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(Huffington Post)   Mitch McConnell defends White House on the AP scandal. In other news, fire and brimstone reported coming down from the sky, rivers and seas are boiling, the dead are rising from the grave, dogs and cats are living together   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 19
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2013-05-20 08:27:50 AM  
Based off of what I know about this case, I can't say I disagree with the senator here.

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I feel so dirty... :(
 
2013-05-20 08:40:08 AM  
Wasn't Mitch the guy who had a confidentiality issue where they talked about using the mental stability of a potential candidate opposing him against that potential candidate in an election while on the taxpayers dime?

Seems convenient enough to get on that side.
 
2013-05-20 08:43:03 AM  
This is a great example of how the GOP has painted itself into a corner.  Words words words because TERROR, and when that conflicts with the History's Greatest Monster narrative, something has to give.

The ragebaggers will not be at all happy with this.  But then they wouldn't be happy no matter what, because they want their mutually-contradictory beliefs to be simultaneously upheld.  I guess the lesson is that the GOP leadership hasn't yet quite come up with the language for "We have always been at war with our trusted ally Eurasia."
 
2013-05-20 08:44:49 AM  

xanadian: Based off of what I know about this case, I can't say I disagree with the senator here.

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I feel so dirty... :(


I know right.

AP leaks a story in which the CIA foils a plot to get a bomb on a plane using an upgraded underwear bomb, the double agent they were working with was going to get reinserted into the terrorist network to find this guy that makes these bombs who apparently is a farking ghost and god damn genius at making this shiat (he was responsible for that printer cartridge bomb in Yemen).

So anyway, because they leak the story now they have to relocate this double agent and they line they had on finding this bomb making guy is lost.

As much as I hate government overreach, I think this is a moment where its justifiable.
 
2013-05-20 08:49:58 AM  
The GOP has always been in favor of giving the government greater surveillance powers.  I suppose we should be surprised that he's actually being consistent on an issue for once.
 
2013-05-20 08:50:36 AM  

Kibbler: This is a great example of how the GOP has painted itself into a corner.  Words words words because TERROR, and when that conflicts with the History's Greatest Monster narrative, something has to give.

The ragebaggers will not be at all happy with this.  But then they wouldn't be happy no matter what, because they want their mutually-contradictory beliefs to be simultaneously upheld.  I guess the lesson is that the GOP leadership hasn't yet quite come up with the language for "We have always been at war with our trusted ally Eurasia."


Your comment is a great example of partisan bs.
When the other side agrees with the opposition's opinion it is referred to as painting themselves into a corner
 
2013-05-20 08:57:47 AM  
Both the Democrats and Republicans have a vested interest in punishing a free press in the name of national security.

This isn't news. The only time they *ever* agree on something is when it promotes the power of the State at the expense of our rights.
 
2013-05-20 09:00:47 AM  
The AP still sucks.
AP style sucks.
AP reporting sucks.

Case in point from the weekend: Car plows into hiker parade in Damascus, Va., millions injured.
Not.
 
2013-05-20 09:02:04 AM  

Aarontology: Both the Democrats and Republicans have a vested interest in punishing a free press in the name of national security.

This isn't news. The only time they *ever* agree on something is when it promotes the power of the State at the expense of our rights.



The press isn't worth defending here.  This is more of the Plamegate shiat really.
 
2013-05-20 09:03:35 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: xanadian: Based off of what I know about this case, I can't say I disagree with the senator here.

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I feel so dirty... :(

I know right.

AP leaks a story in which the CIA foils a plot to get a bomb on a plane using an upgraded underwear bomb, the double agent they were working with was going to get reinserted into the terrorist network to find this guy that makes these bombs who apparently is a farking ghost and god damn genius at making this shiat (he was responsible for that printer cartridge bomb in Yemen).

So anyway, because they leak the story now they have to relocate this double agent and they line they had on finding this bomb making guy is lost.

As much as I hate government overreach, I think this is a moment where its justifiable.


Nope. Conducting blanket surveillance of a news organization, especially when the cat is already out of the bag, is a unprecedented violation of press freedom and suggests the government is out to intimidate anyone from saying anything different than what official spokespeople say as much as they're trying to find a leak. This is the administration that gave a free pass to torture perpetrators while prosecuting those who revealed the the torture.
 
2013-05-20 09:05:59 AM  

Nem Wan: Nope. Conducting blanket surveillance of a news organization, especially when the cat is already out of the bag, is a unprecedented violation of press freedom and suggests the government is out to intimidate anyone from saying anything different than what official spokespeople say as much as they're trying to find a leak. This is the administration that gave a free pass to torture perpetrators while prosecuting those who revealed the the torture.


It was done in an attempt to find the leak, you know so that they can prevent future leaks and future fark ups of investigations

Just saying, as much as I cringe saying it, this was justifiable and well within the scope of national security.
 
MFK
2013-05-20 09:12:31 AM  

Nem Wan: IdBeCrazyIf: xanadian: Based off of what I know about this case, I can't say I disagree with the senator here.

...

I feel so dirty... :(

I know right.

AP leaks a story in which the CIA foils a plot to get a bomb on a plane using an upgraded underwear bomb, the double agent they were working with was going to get reinserted into the terrorist network to find this guy that makes these bombs who apparently is a farking ghost and god damn genius at making this shiat (he was responsible for that printer cartridge bomb in Yemen).

So anyway, because they leak the story now they have to relocate this double agent and they line they had on finding this bomb making guy is lost.

As much as I hate government overreach, I think this is a moment where its justifiable.

Nope. Conducting blanket surveillance of a news organization, especially when the cat is already out of the bag, is a unprecedented violation of press freedom and suggests the government is out to intimidate anyone from saying anything different than what official spokespeople say as much as they're trying to find a leak. This is the administration that gave a free pass to torture perpetrators while prosecuting those who revealed the the torture.


As much as I agree with you on principle, in practice, I think it's AP who is the bad actor here. Just because you know something doesn't mean you necessarily have to report it. There is editorial discretion. To be fair, a foiled terrorist plot involving airplanes is catnip to a news agency, but these guys blew the lid off an active operation. I don't think this was done to intimidate the press, but rather to find out who was leaking this stuff.
 
2013-05-20 09:13:45 AM  
The folks that keep on sticking it to this chicken are mostly the AP.....which makes sense.

But by the same token when my basement flooded I didn't say it was the result of global warming and we needed to demolish western civilization and go back to living in the trees.

Yes, there's a chilling effect in that informants may not come forward or be as forthcoming.  But that will fade in a short span of time.  The thoughts of why a potential informant wants to do what they want to do is much greater than the memory of an incident like this.
 
2013-05-20 09:50:29 AM  
The sweeping and overly intrusive nature of the phone records grab obviously goes beyond finding a leak in the administration. It's harassment and a clear signal the most transparent administration in history will control all aspects of communication from government.

As has been said, who would dare speak about anything, knowing the lengths the AG's office will go to to track you down if they don't like what you said.
 
2013-05-20 09:53:06 AM  

Cletus C.: The sweeping and overly intrusive nature of the phone records grab obviously goes beyond finding a leak in the administration. It's harassment and a clear signal the most transparent administration in history will control all aspects of communication from government.

As has been said, who would dare speak about anything, knowing the lengths the AG's office will go to to track you down if they don't like what you said.


Translation: "Literally any and all information and facts about this are irrelevant, as are all interpretations other than my own. This is obviously harrassment, because I said it is, and you have no choice to believe me.

Requests for proof are just a liberal double standard to protect their messiah."
 
2013-05-20 10:06:08 AM  

LasersHurt: Cletus C.: The sweeping and overly intrusive nature of the phone records grab obviously goes beyond finding a leak in the administration. It's harassment and a clear signal the most transparent administration in history will control all aspects of communication from government.

As has been said, who would dare speak about anything, knowing the lengths the AG's office will go to to track you down if they don't like what you said.

Translation: "Literally any and all information and facts about this are irrelevant, as are all interpretations other than my own. This is obviously harrassment, because I said it is, and you have no choice to believe me.

Requests for proof are just a liberal double standard to protect their messiah."


Blind defense.

The AP says it held the story until receiving assurances from the government that the national security concerns had passed. It also says the Obama administration planned to announce the next day that it had thwarted the bomb plot.

National security not being the issue at that point, it was about rooting out a problem child in the administration and apparently sending a message to the media by showing its power to control the flow of information by reaching into its work and personal lives of reporters.
 
2013-05-20 10:13:03 AM  

Cletus C.: LasersHurt: Cletus C.: The sweeping and overly intrusive nature of the phone records grab obviously goes beyond finding a leak in the administration. It's harassment and a clear signal the most transparent administration in history will control all aspects of communication from government.

As has been said, who would dare speak about anything, knowing the lengths the AG's office will go to to track you down if they don't like what you said.

Translation: "Literally any and all information and facts about this are irrelevant, as are all interpretations other than my own. This is obviously harrassment, because I said it is, and you have no choice to believe me.

Requests for proof are just a liberal double standard to protect their messiah."

Blind defense.

The AP says it held the story until receiving assurances from the government that the national security concerns had passed. It also says the Obama administration planned to announce the next day that it had thwarted the bomb plot.

National security not being the issue at that point, it was about rooting out a problem child in the administration and apparently sending a message to the media by showing its power to control the flow of information by reaching into its work and personal lives of reporters.


I legitimately believe that you think those things are facts, not blind assumptions of motive on your part.
 
2013-05-20 10:16:16 AM  
Kibbler:   But then they wouldn't be happy no matter what, because they want their mutually-contradictory beliefs to be simultaneously upheld.  I

Oddly, this is a basic tenet of Liberly ideology and a requirement in almost every leftist argument..
 
2013-05-20 10:25:40 AM  

LasersHurt: Cletus C.: LasersHurt: Cletus C.: The sweeping and overly intrusive nature of the phone records grab obviously goes beyond finding a leak in the administration. It's harassment and a clear signal the most transparent administration in history will control all aspects of communication from government.

As has been said, who would dare speak about anything, knowing the lengths the AG's office will go to to track you down if they don't like what you said.

Translation: "Literally any and all information and facts about this are irrelevant, as are all interpretations other than my own. This is obviously harrassment, because I said it is, and you have no choice to believe me.

Requests for proof are just a liberal double standard to protect their messiah."

Blind defense.

The AP says it held the story until receiving assurances from the government that the national security concerns had passed. It also says the Obama administration planned to announce the next day that it had thwarted the bomb plot.

National security not being the issue at that point, it was about rooting out a problem child in the administration and apparently sending a message to the media by showing its power to control the flow of information by reaching into its work and personal lives of reporters.

I legitimately believe that you think those things are facts, not blind assumptions of motive on your part.


I believe the AP part was its version of events. And yes, I believe AP's version of events. The part about the administration sending a message and being overreaching to the point of harassment in order to lock down all communication is indeed my opinion. Sorry I wasn't clear on that.
 
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