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(Washington Post)   "A president actually in command of his administration would bring in a new chief of staff and new communications personnel, and figure out how to at least appear interested in getting to the bottom of these issues"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 42
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2013-05-20 01:58:36 PM
9 votes:
Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."
2013-05-20 02:30:17 PM
4 votes:
Oh, it's Jennifer Rubin. Thanks for saving me the click.

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2013-05-20 02:20:31 PM
4 votes:
"Obama just fired his chief of staff, maybe for having such a big role in these scandals?  It is basically an admission of guilt!  An innocent man doesn't fire their chief of staff."
2013-05-20 04:15:33 PM
3 votes:
Really? Bush takes 09/11/01 as an excuse to invade a country the hi-jackers didn't come from on the premise of WOMADs that didn't exist, and then on to Afghanistan, on the belief that the boogie man is there, while shipping billions of dollars over on pallets that promptly disappeared, and Bin Laden get's Whacked on Obama's watch, and suddenly it's a scandal that a bunch of brown people over there actually whacked a couple of people at am embassy?
Really?
While the  Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death gets ZERO press?


Anyone from the fourth estate that opens their mouth at this point is on the take. There is no objectivity in any news.
2013-05-20 03:47:06 PM
2 votes:
Get to the bottom of it?

Get to the bottom of the IRS discovering that right wingers are tax cheats? --sorry, no explanation or apology neccesary

Get to the bottom of the fact that the GOP nontroversy over benghazi turns out to be hinged upon them wanting the president to be able to shrug aside the constraints of spacetime and beam people out.

Sorry, you got nothin.
2013-05-20 03:27:49 PM
2 votes:
Funny, I'd say the same about an administration that mobilized hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and occupied two countries based on flawed information.
2013-05-20 02:46:12 PM
2 votes:
Oh, look!  A Jennifer Rubin opinion piece.  Just what I needed!

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2013-05-20 02:37:32 PM
2 votes:
It's always the same 10 conservative sh*tbags that get greenlit on some big media site somewhere. So tired of their boring diatribe.

IT'S OVER. OBAMA WON. YOU LOST. STOP BEING TOTAL DICKS AND START FIXING AMERICA.
2013-05-20 02:07:57 PM
2 votes:
I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.
2013-05-20 02:06:58 PM
2 votes:
This is a cozy thing to think, if you ignore him already talking about "getting to the bottom of these issues" because you don't think it's sincere enough, totally, yeah, that's justifiable and not a product of your own preconceptions.
2013-05-21 01:45:16 AM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.


No, I just find your "I'm just asking questions" concern-troll shtick to be old and tired.  It was never a "thing" apart from conspiracy nuts and playing to appease that crowd will never, ever happen.
2013-05-21 01:24:14 AM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.

No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.

l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.

I think it also shows how his communications team has done a piss-poor job of handling "scandalettes" and nipping nonsense in the bud before they take root. Thanks for reminding me about their track record.


The fact that you think releasing ANY of that would dissuade the Birthers shows how naive you are.
2013-05-20 11:56:17 PM
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.

We get it, she's a woman.

LOL... look at the guy still employing the Karl Rove strategy! LMAO!


Hmmm. I thought the guy still employing the Karl Rove strategy was Karl Rove.
2013-05-20 10:48:29 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."


And we're done here.

None of this is a scandal. NONE OF IT. I'm sick of this shiat. Time to carve out Texas and send all the Republicans, Tea Partiers, and their respective media mouthpieces to Texas so they can all live happily ever after. Farkers,
2013-05-20 10:05:21 PM
1 votes:
Uhhhhh - NO. Subby, that's the opposite of what he should do. The more he embraces manufactured, forced controversies the more he'll be connected to them regardless of whether it's really appropriate or not. Putting on some BS dog and pony show projecting forced caring about one controversy after another that the GOP tries to Millhouse in to the zeitgeist would only lend those garbage controversies undeserved legitimacy.

The best thing he can do is be as aloof, detached and professional about them. Keep them at arm's length at all times and let them stink in some other corner of the room.
2013-05-20 09:41:04 PM
1 votes:
I'm pretty sure Obama could be caught on film committing first-degree murder and the fools in these threads would still proudly stand behind him. It's eerily so much like a cult. You fools don't even realize how absurd you are at this point. I beg you to utilize even a hint of intellectual honesty and critical thinking with this president. Stop rationalizing everything and defending his ineptitude. We all deserve better than this. The First amendment is not a uniquely conservative or liberal ideal, and you cheerlead as it is blatantly violated. Please stop rationalizing his actions, you're hurting us all.
Or just sit back and enjoy another glass...
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2013-05-20 08:46:24 PM
1 votes:

LasersHurt: This is a cozy thing to think, if you ignore him already talking about "getting to the bottom of these issues" because you don't think it's sincere enough, totally, yeah, that's justifiable and not a product of your own preconceptions.


Remember how the NRA opposed him because they felt his expansion of gun rights didn't really count?

And when the same NRA supported Romney, because they felt his limiting of gun rights didn't really count?

Or the log cabin republicans supporting Romney because they felt he wouldn't really limit their rights the way they said he would?

Etc.

etc.

etc.
2013-05-20 07:37:43 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.


No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.
2013-05-20 06:47:35 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Lionel Mandrake: ftfy

Fixed what exactly? No one was disputing the numbers, and the broken link you provided doesn't answer what Atillathepun meant with his comment.

But thanks for the link.

/... you are aware that it shows a 20 point drop since inaguration, right? and that it stops before the recent round of scandal-ettes?


How exactly is a poll from 17-19. May stopping before the recent round of "scandals"?

Also it was always going to drop after the inauguration.
2013-05-20 06:26:21 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: It's kind of funny to think that becasue the GOP has been screaming WEREwolf! so long and so often, that when an actual rabid dog shows up, most people don't really care anymore.


There's a famous fable with that exact moral. You should maybe mail your local Republicans a copy; seems like they could learn a thing or two. (There's also one in there about long-necked jugs vs bowls, but that one's a mite esoteric.)

A Dark Evil Omen: Most people just aren't particularly jacked in to this stuff.


They were when "FASTNFURIOUS!!" and "BENGHAZI!!" first hit the scene. Now, every scandal just looks like the "St Anger" of attention-grabbing headlines. It's like "Come on, dude - are you even TRYING anymore?"
2013-05-20 06:19:09 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?

I think we're finally seeing "scandal overload".

Unless and until there are charges filed (and, I'd argue, convictions; unless they arrest 100 people or some other attention-grabbing thing), people are just too used to the GOP spinning horsehiat into headlines for innuendo and allegation to be effective.

That and they keep hearing the GOP say and do stupid things.

// like not give up on abortion and teh ghey - but surely the 174,116,543,761,043,860,587,602,824,873,097,039,739,080,985,765,806th time's GOTTA be the charm, right?


Most people just aren't particularly jacked in to this stuff. Of the ones that are, a fraction are the ones that inject Fox and AM radio between their toes and they've been at maximum volume for years. A similar percentage are highly dissatisfied with Obama but get no love and have no common ground with the 101st Chairborne Derp Brigade because the things they're mad about (militarism and aggressive right-wing capitalism) are the parts the derpers are either super-happy with or would be super-happy with if they acknowledged at all. Everyone else is just used to the whining being at maximum and at this point are waiting for the Republicans to do something, anything, to substantiate their nonsense. When they won't even pursue obviously spurious impeachment proceedings - which they have an established history of doing - let alone addressing the "issues" that could be fixed with legislation by actually legislating no one outside the echo chamber is going to take them particularly seriously.
2013-05-20 06:18:39 PM
1 votes:
I'd kind of like for Obama to take a page from A Few Good Men (and Republicans, in a way).

Q: Did you investigate phone records of AP reporters?
A: You mean "Did I lawfully and legally subpoena records pertaining to a security breach that puts American lives in danger"?
   You're goddamn right I did!

Seriously, Bush pulled that "time of war/national security" crap all the time, and for far more serious and less legal actions than the recent events.
2013-05-20 06:13:11 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?


I think we're finally seeing "scandal overload".

Unless and until there are charges filed (and, I'd argue, convictions; unless they arrest 100 people or some other attention-grabbing thing), people are just too used to the GOP spinning horsehiat into headlines for innuendo and allegation to be effective.

That and they keep hearing the GOP say and do stupid things.

// like not give up on abortion and teh ghey - but surely the 174,116,543,761,043,860,587,602,824,873,097,039,739,080,985,765,806th time's GOTTA be the charm, right?
2013-05-20 06:11:46 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: InmanRoshi: Given that 43% of the country are going to hate him simply because he's Blacky McBlackerson playing for Team Donkey, yeah. They're pretty good.

I do not think that 43% of Americans are bigots. Your post makes you sound like Romney.

Nor do I think that Obama's jopb approval numbers are based primarily on these scandals as stated in my post.


It's amazing that you're so fair-minded, but your opinions always end up on the right in the end.
2013-05-20 06:10:37 PM
1 votes:
The last president who tried to control his administration was Kennedy, and look where it got him. The only way to control the federal government would be for the president to invoke the War Powers Act and start bombing the shiat out of DC. Then, put the survivors on the "kill on sight" list and send the SEALs after them.
2013-05-20 06:08:07 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good?


Given that 43% of the country are going to hate him simply because he's Blacky McBlackerson playing for Team Donkey, yeah.  They're pretty good.

And when you break down the numbers, it pretty clearly show that that only people who think he's to blame for any of these "scandals" are those 43%.
2013-05-20 06:07:53 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?


http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.as px

Instead of asking questions you could look this shiat up so you wouldn't look stupid.
2013-05-20 06:01:41 PM
1 votes:
If you're going to green that mindless dork, have the balls to put her name in the headline so I can be prepared for the gallons of liquid sh*t that will get poured on me when I click. I'd really appreciate it.
2013-05-20 05:49:05 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento

I have not suggested that Obama is somehow unique in this.  He's not. But he's supposed to be BETTER. And he's not.

I know you know that just becasue other people ALSO sucked at this, doesn't change whether or not his team sucks.

Again, even if he is completely blameless in each of these scandals, the rookie mistakes that his messaging team keep making are doing damage. These are self-inflicted wounds, easily avoided. He DOES need to replace the people in his administration that keep putting out disprovable explinations.


I guess that means a lot, especially coming from someone who has been so fair-minded about Obama for a long time.
2013-05-20 05:37:15 PM
1 votes:

Corvus: BojanglesPaladin: They keep shooting themsleves in the foot by going too far and getting busted on the details they have distorted. Obama needs to clean house and see if he can borrow some of the Clinton crew.

Right the group you Republicans labeled the most scandalest administration ever until he left then you went "aww we were just kidding with the impeachments and the 24/7 investigations" which you will do when Obama leaves too.


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I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento, except all they have written on their hands is LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS.
2013-05-20 05:34:34 PM
1 votes:

BojanglesPaladin: They keep shooting themsleves in the foot by going too far and getting busted on the details they have distorted. Obama needs to clean house and see if he can borrow some of the Clinton crew.


Right the group you Republicans labeled the most scandalest administration ever until he left then you went "aww we were just kidding with the impeachments and the 24/7 investigations" which you will do when Obama leaves too.
2013-05-20 05:21:16 PM
1 votes:

Katolu: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

You're just sad at this point. Just yell "Derp, get off my lawn", at this point.


He adds absolutely nothing to any of the thread topics. He is usually one of the first ten posters in the thread (and probably submitter), shiats out stupidity or lies and runs away. He is the most clear-cut definition of a troll, but since he gets replies every time, he is given a pass from being removed.

Probably gets free TF for his actions too.
2013-05-20 05:03:11 PM
1 votes:
Here's an idea:

If a bunch of screaming heads are trying to convince the nation that the president is embroiled in Nixonian scandals when it's verifiable that none of it is true, we would want a president who is mature, intelligent and unflappable enough that he (or she) would ignore it and tend to the actual business of running the country.
2013-05-20 04:53:24 PM
1 votes:

Jackson Herring: seriously what the fark is going on today? an honest to goodness jennifer farking rubin greenlight?


Admins was cut off by a car with an Obama bumper sticker today and they are very bitter.

Ok, they didnt actually see the bumper sticker on the car. And to be honest, there was nothing indicating that it was an Obama supporter in that car, but their gut tells them it was. And actually, the admins was probably not cut off by this car but that car did change lanes without signalling. And upon retrospect, they did signal and were actually about 20 car lengths behind the admins, but tve fact remains that the admins was most likely cut off in front by an Obama supporter.

And upon further thought, the admins was really at home at the time when this happened.
2013-05-20 04:22:35 PM
1 votes:
All I got from that article is "Why isn't he taking our screeching more seriously?"
2013-05-20 04:05:08 PM
1 votes:

coeyagi: Jennifer Rubin - pretty much a Breitbart mole inside the "establishment".  Seriously, have O'Queefe and her traded notes yet? Has she deep throated him in the basement of a dark parking garage?


and Jonathan Karl is another right wing mole who is ABC news' chief political reporter. I'm sure it's just a coincidence he was the one who bit on the fake Benghazi email leak
2013-05-20 03:48:39 PM
1 votes:

neongoats: Get to the bottom of it?

Get to the bottom of the IRS discovering that right wingers are tax cheats? --sorry, no explanation or apology neccesary

Get to the bottom of the fact that the GOP nontroversy over benghazi turns out to be hinged upon them wanting the president to be able to shrug aside the constraints of spacetime and beam people out.

Sorry, you got nothin.


Ooh, or maybe to 'get to the bottom' of the DoJ subpoenaing phone records...with a warrant, and thus COMPLETELY LEGALLY.

Onoes! Teh scandalz!
2013-05-20 03:43:38 PM
1 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


Show me the exact things that Obama personally did that is illegal. All I see are stupid allegations that are totally baseless.
2013-05-20 03:25:54 PM
1 votes:
Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.
2013-05-20 02:47:59 PM
1 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


1/10

You've been throwing out some good bait lately, but that really sucked.
2013-05-20 02:11:25 PM
1 votes:
The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.
2013-05-20 02:10:48 PM
1 votes:
Jennifer Rubin giving Obama advice.

Not THAT is priceless.
 
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