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(RealClearPolitics)   It's been a bad week for Obama to quit smoking weed   (realclearpolitics.com) divider line 101
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2013-05-20 02:03:02 PM  
My god they are trying to make this stick, come hell or high water. Even if they have to compare him to ALL of the recent Republican presidents to do it.
 
2013-05-20 02:03:19 PM  
An RCP link greenlighted with zero comments? I'm sure this one's a real winner, Admins.
 
2013-05-20 02:04:00 PM  
Republicans and 'conservative media' spend all weekend comparing Obama to Nixon.
On Monday, they google "Obama Nixon" and spend all week righting articles about how "people" are making the comparison.

And in the end, we're no closer to finding out what really happened, or why it's a scandal.
 
2013-05-20 02:04:33 PM  
It's been a great week to be a feces hurling pundit!
 
2013-05-20 02:04:36 PM  

KyngNothing: Republicans and 'conservative media' spend all weekend comparing Obama to Nixon.
On Monday, they google "Obama Nixon" and spend all week righting articles about how "people" are making the comparison.

And in the end, we're no closer to finding out what really happened, or why it's a scandal.


Holy hell, I meant "writing"...
 
2013-05-20 02:05:49 PM  
it's obvious he's still sniffing glue.
 
2013-05-20 02:07:30 PM  
This is Obama's Teapot Dome.
 
2013-05-20 02:07:34 PM  
Gee, it's almost as if the modmins don't care about quality and only want sensationalism and shiatposting to drive clicks!

Say it ain't so!
 
2013-05-20 02:08:32 PM  
Summary of the article:  "We don't know what Obama actually thinks or says, but we assume he's exactly like Nixon"
Summary of the author:
howbigismypotato.com
 
2013-05-20 02:08:38 PM  
Ok, so:

1. My dad was a respected journalist, and covered Watergate, and I believe that his sheen carries over to me, and allows me to equate Watergate with, well, whatever I like
2. I write for a partisan web site where blogging and insinuation have replaced investigative journalism.  Our method of investigating is to say, "Why doesn't Obama prove to us that he isn't history's greatest monster?  What is he hiding?"
3. "We don't know if Obama or his minions also keep enemies lists, if only in their heads."  We also don't know if Carl Cannon has been kidnapping, killing and eating young children.  Can't rule it in.  Can't rule it out.
4. "But we do know that they view the media with the same with-us-or-against-us mentality that Nixon fostered."  No other presidents have done this.  Just Nixon and Obama.  Nixon and Obama.  Obama and NIxon.  Nixon. Obama.  Obama.  Nixon.  Nixon=Obama=Nixon=Obama
 
2013-05-20 02:09:13 PM  
For those who can't be bothered to click (and I wish I was one of you), I stopped reading when the article mentioned that there's no evidence that Obama or anyone under his authority did anything wrong, but absence of evidence for illicit activity isn't the only standard.  I can't quote, because I can't imagine going back to that article, let alone reading enough of it to find the actual quote.  Your mileage may vary, but if you're at all sensitive to insanity, you might want to pass on this one.

Cheers.
 
2013-05-20 02:09:25 PM  
The closest comparable former President is Ronald Reagan.
 
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2013-05-20 02:09:29 PM  
Milhous?

i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-05-20 02:09:31 PM  
Carl Cannon picked a bad week to stop humping the floor.
 
2013-05-20 02:10:25 PM  

KyngNothing: Holy hell, I meant "writing"...


I like your first hybrid verb better
 
2013-05-20 02:13:54 PM  
No evidence has been unearthed connecting Obama, or anyone under his direction, to illicit activities. But the absence of criminality isn't the only test here. Nixon's "enemies," at least in his mind, also included vast swaths of the Fourth Estate. That apparently is how the current president operates, too.


Wow what a piece of shiat
 
2013-05-20 02:15:51 PM  

zez: Milhous?

[i3.kym-cdn.com image 300x300]


I totally didn't know Nixons middle name ws Milhous, what a hilarious connection.
 
2013-05-20 02:16:00 PM  
My father, Lou Cannon, covered the White House with distinction for the Washington Post

That's Lou S. Cannon, I presume.
 
2013-05-20 02:16:56 PM  
I love how republicans have to add "Gate" to their made up "scandals" for democrats so you don't actually look at the details and just go "Look it has 'gate' on the end, it MUST be a scandal!" This is the same thing "Look we are comparing him to Nixon, he then MUST be guilty!!"

It's what you do in advertising you put things together to associate them even if there is no proof. It's pure propaganda 101.
 
2013-05-20 02:18:12 PM  
The link Dusk posted in the other thread should have stopped that conversation cold, and I expect it will be just as futile in this thread, but some of you may read it.

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2013/may/18/why-obama-is-not-nix o n/

But, yeah, hey, sure. Nixon. Why not? Nobody was buying that socialist Kenyan stuff anyway.
 
2013-05-20 02:18:16 PM  

Jackson Herring: No evidence has been unearthed connecting Obama, or anyone under his direction, to illicit activities. But the absence of criminality isn't the only test here. Nixon's "enemies," at least in his mind, also included vast swaths of the Fourth Estate. That apparently is how the current president operates, too.


Wow what a piece of shiat


The fact that he says SEVERAL TIMES in the article "we don't know for sure", "no evidence has been found"... I just want to punch him in the cock, preferably with spiked brass knuckles.
 
2013-05-20 02:19:28 PM  
Wait, wasn't there an attempt by Republicans in recent years to say "you know, other than that whole Watergate thing, if you ignore that, Nixon was really a pretty great president wasn't he?
 
2013-05-20 02:19:37 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: The link Dusk posted in the other thread should have stopped that conversation cold, and I expect it will be just as futile in this thread, but some of you may read it.

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2013/may/18/why-obama-is-not-nix o n/

But, yeah, hey, sure. Nixon. Why not? Nobody was buying that socialist Kenyan stuff anyway.


So then by the associative property Nixon was Hitler?
 
2013-05-20 02:19:56 PM  

Corvus: I love how republicans have to add "Gate" to their made up "scandals" for democrats so you don't actually look at the details and just go "Look it has 'gate' on the end, it MUST be a scandal!" This is the same thing "Look we are comparing him to Nixon, he then MUST be guilty!!"

It's what you do in advertising you put things together to associate them even if there is no proof. It's pure propaganda 101.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_with_%22-gate%22_suffi x
 
2013-05-20 02:20:06 PM  

KyngNothing: And in the end, we're no closer to finding out what really happened, or why it's a scandal.


Well...  You could start by taking a step into reality and not seeing everything as a scandal to begin with.

That's what is puzzling.  The fact that it's not a scandal is somehow proof to Republicans that it IS a scandal.  You'd think people would be disgusted by the craven desperation of the GOP on this matter.  It's weird and childish and sickening, but people have been told to dislike Obama, and now they are setting aside their common sense and whatever decency they may have once had in order to try and find a reason to dislike him that's not related to race.
 
2013-05-20 02:20:07 PM  
who says he quit smoking weed?  I don't remember a drug test being part of the nomination, election, or inaugural process/festivities.

He looks stoned.  Don't you think he looks stoned?
 
2013-05-20 02:21:30 PM  

Corvus: I love how republicans have to add "Gate" to their made up "scandals" for democrats so you don't actually look at the details and just go "Look it has 'gate' on the end, it MUST be a scandal!" This is the same thing "Look we are comparing him to Nixon, he then MUST be guilty!!"

It's what you do in advertising you put things together to associate them even if there is no proof. It's pure propaganda 101.


I bet Hilter's nicname for Goebbels was "Stuhlgang Blüte".
 
2013-05-20 02:21:34 PM  
Obama is more like Reagan since he has no idea what's coming on in his administration.
 
2013-05-20 02:22:09 PM  
When you have official transcripts of Obama saying crazy shiat like this, then start comparing him to Nixon.   Until then STFU and GBTW.


(The Oval Office, September 13, 1971)

PRESIDENT NIXON: Billy Graham told us an astonishing thing. The IRS are badgering the shiat out of him. Some son-of-a-biatch came and gave him a three-hour grilling about how much he, you know, how much this contribution is worth. And he told it to [John] Connally. Well, Connally took the name of the guy [unclear]. But, now look, I've just got to get that name out of Connally when you get back. Now, they've gone after Billy Graham and he didn't know it. Now here's the point, Bob: please get me the names of the Jews, you know, the big Jewish contributors of the Democrats.

HALDEMAN: Mm-hmm.

PRESIDENT NIXON: And remember [unclear] [John] Ehrlichman, I guess, or somebody.

HALDEMAN: [Unclear.]

PRESIDENT NIXON: All right. Could we please investigate some of the cawksuckers? That's all. Now look at here. Here our IRS is going after Billy Graham tooth and nail. Are they going after Eugene Carson Blake?


(The Oval Office: January, 1, 1973)

PRESIDENT NIXON: What about (Edward) Bennett Williams? That's one of the (IRS) files that should be pulled.

COLSON: Should be.

PRESIDENT NIXON: That's my point.

(The Oval Office: March 30, 1973)

PRESIDENT NIXON: Is his income tax being checked yet, or have we got our man (new IRS head, Donald Alexander) in yet?

HALDEMAN: We nominated him, but he isn't confirmed. He isn't there.

PRESIDENT NIXON: Well, you know damn well he (Weicker) didn't report this income, so we'll just say that.

HALDEMAN: Oh, he'll get around that. He'll just say it was a campaign contribution.

PRESIDENT NIXON: Oh, I know. I know. But if he didn't report itas a campaign contribution, he's broken the law.
 
2013-05-20 02:22:57 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Obama is more like Reagan since he has no idea what's coming on in his administration.


So other presidents are very aware of the low level vetting techniques used by IRS agents for non-profits you believe?
 
2013-05-20 02:23:08 PM  
Of course.  Who can forget Obama's endless rants against the Jew York Times?
 
2013-05-20 02:23:26 PM  

Brian_of_Nazareth: For those who can't be bothered to click (and I wish I was one of you), I stopped reading when the article mentioned that there's no evidence that Obama or anyone under his authority did anything wrong, but absence of evidence for illicit activity isn't the only standard.  I can't quote, because I can't imagine going back to that article, let alone reading enough of it to find the actual quote.  Your mileage may vary, but if you're at all sensitive to insanity, you might want to pass on this one.

Cheers.


Many thanks.

/laughed so hard at that précis that tears rolled out of my eyes
 
2013-05-20 02:24:02 PM  
Still a good week to stop sniffing glue.

carpetbaggery.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-20 02:25:48 PM  

Rapmaster2000: This is Obama's Teapot Dome.


I thought it was Obama's Conway Cabal.
 
2013-05-20 02:27:55 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Obama is more like Reagan since he has no idea what's coming on in his administration.


With regards to the IRS and DOJ, he shouldn't know. The IRS and DOJ are deliberately set up to be independent of the President.

That's a good thing.
 
2013-05-20 02:28:00 PM  
I think Democrats should use this new precedent surround the absence of evidence to accuse Republicans of every goddamn thing they can think of.

Look, just because John Boehner says he doesn't have sex with young boys brought over from Thailand, that doesn't mean that he is not having sex with young boys brought over from Thailand.

The man drinks so much, you can't trust anything he says.
 
2013-05-20 02:28:10 PM  
Are these farktards figuring that we've forgotten all the horrible things Nixon did?

Nixon knew what he had done, and when he was told that there were enough votes in Congress to impeach him, he pulled the ripcord. There was no way he'd have survived a trial in the Senate, so he took the coward's exit.

Nixon walked away from the only job he had ever really wanted because he was unwilling to defend himself at an impeachment. Then he claimed that he had been innocent the whole time.

Assholes.
 
2013-05-20 02:30:30 PM  
I like how he claims that Nixon and Obama are alike because they both thought the opposing party was out to get them. Of course Obama doesn't think the opposing party is out to get him. He knows it, because they openly admitted it.
 
2013-05-20 02:30:40 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: An RCP link greenlighted with zero comments? I'm sure this one's a real winner, Admins.


Looks like Freeper-Admin is on duty today.
 
2013-05-20 02:31:36 PM  

Corvus: So then by the associative property Nixon was Hitler?


No.  Voldemort.  Where did you learn math?
 
2013-05-20 02:32:56 PM  
I think liberals who use the term teabaggers are right there with conservatives who say things like "Barack HUSSEIN Obama".
 
2013-05-20 02:33:06 PM  

topcon: My father, Lou Cannon, covered the White House with distinction for the Washington Post

That's Lou S. Cannon, I presume.


So how did Watergate end up being Woodward and Bernstein should be the obvious question.
 
2013-05-20 02:33:14 PM  
Author: "Obama may have done things like Nixon, but I have no idea so I'm going to write it anyway"
Fark Mods: "Brilliant!" <insta green>
 
2013-05-20 02:33:25 PM  
what's with all the freeptastic insta-greens today?
 
2013-05-20 02:33:52 PM  
I tried. I really, really tried to slog thru all that revisionist bull.

I knew where it was going by how he tried to draw you past the fold like he may agree that these comparisons are bogus but, in the end I knew he could find away to connect the two.

But, I had to stop before I threw a random object when he said (Nixon) "had a penchant for classifying political adversaries -- and journalists -- as "enemies," and tried to control his image so fiercely that, ultimately, zealous aides committed illegal acts to further his re-election."

Was this the first use of "zealous aides" as an excuse?

Is that why now it's always blamed on "over zealous aids"?

Re-writing history is all well and good but please, to act like Nixon was just an unlucky bastard whose aids put him in a difficult spot cause they tried too hard to get him re-elected is laughable and should be presented as evidence that the author should be held for a 72 psych-evaluation.
 
2013-05-20 02:34:27 PM  

bopis: I think liberals who use the term teabaggers are right there with conservatives who say things like "Barack HUSSEIN Obama".


Personally, I prefer the term 'Tea Tarder'.  It's far more aptly descriptive of them.
 
2013-05-20 02:34:35 PM  

aaronx: Are these farktards figuring that we've forgotten all the horrible things Nixon did?

Nixon knew what he had done, and when he was told that there were enough votes in Congress to impeach him, he pulled the ripcord. There was no way he'd have survived a trial in the Senate, so he took the coward's exit.

Nixon walked away from the only job he had ever really wanted because he was unwilling to defend himself at an impeachment. Then he claimed that he had been innocent the whole time.

Assholes.


Many liberals at the time swallowed the whole thing as "for the best."  It's for the best that the US government isn't dragged through the mud.  It's for the best that we just sweep it all away and carry on as if it never happened.  It's for the best that Ford issued a blanket pardon for the guy who put him into office.  Oddly similar to how rape was once considered something that should be covered up and forgotten.
 
2013-05-20 02:34:56 PM  

Jackson Herring: No evidence has been unearthed connecting Obama, or anyone under his direction, to illicit activities. But the absence of criminality isn't the only test here. Nixon's "enemies," at least in his mind, also included vast swaths of the Fourth Estate. That apparently is how the current president operates, too.


Wow what a piece of shiat


We have a party that has spent the last 50 years claiming traditional media outlets were partisan operations that behaved in a way primarily to benefit their opponents and harm them. They've accused the media of being in this president's pocket. Now they want to claim he's overly combative with the media?

My favorite part was the accusation Obama is thin-skinned and enraged by the most minor of slights. This is a president who responds to a quarter of Americans accuse of having no legitimate claim to office with jokes about his birth certificate. I thought the complaint was Obama was too distant and acted like he was above it all?
 
2013-05-20 02:35:17 PM  

bopis: I think liberals who use the term teabaggers are right there with conservatives who say things like "Barack HUSSEIN Obama".


Ctfl-f "teabaggers"

Um, you are the only one who typed that.  Even the author of the article didn't type that word.  Why would you come in here and announce such a thing?
 
2013-05-20 02:35:27 PM  

bopis: I think liberals who use the term teabaggers are right there with conservatives who say things like "Barack HUSSEIN Obama".


That is what they called themselves, so your butthurt isn't getting much traction

Teabaggingforjesus.jpeg
 
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