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(The Big Lead)   Miguel Cabrera is having one of the best offensive seasons in the history of baseball...so why is no one talking about it?   (thebiglead.com) divider line 113
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2013-05-20 02:35:31 PM  
Every time he sneezes his nose looks like a party favor?
 
2013-05-20 02:44:01 PM  
1. Because it's May
2. Because it's the Tigers
3. Because it's the AL Central
4. Because it's NBA playoff time
5. Because It's the Cup!

But mostly the first one.
 
2013-05-20 02:58:50 PM  
Because *.  Like everything else in sports today.
 
2013-05-20 03:02:28 PM  

exick: 1. Because it's May
2. Because it's the Tigers
3. Because it's the AL Central
4. Because it's NBA playoff time
5. Because It's the Cup!


But mostly the first one.

 
2013-05-20 03:09:52 PM  
Really? I don't follow baseball at all and I've heard about it.
 
2013-05-20 03:43:46 PM  
Because we're offended.
 
2013-05-20 03:52:06 PM  
He hasn't fixed the cable
 
2013-05-20 04:01:59 PM  
They were just talking about it at length today on MLB Home Plate on XM.
 
2013-05-20 04:28:00 PM  

Nogrhi: Because *.


Was coming in to say something like this.  The writer says that if he'd come up before the 1994 strike, he would be lauded as a hero, but baseball had several of those in the two decades since... and now nearly all of them now have an asterisk next to their names.
 
2013-05-20 04:42:28 PM  

timujin: Nogrhi: Because *.

Was coming in to say something like this.  The writer says that if he'd come up before the 1994 strike, he would be lauded as a hero, but baseball had several of those in the two decades since... and now nearly all of them now have an asterisk next to their names.


I think it has less to do with the steroid era and more to do with the diminished place baseball has in American culture compared to the NFL. And, as the article says, Cabrera is very quiet and sort of eschews the spotlight.  I'm not sure what you mean by "several of those in the two decades since [1994]" unless you mean heroes and not triple crown winners.  Cabrera was the first since 1967 when he won it last year.  If Cabrera is still on this torrid pace come August or September, I think the buzz will grow, especially if the Tigers are in contention.
 
2013-05-20 04:51:23 PM  
because we're still in the first third of the season?
 
2013-05-20 05:17:16 PM  
i264.photobucket.com
I still have no idea what he was doing at the Billboard Awards.
 
2013-05-20 05:23:30 PM  

Nabb1: timujin: Nogrhi: Because *.

Was coming in to say something like this.  The writer says that if he'd come up before the 1994 strike, he would be lauded as a hero, but baseball had several of those in the two decades since... and now nearly all of them now have an asterisk next to their names.

I think it has less to do with the steroid era and more to do with the diminished place baseball has in American culture compared to the NFL. And, as the article says, Cabrera is very quiet and sort of eschews the spotlight.  I'm not sure what you mean by "several of those in the two decades since [1994]" unless you mean heroes and not triple crown winners.  Cabrera was the first since 1967 when he won it last year.  If Cabrera is still on this torrid pace come August or September, I think the buzz will grow, especially if the Tigers are in contention.


I meant "heroes", specifically referring to the line in TFA: Think of it this way, if Cabrera's career was taking place in any era of baseball pre-1994 strike, there'd be songs written about him, cheesy songs but songs nonetheless.

And, again, you say that it has more to do with the NFL than with problems within the sport itself, but I think it is as much the result of those problems that have allowed for the rise of other sports as it is what those sports have brought to the table themselves.  The NFL has been around nearly as long as the National and American Leagues, it can't all be just "people suddenly started liking football".  I really believe people are disillusioned with the players.  And not because they're worse than football players, but because they were held to a higher standard in the national consciousness.  Sure, some were real assholes, but as a whole baseball players have been looked at as being "the good guys" compared to the standard view of football players as barbarians who just like to hit each other.
 
2013-05-20 05:25:25 PM  
Because it's May.

Nothing meaningful happens in baseball before the break. Let's see how he's doing in late August.
 
2013-05-20 05:25:51 PM  
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2013-05-20 05:28:09 PM  
He just hit 3 of the hrs last night and its only May.
 
2013-05-20 05:30:27 PM  
Has anyone mentioned that they are only 27% of the way into the season?
That and Miguel is kinda boring.
 
2013-05-20 05:33:15 PM  
We will discuss this in August.
 
2013-05-20 05:35:17 PM  
...Tebow?
 
2013-05-20 05:37:11 PM  
Miguel Cabrera is having one of the best offensive seasons in the history of baseball...so why is no one talking about it?

Well there's yer problem.
 
2013-05-20 05:38:03 PM  
Because Tebow
Because the Knicks ("storied franchise" my ass.  2 titles 50 years ago.  don't give me "storied franchise".  hell, the Spurs have more titles in the past decade than the 'Bockers have in team history.  spare me the "storied franchise" BS)
Because hockey
Because Danica
Because Tebow
 
2013-05-20 05:38:18 PM  
Sorry, can't tear myself away from the national backgammon championships.
 
2013-05-20 05:40:25 PM  
Why?Because you touch yourself at night.
 
2013-05-20 05:40:33 PM  
Because we're barely a quarter into the season?
 
2013-05-20 05:42:12 PM  
Because it's

exick: 1. Because it's May


jackiepaper: because we're still in the first third of the season?


whistleridge: Because it's May.


azwethnkweiz: He just hit 3 of the hrs last night and its only May.


Kygz: Has anyone mentioned that they are only 27% of the way into the season?


qorkfiend: Because we're barely a quarter into the season?


Thanks everyone!
 
2013-05-20 05:43:23 PM  

seumasokelly: We will discuss this in August.


That (and it's only May).

I recall, 15 years ago or so, that...one of the Orioles (Alomar?) was close to ending a season above .400 batting. With a week or so to go, he was at .403, .405 or something, and then "fell" into an 0-10 "slump" (something that happens to all players over a season, no big deal) and ended at .398, and sports media treated it like he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

// yes, AVG is different than a counting stat
// but slumps are still a thing, as is regression toward the mean
 
2013-05-20 05:43:27 PM  

exick: 5. Because It's the Cup!

 
2013-05-20 05:54:40 PM  

PowerSlacker: exick: 5. Because It's the Cup!


What is that?  Quidditch?

www.bu.edu
 
2013-05-20 06:02:41 PM  

Dr Dreidel: seumasokelly: We will discuss this in August.

That (and it's only May).

I recall, 15 years ago or so, that...one of the Orioles (Alomar?) was close to ending a season above .400 batting. With a week or so to go, he was at .403, .405 or something, and then "fell" into an 0-10 "slump" (something that happens to all players over a season, no big deal) and ended at .398, and sports media treated it like he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

// yes, AVG is different than a counting stat
// but slumps are still a thing, as is regression toward the mean


I'm trying to figure out who the heck you're talking about.
 
2013-05-20 06:04:12 PM  

NuttierThanEver: Every time he sneezes his nose looks like a party favor?


Dagnabbit...now I'm going to be looking for it, thanks.

/fark you, Jobu, I do it myself
 
2013-05-20 06:06:10 PM  
Just because I looked it up and then laughed.

Here are Cabrera's stats this year, as of May 20:

42 G, 11HR, .387/.457/.659

Here are Chris Shelton's stats on May 20, 2006:

42 G, 11HR, .315/.380/.638

Basically, Cabrera has walked & singled more, and has fewer triples.
 
2013-05-20 06:08:33 PM  
WHY HASN'T ANYONE MENTIONED THAT IT'S ONLY MAY?!?!?!?!!??!!
 
2013-05-20 06:10:11 PM  

Rex_Banner: WHY HASN'T ANYONE MENTIONED THAT IT'S ONLY MAY?!?!?!?!!??!!


Calendars are racist.
 
2013-05-20 06:14:16 PM  
Well, as the 2003 World Series Champion Kansas City Royals can tell you, the season's basically over in May. Book it, done.
 
2013-05-20 06:20:05 PM  
Follow Buster Olney on Twitter, he was amazed last night at how great of a hitter Miguel Cabrera has become.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:01 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Dr Dreidel: I recall, 15 years ago or so, that...one of the Orioles (Alomar?) was close to ending a season above .400 batting. With a week or so to go, he was at .403, .405 or something, and then "fell" into an 0-10 "slump" (something that happens to all players over a season, no big deal) and ended at .398, and sports media treated it like he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

I'm trying to figure out who the heck you're talking about.


lmgtfy...http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1996-05-28/sports/19961490 75_1_tony-g wynn-alomar-love-lucy

That's the closest I get, but that doesn't show most of those details (and it's an article from late May, for the lulz).

// maybe I confused it with Helton's 2000 season?
 
2013-05-20 06:22:45 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Dr Dreidel: seumasokelly: We will discuss this in August.

That (and it's only May).

I recall, 15 years ago or so, that...one of the Orioles (Alomar?) was close to ending a season above .400 batting. With a week or so to go, he was at .403, .405 or something, and then "fell" into an 0-10 "slump" (something that happens to all players over a season, no big deal) and ended at .398, and sports media treated it like he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

// yes, AVG is different than a counting stat
// but slumps are still a thing, as is regression toward the mean

I'm trying to figure out who the heck you're talking about.


You might be referring to Tony Gwynn's .394 season in 1994, and the "cheated us" outrage of that year was the strike-shortened season, so there's no knowing what a full schedule would have yielded.
 
2013-05-20 06:22:48 PM  

Larry Mahnken: Dr Dreidel: seumasokelly: We will discuss this in August.

That (and it's only May).

I recall, 15 years ago or so, that...one of the Orioles (Alomar?) was close to ending a season above .400 batting. With a week or so to go, he was at .403, .405 or something, and then "fell" into an 0-10 "slump" (something that happens to all players over a season, no big deal) and ended at .398, and sports media treated it like he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

// yes, AVG is different than a counting stat
// but slumps are still a thing, as is regression toward the mean

I'm trying to figure out who the heck you're talking about.


Last person I can think of that came that close is Tony Gwynn in 1994.
 
2013-05-20 06:28:31 PM  
Only players to hit .390 since Ted Williams hit .406 in 1941 are George Brett (.390 in 1980) and Tony Gwynn (.394 in a strike-shortened 1994).

Williams himself and Rod Carew both had .388 seasons in there.
 
2013-05-20 06:30:49 PM  
Dr Dreidel:... he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

THANKS OBAMA!
 
2013-05-20 06:32:18 PM  
From the article: "...especially in light of his two separate alcohol-related off-field incidents, which sadly were what many casual baseball fans might have associated him with prior to last year's MVP campaign."

Yeah, I'm going to disagree on the "sadly" part.
 
2013-05-20 06:32:50 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Larry Mahnken: Dr Dreidel: I recall, 15 years ago or so, that...one of the Orioles (Alomar?) was close to ending a season above .400 batting. With a week or so to go, he was at .403, .405 or something, and then "fell" into an 0-10 "slump" (something that happens to all players over a season, no big deal) and ended at .398, and sports media treated it like he'd cheated us out of seeing a unicorn farking a leprechaun or something.

I'm trying to figure out who the heck you're talking about.

lmgtfy...http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1996-05-28/sports/19961490 75_1_tony-g wynn-alomar-love-lucy

That's the closest I get, but that doesn't show most of those details (and it's an article from late May, for the lulz).

// maybe I confused it with Helton's 2000 season?


So, after that article was published, Alomar proceeded to hit .294 for the rest of the season.

Good job, young Buster Olney & Tony Gwynn.
 
2013-05-20 06:36:41 PM  

rcf1105: From the article: "...especially in light of his two separate alcohol-related off-field incidents, which sadly were what many casual baseball fans might have associated him with prior to last year's MVP campaign."

Yeah, I'm going to disagree on the "sadly" part.


You're forgetting that in the MLB, alcohol abuse is practically encouraged.
 
2013-05-20 06:41:10 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Good job, young Buster Olney & Tony Gwynn.


I guess Tony Gwynn can only see into the future by a few fractions of a second.

// between him and Kirby Puckett, there should be no shame in being a fat baseball player
// between him and Kirby Puckett, there is very little room
 
2013-05-20 06:43:21 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Rex_Banner: WHY HASN'T ANYONE MENTIONED THAT IT'S ONLY MAY?!?!?!?!!??!!

Calendars are racist.


I bet calendars also have a bias towards bigger markets. If Cabrera played in LA or NY, it would probably be July already
 
2013-05-20 06:50:15 PM  
I'm hoping Subby is being sarcastic.  The announcers of last night's Tex/Det game spent 9 innings gargling Miggy's balls even though Detroit lost.
 
2013-05-20 06:50:57 PM  
So, I just watched the other Miguel referenced in the article. That leg drop. Beautiful... Just beautiful.
 
2013-05-20 06:52:24 PM  
Benghazi?
 
2013-05-20 06:53:36 PM  

Rex_Banner: DeWayne Mann: Rex_Banner: WHY HASN'T ANYONE MENTIONED THAT IT'S ONLY MAY?!?!?!?!!??!!

Calendars are racist.

I bet calendars also have a bias towards bigger markets. If Cabrera played in LA or NY, it would probably be July already


I'm pretty sure the Yankees already made the playoffs, so you're right.

unamused: I'm hoping Subby is being sarcastic.  The announcers of last night's Tex/Det game spent 9 innings gargling Miggy's balls even though Detroit lost.


Oh, you should read the article. Apparently, Miguel Cabrera should be having songs written about him, just about this season.
 
2013-05-20 07:00:03 PM  

DeWayne Mann: rcf1105: From the article: "...especially in light of his two separate alcohol-related off-field incidents, which sadly were what many casual baseball fans might have associated him with prior to last year's MVP campaign."

Yeah, I'm going to disagree on the "sadly" part.

You're forgetting that in the MLB, alcohol abuse is practically encouraged.


But enough about the Red Sox club house.

/I bet Ortiz can throw em back
 
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