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2013-05-20 01:58:36 PM  
Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."
 
2013-05-20 02:06:58 PM  
This is a cozy thing to think, if you ignore him already talking about "getting to the bottom of these issues" because you don't think it's sincere enough, totally, yeah, that's justifiable and not a product of your own preconceptions.
 
2013-05-20 02:07:57 PM  
I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.
 
2013-05-20 02:10:48 PM  
Jennifer Rubin giving Obama advice.

Not THAT is priceless.
 
2013-05-20 02:11:25 PM  
The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.
 
2013-05-20 02:20:07 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


As a famous republican said, it's not illegal when the president does it.
 
2013-05-20 02:20:31 PM  
"Obama just fired his chief of staff, maybe for having such a big role in these scandals?  It is basically an admission of guilt!  An innocent man doesn't fire their chief of staff."
 
2013-05-20 02:24:34 PM  
It would have been a scandal if Obama had known any details about the IG investigation of the IRS's tea party targeting. Link
 
2013-05-20 02:27:09 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Jennifer Rubin giving Obama advice.

Not THAT is priceless.



She's just concerned.
 
2013-05-20 02:27:09 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


In the other thread you were saying something about innocent until proven guilty.  Maybe someone's been posting for you when you wander off.
 
2013-05-20 02:30:17 PM  
Oh, it's Jennifer Rubin. Thanks for saving me the click.

d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net
 
2013-05-20 02:37:32 PM  
It's always the same 10 conservative sh*tbags that get greenlit on some big media site somewhere. So tired of their boring diatribe.

IT'S OVER. OBAMA WON. YOU LOST. STOP BEING TOTAL DICKS AND START FIXING AMERICA.
 
2013-05-20 02:46:12 PM  
Oh, look!  A Jennifer Rubin opinion piece.  Just what I needed!

blog.mixtur.com
 
2013-05-20 02:47:59 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


1/10

You've been throwing out some good bait lately, but that really sucked.
 
2013-05-20 02:51:41 PM  
He needs to do exactly like Nixon did so that we don't think he did what Nixon did.
 
2013-05-20 03:02:42 PM  
If Sen. McCain was actually in command of his position, he'd bring in a new chief of staff and perhaps new communication personnel, to at least appear as if he was investigating the chilling accusations that he raped and killed a girl in 1990.
 
2013-05-20 03:14:03 PM  

DamnYankees: I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.


Thank you for saving us all the horror and pain. You truly deserve a medal for braving that.
 
2013-05-20 03:25:54 PM  
Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.
 
2013-05-20 03:27:49 PM  
Funny, I'd say the same about an administration that mobilized hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and occupied two countries based on flawed information.
 
2013-05-20 03:28:52 PM  
Is it possible to get to the "bottom" of an issue?
 
2013-05-20 03:30:39 PM  

DamnYankees: I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.


It's okay, you didn't know. It's like taking that tranny hooker back to your hotel room. Sure, nothing will fully take away the shame, but at least in your heart you know you didn't go into it knowingly.
 
2013-05-20 03:31:23 PM  
By Jennifer Rubin

LOL No need to read any further.
 
2013-05-20 03:32:39 PM  
Also, what potential law has the IRS broken? Even at its worst it seems like managerial abuse of power which deserves all around firing, but what about abusing their discretionary power to investigate would have been illegal? Just curious.
 
2013-05-20 03:39:37 PM  
You burned through all your credibility with the birth certificate thing.
 
2013-05-20 03:41:10 PM  
After the Bay of Pigs invasion, JFK didn't speak to the press about in for about a week. I miss that news cycle.
 
2013-05-20 03:41:26 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

In the other thread you were saying something about innocent until proven guilty.  Maybe someone's been posting for you when you wander off.


He'll say anything for a response.
 
2013-05-20 03:41:51 PM  
I'm currently launching a research project to determine how to wipe my ass with those bits
 
2013-05-20 03:42:42 PM  

vernonFL: By Jennifer Rubin

LOL No need to read any further.


Well, advice from Rubin is sort of useful,

You know, if yer bright enough to do the exact opposite.

Kinda like going into a casino and watching as some loser goes through their money rapidly, ya wait until they put their last chip on red and and then ya bet everything you have on black.
 
2013-05-20 03:43:38 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


Show me the exact things that Obama personally did that is illegal. All I see are stupid allegations that are totally baseless.
 
2013-05-20 03:44:06 PM  

nmrsnr: DamnYankees: I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.

It's okay, you didn't know. It's like taking that tranny hooker back to your hotel room. Sure, nothing will fully take away the shame, but at least in your heart you know you didn't go into it knowingly.


The real question is do you let the tranny blow you anyway, because there's no way you're getting the $30 back from shim?
 
2013-05-20 03:46:17 PM  
Is BenIRSAPabrellaghazi a scandal yet?
 
2013-05-20 03:46:48 PM  

catusr: Is it possible to get to the "bottom" of an issue?


well, the Right has certainly jumped the gun by starting out with baseless accusations first, left themselves nowhere to go from there but finger pointing and hoping this one sticks.

I would go so far as to say no, these issues have no bottom (every one).  I was just wondering to myself, there's a lot of talk being slung out there & there's not a story in any of it.  It's kinda silly, I WANT a story, not some more GOP ear fodder.

I guess it's just slow news days (real news i mean).
 
2013-05-20 03:47:06 PM  
Jennifer Rubin - pretty much a Breitbart mole inside the "establishment".  Seriously, have O'Queefe and her traded notes yet? Has she deep throated him in the basement of a dark parking garage?
 
2013-05-20 03:47:06 PM  
Get to the bottom of it?

Get to the bottom of the IRS discovering that right wingers are tax cheats? --sorry, no explanation or apology neccesary

Get to the bottom of the fact that the GOP nontroversy over benghazi turns out to be hinged upon them wanting the president to be able to shrug aside the constraints of spacetime and beam people out.

Sorry, you got nothin.
 
2013-05-20 03:48:39 PM  

neongoats: Get to the bottom of it?

Get to the bottom of the IRS discovering that right wingers are tax cheats? --sorry, no explanation or apology neccesary

Get to the bottom of the fact that the GOP nontroversy over benghazi turns out to be hinged upon them wanting the president to be able to shrug aside the constraints of spacetime and beam people out.

Sorry, you got nothin.


Ooh, or maybe to 'get to the bottom' of the DoJ subpoenaing phone records...with a warrant, and thus COMPLETELY LEGALLY.

Onoes! Teh scandalz!
 
2013-05-20 03:49:51 PM  
So much for Rand's meritocracy... LOL

When will people like Jennifer Rubin a job?

The point here isn't just that Rubin and so many were very, very wrong-in her case, knowingly, arrogantly so-it's that in a world where press institutions claim the high ground in the new media landscape, boasting of ethics and accountability, they keep people on their payroll who admit intentionally misleading readers.

When will these media institutions fire the liars? Or is keeping liars on board imperative to some weird mission of balancing out the truth-tellers? Someone should pay a price: Rubin. If she doesn't, the Washington Post will continues to bleed credibility. It's their choice
 
2013-05-20 03:50:02 PM  

clintster: Is BenIRSAPabrellaghazi a scandal yet?


It'll reach critical scandal mass when Obama uses a binder clip to collate his talking points about it.
 
2013-05-20 03:50:57 PM  
s10.postimg.org
 
2013-05-20 03:52:45 PM  

DamnYankees: I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.


The one time I don't hit up the comments first and BLAMM-O.  Rubin all in my face. Jesus Keeee-rist.
 
2013-05-20 03:54:19 PM  
Everyone seems to be an expert on being the president now-a-days.  I don't go down to Jen's office and knock the dick out of her mouth!
 
2013-05-20 03:54:28 PM  
Jennifer Rubin had to get DP'd by Bill Kristol and Roger Alies to get here job.
 
2013-05-20 03:58:27 PM  

JerseyTim: Oh, it's Jennifer Rubin. Thanks for saving me the click.


Holy fark.  I can't stop laughing.
 
2013-05-20 03:59:11 PM  
Why won't Obama address the serious allegations that something of some sort might have been done by somebody?

All the republicans want to do is have an investigation to get to the bottom of it. Why won't Obama cooperate with the Republican investigation, first by firing his entire staff, and them by resigning?
 
2013-05-20 03:59:27 PM  
Maybe, in an odd way, we should thank her for what she did to Romney's presidential campaign.

Romney Tortures Jennifer Rubin

On the one hand, Rubin's deepest roots lie in ultra-hawkish pro-Israel neoconservatism. On the other hand, Rubin has appointed herself unofficial spokesperson for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, using her blog to record a daily procession of Romney's wise choices and brilliant triumphs, along with the pathetic failures of all who challenge him.
 
2013-05-20 04:02:47 PM  
The RNC needs to hire better actors for its political theater.
 
2013-05-20 04:03:35 PM  

neversubmit: Maybe, in an odd way, we should thank her for what she did to Romney's presidential campaign.

Romney Tortures Jennifer Rubin

On the one hand, Rubin's deepest roots lie in ultra-hawkish pro-Israel neoconservatism. On the other hand, Rubin has appointed herself unofficial spokesperson for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, using her blog to record a daily procession of Romney's wise choices and brilliant triumphs, along with the pathetic failures of all who challenge him.


World's shortest blog
 
2013-05-20 04:03:50 PM  

BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.


But could she talk you out of having sex with her?

// that'll really bake your noodle - is she too dumb to make a slam-dunk argument (against slam-dunking her), or too desperate to try?
 
2013-05-20 04:04:17 PM  
Yes.  Just what you need, a blood bath.  I'm sure the GOP wouldn't use that to kick up a shiatstorm of innuendo and BS while you have just robbed yourself of the people most capable of helping you manage your PR and opening yourself up for confirmation hearings when someone actually has to step in and do the job the outgoing guy was doing perfectly well ... until you canned him for no reason.  Good idea, twatwaddle.
 
2013-05-20 04:04:47 PM  
So her suggestion is not that he investigate the allegations or make changes at Treasury, Justice, etc.  It's that he change out his communications people.  That right there is all the evidence you need that these "scandals" are Washington theater crap and not real.
 
2013-05-20 04:05:08 PM  

coeyagi: Jennifer Rubin - pretty much a Breitbart mole inside the "establishment".  Seriously, have O'Queefe and her traded notes yet? Has she deep throated him in the basement of a dark parking garage?


and Jonathan Karl is another right wing mole who is ABC news' chief political reporter. I'm sure it's just a coincidence he was the one who bit on the fake Benghazi email leak
 
2013-05-20 04:06:41 PM  
larry5154.files.wordpress.com

He picked the wrong term to quit smoking Kools.
 
2013-05-20 04:06:44 PM  
There sure are a lot of pundits that think they should be President...
 
2013-05-20 04:08:04 PM  
"If Obama was really canny, he'd pull off his own Saturday Night Massacre."
 
2013-05-20 04:09:00 PM  

YoungSwedishBlonde: neversubmit: Maybe, in an odd way, we should thank her for what she did to Romney's presidential campaign.

Romney Tortures Jennifer Rubin

On the one hand, Rubin's deepest roots lie in ultra-hawkish pro-Israel neoconservatism. On the other hand, Rubin has appointed herself unofficial spokesperson for Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, using her blog to record a daily procession of Romney's wise choices and brilliant triumphs, along with the pathetic failures of all who challenge him.

World's shortest blog


Size queen hay? :-)
 
2013-05-20 04:09:40 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Funny, I'd say the same about an administration that mobilized hundreds of thousands of American soldiers and occupied two countries based on flawed information

willful misinformation.

FIFY
 
2013-05-20 04:13:03 PM  
There are 43 people who ever lived (and four living right now) who have personal experience of the trials Barack Obama is going through.  Anyone else weighing in, including myself, has only unexperienced suggestions of what they would do if they were there.
 
2013-05-20 04:13:58 PM  
Never mind getting to the root of a problem.  Just appear like you're concerned and everything will be OK!
 
2013-05-20 04:14:09 PM  
I'll describe something the president isn't doing, make up reasons why that something should be a good idea to do, and then criticize the president for not doing those things.
 
2013-05-20 04:14:20 PM  

JerseyTim: Oh, it's Jennifer Rubin. Thanks for saving me the click.

[d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net image 360x640]


Holy shiat that cannot be real.
 
2013-05-20 04:14:43 PM  
I'm not gonna say it's because he's black, but since no other president in the history of the country has had to deal with this much idiocy - not even the white president who WAS born in a different country - on a day-to-day basis...

We get it, he's black.
 
2013-05-20 04:15:33 PM  
Really? Bush takes 09/11/01 as an excuse to invade a country the hi-jackers didn't come from on the premise of WOMADs that didn't exist, and then on to Afghanistan, on the belief that the boogie man is there, while shipping billions of dollars over on pallets that promptly disappeared, and Bin Laden get's Whacked on Obama's watch, and suddenly it's a scandal that a bunch of brown people over there actually whacked a couple of people at am embassy?
Really?
While the  Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death gets ZERO press?


Anyone from the fourth estate that opens their mouth at this point is on the take. There is no objectivity in any news.
 
2013-05-20 04:18:24 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


It's almost like you just think of the most derptastic thing possible and then post it.

And by 'almost', I mean 'exactly'.
 
2013-05-20 04:22:26 PM  
The fact that Obama hasn't produced the document saying "I've officially ordered the Hitlering of everything, forever" pretty much is either an admission that the document exists and he's hiding it, or he isn't interested in proving that it doesn't exist.
 
2013-05-20 04:22:35 PM  
All I got from that article is "Why isn't he taking our screeching more seriously?"
 
2013-05-20 04:23:34 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: I'm not gonna say it's because he's black, but since no other president in the history of the country has had to deal with this much idiocy - not even the white president who WAS born in a different country - on a day-to-day basis...

We get it, he's black.


I think it's primarily because the Republican party has seriously gone off the rails of sanity, and Obama is just the unfortunate one to be stuck dealing with them.

But some of it has to do with him being a different color than them, yes.
 
2013-05-20 04:24:59 PM  
Press sec. Carney addressing is it a scandal or not.

Just when is it a scandal?

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4452354
 
2013-05-20 04:28:25 PM  
"A WHITE president actually in command of his administration would bring in a new chief of staff and new communications personnel, and figure out how to at least appear interested in getting to the bottom of these issues"
 
2013-05-20 04:28:59 PM  
Did he start another war or crash the economy? no? Is he still sexy? yes?  Then I don't care what he does.
 
2013-05-20 04:30:49 PM  
Obongo's damage control is so bad it actually caused him to go up in ratings this week.  What a moran.
 
2013-05-20 04:33:20 PM  
Right because having an FBI investigation is completely ignoring the matter.
 
2013-05-20 04:35:13 PM  
Keep on with the screeching of 'scandal scandal', GOP...It'll start to work any day now.
 
2013-05-20 04:36:18 PM  
You don't fark with the purse strings of the government.

The GOP is royally farking themselves by going after the IRS.
 
2013-05-20 04:36:57 PM  
seriously what the fark is going on today? an honest to goodness jennifer farking rubin greenlight?
 
2013-05-20 04:37:13 PM  

sabreWulf07: JerseyTim: Oh, it's Jennifer Rubin. Thanks for saving me the click.

[d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net image 360x640]

Holy shiat that cannot be real.


Oh, it's real.
 
2013-05-20 04:45:43 PM  

coeyagi: [larry5154.files.wordpress.com image 300x390]

He picked the wrong term to quit smoking Kools.


Oh, right, right, right.  Cause Kools what deh black man smoke.
 
2013-05-20 04:51:35 PM  

plewis: Yes.  Just what you need, a blood bath.  I'm sure the GOP wouldn't use that to kick up a shiatstorm of innuendo and BS while you have just robbed yourself of the people most capable of helping you manage your PR and opening yourself up for confirmation hearings when someone actually has to step in and do the job the outgoing guy was doing perfectly well ... until you canned him for no reason.  Good idea, twatwaddle.


Yeah, it would be a pretty dumb move to fire anyone, or even let anyone resign over any of these issues seeing as the GOP have made clear they will block virtually all new appointments, regardless of whether they are crippling the administration (of course really this is exactly why they are doing it) - even though they obviously know things like Benghazi are more likely without people filling these senior positions. It would be absolutely hilarious if it ends up during an investigation into Benghazi that the reason nothing had been done about increasing the security was because the post that would normally be dealing with such requests was empty due to a GOP filibuster.
 
2013-05-20 04:53:24 PM  

Jackson Herring: seriously what the fark is going on today? an honest to goodness jennifer farking rubin greenlight?


Admins was cut off by a car with an Obama bumper sticker today and they are very bitter.

Ok, they didnt actually see the bumper sticker on the car. And to be honest, there was nothing indicating that it was an Obama supporter in that car, but their gut tells them it was. And actually, the admins was probably not cut off by this car but that car did change lanes without signalling. And upon retrospect, they did signal and were actually about 20 car lengths behind the admins, but tve fact remains that the admins was most likely cut off in front by an Obama supporter.

And upon further thought, the admins was really at home at the time when this happened.
 
2013-05-20 04:53:54 PM  

IlGreven: There are 43 people who ever lived (and four living right now) who have personal experience of the trials Barack Obama is going through.  Anyone else weighing in, including myself, has only unexperienced suggestions of what they would do if they were there.


Now THAT is the sense of perspective I've been looking for in other people.

Motherfarking QFT.
 
2013-05-20 04:54:53 PM  
If he did then the right wing Derp-o-shere would be saying that "See, See!!!! HE KNOWS HE'S GUILTY" You can't satisfy this pants-shiatting-farkers.
 
2013-05-20 04:57:30 PM  

BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.


If you're too stupid to exit a burning car, Jennifer Rubin probably doesn't have time for you anyway.
 
2013-05-20 04:58:14 PM  
Can we just compare the republicans to hitler so you can Godwin the republicans to death?
 
2013-05-20 04:58:35 PM  

DamnYankees: I feel dirty for having clicked on a Jennifer Rubin link.


I clicked to find out who wrote it and what it was about, but it took long enough to load that I was able to read this Weeners.

Now I know I really don't care what the article says.

Thanks!
 
2013-05-20 04:58:56 PM  

Citrate1007: If he did then the right wing Derp-o-shere would be saying that "See, See!!!! HE KNOWS HE'S GUILTY" You can't satisfy this pants-shiatting-farkers.


Note how never seem to think of ways to actually make themselves a better alternative to democrats. Their platform is 'Democrats not perfect, vote for us.'
 
2013-05-20 05:00:50 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


See folks, this is what being a republican leads to. Smoke crack instead, it's not as bad for your brain.
 
2013-05-20 05:02:13 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


And such there as !!!!
 
2013-05-20 05:03:11 PM  
Here's an idea:

If a bunch of screaming heads are trying to convince the nation that the president is embroiled in Nixonian scandals when it's verifiable that none of it is true, we would want a president who is mature, intelligent and unflappable enough that he (or she) would ignore it and tend to the actual business of running the country.
 
2013-05-20 05:12:12 PM  

NeverDrunk23: Citrate1007: If he did then the right wing Derp-o-shere would be saying that "See, See!!!! HE KNOWS HE'S GUILTY" You can't satisfy this pants-shiatting-farkers.

Note how never seem to think of ways to actually make themselves a better alternative to democrats. Their platform is 'Democrats not perfect, vote for us.'


When your primary goal is to either fark over the poor to support corporation or to create a theocratic fascism......then it is really hard to improve your platform.
 
2013-05-20 05:13:57 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


You're just sad at this point. Just yell "Derp, get off my lawn", at this point.
 
2013-05-20 05:14:01 PM  

LordJiro: neongoats: Get to the bottom of it?

Get to the bottom of the IRS discovering that right wingers are tax cheats? --sorry, no explanation or apology neccesary

Get to the bottom of the fact that the GOP nontroversy over benghazi turns out to be hinged upon them wanting the president to be able to shrug aside the constraints of spacetime and beam people out.

Sorry, you got nothin.

Ooh, or maybe to 'get to the bottom' of the DoJ subpoenaing phone records...with a warrant, and thus COMPLETELY LEGALLY.

Onoes! Teh scandalz!


Only after they get to the bottem of fast and furious!
 
2013-05-20 05:15:18 PM  

Citrate1007: If he did then the right wing Derp-o-shere would be saying that "See, See!!!! HE KNOWS HE'S GUILTY" You can't satisfy this pants-shiatting-farkers.


In their defense, Obama is clearly black.
 
2013-05-20 05:20:19 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


what are the specific charges?
 
2013-05-20 05:20:55 PM  
So when we hit the 1004th identical stupid thread will every post be "moss-covered three-handled family gredunza"?
 
2013-05-20 05:21:16 PM  

Katolu: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

You're just sad at this point. Just yell "Derp, get off my lawn", at this point.


He adds absolutely nothing to any of the thread topics. He is usually one of the first ten posters in the thread (and probably submitter), shiats out stupidity or lies and runs away. He is the most clear-cut definition of a troll, but since he gets replies every time, he is given a pass from being removed.

Probably gets free TF for his actions too.
 
2013-05-20 05:23:51 PM  

Kaeishiwaza: Here's an idea:

If a bunch of screaming heads are trying to convince the nation that the president is embroiled in Nixonian scandals when it's verifiable that none of it is true, we would want a president who is mature, intelligent and unflappable enough that he (or she) would ignore it and tend to the actual business of running the country.


No, dammit!  I don't want Bill Clinton trying to focus on getting bin Laden!  I want him explaining who blew him and when and how!!!!111!!!!

And the taxpayers must pay for me to hear about the beeeeeeeeeeejer!
 
2013-05-20 05:24:06 PM  

NeverDrunk23: Katolu: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

You're just sad at this point. Just yell "Derp, get off my lawn", at this point.

He adds absolutely nothing to any of the thread topics. He is usually one of the first ten posters in the thread (and probably submitter), shiats out stupidity or lies and runs away. He is the most clear-cut definition of a troll, but since he gets replies every time, he is given a pass from being removed.

Probably gets free TF for his actions too.


He definitely wins the biggest loser on Fark award.
 
2013-05-20 05:24:08 PM  

unlikely: Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."


Pretty much that.  Also:  Where were the Washington Press Corps when Bush was making the argument to go to Iraq?

Oh yeah I forgot:  Fighting each other to the death to be the first in line to brownnose.
 
2013-05-20 05:24:10 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: So when we hit the 1004th identical stupid thread will every post be "moss-covered three-handled family gredunza"?


I believe at that point everyone is converting to hexidecimal.

 00:BA:MA::N1:B0:NG
 
2013-05-20 05:25:14 PM  
I agree with the headline. This administration has a real problem with confusing "misrepresentation" with "spin". It's one thing to try to put the best face on ugly news, it's something else to intentionally say things that simply are not so. They could save themselves a lot of greif, and maintain better credibility if they were more deft at massaging the narratives without resorting to distortions. I don;t think Obama is crafting this messaging, I think it is his people, and they are not doing a good job.

It's understandable that they wanted to play down the unfortunate events in Benghazi on the eve of an election because it was an organized pre-meditated attack, and the election narrative was that Obama had "kept us safe" (which, buy the way is pretty much true). And while it was probably true that this could not have been predicted, the mistake was in trying to use the video and charicterize it as a "spontaneous" event, when they knew that was demonstrably disprovable that it was a spontaneous atack.

It's understandable that they wanted to distance themselves from the IRS wrong actions, and I think they did that well initially, but they went too far in trying to make that absolute by sayting things like "we didn't know anything about it", and "it was becasue of a flood of applciations". Had they just stopped at "That was unnaceptable and when the report comes in and when we know WHICH heads need to roll, they will". Instead they first tried to say it was overzealous rogue agents at a local office, then that no one directed them to, then that no one at the White House had been informed. And each time it turned out that wasn't actually true.

And the AP thing is even worse so far.

They keep shooting themsleves in the foot by going too far and getting busted on the details they have distorted. Obama needs to clean house and see if he can borrow some of the Clinton crew. I respect his loyalty to his team, but it's becoming clear that  what worked in Chicago just isn't getting the job done in the White House.

I am far less concerned about the actuall worngdoing in each of these cases (though I am concerned) than I am with the corrosive effect that this is havihng overall. If the American people can't even trust the golden boy to shoot straight with them, then it looks like we simply can't trust ANYone in government. And that's toxic to a democracy. I may disagrewe with a lot of Obama's policies, but I don;t want to see that kind of damage done. i can't stop the Republicans for criticizing everything he does, but I really wish his people would stop saying things that later turn out to be false.
 
2013-05-20 05:25:18 PM  

ManateeGag: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

what are the specific charges?


socialisms
 
2013-05-20 05:26:39 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: I agree with the headline.


That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.
 
2013-05-20 05:27:40 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: ManateeGag: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

what are the specific charges?

socialisms


ALL OF 'EM
 
2013-05-20 05:27:54 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: BojanglesPaladin: I agree with the headline.

That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.


He's really concerned.
 
2013-05-20 05:31:21 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.


CynicalLA: He's really concerned.


We all already know that you are just going to post "Uh-UH" everytime, so why even bother?

As always, since you never have anything useful to say when I post, please feel free to avail yoursleves of the ignore button. I promise I will not be offended and I think it will save everyone time.
 
2013-05-20 05:33:08 PM  
Best comment from the article (possibly best comment ever):

"The fact that Obama hasn't produced the official document saying "I've officially ordered everything to be Hitlered, Forever" pretty much is either an admission that the document exists and he's hiding it, or he isn't interested in proving that it doesn't exist.

Therefore we must conclude that Obama has Hitlered everything, forever." -- InmanRoshi
 
2013-05-20 05:33:09 PM  

cheyanne9: Press sec. Carney addressing is it a scandal or not.

Just when is it a scandal?

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4452354


When Obama agrees that he is in fact black and is on public assistance.
 
2013-05-20 05:33:10 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: A Dark Evil Omen: That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.

CynicalLA: He's really concerned.

We all already know that you are just going to post "Uh-UH" everytime, so why even bother?

As always, since you never have anything useful to say when I post, please feel free to avail yoursleves of the ignore button. I promise I will not be offended and I think it will save everyone time.


You agreed with a concern troll article by Jennifer Rubin. Why should people take you seriously around here?
 
2013-05-20 05:34:34 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: They keep shooting themsleves in the foot by going too far and getting busted on the details they have distorted. Obama needs to clean house and see if he can borrow some of the Clinton crew.


Right the group you Republicans labeled the most scandalest administration ever until he left then you went "aww we were just kidding with the impeachments and the 24/7 investigations" which you will do when Obama leaves too.
 
2013-05-20 05:35:03 PM  

ManateeGag: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

what are the specific charges?


Don't bother. JWP is another shiat-and-quitter. Trying to get a reply from the coward is, 99% of the time, a waste of time.
 
2013-05-20 05:35:07 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: A Dark Evil Omen: That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.

CynicalLA: He's really concerned.

We all already know that you are just going to post "Uh-UH" everytime, so why even bother?

As always, since you never have anything useful to say when I post, please feel free to avail yoursleves of the ignore button. I promise I will not be offended and I think it will save everyone time.


We are BUTTHURTCON 3, I see. You're as predictable as a clock and you're slobbering over some mindmelting stupidity courtesy of Jennifer Rubin. I mean, I think I probably will take you up on that ignore invitation because you're obviously not worth paying any attention to, but maybe you should consider being less of an idiot in the future.
 
2013-05-20 05:35:29 PM  
He's clearly a Nixonian puppetmaster abusing power and pulling the strings to attack his enemies while being completely inept and clueless as to what his subordinates are doing.    What's worse is he's purposely manipulating and distorting the message to mislead while not doing a real good job of getting a handle on how to properly communicate to the American people what exactly happened.   I'm not saying he'shiatler or Nixon, just saying it's a little Watergate-ish and Holocausty
 
2013-05-20 05:35:49 PM  

MJMaloney187: Best comment from the article (possibly best comment ever):

"The fact that Obama hasn't produced the official document saying "I've officially ordered everything to be Hitlered, Forever" pretty much is either an admission that the document exists and he's hiding it, or he isn't interested in proving that it doesn't exist.

Therefore we must conclude that Obama has Hitlered everything, forever." --  InmanRoshi


He has surpassed the boundaries of FARK, become one with the oversoul, and is now free to roam the open intertubes forever; his trolling the only sign he is still here.....
 
2013-05-20 05:37:15 PM  

Corvus: BojanglesPaladin: They keep shooting themsleves in the foot by going too far and getting busted on the details they have distorted. Obama needs to clean house and see if he can borrow some of the Clinton crew.

Right the group you Republicans labeled the most scandalest administration ever until he left then you went "aww we were just kidding with the impeachments and the 24/7 investigations" which you will do when Obama leaves too.


files.list.co.uk

I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento, except all they have written on their hands is LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS.
 
2013-05-20 05:38:00 PM  

gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento, except all they have written on their hands is LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS.


And a big tattoo of a sexy chicken on their arm.
 
2013-05-20 05:39:00 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: We are BUTTHURTCON 3, I see.


Nah. More like BOREDBYBOORS Level 3. You grossly overestimate your role or importance in my Fark experience.

So please, use the ignore function so I can get onto the business of discussing politics with one less member of the slap-fight brigade nattering on.
 
2013-05-20 05:40:18 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: A Dark Evil Omen: We are BUTTHURTCON 3, I see.

Nah. More like BOREDBYBOORS Level 3. You grossly overestimate your role or importance in my Fark experience.

So please, use the ignore function so I can get onto the business of discussing politics with one less member of the slap-fight brigade nattering on.


No one is forcing you to reply to him, guy.
 
2013-05-20 05:41:41 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: A Dark Evil Omen: We are BUTTHURTCON 3, I see.

Nah. More like BOREDBYBOORS Level 3. You grossly overestimate your role or importance in my Fark experience.

So please, use the ignore function so I can get onto the business of discussing politics with one less member of the slap-fight brigade nattering on.


Your troll game is way too obvious.  Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.
 
2013-05-20 05:43:03 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: BojanglesPaladin: I agree with the headline.

That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.


He's a Birther. What did you expect?
 
2013-05-20 05:43:58 PM  

gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento


I have not suggested that Obama is somehow unique in this.  He's not. But he's supposed to be BETTER. And he's not.

I know you know that just becasue other people ALSO sucked at this, doesn't change whether or not his team sucks.

Again, even if he is completely blameless in each of these scandals, the rookie mistakes that his messaging team keep making are doing damage. These are self-inflicted wounds, easily avoided. He DOES need to replace the people in his administration that keep putting out disprovable explinations.
 
2013-05-20 05:44:42 PM  

Fart_Machine: A Dark Evil Omen: BojanglesPaladin: I agree with the headline.

That's incredibly shocking. I'm shocked. No, really.

He's a Birther. What did you expect?


I dunno, more entertaining BS?
 
2013-05-20 05:46:17 PM  

Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?


WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.


Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.
 
2013-05-20 05:49:05 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento

I have not suggested that Obama is somehow unique in this.  He's not. But he's supposed to be BETTER. And he's not.

I know you know that just becasue other people ALSO sucked at this, doesn't change whether or not his team sucks.

Again, even if he is completely blameless in each of these scandals, the rookie mistakes that his messaging team keep making are doing damage. These are self-inflicted wounds, easily avoided. He DOES need to replace the people in his administration that keep putting out disprovable explinations.


I guess that means a lot, especially coming from someone who has been so fair-minded about Obama for a long time.
 
2013-05-20 05:49:07 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.


Watching you fail is much more fun than ignoring you.
 
2013-05-20 05:51:58 PM  

gimmegimme: I guess that means a lot, especially coming from someone who has been so fair-minded about Obama for a long time.


I'm sorry if I have failed to adore him sufficiently by your standards. FWIW I preferreed him over Hillary, and fark Palin.

But he is certainly subject to a lot of valid criticism.

CynicalLA: blather blather slap-fight troll blather.


Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.
 
2013-05-20 05:52:43 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.


You're just so independent Mr. Goat Farker.
 
2013-05-20 05:52:50 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento

I have not suggested that Obama is somehow unique in this.  He's not. But he's supposed to be BETTER. And he's not.

I know you know that just becasue other people ALSO sucked at this, doesn't change whether or not his team sucks.

Again, even if he is completely blameless in each of these scandals, the rookie mistakes that his messaging team keep making are doing damage. These are self-inflicted wounds, easily avoided. He DOES need to replace the people in his administration that keep putting out disprovable explinations.


So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.
 
2013-05-20 05:59:07 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento, except all they have written on their hands is LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS.

And a big tattoo of a sexy chicken on their arm.


LOL!

/Remember Sandy Jayjay..
 
2013-05-20 06:00:03 PM  
Jennifer Rubin is a f*cking idiot.

That is all.
 
2013-05-20 06:01:41 PM  
If you're going to green that mindless dork, have the balls to put her name in the headline so I can be prepared for the gallons of liquid sh*t that will get poured on me when I click. I'd really appreciate it.
 
2013-05-20 06:02:58 PM  

Atillathepun: BojanglesPaladin: gimmegimme: I swear; it's like Republicans are like that guy in Memento

I have not suggested that Obama is somehow unique in this.  He's not. But he's supposed to be BETTER. And he's not.

I know you know that just becasue other people ALSO sucked at this, doesn't change whether or not his team sucks.

Again, even if he is completely blameless in each of these scandals, the rookie mistakes that his messaging team keep making are doing damage. These are self-inflicted wounds, easily avoided. He DOES need to replace the people in his administration that keep putting out disprovable explinations.

So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.


He has a polling deficit in the negative direction. It's bad news... for Fartbama.
 
2013-05-20 06:05:23 PM  

Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.


I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?
 
2013-05-20 06:06:30 PM  
When I went to Kindergarten, a mentally handicapped boy named Johnathan Rubin shared my class. He didn't talk well and would scream "HOT SAUCE, HOT PICKLES, BARBECUE!" to get attention. He regularly got in trouble for eating out of the garbage after lunch, and several times a week he would poop his pants and just sit in it until someone else pointed out to the teacher that he'd done so.

He was more intelligent then than Jennifer Rubin is now.
 
2013-05-20 06:07:53 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?


http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.as px

Instead of asking questions you could look this shiat up so you wouldn't look stupid.
 
2013-05-20 06:08:07 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good?


Given that 43% of the country are going to hate him simply because he's Blacky McBlackerson playing for Team Donkey, yeah.  They're pretty good.

And when you break down the numbers, it pretty clearly show that that only people who think he's to blame for any of these "scandals" are those 43%.
 
2013-05-20 06:10:37 PM  
The last president who tried to control his administration was Kennedy, and look where it got him. The only way to control the federal government would be for the president to invoke the War Powers Act and start bombing the shiat out of DC. Then, put the survivors on the "kill on sight" list and send the SEALs after them.
 
2013-05-20 06:10:42 PM  

InmanRoshi: Given that 43% of the country are going to hate him simply because he's Blacky McBlackerson playing for Team Donkey, yeah. They're pretty good.


I do not think that 43% of Americans are bigots. Your post makes you sound like Romney.

Nor do I think that Obama's jopb approval numbers are based primarily on these scandals as stated in my post.
 
2013-05-20 06:11:46 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: InmanRoshi: Given that 43% of the country are going to hate him simply because he's Blacky McBlackerson playing for Team Donkey, yeah. They're pretty good.

I do not think that 43% of Americans are bigots. Your post makes you sound like Romney.

Nor do I think that Obama's jopb approval numbers are based primarily on these scandals as stated in my post.


It's amazing that you're so fair-minded, but your opinions always end up on the right in the end.
 
2013-05-20 06:12:54 PM  

Sergeant Grumbles: When I went to Kindergarten, a mentally handicapped boy named Johnathan Rubin shared my class. He didn't talk well and would scream "HOT SAUCE, HOT PICKLES, BARBECUE!" to get attention. He regularly got in trouble for eating out of the garbage after lunch, and several times a week he would poop his pants and just sit in it until someone else pointed out to the teacher that he'd done so.

He was more intelligent then than Jennifer Rubin is now.


Roger that, Sarge.
 
2013-05-20 06:13:11 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?


I think we're finally seeing "scandal overload".

Unless and until there are charges filed (and, I'd argue, convictions; unless they arrest 100 people or some other attention-grabbing thing), people are just too used to the GOP spinning horsehiat into headlines for innuendo and allegation to be effective.

That and they keep hearing the GOP say and do stupid things.

// like not give up on abortion and teh ghey - but surely the 174,116,543,761,043,860,587,602,824,873,097,039,739,080,985,765,806th time's GOTTA be the charm, right?
 
2013-05-20 06:17:55 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.


Please do continue.
 
2013-05-20 06:18:27 PM  

DrPainMD: The last president who tried to control his administration was Kennedy, and look where it got him. The only way to control the federal government would be for the president to invoke the War Powers Act and start bombing the shiat out of DC. Then, put the survivors on the "kill on sight" list and send the SEALs after them.


You know how I know you're getting audited by a drone?
 
2013-05-20 06:18:34 PM  

gimmegimme: It's amazing that you're so fair-minded, but your opinions always end up on the right in the end.


How so? For instance, in this thread, other than criticising the White House Press team, what have I said that you would consider to be "right"?

Dr Dreidel: I think we're finally seeing "scandal overload".

Unless and until there are charges filed (and, I'd argue, convictions; unless they arrest 100 people or some other attention-grabbing thing), people are just too used to the GOP spinning horsehiat into headlines for innuendo and allegation to be effective.


You may be right. It's kind of funny to think that becasue the GOP has been screaming WEREwolf! so long and so often, that when an actual rabid dog shows up, most people don't really care anymore.

// like not give up on abortion and teh ghey - but surely the 174,116,543,761,043,860,587,602,824,873,097,039,739,080,985,765,806th time's GOTTA be the charm, right?

You may have a case on the gay thing, but on abortion, there has been zero significant shift in public opinion in decades.
 
2013-05-20 06:18:39 PM  
I'd kind of like for Obama to take a page from A Few Good Men (and Republicans, in a way).

Q: Did you investigate phone records of AP reporters?
A: You mean "Did I lawfully and legally subpoena records pertaining to a security breach that puts American lives in danger"?
   You're goddamn right I did!

Seriously, Bush pulled that "time of war/national security" crap all the time, and for far more serious and less legal actions than the recent events.
 
2013-05-20 06:19:09 PM  

Dr Dreidel: BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?

I think we're finally seeing "scandal overload".

Unless and until there are charges filed (and, I'd argue, convictions; unless they arrest 100 people or some other attention-grabbing thing), people are just too used to the GOP spinning horsehiat into headlines for innuendo and allegation to be effective.

That and they keep hearing the GOP say and do stupid things.

// like not give up on abortion and teh ghey - but surely the 174,116,543,761,043,860,587,602,824,873,097,039,739,080,985,765,806th time's GOTTA be the charm, right?


Most people just aren't particularly jacked in to this stuff. Of the ones that are, a fraction are the ones that inject Fox and AM radio between their toes and they've been at maximum volume for years. A similar percentage are highly dissatisfied with Obama but get no love and have no common ground with the 101st Chairborne Derp Brigade because the things they're mad about (militarism and aggressive right-wing capitalism) are the parts the derpers are either super-happy with or would be super-happy with if they acknowledged at all. Everyone else is just used to the whining being at maximum and at this point are waiting for the Republicans to do something, anything, to substantiate their nonsense. When they won't even pursue obviously spurious impeachment proceedings - which they have an established history of doing - let alone addressing the "issues" that could be fixed with legislation by actually legislating no one outside the echo chamber is going to take them particularly seriously.
 
2013-05-20 06:26:21 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: It's kind of funny to think that becasue the GOP has been screaming WEREwolf! so long and so often, that when an actual rabid dog shows up, most people don't really care anymore.


There's a famous fable with that exact moral. You should maybe mail your local Republicans a copy; seems like they could learn a thing or two. (There's also one in there about long-necked jugs vs bowls, but that one's a mite esoteric.)

A Dark Evil Omen: Most people just aren't particularly jacked in to this stuff.


They were when "FASTNFURIOUS!!" and "BENGHAZI!!" first hit the scene. Now, every scandal just looks like the "St Anger" of attention-grabbing headlines. It's like "Come on, dude - are you even TRYING anymore?"
 
2013-05-20 06:30:40 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen:Most people just aren't particularly jacked in to this stuff.

No doubt.

A Dark Evil Omen: Of the ones that are, a fraction are the ones that inject Fox and AM radio between their toes and they've been at maximum volume for years.


Do you mean left-wingers or right-wingers? Without their daily dose of Fox/AM outrage, most rabid lefties start winding down. If I ever want to know what Rush or Hannity or Beck said about something (which is exceedingly rare), I ask the most rabidly left-wing of my friends, becasue they WILL know exactly. But I digress...

When they won't even pursue obviously spurious impeachment proceedings - which they have an established history of doing - let alone addressing the "issues" that could be fixed with legislation by actually legislating no one outside the echo chamber is going to take them particularly seriously.

I don't think that anyone outside of the right-wing paid provacatuer set and the derpiest wing-nut teabaggers have an actual interest in impeachment. Even those people vociferously opposed to "Obama's Big Government Takeover" just want it stopped. Impeachment is not an end goal for almost anyone.

I DO think that the combined weight of all these (largely) self-inflicted scandal-ettes is starting to pierce the public consciousness outside of political wonks. I get the sense that it is starting to boil over into the "lot of smoke for there to be no fire" sense among the non attentive public. When even my grandmother-in-law, who is as un-political as it is humanly possible to be is aware of it, it has crossed over.

And for the record, regardless of your politics, it is not good for the country for the president to be caught saying things that are demonstrably false. The primary job of the White House Press team is to prevent the administration from doing that, while presenting things in the best possible light. Too many times, this team has put the White House in the position of having to retract, recant, and re-phrase things for no really good reason. it's no good.
 
2013-05-20 06:31:48 PM  

Dr Dreidel: There's a famous fable with that exact moral.


Never heard of it. Probably some heavy metal long-hair nonsense.
 
2013-05-20 06:35:08 PM  

Halli: BojanglesPaladin: Atillathepun: So bad at messaging that his approval numbers are plummeting upwards.

I don't follow. Do you think that these things won't affect his numbers in upcoming polls?
Or do you think that his numbers are particularly good? Or that they are better than really awful where they have been?
Or do you think that his job approval numbers are exclusively about these 'scandals', and not the general, albeit anemic stabilization of the economy?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.as px

Instead of asking questions you could look this shiat up so you wouldn't look stupid

er

ftfy
 
2013-05-20 06:40:07 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Now, every scandal just looks like the "St Anger" of attention-grabbing headlines. It's like "Come on, dude - are you even TRYING anymore?"


Modern Political Discourse 101 for Metallica-heads.

+1 internets for you, good Doctor.
 
2013-05-20 06:40:37 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: ftfy


Fixed what exactly? No one was disputing the numbers, and the broken link you provided doesn't answer what Atillathepun meant with his comment.

But thanks for the link.

/... you are aware that it shows a 20 point drop since inaguration, right? and that it stops before the recent round of scandal-ettes?
 
2013-05-20 06:44:28 PM  

jimmythefly: I'd kind of like for Obama to take a page from A Few Good Men (and Republicans, in a way).

Q: Did you investigate phone records of AP reporters?
A: You mean "Did I lawfully and legally subpoena records pertaining to a security breach that puts American lives in danger"?
   You're goddamn right I did!

Seriously, Bush pulled that "time of war/national security" crap all the time, and for far more serious and less legal actions than the recent events.


Remember when the National Terror Alert would [not so] inexplicably get raised to fuschia just before a mid-term election over maybe, possibly, somebody who may have said something turrist-y, or bin Laden's latest home video?

Yeah, I'm glad that shiat's over.
 
2013-05-20 06:45:38 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Dr Dreidel: There's a famous fable with that exact moral.

Never heard of it. Probably some heavy metal long-hair nonsense.


What heavy metal long-hair nonsense about wolves may sound like...
 
2013-05-20 06:47:35 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Lionel Mandrake: ftfy

Fixed what exactly? No one was disputing the numbers, and the broken link you provided doesn't answer what Atillathepun meant with his comment.

But thanks for the link.

/... you are aware that it shows a 20 point drop since inaguration, right? and that it stops before the recent round of scandal-ettes?


How exactly is a poll from 17-19. May stopping before the recent round of "scandals"?

Also it was always going to drop after the inauguration.
 
2013-05-20 06:51:05 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Keizer_Ghidorah: I'm not gonna say it's because he's black, but since no other president in the history of the country has had to deal with this much idiocy - not even the white president who WAS born in a different country - on a day-to-day basis...

We get it, he's black.

I think it's primarily because the Republican party has seriously gone off the rails of sanity, and Obama is just the unfortunate one to be stuck dealing with them.

But some of it has to do with him being a different color than them, yes.


And also: PAY ATTENTION TO US!! WHY ISN'T ANYONE TAKING US SERIOUSLY!! THIS IS SERIOUS GODDAMN IT!!!
 
2013-05-20 07:09:10 PM  

Dr Dreidel: What heavy metal long-hair nonsense about wolves may sound like...


You gotta love heavy metal juxtaposed with victorian era bowler hats. And slavery, satanism and ghosts.

But no actual wolves :(
 
2013-05-20 07:36:49 PM  

unyon: jehovahs witness protection: The administration is interested in getting to the bottom of how they won't get caught for any of the other illegal activities they are guilty of.

As a famous republican said, it's not illegal when the president does it.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-20 07:37:43 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.


No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.
 
2013-05-20 07:47:48 PM  
THIS isnt the government our corporate masters paid for!

So this is the Koch's plan to recoup their losses from the last election. Harrass President Obama until they can get an impeachment.

I dont think they have thought their cunning plan all the way through.

/But I guess they ARE creating jobs...
 
2013-05-20 07:48:18 PM  

MJMaloney187: DrPainMD: The last president who tried to control his administration was Kennedy, and look where it got him. The only way to control the federal government would be for the president to invoke the War Powers Act and start bombing the shiat out of DC. Then, put the survivors on the "kill on sight" list and send the SEALs after them.

You know how I know you're getting audited by a drone?


What I propose is legal under current US law.
 
2013-05-20 07:57:05 PM  

DrPainMD: MJMaloney187: DrPainMD: The last president who tried to control his administration was Kennedy, and look where it got him. The only way to control the federal government would be for the president to invoke the War Powers Act and start bombing the shiat out of DC. Then, put the survivors on the "kill on sight" list and send the SEALs after them.

You know how I know you're getting audited by a drone?

What I propose is legal under current US law.


Oh, mah bad, I keep forgetting we are a nation of laws.
 
2013-05-20 08:06:10 PM  
The worst part about this whole dumb thing is that now every damn news article is referring to a trio of scandals, including the benghazi emails, yet not a single one can say what about the emails is a scandal.
 
2013-05-20 08:15:51 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: It would have been a scandal if Obama had known any details about the IG investigation of the IRS's tea party targeting. Link


The sergeant Schultz of American politics.
 
2013-05-20 08:17:25 PM  

BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.


We get it, she's a woman.
 
2013-05-20 08:19:13 PM  
It's times like this that I really miss Freep Impact's posts. Sure, there is a website, but it's just not the same.
 
2013-05-20 08:37:25 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.

We get it, she's a woman partisan hack.

FTFY

 
2013-05-20 08:46:24 PM  

LasersHurt: This is a cozy thing to think, if you ignore him already talking about "getting to the bottom of these issues" because you don't think it's sincere enough, totally, yeah, that's justifiable and not a product of your own preconceptions.


Remember how the NRA opposed him because they felt his expansion of gun rights didn't really count?

And when the same NRA supported Romney, because they felt his limiting of gun rights didn't really count?

Or the log cabin republicans supporting Romney because they felt he wouldn't really limit their rights the way they said he would?

Etc.

etc.

etc.
 
2013-05-20 09:02:07 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.

We get it, she's a woman.


It had me fooled.
 
2013-05-20 09:32:42 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.

We get it, she's a woman.


LOL... look at the guy still employing the Karl Rove strategy! LMAO!
 
2013-05-20 09:41:04 PM  
I'm pretty sure Obama could be caught on film committing first-degree murder and the fools in these threads would still proudly stand behind him. It's eerily so much like a cult. You fools don't even realize how absurd you are at this point. I beg you to utilize even a hint of intellectual honesty and critical thinking with this president. Stop rationalizing everything and defending his ineptitude. We all deserve better than this. The First amendment is not a uniquely conservative or liberal ideal, and you cheerlead as it is blatantly violated. Please stop rationalizing his actions, you're hurting us all.
Or just sit back and enjoy another glass...
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-05-20 09:43:15 PM  

ExpressPork: I'm pretty sure Obama could be caught on film committing first-degree murder and the fools in these threads would still proudly stand behind him. It's eerily so much like a cult. You fools don't even realize how absurd you are at this point. I beg you to utilize even a hint of intellectual honesty and critical thinking with this president. Stop rationalizing everything and defending his ineptitude. We all deserve better than this. The First amendment is not a uniquely conservative or liberal ideal, and you cheerlead as it is blatantly violated. Please stop rationalizing his actions, you're hurting us all.
Or just sit back and enjoy another glass...
[t1.gstatic.com image 253x199]


OH YEAH!!!!
 
2013-05-20 09:45:53 PM  

ExpressPork: I'm pretty sure Obama could be caught on film committing first-degree murder and the fools in these threads would still proudly stand behind him. It's eerily so much like a cult. You fools don't even realize how absurd you are at this point. I beg you to utilize even a hint of intellectual honesty and critical thinking with this president. Stop rationalizing everything and defending his ineptitude. We all deserve better than this. The First amendment is not a uniquely conservative or liberal ideal, and you cheerlead as it is blatantly violated. Please stop rationalizing his actions, you're hurting us all.
Or just sit back and enjoy another glass...
[t1.gstatic.com image 253x199]


How is legally subpoenaing phone records in the investigation of a CRIME which threatened the life of undercover agents and the families thereof, a 'blatant violation' of the First Amendment?

How is the IRS investigating the massive influx of  Republican party fronts conservative organizations filing for tax exempt status (that they probably didn't deserve, as blatantly-political organizations, but never had that status denied anyway) a 'blatant violation' of the First Amendment?
 
2013-05-20 09:48:00 PM  

unlikely: Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."


Do you remember how the official release of his birth certificate on the governments own website was an unflattened image document? Showing the numerous revisions? Or had that thought left you after all the propaganda? Just like how they found and reported on finding the passport of one of the hijackers from 9/11 in the rubble?

It's completely insane.
I'm not even a "birther"
 
2013-05-20 09:48:30 PM  

LordJiro: ExpressPork: I'm pretty sure Obama could be caught on film committing first-degree murder and the fools in these threads would still proudly stand behind him. It's eerily so much like a cult. You fools don't even realize how absurd you are at this point. I beg you to utilize even a hint of intellectual honesty and critical thinking with this president. Stop rationalizing everything and defending his ineptitude. We all deserve better than this. The First amendment is not a uniquely conservative or liberal ideal, and you cheerlead as it is blatantly violated. Please stop rationalizing his actions, you're hurting us all.
Or just sit back and enjoy another glass...
[t1.gstatic.com image 253x199]

How is legally subpoenaing phone records in the investigation of a CRIME which threatened the life of undercover agents and the families thereof, a 'blatant violation' of the First Amendment?

How is the IRS investigating the massive influx of  Republican party fronts conservative organizations filing for tax exempt status (that they probably didn't deserve, as blatantly-political organizations, but never had that status denied anyway) a 'blatant violation' of the First Amendment?


He is just trying to troll. Not doing a great job.
 
2013-05-20 09:50:41 PM  

bdub77: It's always the same 10 conservative sh*tbags that get greenlit on some big media site somewhere. So tired of their boring diatribe.

IT'S OVER. OBAMA WON. YOU LOST. STOP BEING TOTAL DICKS AND START FIXING AMERICA.


Why don't you fix America instead?
 
2013-05-20 09:57:20 PM  

nmrsnr: Also, what potential law has the IRS broken? Even at its worst it seems like managerial abuse of power which deserves all around firing, but what about abusing their discretionary power to investigate would have been illegal? Just curious.


I don't think there's been any illegal conduct identufied, let alone the "unconstitutional" nonsense folks throw out there.
 
2013-05-20 09:57:48 PM  

MJMaloney187: Best comment from the article (possibly best comment ever):

"The fact that Obama hasn't produced the official document saying "I've officially ordered everything to be Hitlered, Forever" pretty much is either an admission that the document exists and he's hiding it, or he isn't interested in proving that it doesn't exist.

Therefore we must conclude that Obama has Hitlered everything, forever." -- InmanRoshia


that IS legendary..
 
2013-05-20 10:05:21 PM  
Uhhhhh - NO. Subby, that's the opposite of what he should do. The more he embraces manufactured, forced controversies the more he'll be connected to them regardless of whether it's really appropriate or not. Putting on some BS dog and pony show projecting forced caring about one controversy after another that the GOP tries to Millhouse in to the zeitgeist would only lend those garbage controversies undeserved legitimacy.

The best thing he can do is be as aloof, detached and professional about them. Keep them at arm's length at all times and let them stink in some other corner of the room.
 
2013-05-20 10:18:32 PM  
And up next: why can't the other team score on our constantly moving goal posts??

It's actually quite a brilliant strategy by the Repubs: generate so many fake scandals at such a furious rate that it would be LITERALLY impossible to saliently address them all.

Used to see it ALL THE TIME in high school debate. It was an especially underhanded move that worked wonders at the amateur level: speak as quickly as possible, making as many points as possible, then next round call out your opponent for not answering every single one. That's the level these people are operating at: amateur high school debate.

/neeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd
 
2013-05-20 10:21:50 PM  

LordJiro: How is legally subpoenaing phone records in the investigation of a CRIME which threatened the life of undercover agents and the families thereof, a 'blatant violation' of the First Amendment?


Well, its not about guns, so that rules out the 2nd.  And its not about state's rights, so that rules out the 10th.    So the only amendment left is the 1st, right?  By process of elimination.
 
2013-05-20 10:48:29 PM  

unlikely: Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."


And we're done here.

None of this is a scandal. NONE OF IT. I'm sick of this shiat. Time to carve out Texas and send all the Republicans, Tea Partiers, and their respective media mouthpieces to Texas so they can all live happily ever after. Farkers,
 
2013-05-20 11:36:36 PM  

IlGreven: There are 43 people who ever lived (and four living right now) who have personal experience of the trials Barack Obama is going through.  Anyone else weighing in, including myself, has only unexperienced suggestions of what they would do if they were there.


43 people ever, 5 living right now. Or 42 people other than Obama, with 4 others living. Remember Grover.
 
2013-05-20 11:56:17 PM  

theknuckler_33: tenpoundsofcheese: BunkoSquad: Jennifer Rubin couldn't talk me out of a burning car.

We get it, she's a woman.

LOL... look at the guy still employing the Karl Rove strategy! LMAO!


Hmmm. I thought the guy still employing the Karl Rove strategy was Karl Rove.
 
2013-05-21 01:04:22 AM  

Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.

No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.


l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.

I think it also shows how his communications team has done a piss-poor job of handling "scandalettes" and nipping nonsense in the bud before they take root. Thanks for reminding me about their track record.
 
2013-05-21 01:16:40 AM  
Your Average Witty Fark User:
None of this is a scandal. NONE OF IT. I'm sick of this shiat. Time to carve out Texas and send all the Republicans, Tea Partiers, and their respective media mouthpieces to Texas so they can all live happily ever after. Farkers,


Don't forget to send the NRA with them and have them hand out guns to everyone.  We can get a ringside seat and watch the whole thing implode.

Though I would miss Texas beef quite a bit...
 
2013-05-21 01:24:14 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.

No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.

l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.

I think it also shows how his communications team has done a piss-poor job of handling "scandalettes" and nipping nonsense in the bud before they take root. Thanks for reminding me about their track record.


The fact that you think releasing ANY of that would dissuade the Birthers shows how naive you are.
 
2013-05-21 01:40:42 AM  

LordJiro: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.

No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.

l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.

I think it also shows how his communications team has done a piss-poor job of handling "scandalettes" and nipping nonsense in the bud before they take root. Thanks for reminding me about their track record.

The fact that you think releasing ANY of that would dissuade the Birthers shows how naive you are.


Jesus himself could ascend from heaven with Obama's birth certificate and God could speak saying he was born in America with a video of him being born in America, and they still would not be satisfied.
 
2013-05-21 01:45:16 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.


No, I just find your "I'm just asking questions" concern-troll shtick to be old and tired.  It was never a "thing" apart from conspiracy nuts and playing to appease that crowd will never, ever happen.
 
2013-05-21 02:00:46 AM  
Without a doubt the most corrupt administration in our nations history. But even before the corruption came to light he was the worst president ever. It's really sad, but the results are in......the great experiment is over and America lost.
 
2013-05-21 02:02:27 AM  

rjkline: Without a doubt the most corrupt administration in our nations history. But even before the corruption came to light he was the worst president ever. It's really sad, but the results are in......the great experiment is over and America lost.


Obama is worse that a million Hitlers.
 
2013-05-21 02:17:53 AM  

rjkline: Without a doubt the most corrupt administration in our nations history. But even before the corruption came to light he was the worst president ever. It's really sad, but the results are in......the great experiment is over and America lost.


Yeah, I remember when Obama started a major ground war based on lies, and gave no-bid contracts for the 'rebuilding' to the Vice President's old company. And that time he negotiated with terrorists with hostages before the '08 election, promising them weapons if they waited 'til after the election to release the hostages. And the time Joe Biden shot a man in the face.
 
2013-05-21 02:53:29 AM  

LordJiro: And the time Joe Biden shot a man in the face.


Self expression. That was art, man.
 
2013-05-21 05:51:31 AM  

Jabberwookiee: IlGreven: There are 43 people who ever lived (and four living right now) who have personal experience of the trials Barack Obama is going through.  Anyone else weighing in, including myself, has only unexperienced suggestions of what they would do if they were there.

Now THAT is the sense of perspective I've been looking for in other people.

Motherfarking QFT.


Surely there are only 42 unless Grover Cleveland counts as two people who had personal experience of being President?
 
2013-05-21 06:06:16 AM  

xria: unless Grover Cleveland counts as two people


I'm counting Taft as two people.
 
2013-05-21 06:06:19 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: Jesus himself could ascend from heaven with Obama's birth certificate


Jesus is a farking commie, who would believe anything he said?
 
2013-05-21 06:26:27 AM  

catusr: Is it possible to get to the "bottom" of an issue?


Some Republicans think so

/especially those arrested in bathroom stalls at airports
 
2013-05-21 07:20:18 AM  

bdub77: IT'S OVER. OBAMA WON. YOU LOST. STOP BEING TOTAL DICKS AND START FIXING AMERICA.


getting to the bottom of why the Justice department is tapping reporters personal cell phones and why the IRS is suppressing free speech and bullying conservatives is fixing America. The president could kick in your door at 3am, spit on you and take a dump on a picture of your grandmother and you and all your other sycophants would fawn over him.  Dont you see?  You're simply another useful idiot and the media just found out what its like to be out of favor.

DrPainMD: The last president who tried to control his administration was Kennedy, and look where it got him.


Nixon may have tried some other illegal activities except back then, tapping phones and stealing documents was a lot harder.
 
2013-05-21 07:24:49 AM  

Zeppelininthesky: LordJiro: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: BojanglesPaladin: Fart_Machine: He's a Birther. What did you expect?

WTF? Where the fark did you get THAT from?

Now I know you don't even know which Farker is which. I bet you think I'm a teabagger too.

/God binary politcos are so godamn boring.

CynicalLA: Your troll game is way too obvious. Everyone knows what you are going to say before you drop that concern turd.

Feel free to put me on ignore. We are all better off without another troll slap-fight brigade member.

No I just remember your concern that Obama should have released his birth certificate earlier too. Guess I remember your shtick better than you do.

l said that he should have smacked the birthers down hard and totally on day one with an avalanche of birth records, family photos, hospital records, pre-school records, immunization records, the works - rather than let it turn into a "thing". I still think he should have.

The fact that you would confuse that with birtherism shows exactly how myopic your ability to parse people's posts is.

I think it also shows how his communications team has done a piss-poor job of handling "scandalettes" and nipping nonsense in the bud before they take root. Thanks for reminding me about their track record.

The fact that you think releasing ANY of that would dissuade the Birthers shows how naive you are.

Jesus himself could ascend from heaven with Obama's birth certificate and God could speak saying he was born in America with a video of him being born in America, and they still would not be satisfied.


To be fair, the tea partiers would be first in line to cruxify him again.
 
2013-05-21 07:44:06 AM  
Went through the whole thread and my only thought is "How the hell did none of you realize a WP article with that derpy of a statement would be a Rubin article?"

Get it together, people.
 
2013-05-21 08:38:01 AM  
Quick test to determine if something is a scandal:

Do Republicans think it is a scandal? If so, then no, it is not a scandal.

/ WE GET IT. HE'S BLACK
// 14GOP88
 
2013-05-21 09:51:44 AM  

o5iiawah: getting to the bottom of why the Justice department is tapping reporters personal cell phones and why the IRS is suppressing free speech and bullying conservatives is fixing America.


Thanks Rush.
 
2013-05-21 10:01:40 AM  

LordJiro: How is the IRS investigating the massive influx of Republican party fronts conservative organizations filing for tax exempt status (that they probably didn't deserve, as blatantly-political organizations, but never had that status denied anyway) a 'blatant violation' of the First Amendment?


The questions that were asked had nothing to do with their request for tax exemption. It was a clear attempt to intimidate them using the color of the law. This is a violation of their civil rights and is 100% against the law.

It has been happening since FDR from presidents to congressmen.
 
2013-05-21 10:08:59 AM  

I alone am best: The questions that were asked had nothing to do with their request for tax exemption.


You haven't read the questionnaire have you.  It's available in PDF form.  Stop relying on Talk Radio.
 
2013-05-21 11:24:59 AM  

I alone am best: It has been happening since FDR from presidents to congressmen.


And apparently 501(c)'s have now been around from the 1930's instead of 1954.  Right.
 
2013-05-21 12:56:21 PM  

o5iiawah: why the IRS is suppressing free speech and bullying conservatives is fixing America


Free speech = using a 501(c)(4) to hide the donor list for your political organization.
 
2013-05-21 01:12:16 PM  

unlikely: Were I Obama, I'd be tempted to say "Get to the bottom of it? Like with your goddamn birth certificate obsession? Grow up, shut up, and hand in your press passes at the door on your way out. We'll give them to some real journalists and see if maybe that improves the country as a whole."


Like Dan Rather?  Does anyone trust journalists anymore?
 
2013-05-21 01:25:24 PM  

cousin-merle: o5iiawah: why the IRS is suppressing free speech and bullying conservatives is fixing America

Free speech = using a 501(c)(4) to hide the donor list for your political organization.


But they had to fill out a questionnaire.  A questionnaire!

trey101: Like Dan Rather?


Or ABC?
 
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