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(Time)   The twelve most significant moments in the history of pizza. Missing from the list: the advent of superior Chicago-Style pizza   (business.time.com) divider line 202
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2013-05-20 04:22:12 AM
The only thing on this list that matters is Neapolitan style pizza. Compared to that, NY and Chicago style are absolute crap, with their preservative laden ingredients. I currently live in Napoli, and love going to my local take-out place, because the people making it have actually gone to a pizzaioli school to learn their trade. Watching the pizza cook for 90 seconds in a blazing hot wood fired oven is truly sublime. Also, using fresh ingredients is important. Fresh buffalo mozzarella from the Campania region, fresh tomatoes grown on Vesuvius, and some local basel, and you have yourself the best pizza ever.
 
2013-05-20 04:38:22 AM

Certainly You Jest: That was good enough that a second go-round was in fact warranted.

/I lol'd


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2013-05-20 04:55:11 AM
I swear the Fark admins have direct orders to greenlight a pizza thread at least once a week.
 
2013-05-20 04:58:46 AM

alienated: this thread ( again ) is a waste of electrons. Sometimes thin crust is good, sometimes it is not.sometimes deep dish is good, sometimes its not.
Now excuse me while i consume my frank with ketchup, brown mustard, onions and best foods mayo


Burn in hell, heretic.  Ketchup goes on burgers, mustard goes on hot dogs.

It's right there in Leviticus, ffs, just after the mixed-threads bit...
 
2013-05-20 04:59:17 AM

bearded clamorer: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x637]

List fails


Pizza on a stick isn't particularly innovative.

groups.csail.mit.edu
 
2013-05-20 05:08:33 AM

DreamyAltarBoy: gibbon1: gingerjet: I once helped a company set up an office above a pizza place in Manhattan and all I have to say is that NY pizza is complete and utter shiat. If I wanted to eat cardboard with cheese on top on a regular basis I would just go to Office Depot.

I've noticed that the same people that like New York Style Pizza like the Stinking Rose in North Beach.

Tourists from the Midwest?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKuT3dIwfc
 
2013-05-20 05:12:06 AM
There's a heck of a lot of difference between the pizzas you get form chains like Domino's or Pizza Hut and the ones you get from small mom-and-pop Italian restaurants.  The latter are thinner.  And of course better.
 
2013-05-20 05:13:02 AM

mjohnson71: I swear the Fark admins have direct orders to greenlight a pizza thread at least once a week.


You could say that Drew wrote the book on repetitive news cycles.
 
2013-05-20 05:17:32 AM

illannoyin: Fubini: St. Louis style pizza is clearly the most superior. Nothing beats provel on a matzo cracker, and you're a heretic if your pizza slices have three sides.

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As a St. Louisan I love all types of pizza. St. Louis style. Detroit style. Chicago style. New York style. Neopolitan. whatever it may be. I'm just glad to live in a city where I can get most of those and people are accepting of all pizza styles.

I've never under stood the whole "THE PIZZA STYLE I LIKE IS THE GREATEST! NO OTHER PIZZA STYLES CAN EXIST!" dogma.
 
2013-05-20 05:45:20 AM

mjohnson71: illannoyin: Fubini: St. Louis style pizza is clearly the most superior. Nothing beats provel on a matzo cracker, and you're a heretic if your pizza slices have three sides.

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As a St. Louisan I love all types of pizza. St. Louis style. Detroit style. Chicago style. New York style. Neopolitan. whatever it may be. I'm just glad to live in a city where I can get most of those and people are accepting of all pizza styles.

I've never under stood the whole "THE PIZZA STYLE I LIKE IS THE GREATEST! NO OTHER PIZZA STYLES CAN EXIST!" dogma.


I wish I could get all the styles here, there is NY style and generic chain style and thats it.
 
2013-05-20 05:46:25 AM

illannoyin: Fubini: St. Louis style pizza is clearly the most superior. Nothing beats provel on a matzo cracker, and you're a heretic if your pizza slices have three sides.

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BTW: the picture you're using of St. Louis is old. Still has Busch Stadium II.
 
2013-05-20 05:49:53 AM

Oldiron_79: mjohnson71: illannoyin: Fubini: St. Louis style pizza is clearly the most superior. Nothing beats provel on a matzo cracker, and you're a heretic if your pizza slices have three sides.

[i.imgur.com image 624x368]

[i.imgur.com image 625x445]

[i.imgur.com image 624x412]

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[i.imgur.com image 623x410]

As a St. Louisan I love all types of pizza. St. Louis style. Detroit style. Chicago style. New York style. Neopolitan. whatever it may be. I'm just glad to live in a city where I can get most of those and people are accepting of all pizza styles.

I've never under stood the whole "THE PIZZA STYLE I LIKE IS THE GREATEST! NO OTHER PIZZA STYLES CAN EXIST!" dogma.

I wish I could get all the styles here, there is NY style and generic chain style and thats it.


The only thing we can't find here is Detroit style.

Plus you can get deep dish here in St. Louis (Black Thorn, Lemmons, Pi) but it's not exactly Chicago style. I think if Giordano's opened down here they'd be a success.
 
2013-05-20 05:59:02 AM

Begoggle: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 225x225]

Tune in tomorrow for one of:

cereals of the past
candy bars of the past
cartoons of the past
toys of the past
sodas of the past
Pizza - Chicago or New York
favorite beers
Some company made a typo on a bill (ie. millions of dollars for phone bill)
Soda or Pop


Next up, clinchers or tubulars, and are Tufo tubular clinchers a sign of the end times?
 
2013-05-20 06:09:35 AM
One time I was in London and there was a pizza on the menu with a couple of sunny side up eggs sitting on top. Whoa.
 
2013-05-20 06:13:10 AM

Erebus1954: One time I was in London and there was a pizza on the menu with a couple of sunny side up eggs sitting on top. Whoa.


I've been meaning to make that one soon. Eggs, bacon, Parmesan, maybe some fresh arugula. No sauce, some olive oil and freshly cracked pepper. Maybe some porcini. Yum!
 
2013-05-20 06:28:48 AM
Lol,  a pizza flavored pot-pie isn't anything new.  That's several thousand years old.
 
2013-05-20 06:39:05 AM

Erebus1954: One time I was in London and there was a pizza on the menu with a couple of sunny side up eggs sitting on top. Whoa.


Pizza Fiorentina.  Were they fried eggs placed on top?  Usually you crack an egg on top and then cook the pizza.
 
2013-05-20 06:40:28 AM
The best pizza I've ever had was in Positano, Italy. My favorite in the states is New Haven area: BAR, Olde World, Sally's, Modern, etc.

We're going to San Diego in October. Any recommendations?
 
2013-05-20 06:44:36 AM
I like the seattle areas wood fired pizza myself.  http://www.therockwfp.com great pizza, great atmosphere and delicious craft beer. Nothing wrong with any of these things.
 
2013-05-20 06:48:12 AM
Green curry and shrimp pizza from a little cafe in krabi Thailand. The pizza of my dreams. Never had such a great pie. I don't know how they make it so well there. I have never come close to replicating it in my kitchen.
 
2013-05-20 06:54:15 AM
I love everything about pizza.  Except that abortion they make in Chicago.

/ Actually building a rolling woodfired pizza oven for the backyard right now ... pretty stoked about that.
 
2013-05-20 06:55:50 AM

tripleseven: Chicago doesn't make pizza, it makes cake, with shiat on top of it.


It's more like a cracker cut into squares  with stuff on it .
 
2013-05-20 07:00:08 AM

optikeye: Bumblefark: New York style pizza is awful -- a two-dimensional parody of what ought to be a satisfying meal.

If you have to fold it over, just to convince yourself that you're biting into something more substantial than air, you might as well be eating a photograph of food.

1/10


It's not trolling if it's true
 
2013-05-20 07:30:08 AM

I like that each city has its own take on pizza.


I like both Chicago and NYC styles. They can both be very tasty when done well.


I still have a soft-spot for the Buffalo-style pizza I grew up with.  Meaning the style of pizza served in Buffalo, NY, not pizza with spicy chicken on it.


www.buffalochow.com

 
2013-05-20 07:32:35 AM
Pizza can be had in Italy. Only. Everything else may have its good points and bad points but no pizza is like Italian pizza. End of story.
 
2013-05-20 07:40:22 AM

Doc Daneeka: I like that each city has its own take on pizza.
I like both Chicago and NYC styles. They can both be very tasty when done well.
I still have a soft-spot for the Buffalo-style pizza I grew up with.  Meaning the style of pizza served in Buffalo, NY, not pizza with spicy chicken on it.
[www.buffalochow.com image 600x450]


I am mortally offended by that picture.  If anybody had the temerity to present me with half a pizza I would be too distraught for words.
 
2013-05-20 07:40:33 AM

EngineerAU: Relatively Obscure: Sum Guye: casserole.

And there we go.


/the Groundhog Day of threads.

Well, it's not as if it's not true. Most Chicago pizza is a big gloppy mess. The much less known Chicago thin crust pizza is pretty good but it isn't what most "Chicago style pizza" restaurants serve. If your pizza is deep enough for Olympic divers to practice in, then it really should be called a casserole or Sarlacc pit rather than pizza.


You'll slowly digest it for a... thousand years.
 
2013-05-20 07:43:26 AM

rabidarmadillo24: The only thing on this list that matters is Neapolitan style pizza. Compared to that, NY and Chicago style are absolute crap, with their preservative laden ingredients. I currently live in Napoli, and love going to my local take-out place, because the people making it have actually gone to a pizzaioli school to learn their trade. Watching the pizza cook for 90 seconds in a blazing hot wood fired oven is truly sublime. Also, using fresh ingredients is important. Fresh buffalo mozzarella from the Campania region, fresh tomatoes grown on Vesuvius, and some local basel, and you have yourself the best pizza ever.


lh3.googleusercontent.com
Can I get an Amen?
 
2013-05-20 07:48:39 AM

The Envoy: Doc Daneeka: I like that each city has its own take on pizza.
I like both Chicago and NYC styles. They can both be very tasty when done well.
I still have a soft-spot for the Buffalo-style pizza I grew up with.  Meaning the style of pizza served in Buffalo, NY, not pizza with spicy chicken on it.
[www.buffalochow.com image 600x450]

I am mortally offended by that picture.  If anybody had the temerity to present me with half a pizza I would be too distraught for words.


Sorry.  Here you go.  Notice that Buffalo does pepperoni differently than other places.

cdn.localeats.com
 
2013-05-20 07:50:47 AM

Doc Daneeka: Meaning the style of pizza served in Buffalo, NY, not pizza with spicy chicken on it.


mmmmmm Bocce Club mmmmmmmm

Or the fact that damn near every corner has a pizza joint that sells amazing pizza.. diPaulos, and Ginos where I grew up...


As for everyone else...

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2013-05-20 07:55:49 AM

potterydove: List fails without detroit style.


I had pizza from jets last night, that is some freaking good pizza.
 
2013-05-20 08:02:22 AM

Doc Daneeka: The Envoy: Doc Daneeka: I like that each city has its own take on pizza.
I like both Chicago and NYC styles. They can both be very tasty when done well.
I still have a soft-spot for the Buffalo-style pizza I grew up with.  Meaning the style of pizza served in Buffalo, NY, not pizza with spicy chicken on it.
[www.buffalochow.com image 600x450]

I am mortally offended by that picture.  If anybody had the temerity to present me with half a pizza I would be too distraught for words.

Sorry.  Here you go.  Notice that Buffalo does pepperoni differently than other places.

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MUCH better.  That pizza looks delicious and very similar to the more expensive ones we get in supermarkets over here, just a lot more generous with the pepperoni.  What's different about it?  It looks how I'd expect it to look.  I would eat that whole thing right now.
 
2013-05-20 08:05:30 AM
"Chicago style" takes the Italian word for "pie" kind of literally.

An old friend, a transplant from Boston, opened a successful enterprise in Chicago serving "New Haven style" pizza, which I had never heard of:
http://www.piecechicago.com/

/You're welcome, Billy.
 
2013-05-20 08:08:32 AM
Didn't we just have one of these last week?  And the week before that?
 
2013-05-20 08:11:59 AM

bifford: There's a heck of a lot of difference between the pizzas you get form chains like Domino's or Pizza Hut and the ones you get from small mom-and-pop Italian restaurants.  The latter are thinner.  And of course better.


I'm no fan of chain pizza, at least not around here.  But I gotta say, some mom-and-pops ALSO make shiatty pizza...

Glad I live in the delivery radius of a decent one.
 
2013-05-20 08:13:42 AM

phartman: Pizza can be had in Italy. Only. Everything else may have its good points and bad points but no pizza is like Italian pizza. End of story.


Maybe it's changed, but that was NOT the case when I was there twenty years ago...
 
2013-05-20 08:20:02 AM
slice.seriouseats.com
 
2013-05-20 08:20:51 AM
I learned recently that there is such a thing as Ohio style pizza

That's like a thing, and I have to tell you that its the most nasty abomination to happen to pizza ever.
 
2013-05-20 08:24:20 AM

NewportBarGuy: Chicago-style pizza is just another level of Dante's Inferno. Utter abomination. The end of days are upon us.


The list mentions Pizza Hut as a great moment in pizza history, and THIS is what offends you?!?
 
2013-05-20 08:25:51 AM
I REALLY miss those Papa Gino's slices, a local chain up in Boston area, and wish they'd push their franchises down south to the DC area. There's just something about the sauce... Speaking of which, Ocean City, MD has "Pinos Pizza", which is fun to say and not half bad.
 
2013-05-20 08:30:01 AM
Chicago doesn't have pizza.  They have pizza flavored cake.  It's tasty but not Pizza.
 
2013-05-20 08:30:41 AM
apizza from New Haven rules. that's all
 
2013-05-20 08:30:43 AM
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2013-05-20 08:32:48 AM
Why the fark is "gluten free" on that list? That's not a significant moment in pizza history. One might argue that gluten free dough is a significant moment in food for broken people moments, but not pizza.
 
2013-05-20 08:51:43 AM

bilgemaster: I REALLY miss those Papa Gino's slices, a local chain up in Boston area, and wish they'd push their franchises down south to the DC area. There's just something about the sauce


I haven't been to a Papa Gino's in... god, probably over 20 years, but you nailed it. Their sauce is what I remember most of all. Delicious.  That and how each booth at the restaurant had it's own personal jukebox.

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2013-05-20 09:00:08 AM

phartman: Pizza can be had in Italy Greece. Only. Everything else may have its good points and bad points but no pizza is like Grecian pizza. End of story.


Italian isn't the original. Greek is. Italians just added tomato sauce.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:29 AM
I'll give Chicago props for their hot dogs, but for pizza? Not so much. When I want pizza,
I want pizza - not quiche with marinara sauce on it.
 
2013-05-20 09:16:39 AM
"Isn't it amazing, that the religion pizza in which you were indoctrinated into for the first 18 years of your life just happens to be the correct one? How lucky each one of you are."
 
2013-05-20 09:18:09 AM
Being in NY, we have one Uno even remotely close to us. My kids spotted it one day while we were driving and asked if we could go there because, basically, we never go there. I guess it was intriguing to them.

The why soon became apparent. They got their pizza and were immediately confused.

"What is that?", they asked...

"It's a Chicago style 'pizza'." I said.

"That's not pizza."

They liked it o.k.,they're teenagers...they eat,  they just don't consider it pizza.

My eldest has dubbed Chicago style "pizza" pizzania.
 
2013-05-20 09:22:19 AM
Pizza:
1) new york style - thin, cut in wedges, yummy
2) detroit pan - thickish - squares - yummy
3) chicago thin - thicker than NYS - cut in 2"x2" squares - yummy
4) chicago thick - connies/unos style - thick and dough - yummy
5) chicago thick - lou malnati style - thick and solid (butter crusty) - yummy
6) chicago stuffed - cheese pie with sauce on top - yummy
7) other variants

tada
guess what
NO one in the universe cares what you think of something that you dont like.
I love all pizza. They have their place.
 
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