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2013-05-20 06:18:29 PM  

LeadFootSpiderMonkey: THANK YOU to the TFer who is remaining anonymous, they are about to head out, and will be there in less than 10 minutes, you guys rock!!! Thanks for helping keep my family safe while we are so far away!

/would have re-upped myself, but literally have like 75 cents to my name, thanks for the kindness fark, they are heading to a safe place now due to someone gifting me TF and someone in TFD saw it, and told them to come immediately. siiiiiiiiiiigh of relief.


ANOTHER WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2013-05-20 06:18:51 PM  

Soonerpsycho: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]


Hole. E. Shiat.
 
2013-05-20 06:18:54 PM  

Moderator: LeadFoot


y'all are too cool for school. Big big relief. :)
 
2013-05-20 06:19:00 PM  
The Downfall: "Tornadoes are not hurricanes."

Excellent work. You've successfully argued the analogy *and* missed the point entirely.
*Basements* and *shelters* already exist and improve outcomes. Despite the magical status of tornadoes as being composed of "wind" and being "not hurricanes".
So we're simply not talking about a binary "can anything be done or not", because things are already done and are effective. We're talking about the scale of "to what extent is more feasible/economical".

Is *stopping* a tornado feasible? Very probably not. Even if it were possible, it would almost certainly be uneconomical.
But that doesn't mean there is no structure that can be built that might further improve outcomes.

You're attempting to use the unlikelihood of a 'perfect'/total solution to disprove the existence of *any* potential improvement.
And that's as silly as saying sea walls would do 'nothing' against a hurricane or, (if you're too hung up on the "wind isn't water" issue) it's like saying we might as well go back to reading animal entrails to find out if Billy is going to beat his fever and survive the winter -- modern medicine can't defeat death itself, so why bother?

/ I'm well aware that tornadoes are *also* not fevers, so you can spare us all that one.
// I've actually ridden out a couple tornadoes in my time. I'm well acquainted with what they are and are not composed of.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:03 PM  
Remember that article from a week ago about how it's early May and almost no tornadoes, so obviously there won't be any this year, and therefore Climate Change is bad science?  Yeah, about that.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:05 PM  

netweavr: SmackLT: AP says winds in excess of 200 mph. Holy shiat

F5 is 261-318 mph....


Wrong scale. F5 was discontinued about a decade ago.

EF5 is now in excess of 200MPH.

EF does a lot better job equating damage to wind speed than the F scale.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:08 PM  
Christ. I just said goodbye to my mother as she went out to work in OKC. She's in one of the hospitals (not Moore's) and in the basement shelter. I'm freaking the fark out. She's fine but I don't want the place to cave in suddenly.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:10 PM  
shiat like this is why I get very nervous when the skies turn black....
 
2013-05-20 06:19:19 PM  

Macinfarker: Victim:  "I did call News Channel 4, and...."

Carl:  "Well you're talking to News Channel 9 now."


Sigh.


That lady was funny.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:19 PM  

Warthog: On this feed  http://kfor.com/on-air/live-streaming/  they're showing the Moore / Norman hospital.  Looks like it acted like a giant funnel catching cars -- they're all piled up into a mountain five or six deep against the main entrance.  Looks like the tsunami from Japan more than any tornado damage I've ever seen.


That was strange looking. Appeared that the hospital managed to maintain its structure though.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:42 PM  
Dispatcher: "Her son has her gun pointed at her..."

Seriously - can't you save your drama for another day?
 
GBB
2013-05-20 06:20:10 PM  
JFC, did I just hear a guy with a gun pointed at someone on the scanner??   WTF are you guys doing over there?
 
2013-05-20 06:20:16 PM  
Oh, God. This IS bad.
 
2013-05-20 06:20:31 PM  
Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.
 
2013-05-20 06:20:47 PM  

Moderator: LeadFootSpiderMonkey: /would have re-upped myself, but literally have like 75 cents to my name, thanks for the kindness fark, they are heading to a safe place now due to someone gifting me TF and someone in TFD saw it, and told them to come immediately. siiiiiiiiiiigh of relief.

More than happy to help. Glad to hear your (relatively) good news.

Cheers,
fark.com


Just when you think mods only suck you gotta go and do something noice  ;-)
 
2013-05-20 06:20:50 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Almost Everybody Poops: Dumb-ass reporter talking to a guy who lost is home:

"Where do you live? Where is your home?"

Guy points to wreckage.

Apparently when you go into broadcast journalism, they don't make you take a class on how to speak someone who has just been affected by a natural disaster.


Oh yes they do.  But they specifically tell you to go for "The Moment", where you get the emotional impact of the situation.  You know, like when you tell a 65 year old woman her twin sister died in a fire and she starts screaming..

That was when I walked out of Newscasting 101. And told the anchor exactly what I thought of his reporting in short precise words.

/been through enough of tornadoes, but nothing even close to this one
 
2013-05-20 06:21:04 PM  
Just realized they are saying this one was over 2 miles wide. Joplin 2011 was 1 mile (158 dead in an F5). Tuscaloosa 2011 was 1.5 (64 dead in F4). Moore 1999 was 1 mile (41 dead in F5)
 
2013-05-20 06:21:21 PM  
I had a nightmare about Moore last night. Then I woke up and it was real.

I just... I don't have anything more to add I guess.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:19 PM  
This is the 3rd tornado is this same are in the past 15 years.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:24 PM  

stir22: Adolf Oliver Nipples: The worst part about all of this? If the climate guys are right, this is just the beginning, it's only going to get worse from here.

yeah....looks like it.


Confirmation bias for the science fail. Tornadoes are weather, not climate.

Secondly, these things will become LESS common is the climate guys are right. Temperature differential varies with absolute temperature.

But thanks for Jonathan Edwardsing/Chicken Littling it for us.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:26 PM  

Macinfarker: Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.


Hell yea she did, and rightfully so.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:38 PM  

Shadow Blasko: I had a nightmare about Moore last night. Then I woke up and it was real.

I just... I don't have anything more to add I guess.


Sorry :(
 
2013-05-20 06:22:38 PM  

Mike_LowELL: netweavr: F5 is 261-318 mph....

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/ef-scale.html

They changed this up a while ago.  200+ would now constitute "EF5".


so did wwe

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2013-05-20 06:22:38 PM  
That is freaky. They zoomed in on the school and there was an exposed interior wall with all the backpacks still neatly hanging on the hooks.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:45 PM  
The helicopter was just doing a live shot of the rescue operations at the school.  I'm not an expert in these things, but it looked an awful lot more like recovery than rescue.  The guy on the TV is now losing it over his discussion with the rescue guys.  This is going to be really, really, really bad.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:48 PM  

Marine1: BREAKING NEWS:

Flooding in St. Louis as Katie Horner achieves orgasm from news that these storms could possibly be on their way to her station's viewing area.


That was a disappointing Google search.  She looks like she would eat your balls for breakfast.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:53 PM  
Scott Joplin?  did they name him after Joplin, MO?
 
2013-05-20 06:23:05 PM  
Oh good lord, reporter just was told there are victims at the second elementary school.
 
2013-05-20 06:23:28 PM  

The Downfall: Just realized they are saying this one was over 2 miles wide. Joplin 2011 was 1 mile (158 dead in an F5). Tuscaloosa 2011 was 1.5 (64 dead in F4). Moore 1999 was 1 mile (41 dead in F5)


Difference is that this one occurred in the middle of the day, in an area very familiar with tornadoes, and probably with a good lead time. Lots of factors go into death toll, including what was hit.
 
2013-05-20 06:23:44 PM  

The Downfall: Just realized they are saying this one was over 2 miles wide. Joplin 2011 was 1 mile (158 dead in an F5). Tuscaloosa 2011 was 1.5 (64 dead in F4). Moore 1999 was 1 mile (41 dead in F5)


Live feed out of OKC is saying 2.5 miles wide.


:(
 
2013-05-20 06:23:56 PM  
I just heard a hospital was leveled but evacuated. I don't know if that was the one my mother's in.

Fark. Texting her and she hasn't replied yet. I want to say she's either hustling or still hanging out in the shelter and didn't know I texted.
 
2013-05-20 06:24:06 PM  

Macinfarker: Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.


Pot, meet kettle.
 
2013-05-20 06:24:20 PM  
Cnn keeps mentioning people are emotional. No shiat sherlocks.  You dont have to continuously explain why people are crying and shaking. Worst news network ever
 
2013-05-20 06:24:30 PM  

Marine1: God-is-a-Taco: Marine1:
They're possible, you just have to be willing to build one. We carved a damn fortress into Cheyenne Mountain, for fark's sake.

They should be built into the price of a home. This thing where people get killed and they find the corpse 1/2 a mile away from the home because they didn't have anywhere to go is getting really old. Especially when it's a kid.

Why would a business offer a service like that at a price people here could afford, much less for free? They're there to make money, not care about people.

It's not that much more, really. Especially when you consider the cost of housing in the Midwest and Great Plains.

Let's say you don't put a basement in EVERY home. If these towns can dig trenches for sewers, storm drains, and water mains, they can dig a 20'x20' (hell, smaller than that) every block or two as a tornado shelter.

It's a practice that we know would save lives. There's no real reason NOT to do it.


If anything, it's the other way around.  (Gonna use Detroit and the Bay Area, because I know their housing prices)

Detroit - nice family home with good schools, and Detroit Public Water - $130K.
Cost of good, storm-resistant (so that when the house gets ripped away, you're not in a hole, you're still in a room) basement - $50K (pulling this out of my ass, but the point remains)
Detroit + basement - $180K

Mountain View - starter home - $800K.  Actual selling price - $1.3 million cash (Because the Bay Area is currently completely freaking insane).
Cost of basement - $100K (Let's say it doubled because of CA environmentalists and just generally higher costs because of ridiculous real estate)
Mountain View plus basement - $1.4 million

Except that salaries are based around cost of living.  If you can afford $1.3 Million, you can probably afford $1.4 Million (especially since you paid the 1.3 Million in cash.  Yes you did.  If you're buying a house in Silicon Valley today, you're paying cash.  End of Story).  That's not necessarily the case with $130K->$180K.
 
2013-05-20 06:24:57 PM  

Di Atribe: Marine1: There's no real reason NOT to do it.

We just told you a bunch of reasons why it's not done. You just keep ignoring them.


Denying people live-saving shelter in an area prone to violent storms is not a good practice, and there's no reason for it, period. If they can't put some form of shelter in, they need to build somewhere else. A strong room might not have been enough for this stuff, even... sheesh, man, these pics are unreal...
 
2013-05-20 06:25:08 PM  

WizardofToast: I just heard a hospital was leveled but evacuated. I don't know if that was the one my mother's in.

Fark. Texting her and she hasn't replied yet. I want to say she's either hustling or still hanging out in the shelter and didn't know I texted.


Keeping good thoughts for yours.
 
2013-05-20 06:25:15 PM  

jshine: Macinfarker: Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.

Pot, meet kettle.


One of them is doing her job. The others are being vultures.
 
2013-05-20 06:25:18 PM  

WizardofToast: I just heard a hospital was leveled but evacuated. I don't know if that was the one my mother's in.

Fark. Texting her and she hasn't replied yet. I want to say she's either hustling or still hanging out in the shelter and didn't know I texted.


http://tunein.com/radio/Oklahoma-City-Police-s147235/

They're giving locations of areas that they're working on clearing... I hope this helps...
 
2013-05-20 06:25:32 PM  

meyerkev: Detroit - nice family home with good schools, and Detroit Public Water - $130K.


The fark?
 
2013-05-20 06:25:55 PM  

WizardofToast: I just heard a hospital was leveled but evacuated. I don't know if that was the one my mother's in.

Fark. Texting her and she hasn't replied yet. I want to say she's either hustling or still hanging out in the shelter and didn't know I texted.


I hope your mother is safe.
 
2013-05-20 06:26:01 PM  

WizardofToast: I just heard a hospital was leveled but evacuated. I don't know if that was the one my mother's in.

Fark. Texting her and she hasn't replied yet. I want to say she's either hustling or still hanging out in the shelter and didn't know I texted.


Nobody would be getting texts there..
 
2013-05-20 06:26:11 PM  

WizardofToast: I just heard a hospital was leveled but evacuated. I don't know if that was the one my mother's in.

Fark. Texting her and she hasn't replied yet. I want to say she's either hustling or still hanging out in the shelter and didn't know I texted.


Stay calm, okay? All the area hospitals are gonna be flooded right now. I'm sure she's fine, just busy.
 
2013-05-20 06:26:18 PM  

ringersol: The Downfall: "Tornadoes are not hurricanes."

Excellent work. You've blah blah successfully blah  composed of

.Blah blah sis boom bah and in closing wharrgarble


Everybody on FARK is paying attention to you now princess. What s it that you really want to say?
 
2013-05-20 06:26:21 PM  

megalynn44: That is freaky. They zoomed in on the school and there was an exposed interior wall with all the backpacks still neatly hanging on the hooks.


It's weird how that happens. I've seen pictures of buildings with most of the walls gone and yet there would still be cups and things sitting neatly on the dinner table.

It sounds very bad about the third grade class, from the looks of it just doesn't appear very hopeful for them. I wonder why they weren't evacuated with the other classes?
 
2013-05-20 06:26:24 PM  

ArtosRC: jshine: Macinfarker: Female reporter onsite just scolded disaster tourists for causing problems.  good on her.

Pot, meet kettle.

One of them is doing her job. The others are being vultures.


They're all disaster tourists; some just get paid for it & show their footage on TV.
 
2013-05-20 06:26:30 PM  
CNN reporting that it might have been an F7 tornado.

/listening to these people fills me with rage and wonder.
 
2013-05-20 06:26:35 PM  
And just as I post, I get a text. She's fine. Wasn't hers.

I didn't know the tornado was a farking mile long. I've done cross country in high school to be familiar with the scope of a mile. I can only see a goddamn wall of gastly death like out of a horror movie.

She says more are coming. Hopefully minor ones.
 
2013-05-20 06:26:36 PM  
 
2013-05-20 06:27:02 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: The worst part about all of this? If the climate guys are right, this is just the beginning, it's only going to get worse from here.


Why? All global warming will do is push the alley northward. You still need a cold front slamming into warm gulf air. Even if the air generally warms, you still need that intersection with a cold air mass.

Otherwise Houston should have constant tornadoes, being warmer than OKC and all.
 
2013-05-20 06:27:23 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: CNN reporting that it might have been an F7 tornado.

/listening to these people fills me with rage and wonder.


God. They should be fined.
 
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