farm8.staticflickr.com
2013-05-20 04:16:22 PM  
1 votes:

one_drummer: Stay safe Okies... well, everyone EXCEPT Clay Bennett...  he can diaf.


DIAT
2013-05-20 04:13:18 PM  
1 votes:
If any dating site was going to attract the wrath of God, I always assumed it would be PoF.
2013-05-20 04:12:54 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: What happens if NIckleback gets sucked up in a tornado?  Does that form a supersuck or do they cancel each other out?  I propose we find out.


The tornado would just spit them back out. They are more into classic rock.

/Especially The Doors.
2013-05-20 04:09:54 PM  
1 votes:
Are you sure it's not just the Tasmanian Devil?
2013-05-20 04:09:15 PM  
1 votes:
Wow, classic hook echo. Text book. Doppler not needed.
2013-05-20 04:09:14 PM  
1 votes:
I hope you guys stay safe.
2013-05-20 04:05:29 PM  
1 votes:
Not this again. :(
 
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