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(Canada Free Press)   "It is not hyperbole to say Barack Obama is the worst President in the history of the nation"   (canadafreepress.com) divider line 215
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2013-05-20 10:44:28 AM  
"and yet I cannot recall any significant examples, nor does a look back at those years reveal any scandals resulting from his administration's governance. It was not perfect, but it was not corrupt."

Does he mean, other than those pallets of billions in cash that vanished in Iraq?  For a single example.

But I'm sure it was an honest mistake, and all the cash has been accounted for, and stern letters were sent to the totally honest and too-trusting people who let it happen.
 
2013-05-20 10:50:24 AM  

Kibbler: "and yet I cannot recall any significant examples, nor does a look back at those years reveal any scandals resulting from his administration's governance. It was not perfect, but it was not corrupt."

Does he mean, other than those pallets of billions in cash that vanished in Iraq?  For a single example.

But I'm sure it was an honest mistake, and all the cash has been accounted for, and stern letters were sent to the totally honest and too-trusting people who let it happen.


FYI they found that missing pallet money years ago. It was pretty much piss-poor paperwork.
 
2013-05-20 10:52:37 AM  
It's really not.
 
2013-05-20 10:54:21 AM  
FTA:All through George W. Bush's two terms, the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and others claimed that they represented "a culture of corruption" and yet I cannot recall any significant examples, nor does a look back at those years reveal any scandals resulting from his administration's governance. It was not perfect, but it was not corrupt.

At least he came right out of the gate letting you know he is full of shiat,or perhaps was just not even alive during the Bush administration.
 
2013-05-20 10:55:50 AM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

Worse than these two?
 
2013-05-20 10:56:26 AM  

Mugato: Ned Stark: So, what you are saying is that Republicans support half of all murderous authoritarian presidents and Democrats support them all?

I'm saying that for a brief moment everyone dropped their partisan bullshiat in a time of crisis, something I don't see the republicans having the ability to ever do.


Yes Democrats look very reasonable and level headed and bipartisan.

Also half a million people died.

But come on, be reasonable!
 
2013-05-20 10:58:55 AM  
I thought we were done comparing Obama to Reagan?
 
2013-05-20 10:58:56 AM  

coeyagi: The Historians Never Got the GOP memo entitled "We Can Haz Mulligan?".


I think not.
 
2013-05-20 11:01:03 AM  
here's the rubric: take everything that's actually true about bush and say it about obama.
simple as that.
 
2013-05-20 11:04:15 AM  

mentula: here's the rubric: take everything that's actually true about bush and say it about obama.
simple as that.


"Rubric"? Do you subscribe to some Word of the Day or Improve Your Vocabulary scheme and that was the word of the day?

If so then holy shiat awesome job fitting that word into a conversation.
 
2013-05-20 11:05:18 AM  

cman: Kibbler: "and yet I cannot recall any significant examples, nor does a look back at those years reveal any scandals resulting from his administration's governance. It was not perfect, but it was not corrupt."

Does he mean, other than those pallets of billions in cash that vanished in Iraq?  For a single example.

But I'm sure it was an honest mistake, and all the cash has been accounted for, and stern letters were sent to the totally honest and too-trusting people who let it happen.

FYI they found that missing pallet money years ago. It was pretty much piss-poor paperwork.



From the Article:
The mystery of $6 billion that http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/06/13/exp.tsr.todd.miss ing.iraq.cash.cnn" target=_blank>seemed to go missing in the early days of the Iraq war has been resolved, according to a new report.

That's funny. I remember when it was $9 Billion.

Monday, January 31, 2005 Posted: 0412 GMT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/">http://ed ition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/


/go figure
 
2013-05-20 11:09:43 AM  
I know!


I would have gotten a 25% instead of 15% raise this year if Romney had been elected.


DAMN YOU FARTBAMA!!
 
2013-05-20 11:09:53 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: cman: Kibbler: "and yet I cannot recall any significant examples, nor does a look back at those years reveal any scandals resulting from his administration's governance. It was not perfect, but it was not corrupt."

Does he mean, other than those pallets of billions in cash that vanished in Iraq?  For a single example.

But I'm sure it was an honest mistake, and all the cash has been accounted for, and stern letters were sent to the totally honest and too-trusting people who let it happen.

FYI they found that missing pallet money years ago. It was pretty much piss-poor paperwork.


From the Article:
The mystery of $6 billion that http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/06/13/exp.tsr.todd.miss ing.iraq.cash.cnn" target=_blank>seemed to go missing in the early days of the Iraq war has been resolved, according to a new report.

That's funny. I remember when it was $9 Billion.

Monday, January 31, 2005 Posted: 0412 GMT
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/">http://ed ition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/01/30/iraq.audit/


/go figure


We were talking about pallets of cash that went missing.
 
2013-05-20 11:11:07 AM  

cman: mentula: here's the rubric: take everything that's actually true about bush and say it about obama.
simple as that.

"Rubric"? Do you subscribe to some Word of the Day or Improve Your Vocabulary scheme and that was the word of the day?


no, in fac i tawk like dat natchilly.
 
2013-05-20 11:11:57 AM  
He's not even the worst President in the last two.
 
2013-05-20 11:12:05 AM  
Obama isn't even the worst president of the 21st century.
 
2013-05-20 11:17:41 AM  
Whose idea was it to put Grant and Jackson on money? A corrupt moron who let his cronies steal from the treasury, and a psychopathic murdering racist?
 
2013-05-20 11:23:59 AM  

mentula: here's the rubric: take everything that's actually true about bush and say it about obama.
simple as that.


I had to go look that up.  I don't have to look up words often.

Thank you for making me smarter today!
 
2013-05-20 11:29:57 AM  

AkaDad: Anyone who uses hyperbole is worse than Hitler.


And if Hitler says, "If I've told you once, I've told you a million times," then it's a divide-by-Hitler error.
 
2013-05-20 11:45:22 AM  

Gulper Eel: Philip Francis Queeg: So what makes Carter the worst? Just your opinion that he was somehow supposed to be "different"? That he didn't support repressive regimes that you preferred?

Carter's not on my worst list at all (upthread I went with Buchanan, Tyler, Hoover, Fillmore, Nixon) - but he is painted as a saint so often, and in supposed contrast to "warmongers", that I have to call bullshiat.

Carter is most definitely on my most-overrated list, along with Wilson, LBJ, Reagan, Jackson and Obama.


You seem to have a lot of problems with Carter's foreign policy.

Start with Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. If Carter had done nothing, do you think things would have worked out?  That country was on a trajectory to failure.  A half-nutty warlord takes charge of an African nation and wrecks it. Yeah, never seen that before, or since.

Indonesia - Do you think Suharto would have played nice in East Timor, if only we hand't sold him weapons?  Do you think the US is the only source for weapons?

I'm not defending Carter's actions on these, I'm saying laying the blame for those deaths on him is not reasonable. The Iraq war happened solely because of the Bush administration.  Instead of Saddam murdering a few thousand political opponents a year, we cranked the slaughter up to a massive scale (and it's still going on). We actually caused that, as versus Carter, who facilitated these disasters.

You also ignore Carter's success in the Middle East - the Camp David accords. Getting Egypt to stand down was a big boost to Israel's security, and thus the stability of the region.

Carter's failures were from two things: he took the wrong steps to deal with the economy, and in general he micromanaged .small things and thus failed to tackle big initiatives.
 
2013-05-20 12:03:13 PM  
i86.photobucket.com

Not even close subby. Harding makes Carter and Nixon look good.
 
2013-05-20 12:04:11 PM  
Not the best.  But then I liked that Clinton played the sax.  Oh Politics?  Not interested.
 
2013-05-20 12:11:48 PM  

Kibbler: AkaDad: Anyone who uses hyperbole is worse than Hitler.

And if Hitler says, "If I've told you once, I've told you a million times," then it's a divide-by-Hitler error.


You guys are nuts. Hyperbole is literally the single greatest linguistic technique of all time!

/of all time.
 
2013-05-20 12:13:35 PM  

seniorgato: Not the best.  But then I liked that Clinton played the sax.  Oh Politics?  Not interested.


Nixon tickled the ivories like a pro. Did any presidents play drums? I wonder what the best Presidential band would look like.
 
2013-05-20 12:19:26 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: seniorgato: Not the best.  But then I liked that Clinton played the sax.  Oh Politics?  Not interested.

Nixon tickled the ivories like a pro. Did any presidents play drums? I wonder what the best Presidential band would look like.


Obama--lead singer
Nixon--Piano
Clinton--Sax
Dubya--Washboard
 
2013-05-20 12:19:54 PM  
God Fark is particularly stupid right now. It's like back when Bush got elected, everyone was so damn stupid on this board, had no idea what they were in store for.
 
2013-05-20 12:20:56 PM  

Spad31: TommyymmoT: Dear subby, and I mean this most sincerely,
[i487.photobucket.com image 850x478]

I'm not subby, so I won't be offing myself because of your post, but I do have to ask: why do you care so much? Why would you give a shiat what someone thinks about someone you voted for? O doesn't know you and wouldn't give you the time of day if you met him on the street.


I'll take a swing at this- it's because words MEAN something.  We realize we live in a postmodern world and that politics have also reached the point where political language has become detached from observable reality, at least for a large segment of the population.

It's not just stupid that folks like Glenn Beck regularly compare the president to Hitler or use the fascism word.  It's debasing of the language and ultimately dangerous in that it lessons the gravity of the language should such a specter ever reappear on the world scene.
 
2013-05-20 12:21:58 PM  
If you know anything about history, Buchanan, Fillmore and Harding will always be at the very bottom.
 
2013-05-20 12:26:49 PM  
I disagree with Obama's politics, but there are a lot of presidents who were worse.  Agree with it or not, Obama did get health care passed.  and the stock market isn't doing too shabby either.  Right now I see Obama in the middle of the pack.
 
2013-05-20 12:27:32 PM  

Gyrfalcon: If you know anything about history, Buchanan, Fillmore and Harding will always be at the very bottom.


That's a huge leap of faith you're taking with the Teabaggers.
 
2013-05-20 12:32:04 PM  
He is certainly the blackest.
 
2013-05-20 12:35:25 PM  

cman: Sorry, subs, but I seriously doubt anyone could take that title from Carter.


www.veteranstoday.com
 
2013-05-20 12:36:01 PM  

doyner: UrukHaiGuyz: seniorgato: Not the best.  But then I liked that Clinton played the sax.  Oh Politics?  Not interested.

Nixon tickled the ivories like a pro. Did any presidents play drums? I wonder what the best Presidential band would look like.

Obama--lead singer
Nixon--Piano
Clinton--Sax
Dubya--Washboard


I like it. According to the Googles Warren G. Harding once said, "I played every instrument but the slide trombone and the E-flat cornet." Add him in the mix and let 'em rip on some New Orleans style swing.

Set List:

Don't Get Around (philibusters) Much Anymore
Is You Is or Is You Ain't My Constituents
Pennies from Taxpayers
Mack the Lobbyist
 
2013-05-20 12:38:11 PM  
That's odd, I missed the second Civil War breaking out.
 
2013-05-20 12:45:04 PM  

Kibbler: AkaDad: Anyone who uses hyperbole is worse than Hitler.

And if Hitler says, "If I've told you once, I've told you a million times," then it's a divide-by-Hitler error.


I literally can't type a reply to that.
 
2013-05-20 12:59:25 PM  

Spad31: TommyymmoT: Dear subby, and I mean this most sincerely,
[i487.photobucket.com image 850x478]

I'm not subby, so I won't be offing myself because of your post, but I do have to ask: why do you care so much? Why would you give a shiat what someone thinks about someone you voted for? O doesn't know you and wouldn't give you the time of day if you met him on the street.


The problem is that it's a reminder that Obama could cure cancer and people like him would whine that he's eliminating jobs in health care.  But that's not the real problem.  The REAL problem is that people like him dominate American media, all the while crying and moaning that people who disagree with him dominate the American media.

The same people who are patently against the Fairness Act demand equal time whenever there's a slightly louder liberal voice in the media.  And these people get people elected.  The Tea Party politicians didn't dominate the 2010 midterms because their ideas were good or that they cared about the American people.  It's because they had a VERY strong media arm in the form of talk radio and Fox News (cue the graphic of "FNC Present the Tea Party Rallies").  The reason they were beaten so badly, and only kept the Congress because of aggressive redistricting, was because of buyer's remorse.

And let's face it, the first couple sentences of the article say "I can't remember anything corrupt the Bush administration did."  Seriously?  SERIOUSLY?!
 
2013-05-20 01:03:03 PM  

GiantRex: Aggregate results, polls of historical rankings of US presidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the _ United_States

37. Ulysses S. Grant
38. Millard Fillmore
39. William Henry Harrison
40. Franklin Pierce
41. Andrew Johnson
42. James Buchanan
43. Warren G. Harding


If your presidency has been qualified as being worse than a president who caught a case of the sniffles and died 30 days into his term, you have the kind of long and unyielding suckage that Jenna Haze would sit up and takes notes from you in order to improve her technique.
 
2013-05-20 01:09:49 PM  
Gulper Eel:
In Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, Carter the master of African diplomacy helped force out the nasty bigot Ian Smith but then threw in behind the vastly worse Robert Mugabe knowing full well what he was about, and helped ruin that country as surely as if we had carpet-bombed it.

That's complete BS. At the time Mugabe was, or at least appeared to be, reasonable and progressive. Many whites and blacks in Zimbabwe supported him and had great hopes for his administration and the country. It was only much later that he either changed or showed his true colors (different views on this). I have many black and white Zim friends and they all have told me the same. Carter was wrong about him too but where is your evidence that he knew what Mugabe's true nature was? Stop rewriting history to fit your agenda.
 
2013-05-20 01:15:31 PM  

cman: Mugato: Mugato: cman: Sorry, subs, but I seriously doubt anyone could take that title from Carter.

How many countries did Carter invade under false pretenses? I missed have cut my history class that day.

must have, that is

Since when does lying make one a terrible President?


Since those lies costs lives that number in the hundreds of thousands.  Between that, the media consolidation that but hundreds of communications companies out of business, the callous disregard for what is best for the American people (seriously, when confronted with the fact that Americans felt they did the wrong thing, both Cheney and Bush responded "So?"), aggressive contempt for leaders in other countries (there's a reason that before the photo of world leaders during the emergency summit towards the end of Bush's term, no one would shake his hand...and, by the way, John Bolton), and almost comical arrogance towards the people he has to negotiate with (and next time a Republican refers to Obama as "arrogant", which is code for "uppity", no one in the Obama administration has told an elected official to go F himself on the floor of the House or Senate).

Basically, what I'm saying is that George W. Bush is certainly the worst President in my lifetime.  Also, if he hadn't been so paranoid, Nixon would've been pretty good, too.
 
2013-05-20 01:15:59 PM  

ikanreed: cman: Sorry, subs, but I seriously doubt anyone could take that title from Carter.

Main thing Carter did wrong: tried to control inflation during a recession.  He'd be a conservative hero today.


The main reason Carter is called a bad president is because he was in Reagan's way.  After the election, everything Carter did was thrown out, whether it made sense or not.
 
2013-05-20 01:36:51 PM  

cman: Sorry, subs, but I seriously doubt anyone could take that title from Carter.


I forget, was Carter the one who got impeached or the one who sold arms to Iran to fund drug cartels in Central America?  Oh no, he was the one let 9/11 happen on his watch.  Forgot about that. He does suck!
 
2013-05-20 01:38:28 PM  

cman: I hear a lot about how Vietnam was one of those kind of wars. JFK Eisenhower put the first troops there


Fixed that for you.
 
2013-05-20 01:41:43 PM  

cman: Mugato: Gulper Eel: B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but he was different from Reagan, Nixon and Bush?

We'll have to agree to disagree if you think all of that is worse than a campaign that cost  4 trillion dollars and around a half million deaths. Plus the laundry list of other shiat Bush did that everyone already knows.

I hear a lot about how Vietnam was one of those kind of wars. JFK put the first troops there and LBJ significantly increased them to obscene levels; yet it is Nixon who always gets the shaft for it. Obama didnt end the Iraq war as soon as he entered the White House. In fact, Obama wanted to keep troops there, but the Iraqi refusal to grant soldier immunity convinced him to bring them home.

LBJ and JFK get a free pass and Nixon takes it up the ass. Isnt that kinda farked up?

All I am saying is that if you are gonna throw out the "but-but-but-BUSH!" arguments then stop treating those on your side as flawless. JFK started a war that killed over 2 million Vietnamese and yet you guys love him.


how many illegal sorties over Cambodia did LBJ and JFK approve?
 
2013-05-20 01:44:10 PM  

floor: I give Nixon credit for opening relations with China


And now that China took our manufacturing jobs and we owe them money, I guess that's Carter's fault. :/
 
2013-05-20 01:53:05 PM  

SlothB77: I disagree with Obama's politics, but there are a lot of presidents who were worse.  Agree with it or not, Obama did get health care passed.  and the stock market isn't doing too shabby either.  Right now I see Obama in the middle of the pack.


you reasonable bastard! I AM OUTRAGED
 
2013-05-20 01:53:35 PM  

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: floor: I give Nixon credit for opening relations with China

And now that China took our manufacturing jobs and we owe them money, I guess that's Carter's fault. :/


This Carter guy seems to have the whole world against him.  Must be the last name:

www.citynews.ca

/what a dick
 
2013-05-20 01:56:15 PM  
Please tell us exactly why he is the worst president ever. Please do not use stupid answers like Socializim! or Death Panels.
 
2013-05-20 01:58:14 PM  

Rann Xerox: GiantRex: Aggregate results, polls of historical rankings of US presidents: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the _ United_States

39. William Henry Harrison


If your presidency has been qualified as being worse than a president who caught a case of the sniffles and died 30 days into his term, you have the kind of long and unyielding suckage that Jenna Haze would sit up and takes notes from you in order to improve her technique.


He should just be left off those lists entirely. He didn't really do anything as President, good or bad.
 
2013-05-20 02:02:07 PM  

dennysgod: [i86.photobucket.com image 275x468]

Not even close subby. Harding makes Carter and Nixon look good.


Sorry, but Harding doesn't compare to Nixon in sleaze. No, really.

When counting the amount of damage caused, the worst president was, hands down, Woodrow Wilson. Then the couple or three right before the civil war. Then Dubya. Then Nixon.
 
2013-05-20 02:02:28 PM  
The first thing the article mentions is "shadowy Czars." I didn't bother to read the rest of the article if the author didn't bother to do a little research to find out that czars are nothing new, and Obama does not seem to have an inordinate number of them. If that's his lede, there isn't much else I would trust from this guy.
 
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