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(Opposing Views)   Attention all straight people with children, anything with the word "gay" in it is "inappropriate for kids," says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts   (opposingviews.com) divider line 202
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2013-05-20 02:38:27 PM
reality?
 
2013-05-20 02:40:49 PM
They want to promote political, social agendas and that's just utterly inappropriate when kida are involved.

It's at this point that his head should have exploded from the cognitive dissonance.
 
2013-05-20 02:47:21 PM
i500.listal.com

NOT amused.
 
2013-05-20 02:48:05 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

BANNED!
 
2013-05-20 02:53:04 PM
 i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-20 03:01:08 PM
"Gay" is a killing word.
 
2013-05-20 03:01:15 PM
You cannot celebrate your engagement around children.
 
2013-05-20 03:11:44 PM

Aarontology: You cannot celebrate your engagement around children.


Or celebrate the new year. Or watch the Flintstones.
 
2013-05-20 03:59:36 PM
I have to wonder if this guy actually has ever seen any of the things that he's dismissing as inappropriate for, let's be honest, sexual content.  If it is a relationship blog, then yeah it is going to be inappropriate for chillun', gay or straight.  If it is just a blog where gay parents talk about gay parent challenges, then no it isn't.

And there won't be any real reason to talk about sex among Scouts than there is now, i.e. preventing and reporting of molestation.  Jeez, dude, before launching a nationwide campaign against something, do a little research.  The only thing that really "tells" on most gay adults is what their partner looks like.
 
2013-05-20 04:03:45 PM
That's so ghey.
 
2013-05-20 04:04:04 PM
Banned:
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2013-05-20 04:04:17 PM
They are also banning Irish eyes from smiling.
 
2013-05-20 04:04:46 PM
Even the Flintstone's theme song?
 
2013-05-20 04:05:11 PM
Well isn't that just fabulous.
 
2013-05-20 04:06:39 PM

factoryconnection: I have to wonder if this guy actually has ever seen any of the things that he's dismissing as inappropriate for, let's be honest, sexual content.  If it is a relationship blog, then yeah it is going to be inappropriate for chillun', gay or straight.  If it is just a blog where gay parents talk about gay parent challenges, then no it isn't.

And there won't be any real reason to talk about sex among Scouts than there is now, i.e. preventing and reporting of molestation.  Jeez, dude, before launching a nationwide campaign against something, do a little research.  The only thing that really "tells" on most gay adults is what their partner looks like.


To guys like this, a framed picture of your same sex partner on your desk is flaunting your homosexuality. Basically even acknowledging that you're gay is TMI.
 
2013-05-20 04:06:53 PM
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/I'm not giving out hints
 
2013-05-20 04:07:11 PM
Wants gay out of the boy scouts?

these poor kids already fight un uphill battle with those stupid uniforms. now this douche wants to make sure that being happy is literally banned from scouting.

this guy sounds like he may benefit from a d*ck in his arse.
 
2013-05-20 04:07:30 PM
Something tells me this guy is stuck in a closet..
 
2013-05-20 04:07:33 PM
Lucky for those left-handed scouts who joined after they stopped chopping off left-hands of sinister people. It took proving that lefties don't cause lefties. Most know they're born that way, Dexter.
 
2013-05-20 04:07:58 PM
I've heard this logic before, namely when my bio dad tried to prevent me from telling my little sister I'm bi, or when she asked what I learned in Anthro class and I said 'third gender'. Because just hearing the words will spread the contagion that is bisexuality\transsexuality, and we must protect our children from this.

Farkin' idjits.
 
2013-05-20 04:08:40 PM
Close state park to me, scouts camp there sometimes
 
2013-05-20 04:09:18 PM
What about Zorro the Gay Blade?
 
2013-05-20 04:10:45 PM
Stemberger...

Tell your children that there is no "gay"
Tell your children not to use those words
What they mean
What they say
Stemberger...
 
2013-05-20 04:11:55 PM
So when they "Deck the Halls" they cannot "don their gay apparel" at Christmas anymore?  Bummer.
 
2013-05-20 04:12:10 PM
I was here to make a Rudy Gay joke, but that seems to be covered, so...
 
2013-05-20 04:12:33 PM
I remember my parents explaining to me what gay meant when I was in kindergarten because every word out of my mouth (and all the rest of the kids) was gay-bob and queer-bait.

It didn't make me gay, but I do like the Go-Go's so I can't rule anything out.
 
2013-05-20 04:12:41 PM
There is no way I would entrust my kids with a guy that obnoxiously closeted.
 
2013-05-20 04:13:30 PM
What about anything that has the word 'gay' in it?

  "James 2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:"
 
2013-05-20 04:14:02 PM
says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Let's see, what else do All Republicans (of whom Stemberger is the statistical average) hate?

- compassion
- wisdom
- humility
- humanity
- life
- the future

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOP!
 
2013-05-20 04:14:21 PM
"Anti-gay activist" has the word gay in it, so by his own rules he should have nothing to do with children and the Boy Scouts in particular, right?
 
2013-05-20 04:15:12 PM
so is he for or against gaydar?
 
2013-05-20 04:16:22 PM
I don't know what. Canteen Boy?
 
2013-05-20 04:17:37 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

The Flintstones frown on your shenanigans.
 
2013-05-20 04:18:09 PM

cubic_spleen: says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Let's see, what else do All Republicans (of whom Stemberger is the statistical average) hate?

- compassion
- wisdom
- humility
- humanity
- life
- the future


You left out women, colored folk and any protestant religion that splashes. But with such a large list, it's easy to forget a few.
 
2013-05-20 04:19:01 PM
I love being single. I haven't had this much sex since I was a Boy Scout leader. Er, I mean, at the time, I was dating a lot.
 
2013-05-20 04:19:06 PM
LOL.  I am well aware of this creep's work locally.

But maybe we should give his opinions serious consideration.   PolitiFact gives him 50/50.

/split between False and Mostly False
 
2013-05-20 04:19:06 PM

calbert: so is he for or against gaydar?


Gaydar is out, but you can keep your Rosie O'Dometer.
 
2013-05-20 04:19:15 PM
As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.
 
2013-05-20 04:20:22 PM
Gatorade? That's in the ballpark.
 
2013-05-20 04:20:29 PM
He's keeping Voldemort out of the BSA?

Makes sense, the guys a limey Brit anyways.
 
2013-05-20 04:20:46 PM
As I told the neighbor's kid. "Yeah, I said fark. It's just a word. People are afraid of words because they don't have the minds to get over them.
Don't you say it or some poor grownup's head will assplode.
Yeah, I said Assplode, It's just a word.
People are afraid of words because they don't have the minds to get over them.
Don't you say it or some poor grownup's will shait bricks.
Yeah, I said shiat, It's just a word. People are afraid of words because they don't have the minds to get over them".

At which point he realizes he's being lectured and says, "OKOK, ENough!! I GET IT!"
 
2013-05-20 04:20:50 PM
Everyone knows you can catch the gay, why else do you think Homeland Security told us all those years ago to invest in plastic sheeting and duct tape. Sometimes I have to seal up the livingtoom before it creeps in under the door and ruins my family.
 
2013-05-20 04:21:11 PM
CSB
I recently asked my 10 year old son if he had heard that gay marriage was now legal (we live in Minnesota).
son: "I thought gay marriage was always allowed."
me: "No, they just passed it yesterday. Gay marriage was illegal here before that."
son: "No, they've always had gay marriage. You were always able to have a happy marriage."
me: "Ha, ha, ha. No son, I'm afraid that's just a myth."
 
2013-05-20 04:21:30 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wants gay out of the boy scouts?

these poor kids already fight un uphill battle with those stupid uniforms. now this douche wants to make sure that being happy is literally banned from scouting.

this guy sounds like he may benefit from a d*ck in his arse.


But those gay kids might like being raped by the peso Scout leaders.
 
2013-05-20 04:21:30 PM

calbert


so is he for or against gaydar?


He would probably think it's a slur against the Daughters of the American Revolution.
 
2013-05-20 04:22:32 PM

Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.


THIS
 
2013-05-20 04:22:34 PM
News flash from September: John Stemberger caught soliciting sex in a Denny's bathroom.
 
2013-05-20 04:22:50 PM
Guys like this end up being gay themselves.  So self loathing they are, they try to suppress even the very mention of it.

I bet you this guy lusts for men and just can't stand it.
 
2013-05-20 04:22:56 PM

blatz514: BANNED:

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/I'm not giving out hints


Oh noooo it's Rudy Gay!

(Seriously, if you haven't watched this, you need to.)
 
2013-05-20 04:23:03 PM
A few weekends ago, at an LDS father-son camp, we sang (among many other songs) "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree":

Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree
Merry, merry king of the bush is he
Laugh, Kookaburra! Laugh, Kookaburra!
Gay your life must be

Not one person mentioned, or had an issue with, the last line of that verse. Everyone understood the context. There wasn't any reason to censor the song. It never occurred to me that it might be an issue for someone. The kids ranged from 2 to 16 or so.

The only reason we sang it was because one of the dads was Australian. Obviously the kids were smart enough to understand the context, with the word meaning happy.
 
2013-05-20 04:23:31 PM

NallTWD: News flash from September: John Stemberger caught soliciting sex in a Denny's bathroom.


Please.  All the gays I know have more class than that.
 
2013-05-20 04:23:56 PM
So no 1890's?
 
2013-05-20 04:24:00 PM

BMFPitt: There is no way I would entrust my kids with a guy that obnoxiously closeted.


It's amazing to me when people say something this stupidly homophobic and thinking that it's somehow a pro-gay rights statement.
 
2013-05-20 04:24:12 PM

Katolu: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wants gay out of the boy scouts?

these poor kids already fight un uphill battle with those stupid uniforms. now this douche wants to make sure that being happy is literally banned from scouting.

this guy sounds like he may benefit from a d*ck in his arse.

But those gay kids might like being raped by the peso Scout leaders.


Ohhhh, pedo...Autocorrect got me.
 
2013-05-20 04:24:25 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Even the Flintstone's theme song?


Yabba dabba goo!
 
2013-05-20 04:25:13 PM
"You look at anything that has the word 'gay' on it in our culture," Stemberger explained, "A gay magazine, a gay blog, a gay website, a gay parade, you name it, it's gonna be guaranteed to be inappropriate for kids."


---
What about the gay kids though?

Pretty much every movie I watched until I was 15 or so was basically a heterosexual love story.

And yet somehow I didn't turn out hetero-sexual. Self-loathing and partially suicidal maybe but it didn't change my sexuality at all.

God, it's almost like their entire argument is bullshiat.
 
2013-05-20 04:25:52 PM
What about queer? Is queer still ok to use?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Queer_Is_Going_On">http://en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Queer_Is_Going_On

Guess not.
 
2013-05-20 04:25:54 PM

ISO15693: A few weekends ago, at an LDS father-son camp, we sang (among many other songs) "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree":

Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree
Merry, merry king of the bush is he
Laugh, Kookaburra! Laugh, Kookaburra!
Gay your life must be

Not one person mentioned, or had an issue with, the last line of that verse. Everyone understood the context. There wasn't any reason to censor the song. It never occurred to me that it might be an issue for someone. The kids ranged from 2 to 16 or so.

The only reason we sang it was because one of the dads was Australian. Obviously the kids were smart enough to understand the context, with the word meaning happy.


As opposed to the other version, which talks about the Queen of the bush.
 
2013-05-20 04:28:33 PM
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2013-05-20 04:30:04 PM

Diogenes: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

THIS


That.  I'm very happy I was in a troop that really didn't care one way or another.  Perhaps it helped that our troop was not sponsored by a church, or any other organization for that matter so we had nobody to answer to.
 
2013-05-20 04:30:23 PM
I've been described as a pervert and deviant.   I'm straight, married for over a year, been with only one woman for the past 5 years.  Anyone can be a filthy perv, "the gheys" don't have that market cornered.  (But I'm also one of those crazy equal rights guys, so maybe I'm just part of the deviant crowd).
 
2013-05-20 04:30:43 PM
After all, forcing sexual repression, while leaving the repressed in a position of power over youths, has worked so well for the Catholic church.
 
2013-05-20 04:31:17 PM
We're talking about injecting hyper-sexuality and a leftist political agenda right into the veins of the Boy Scouts and it will utterly devastate it

Really this is all they are concerned about, properly brainwashing the children.
 
2013-05-20 04:33:06 PM
If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?
 
2013-05-20 04:34:01 PM

PsiChick: Farkin' idjits.


That was probably a typo. You meant to write "demonstrably immoral psychopaths".
 
2013-05-20 04:34:30 PM
Couldn't find teh sequined merit badges

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2013-05-20 04:35:11 PM

Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?


In order to foster feelings of hahmahsexual lust!
 
2013-05-20 04:35:31 PM
What about straight people with gay kids? Is it allowed then?
 
2013-05-20 04:37:17 PM

ryant123: PsiChick: Farkin' idjits.

That was probably a typo. You meant to write "demonstrably immoral psychopaths".


No, this guy is just that damn stupid. The others are probably psychos, but this one just gets his talking points from Fox News and has yet to engage whatever remains of his shriveled-up brain.
 
2013-05-20 04:37:51 PM

Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?


You think I want nasty boy undies touching my girl clothes? Ew..
 
2013-05-20 04:39:35 PM

Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?


I know, right!??!! It's not like males and females have totally different anatomies or something! Sheesh!

/I said a herp derp, herpidy derp, a derp derp derp derp derpity derp
 
2013-05-20 04:40:03 PM

flux: Stemberger...

Tell your children that there is no "gay"
Tell your children not to use those words
What they mean
What they say
Stemberger...


OK, I chuckled.
/STEMBERGERRRRRR
//Can you keep them straight for life
//Can you hide them from the fabulous world
//STEMBERGERRRRRR
 
2013-05-20 04:40:25 PM
Can we still call them sodomites around the kids?
 
2013-05-20 04:41:41 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?

I know, right!??!! It's not like males and females have totally different anatomies or something! Sheesh!


Not such different anatomies that they need separate locker facilities. Men and women both put their pants on one leg at a time.

/bigger question is why we force people to change, shower, and sometimes urinate in public
 
2013-05-20 04:41:59 PM
How is he different from the rest of the BSA? Does the BSA allow homosexuals and atheists in now?
 
2013-05-20 04:42:04 PM
Gayal- n. - Ox of southeast Asia sometimes considered a domesticated breed of the gaur

margay- n. - Small spotted wildcat found from Texas to Brazil

nosegay- n. - An arrangement of flowers that is usually given as a present
 
2013-05-20 04:42:18 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-20 04:43:11 PM
"older boys should not be allowed to talk about sex with younger boys"

sounds like sound policy

/depends on how you take that
 
2013-05-20 04:44:47 PM
"They want to inject and flaunt their sexuality."  "We're talking about injecting hyper-sexuality and a leftist political agenda right into the veins of the Boy Scouts."

Sounds like he's got something on his mind.
 
2013-05-20 04:45:10 PM

Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.


A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.
 
2013-05-20 04:45:41 PM

xria: "Anti-gay activist" has the word gay in it, so by his own rules he should have nothing to do with children and the Boy Scouts in particular, right?


My thoughts exactly, and in that particular case I totally agree him.  I don't want anti-gay activists anywhere near my kid.
 
2013-05-20 04:47:53 PM

NallTWD: News flash from September: John Stemberger caught soliciting sex in a Denny's bathroom.


from a underage boy? Could be, happens X is against Y, X caught doing Y repeat.
 
2013-05-20 04:49:14 PM
What if he's holding a flag?

www.usatf.org
 
2013-05-20 04:49:22 PM
static.businessinsider.com
 
2013-05-20 04:49:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/john.stemberger.3?fref=ts">https://www.facebo ok.com/john.stemberger.3?fref=ts 

If you want to tell him what you think.
 
2013-05-20 04:49:43 PM

BitwiseShift: Lucky for those left-handed scouts who joined after they stopped chopping off left-hands of sinister people. It took proving that lefties don't cause lefties. Most know they're born that way, Dexter.


I'm left-handed and gay, so I'm getting a kick.
 
2013-05-20 04:50:19 PM

JasonOfOrillia: What about Zorro the Gay Blade?


That's Bunny Wigglesworth to you.
 
2013-05-20 04:50:43 PM

blatz514: That's so ghey.


Came here for that comment.  Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-05-20 04:50:56 PM
katnip.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-20 04:51:27 PM

namegoeshere: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.


did your autocorrect turn "vacation" into "sexuality" at the end there, or are you just an asshole?
 
2013-05-20 04:51:48 PM
Mr. Stemberger is correct. I am promoting a radical agenda; one I lifted from the Declaration of Independence... "all men are created equal".
 
2013-05-20 04:51:59 PM
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2013-05-20 04:52:47 PM
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2013-05-20 04:53:57 PM

exick: They want to promote political, social agendas and that's just utterly inappropriate when kida are involved.

It's at this point that his head should have exploded from the cognitive dissonance.


No kidding. My takeaway from being in Scouts was that it was political and social in nature.
 
2013-05-20 04:55:00 PM

stampylives: namegoeshere: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.

did your autocorrect turn "vacation" into "sexuality" at the end there, or are you just an asshole?


What the hell are you babbling about?? The op said that scout leaders should not discuss their sexuality with the scouts. I said, such a small thing as mentioning a same-sex spouse could be interpreted as discussing sexuality, although a straight scout leader mentioning his wife would not be seen as discussing his sexuality.
 
2013-05-20 04:55:24 PM
www.genderads.com
 
2013-05-20 04:57:09 PM

FirstDennis: Can we still call them sodomites around the kids?


I always wondered why Sodom got a cool sexual term named after it, but Gomorrah didn't? At least, I never hear anyone call someone a gomorrite or talk about gomorrizing someone, anyway...
 
2013-05-20 04:58:41 PM

USA Prime Credit Peggy: blatz514: BANNED:

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/I'm not giving out hints

Oh noooo it's Rudy Gay!

(Seriously, if you haven't watched this, you need to.)


Thanks for that!  Hilarious!
 
2013-05-20 04:59:00 PM
This is perfectly acceptable, because "gay" isn't in it:

pmlol.com
 
2013-05-20 05:02:36 PM

PsiChick: ryant123: PsiChick: Farkin' idjits.

That was probably a typo. You meant to write "demonstrably immoral psychopaths".

No, this guy is just that damn stupid. The others are probably psychos, but this one just gets his talking points from Fox News and has yet to engage whatever remains of his shriveled-up brain.


So, generic Republican.
 
2013-05-20 05:03:17 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-20 05:03:45 PM

Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?


Your question is interesting, and deserves some consideration, however it must be weighted against the fact that it was asked by someone who is known to be clinically insane.
 
2013-05-20 05:07:29 PM
www.lighthouseratings.com

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2013-05-20 05:07:35 PM

cubic_spleen: PsiChick: ryant123: PsiChick: Farkin' idjits.

That was probably a typo. You meant to write "demonstrably immoral psychopaths".

No, this guy is just that damn stupid. The others are probably psychos, but this one just gets his talking points from Fox News and has yet to engage whatever remains of his shriveled-up brain.

So, generic Republican.


...Possibly.
 
2013-05-20 05:08:20 PM

BitwiseShift: Lucky for those left-handed scouts who joined after they stopped chopping off left-hands of sinister people. It took proving that lefties don't cause lefties. Most know they're born that way, Dexter.


Dunno.  I'm left handed and my kid is left handed.  Maybe being in the same proximity as my lefthandedness caused the poor impressionable boy to become left handed.  Fundamentally, it's a choice, you know.  Even if he has left handed inclinations because of my poor qualities, he should have the decency to use his right hand.
 
2013-05-20 05:09:41 PM

Spanky McStupid: So when they "Deck the Halls" they cannot "don their gay apparel" at Christmas anymore?  Bummer.


We'll all feel gay when Johnny comes marching home.
 
2013-05-20 05:11:46 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Not a gay serf. Nor a gay landed peasant. Nay, not even a gay knight. A gay lord
 
2013-05-20 05:12:54 PM
Edugaytion.
 
2013-05-20 05:15:56 PM
I'm all for gay rights, gay marriage, gay adoption, and all that shiat, but stop trying to be the word police. It's gay.
 
2013-05-20 05:17:09 PM
he's got a point
 
2013-05-20 05:17:38 PM
The byline of this likely repressed homosexual's activist group, On My Honor, is "To keep Politics and Sexuality out of Scouting". He chosen method?- Start up a political group focussing on sexuality for scouting.
 
2013-05-20 05:21:41 PM

Lorelle: [www.genderads.com image 480x638]


Is that dude jerkin' the gherkin under his uniform ?!?!
 
2013-05-20 05:24:18 PM
Attention all straight people with children, anything with the word "gay" in it is "inappropriate for kids," says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Communists? Oh, he means homosexuals. So homosexuality is Communism?
 
2013-05-20 05:33:39 PM
That's retarded.
 
2013-05-20 05:34:19 PM

skullkrusher: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 277x400]

Not a gay serf. Nor a gay landed peasant. Nay, not even a gay knight. A gay lord


One gay to rule them all.
 
2013-05-20 05:35:49 PM

meanmutton: BMFPitt: There is no way I would entrust my kids with a guy that obnoxiously closeted.

It's amazing to me when people say something this stupidly homophobic and thinking that it's somehow a pro-gay rights statement.


Please elaborate on why you imagined this to be homophobic or an intended pro-gay rights statement.
 
2013-05-20 05:37:41 PM

Bonobo62: skullkrusher: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 277x400]

Not a gay serf. Nor a gay landed peasant. Nay, not even a gay knight. A gay lord

One gay to rule them all.


And in the gimp suits bind them?
 
2013-05-20 05:38:12 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-20 05:44:02 PM

RobSeace: FirstDennis: Can we still call them sodomites around the kids?

I always wondered why Sodom got a cool sexual term named after it, but Gomorrah didn't? At least, I never hear anyone call someone a gomorrite or talk about gomorrizing someone, anyway...


What does a giant, flying turtle have to do with this?
 
2013-05-20 05:46:41 PM
Don we now our gay apparel...... Why do christians hate christmas?
 
2013-05-20 05:46:48 PM

Walter Paisley: Attention all straight people with children, anything with the word "gay" in it is "inappropriate for kids," says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Communists? Oh, he means homosexuals. So homosexuality is Communism?


Yes.

Homosexual = Communist = Atheist
 
2013-05-20 05:52:14 PM
How did the word gay evolve into meaning homosexual? From a simple definition of "happy", I really can't imagine how in the world it started to mean a person's sexual orientation. Were homosexuals back then very happy and cheerful all the time, and that's why the word gay changed its meaning? Why is it that females who love females are called lesbians, even though sometimes people refer to them as "gay"? Don't homosexual men get to have a special word made for them like the lesbians?
 
2013-05-20 05:55:09 PM

GreenSun: How did the word gay evolve into meaning homosexual? From a simple definition of "happy", I really can't imagine how in the world it started to mean a person's sexual orientation. Were homosexuals back then very happy and cheerful all the time, and that's why the word gay changed its meaning? Why is it that females who love females are called lesbians, even though sometimes people refer to them as "gay"? Don't homosexual men get to have a special word made for them like the lesbians?


I would assume it's a term originally applied to flaming gay guys that today some might call "Fabulous!!" with arms in the air and feather boas and such.
 
2013-05-20 05:55:51 PM
That article was so full of stupid that it made my head hurt.

It reminded me of articles I read many, many years ago by the KKK, Union Organizers trying to get a union in somewhere, stuff from the McCarthy era (for you 'kids', McCarthy was a congressman who single handedly managed to promote a reign of terror in the US over Communism that ruined more lives and terrorized more people than anything since) and things written by assorted religious fanatics.

Funny how, over time, they all start to sound the same.
 
2013-05-20 05:56:59 PM
John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Normal straight people who would turn him in for raping children?
 
2013-05-20 05:59:10 PM

namegoeshere: Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?

You think I want nasty boy undies touching my girl clothes? Ew..


Hey, I wore women's clothing in the boys locker room in high-school!
 
2013-05-20 05:59:34 PM
 
2013-05-20 06:00:18 PM

edmo: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 480x552]


That kind of reminds me of how hilarious it was seeing Iggy Pop's Lust for Life, a song about Heroin and sodomy, being used in a Royal Caribbean cruise commercial portraying a family vacation.
 
2013-05-20 06:02:27 PM
We're talking about injecting hyper-sexuality and a leftist political agenda right into the veins of the Boy Scouts

shiat, I didn't realize we were shootin em up with it.  Jesus farking christ, gay people.  Really?


Although I support my gay brothers and sisters, shootin kids up with teh gay is going too far.
 
2013-05-20 06:02:45 PM
sleep without drugs??  how gay
 
2013-05-20 06:04:48 PM
 
2013-05-20 06:05:51 PM
Attention intolerant bigots and AW LBGTers.........................THE 1890s WANT A WORD, literally!  Get the fark over it!
 
2013-05-20 06:06:48 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: namegoeshere: Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?

You think I want nasty boy undies touching my girl clothes? Ew..

Hey, I wore women's clothing in the boys locker room in high-school!


Oh, well that's okay, then. Just no borrowing my razor. Your man-hair leaves it all jagged and dull.
 
2013-05-20 06:08:31 PM

GreenSun: How did the word gay evolve into meaning homosexual? From a simple definition of "happy", I really can't imagine how in the world it started to mean a person's sexual orientation. Were homosexuals back then very happy and cheerful all the time, and that's why the word gay changed its meaning? Why is it that females who love females are called lesbians, even though sometimes people refer to them as "gay"? Don't homosexual men get to have a special word made for them like the lesbians?


It never had that "simple definition".  It was also meant 'bright and showy' and has always been linked to immorality (which makes me happy when conservatives attempt to take the word back) .  And like many words - definitions evolve and change over time.
 
2013-05-20 06:13:29 PM

namegoeshere: I May Be Crazy But...: namegoeshere: Bullseyed: If gays should be allowed in the scouts, why exactly do we make boys and girls change in separate locker rooms?

You think I want nasty boy undies touching my girl clothes? Ew..

Hey, I wore women's clothing in the boys locker room in high-school!

Oh, well that's okay, then. Just no borrowing my razor. Your man-hair leaves it all jagged and dull.


I don't want to use your nice, flowery smelling toiletries, anyway. Even if it does leave my legs silky smooth.
 
2013-05-20 06:16:03 PM

cubic_spleen: says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Let's see, what else do All Republicans (of whom Stemberger is the statistical average) hate?

- compassion
- wisdom
- humility
- humanity
- life
- the future

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOP!


Which is why they are all such wonderful, Christian people. QED.
 
2013-05-20 06:18:17 PM

Kronnyj: http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=dRkIWB3HIEs

Don't say gay, say Takei


rhymes with teh gay
 
2013-05-20 06:25:01 PM
Today, Stemberger told the American Family Association's radio show that "anything that has the word 'gay' on it in our culture... is gonna be guaranteed to be inappropriate for kids" (video below).

Ah, yes, the American Family Association.

Would probably be considered a hate group in other Western nations.

But you have to let these bigots spew their bile. Frees speech and all,

Then you get to laugh and point fingers at these silly yee-haws who pine for the "Good Old Days" of Leave it to Beaver.
 
2013-05-20 06:29:20 PM
 
2013-05-20 06:32:40 PM
And what's scary is, he actually said just that.
 
2013-05-20 06:34:19 PM
I wonder if anyone has asked the actual boys in Scouts what they think of the situation? They are most likely more sexually knowledgeable (virgins or not) than most assume. We often dismiss or underestimate the "sexual education" that kids these days are exposed to. Their voice should be heard.
 
2013-05-20 06:38:06 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Would probably be considered a hate group in other Western nations.


They are . ...  http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/ameri c an-family-association#.UZqlirUqazQ
 
2013-05-20 06:42:11 PM

Cythraul: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]

BANNED!


Get that FILTH off my Fark!
 
2013-05-20 06:43:17 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: To guys like this, a framed picture of your same sex partner on your desk is flaunting your homosexuality. Basically even acknowledging that you're gay is TMI.


Yeah, it doesn't take much for some people to accuse others of "flaunting" it. What about when I dare kiss a girl in public (I'm a straight guy). Am I too "flaunting" my heterosexuality? And if so, why legions of gay people mad at me for doing it?

The good news is that by and large, these types are a dying breed. Literally and culturally. I can't remember the last person I met under a certain age that made a big deal about teh homoghey. It's 2013, dude, and the world is advancing without you whether you like it or not.
 
2013-05-20 06:46:15 PM

leonel: Cythraul: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x320]

BANNED!

Get that FILTH off my Fark!


Normally I'm all for getting some filth on my Fark, but that stuff would probably hurt.

/Icy Hot, Bengay may cause chemical burns, FDA warns
 
2013-05-20 06:49:19 PM
Most people with Scouting aged kids are in their 20's and 30's.

Most people in their 20's and 30's support gay rights.

One way or another this issue will be resolved soon.
 
2013-05-20 06:50:49 PM
www.otago.ac.nz
 
2013-05-20 06:51:47 PM

exick: They want to promote political, social agendas and that's just utterly inappropriate when kids are involved.

It's at this point that his head should have exploded from the cognitive dissonance.


Came here to say this.  Good work.
 
2013-05-20 06:54:13 PM
i don't care. it sounds gay.
 
2013-05-20 06:58:15 PM
Meh, sticks and stones. Let these blowhards talk their talk. Because that's all it is. They know they're losing, so they will say anything to shock their enemies.

They know better than to really do anything about it.
 
2013-05-20 06:58:53 PM
So I guess watching The Flintstones is out of the question.
 
2013-05-20 07:02:21 PM
Isn't that the policy of every public school these days?
 
2013-05-20 07:02:46 PM

Lorelle: This is perfectly acceptable, because "gay" isn't in it:

[pmlol.com image 623x480]


pmlol.com

I lol'd. I don't know if they still do group showers in schools, but as late as the early 90s (when I was in high school), that's how you showered after football practice. It was awkward because you had to do anything possible to not make eye contact with another guy's penis. I don't mean that to say that I'd be repulsed by it; it's just the unspoken rule not to be broken and sometimes when you turned around there was an unexpected dick right in front of you. After a few times in the shower you learn to just stop a giving a damn about being surrounded by penises. However, you never stared even if it was out of curiosity (half of human history can be explained as men comparing dick sizes).

"Hey Frank [whose dick is hanging out], that was an awesome punt return today."

"Thanks Alex [my dick also hanging out]." And then you just take a shower.

I imagine that groups showers no longer occur because of guys like the one in TFA being terrified that someone would be attracted to his son. Well, guess what bro - gay men have been looking at penises in group showers for as long as such showers have existed. Just as they've always been in the military and team sports. That it's 2013 and far fewer people care about teh ghey doesn't mean everyone suddenly turned fabulous overnight.
 
2013-05-20 07:03:18 PM

radiovox: So I guess watching The Flintstones is out of the question.


The Flintstones was a show developed for adults, not children.
 
Ant
2013-05-20 07:06:34 PM

InsaneJelloTroll: What about anything that has the word 'gay' in it?

  "James 2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:"


We already knew that the Holy Babble was inappropriate for kids.
 
2013-05-20 07:09:01 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-05-20 07:20:49 PM

dickfreckle: Lorelle: This is perfectly acceptable, because "gay" isn't in it:

[pmlol.com image 623x480]

[pmlol.com image 623x480]

I lol'd. I don't know if they still do group showers in schools, but as late as the early 90s (when I was in high school), that's how you showered after football practice. It was awkward because you had to do anything possible to not make eye contact with another guy's penis. I don't mean that to say that I'd be repulsed by it; it's just the unspoken rule not to be broken and sometimes when you turned around there was an unexpected dick right in front of you. After a few times in the shower you learn to just stop a giving a damn about being surrounded by penises. However, you never stared even if it was out of curiosity (half of human history can be explained as men comparing dick sizes).

"Hey Frank [whose dick is hanging out], that was an awesome punt return today."

"Thanks Alex [my dick also hanging out]." And then you just take a shower.

I imagine that groups showers no longer occur because of guys like the one in TFA being terrified that someone would be attracted to his son. Well, guess what bro - gay men have been looking at penises in group showers for as long as such showers have existed. Just as they've always been in the military and team sports. That it's 2013 and far fewer people care about teh ghey doesn't mean everyone suddenly turned fabulous overnight.


Is Alex the one who coined your handle?
 
2013-05-20 07:28:04 PM
How gay.
 
2013-05-20 07:48:16 PM
memecrunch.com
 
2013-05-20 08:02:57 PM

cubic_spleen: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOP!


I'm thankful that my drink was empty, or I'd be mopping it up right now.
 
2013-05-20 08:40:02 PM
We could always change the dictionary definition.  It's been done before.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-20 08:45:38 PM

Lochsteppe: Is Alex the one who coined your handle?


Believe it or not, I don't actually have a freckle on my sadly average penis. The handle started as something of an inside joke after a girlfriend and her relatives got hold of my old login (because I gave it to them while drunk) but I kept using this one, which means my reputation (such as it is) is now to tied to this name. I want to change it but would hate having to spend two years rebuilding a reputation in the Fark.com community.

I'm dickfreckle all over the 'tubes. Now that I'm stuck with it, why the hell not.

Also, "Alex" is not my real name. But I needed a fake one when telling personal stories.
 
2013-05-20 08:49:08 PM

cubic_spleen: says anti-gay activist John Stemberger who is fighting to keep you-know-what out of the Boy Scouts

Let's see, what else do All Republicans (of whom Stemberger is the statistical average) hate?

- compassion
- wisdom
- humility
- humanity
- life
- the future

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOP!


Strange for the Strange Throne!
 
2013-05-20 09:00:36 PM
I'm guessing the son isn't gay. He tries to be all sly, but you can tell he's into the boobies. Then again, who isn't?

/I might not be no psychiatrist, I'm guessing that the kids watching a show with a gay person won't make them gay. Will & Grace annoyed the shiat out of me, though. Something about that gay Sambo character pissed me the hell off... mostly about the Sambo-ness, and not the gay-ness.
 
2013-05-20 09:12:50 PM
The way some are so vociferously railing against homosexuals today, you'd think gay was something that didnt exist before.
 
2013-05-20 09:22:18 PM
As a parent of 4 children I would love to tell this guy to shut the hell up.
 
2013-05-20 09:46:15 PM

Lorelle: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x1343]


On a  completely unrelated note....what the hell does "plain" Ovaltine taste like?
 
2013-05-20 09:56:58 PM
I like that phrase. "Anti-gay activist." Let me see if I have this right.


Anti-gay activist:

i2.ytimg.com

Anti-black activist:

lansingworkerscenter.files.wordpress.com

Anti-Catholic activist:

3.bp.blogspot.com

(and yes, that particular dob is none other than Nick "Testicle Face" Griffin)
 
2013-05-20 10:10:26 PM

Gordon Bennett: I like that phrase. "Anti-gay activist." Let me see if I have this right.


Anti-gay activist:

[i2.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Anti-black activist:

[lansingworkerscenter.files.wordpress.com image 600x464]

Anti-Catholic activist:

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 800x533]

(and yes, that particular dob is none other than Nick "Testicle Face" Griffin)


That woman wearing glasses in the KKK picture looks kind of like David Koresh. Any conspiracy theorists willing to run with this?
 
2013-05-20 10:25:24 PM
I am going to say something in a different direction,,,

Why then can or can't I do or say the same thing about "Christians?"  I could argue that (the forced) teaching of "Christianity"  violates my rights as a "Pagan." If I were to say the same sort of "education," or say that xian teachings were a problem, I would/have-been be vilified..

So many "Christians" complain now about being oppressed when they actively now, and have historically oppressed, anyone who is not "Christian" without at second thought. Why the duplicity?

/I once managed  the other half of a duplex to a hardcore "Evangelical Christian" family who freaked out and couldn't understand how I could be more "pure" and "pennant" and "moral" then they were, and be a "evil" pagan"...
 
2013-05-20 11:00:24 PM

TheDirtyNacho: Guys like this end up being gay themselves.  So self loathing they are, they try to suppress even the very mention of it.

I bet you this guy lusts for men and just can't stand it.


Specifically, anytime you come across someone who thinks teh gay is contagious, there are very good odds that that person experiences some same-sex attraction themselves, not reading that the vast majority are not and never will be "tempted" in the slightest.

Now, dudes who go on about how disgusting and horrible teh gay is, those guys are probably just assholes - though there's good odds that they are misogynists who live in mortal fear that some guy wants to treat them the way they themselves treat women.
 
2013-05-20 11:07:03 PM
No more "My Old Kentucky Home"...
 
2013-05-20 11:19:34 PM

Lorelle: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x1343]


I love it : )
 
2013-05-20 11:21:29 PM

exick: They want to promote political, social agendas and that's just utterly inappropriate when kida are involved.

It's at this point that his head should have exploded from the cognitive dissonance.


Fourteenth'ed or so... Sorry, don't have time to read the whole thread.
 
2013-05-21 12:34:28 AM
So how long before Mr. John Sternberger is caught with some rentboy or twink???
 
2013-05-21 12:43:00 AM

ISO15693: A few weekends ago, at an LDS father-son camp, we sang (among many other songs) "Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree":

Kookaburra sits in the old gum tree
Merry, merry king of the bush is he
Laugh, Kookaburra! Laugh, Kookaburra!
Gay your life must be

Not one person mentioned, or had an issue with, the last line of that verse. Everyone understood the context. There wasn't any reason to censor the song. It never occurred to me that it might be an issue for someone. The kids ranged from 2 to 16 or so.

The only reason we sang it was because one of the dads was Australian. Obviously the kids were smart enough to understand the context, with the word meaning happy.


Someone tell the primary, then.  "gladly helping each other, merry and happy and gay are they".
 
2013-05-21 12:44:58 AM

xria: "Anti-gay activist" has the word gay in it, so by his own rules he should have nothing to do with children and the Boy Scouts in particular, right?


Except he won't call himself an "anti-gay activist."   These right-wing folks never do.  Just as people opposed to legal abortion call themselves "Pro-Life" rather than "anti-choice" or "anti-abortion," the anti-gay folks like to call themselves "pro-family values" or something like that.

That's something the Right-wing folks do very effectively.  They take a neutral or positive term like "family" and charge it with a political meaning.
 
2013-05-21 01:03:39 AM

ciberido: xria: "Anti-gay activist" has the word gay in it, so by his own rules he should have nothing to do with children and the Boy Scouts in particular, right?

Except he won't call himself an "anti-gay activist."   These right-wing folks never do.  Just as people opposed to legal abortion call themselves "Pro-Life" rather than "anti-choice" or "anti-abortion," the anti-gay folks like to call themselves "pro-family values" or something like that.

That's something the Right-wing folks do very effectively.  They take a neutral or positive term like "family" and charge it with a political meaning.


Well of coarse you wouldn't expect them to call their organization we wanna crucify gay people would you?
 
2013-05-21 01:06:57 AM

Seventyfifth: No more "My Old Kentucky Home"...


They already had to edit that line once.
 
2013-05-21 01:11:52 AM

stampylives: namegoeshere: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.

did your autocorrect turn "vacation" into "sexuality" at the end there, or are you just an asshole?


Well, since we're asking about motivations, did you fail to see his point because you're stupid, or are you pretending to be stupid to be an asshole?
 
2013-05-21 01:30:00 AM

ciberido: stampylives: namegoeshere: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.

did your autocorrect turn "vacation" into "sexuality" at the end there, or are you just an asshole?

Well, since we're asking about motivations, did you fail to see his point because you're stupid, or are you pretending to be stupid to be an asshole?


Hmmm, actually you know one would be discussing sexuality and one would be discussing a vacation so, no need to call anyone an asshole here.
 
2013-05-21 01:37:40 AM

GreenSun: How did the word gay evolve into meaning homosexual? From a simple definition of "happy", I really can't imagine how in the world it started to mean a person's sexual orientation. Were homosexuals back then very happy and cheerful all the time, and that's why the word gay changed its meaning? Why is it that females who love females are called lesbians, even though sometimes people refer to them as "gay"? Don't homosexual men get to have a special word made for them like the lesbians?


As you might expect, "gay" meaning "homosexual" comes from earlier meanings of "gay" such as "immoral," which date back  to the 1630s.
 
2013-05-21 01:41:50 AM
That's so takei.

/Oh myyy
 
2013-05-21 01:46:34 AM

ciberido: GreenSun: How did the word gay evolve into meaning homosexual? From a simple definition of "happy", I really can't imagine how in the world it started to mean a person's sexual orientation. Were homosexuals back then very happy and cheerful all the time, and that's why the word gay changed its meaning? Why is it that females who love females are called lesbians, even though sometimes people refer to them as "gay"? Don't homosexual men get to have a special word made for them like the lesbians?

As you might expect, "gay" meaning "homosexual" comes from earlier meanings of "gay" such as "immoral," which date back  to the 1630s.


Interesting I did not know that.
 
2013-05-21 01:56:50 AM

dickfreckle: Lorelle: This is perfectly acceptable, because "gay" isn't in it:

[pmlol.com image 623x480]

[pmlol.com image 623x480]

I lol'd. I don't know if they still do group showers in schools, but as late as the early 90s (when I was in high school), that's how you showered after football practice. It was awkward because you had to do anything possible to not make eye contact with another guy's penis. I don't mean that to say that I'd be repulsed by it; it's just the unspoken rule not to be broken and sometimes when you turned around there was an unexpected dick right in front of you. After a few times in the shower you learn to just stop a giving a damn about being surrounded by penises.


I've seen a few penises in my time, but I've never seen one with eyes before.  I'm pretty sure if I looked at a naked guy and saw his penis was looking back at me, I WOULD make eye contact.
 
2013-05-21 02:01:10 AM

ciberido: dickfreckle: Lorelle: This is perfectly acceptable, because "gay" isn't in it:

[pmlol.com image 623x480]

[pmlol.com image 623x480]

I lol'd. I don't know if they still do group showers in schools, but as late as the early 90s (when I was in high school), that's how you showered after football practice. It was awkward because you had to do anything possible to not make eye contact with another guy's penis. I don't mean that to say that I'd be repulsed by it; it's just the unspoken rule not to be broken and sometimes when you turned around there was an unexpected dick right in front of you. After a few times in the shower you learn to just stop a giving a damn about being surrounded by penises.

I've seen a few penises in my time, but I've never seen one with eyes before.  I'm pretty sure if I looked at a naked guy and saw his penis was looking back at me, I WOULD make eye contact.


Oh, you, LOL : )
 
2013-05-21 02:06:16 AM

tinfoil-hat maggie: ciberido: stampylives: namegoeshere: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.

did your autocorrect turn "vacation" into "sexuality" at the end there, or are you just an asshole?

Well, since we're asking about motivations, did you fail to see his point because you're stupid, or are you pretending to be stupid to be an asshole?

Hmmm, actually you know one would be discussing sexuality and one would be discussing a vacation so, no need to call anyone an asshole here.



If a man says, "I went camping with my wife/girlfriend," he's declaring himself to be heterosexual.

If a man says, "I went camping with my husband/boyfriend," he's declaring himself to be homosexual.   A statement that casual and innocuous outs you instantly.  It isn't "being in your face," it isn't "shoving it down your throat," but it DOES identify you as homosexual.

People "discuss their sexuality" all the damn time.  It's so difficult not to that the practice of avoiding specifying your sexuality is called the pronoun game and it is a skill that lbgtq people develop over a lifetime, unless/until they come out of the closet.  (And even then, most gay folks who are "out of the closet" are still "in the closet" with respect to SOMEBODY somewhere).

When non-lbgtq folks say things like, "I don't care if you're gay, just don't shove it down my throat," they either have no idea what they are actually saying, they're being dishonest, or they're being assholes.  One of those three.
 
2013-05-21 02:18:47 AM

ciberido: tinfoil-hat maggie: ciberido: stampylives: namegoeshere: Wellon Dowd: As a Scout leader I'd advise anyone to keep their sons out of a troop that discusses the leaders' sexuality, whatever it is.

A straight scout leader could say, "My wife and I camped here last summer," without raising an eyebrow.  A gay scout leader (LOLWUT?) could not say, "My husband and I went camping here last summer," because that would be discussing their sexuality.

did your autocorrect turn "vacation" into "sexuality" at the end there, or are you just an asshole?

Well, since we're asking about motivations, did you fail to see his point because you're stupid, or are you pretending to be stupid to be an asshole?

Hmmm, actually you know one would be discussing sexuality and one would be discussing a vacation so, no need to call anyone an asshole here.


If a man says, "I went camping with my wife/girlfriend," he's declaring himself to be heterosexual.

If a man says, "I went camping with my husband/boyfriend," he's declaring himself to be homosexual.   A statement that casual and innocuous outs you instantly.  It isn't "being in your face," it isn't "shoving it down your throat," but it DOES identify you as homosexual.

People "discuss their sexuality" all the damn time.  It's so difficult not to that the practice of avoiding specifying your sexuality is called the pronoun game and it is a skill that lbgtq people develop over a lifetime, unless/until they come out of the closet.  (And even then, most gay folks who are "out of the closet" are still "in the closet" with respect to SOMEBODY somewhere).

When non-lbgtq folks say things like, "I don't care if you're gay, just don't shove it down my throat," they either have no idea what they are actually saying, they're being dishonest, or they're being assholes.  One of those three.


Oh, I know and maybe I didn't read the thread close enough before posting, I mean I've called people out on saying "I can't stand gays being all out and shoving it down our thoughts" then turning around and saying "my wife and I"
/Well you get the point.
//And yea I agree with your last statement.
 
2013-05-21 02:20:24 AM
Sorry been reading crazy tornado threads all day : (
Oh and I'm out of booze.
/not good
 
2013-05-21 03:07:44 AM

GreenSun: How did the word gay evolve into meaning homosexual? From a simple definition of "happy", I really can't imagine how in the world it started to mean a person's sexual orientation. Were homosexuals back then very happy and cheerful all the time, and that's why the word gay changed its meaning? Why is it that females who love females are called lesbians, even though sometimes people refer to them as "gay"? Don't homosexual men get to have a special word made for them like the lesbians?


No longer can ordinary people (such as we) use an ordinary word (like gay) in an ordinary example of the great British sentence. Without people thinking that you mean pouffe.
And there's another one, pouffe. Used to use it all the time, but now people think you mean arsebandit.

/back in a moment darling, just taking the arsebandit to the menders
//happy to have kids in the Scouts (no, not in the USA)
///scouts here can not only say, sing and semaphore the word gay, they can also be gay.
 
2013-05-21 03:18:11 AM

Lorelle: [katnip.files.wordpress.com image 500x356]


[Gay Johnny and the Texas Vegetables]

OMG!  That would be the most awesome band name EVAR!

capstonereport.com
 
2013-05-21 03:26:58 AM

dickfreckle: "Hey Frank [whose dick is hanging out], that was an awesome punt return today."

"Thanks Alex [my dick also hanging out]." And then you just take a shower.


i115.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-21 08:04:31 AM

dickfreckle: It was awkward because you had to do anything possible to not make eye contact with another guy's penis.


Obviously, you weren't looking at the penises closely enough.  They don't actually have eyes.  If the ones in your school locker room did, odds are they were painted or glue because the other boys suspected one of their classmates was a dick watcher and they wanted to mess with him.
 
2013-05-21 09:21:22 AM
Ensign George Gay to be taken out of our history books.
 
2013-05-21 10:38:16 AM
cocks?

:D
 
2013-05-21 12:48:51 PM
queermusicheritage.us
 
2013-05-21 12:49:26 PM
ic.pics.livejournal.com
 
2013-05-21 12:53:32 PM
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-21 12:55:16 PM
pzrservices.typepad.com
 
2013-05-21 12:56:34 PM
worldofwonder.net
 
2013-05-21 04:03:08 PM
Seeing all of the old-timey gay ads makes me think that someone could make a mint branding something as "gay" in an ironic, old-timey yet self-aware way. Folks would buy that gay crap up just because "Tee hee! It's 'Gay'!", especially as gifts. And then the joke would get old and "gay" would be normalized.
 
2013-05-21 09:26:30 PM
Not such a good strategy actually. A lot of people today think retro-vintage stuff is legitimately homosexual.
 
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