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2013-05-19 06:17:19 PM
Great, great, Grandma?
 
2013-05-19 06:55:01 PM
#11.  Peter Falk.  With Beard.
 
2013-05-19 06:55:05 PM

Kenny B: Great, great, Grandma?


I didn't think she was that great but whatever floats your boat.
 
2013-05-19 06:57:28 PM
Is it just me, or does this man's head appear to be too big for his body?
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2013-05-19 07:08:34 PM
Dude robbed his dealer.


15. William Smith stole money and some scales in 1873 and was ordered to do two months in jail.s3-ec.buzzfed.com
 
2013-05-19 07:58:21 PM
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Four months for stealing ale? How long does he get for sacking Winterfell?
 
2013-05-19 09:32:49 PM
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I know a narcoleptic cab driver that looks just like this guy
 
2013-05-19 09:42:07 PM
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2013-05-19 11:10:34 PM
14. Twenty-year-old William Badger was sentenced to six months for stealing a watch.

I wonder if he blamed the girl with the black velvet band?
 
2013-05-19 11:53:13 PM
Who knew police were profiling midgets back in the day.
 
2013-05-20 12:07:09 AM
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2013-05-20 12:25:56 AM
Now if only they had stolen some chicken ale!

No, really, look it up, there is a recipe.
 
2013-05-20 01:39:11 AM
Where are the mugshots of the Robber Barons?

Oh, right.

Of course.
 
2013-05-20 01:42:34 AM

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Four months for stealing ale? How long does he get for sacking Winterfell?


Hah hah hah!

Now ale theft, that's my kind of crime.
 
2013-05-20 01:43:21 AM
Those are some hard 14 and 15 years
 
2013-05-20 01:44:03 AM
Awful lot of people stealing clothes and bedsheets back then.  Looking at what they were wearing, I'm not surprised.

And yet, none were caught stealing soap.
 
2013-05-20 01:45:32 AM
Man... sentencing back in the day was all over the board.

/spin the wheel, Raggedy Man
 
2013-05-20 01:45:49 AM
NOT... of the Robber Barons ...
 
2013-05-20 01:48:17 AM
Helloooo !
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2013-05-20 01:50:41 AM

HotWingAgenda: Awful lot of people stealing clothes and bedsheets back then.  Looking at what they were wearing, I'm not surprised.

And yet, none were caught stealing soap.


They were probably stolen from either their employers, or their neighbors.  The girls are the right age to be employed as housekeepers for families of slightly better means, while the boys are about the right age to be employed as grooms, stablehands, and basic cleaners for a tradesman or shopkeeper.  Considering the value of fabric at the time, plus the costs involved in making clothing/bedding/shoes, they were costing their victims serious money. It's not like they swiped a T-shirt from Wal-mart.
 
2013-05-20 01:52:00 AM
I can think of some kids who would benefit from a week or two of hard labor.  These days, if you take away their cell phone as a punishment, they act like you want to shave their head and brand them.
 
2013-05-20 01:52:40 AM
I call  Shenanigans .
11 and 13 are the same guy.
In pic 11 he looks hung over.
 
2013-05-20 01:53:51 AM
I was helping dad transcribe a muster list from the Seminole Wars last week and we kept coming across cousins of ours and the men they had later killed in drunken fights.
/history helps explain so much...
 
2013-05-20 01:55:05 AM

Khazar-Khum: HotWingAgenda: Awful lot of people stealing clothes and bedsheets back then.  Looking at what they were wearing, I'm not surprised.

And yet, none were caught stealing soap.

They were probably stolen from either their employers, or their neighbors.  The girls are the right age to be employed as housekeepers for families of slightly better means, while the boys are about the right age to be employed as grooms, stablehands, and basic cleaners for a tradesman or shopkeeper.  Considering the value of fabric at the time, plus the costs involved in making clothing/bedding/shoes, they were costing their victims serious money. It's not like they swiped a T-shirt from Wal-mart.


People wondered why stealing a horse often resulted in a hanging.  It was because a horse was often a family's livelihood.  Without the horse, they couldn't plow the field, which meant they could starve.  We are so used to modern conveniences that we fail to understand how expensive and hard to get some things could be 100 years ago.
 
2013-05-20 02:03:09 AM
The ones busted for theft of something like ale and chicken probably couldnt pay thier bar tab.
 
2013-05-20 02:09:43 AM

OgreMagi: Khazar-Khum: HotWingAgenda: Awful lot of people stealing clothes and bedsheets back then.  Looking at what they were wearing, I'm not surprised.

And yet, none were caught stealing soap.

They were probably stolen from either their employers, or their neighbors.  The girls are the right age to be employed as housekeepers for families of slightly better means, while the boys are about the right age to be employed as grooms, stablehands, and basic cleaners for a tradesman or shopkeeper.  Considering the value of fabric at the time, plus the costs involved in making clothing/bedding/shoes, they were costing their victims serious money. It's not like they swiped a T-shirt from Wal-mart.

People wondered why stealing a horse often resulted in a hanging.  It was because a horse was often a family's livelihood.  Without the horse, they couldn't plow the field, which meant they could starve.  We are so used to modern conveniences that we fail to understand how expensive and hard to get some things could be 100 years ago.


Well round these parts horse theft wasnt a hanging offense, but it would get you 50 lashes with a bull hwip and branded with a hot iron and apparantly wasnt considered cruel and unusual by late 1700s standards.
 
2013-05-20 02:10:28 AM
Sad photos.
 
2013-05-20 02:13:24 AM

Khazar-Khum: Considering the value of fabric at the time, plus the costs involved in making clothing/bedding/shoes, they were costing their victims serious money.


Not really.  Clothes weren't Walmart cheap, but neither were they luxury good either.  Cloth production was the engine that drove the Industrial Revolution, and by the 1870s, they were churning the stuff out pretty steadily.  For example, English cotton goods production was so large - and so cheap - that Bengal's native cloth industry totally collapsed, even as it was producing cotton for England.  It was cheaper to transport the cotton to England, turn it into clothes, and then transport those clothes back to Bengal, rather than trundle the cotton down the road.  And the British were systematically tax-raping the Bengali population at the same time, so these are not people awash in cash who are buying these clothes.

Sentencing was most likely fueled by "the lesser orders must be punish'ed for their crimes because they are of inferior stock, and only a sound thrashing can inform their weak minds, constitutions, and moral fiber"
 
2013-05-20 02:21:41 AM
Nice sentences. It would be nice for America to learn some leniency like that.
 
2013-05-20 02:22:10 AM
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2013-05-20 02:31:11 AM
At the young age of 14, Henry Miller was charged with the theft of clothing and sentenced to 14 days of hard labor for his crime.

www.rebellesociety.com

Well, he turned out OK I guess
 
2013-05-20 02:46:23 AM
Notice that those arrested for poultry theft are middle-aged women. Something to consider is that while chicken theft may seem hilariously bizarre to many people now, these were very likely poverty-driven crimes and these people were just attempting to feed their families.
 
2013-05-20 02:59:47 AM
I don't know when in history it was, but there was a time when clothing and linen were the most expensive items a family owned, except for property.
What struck me is how many of these people may have stolen for necessities (food, clothing) rather than the common pattern today of stealing what you want for recreational drugs, and other "wants".
 
2013-05-20 03:14:21 AM
so i'm kinda surprised that a gold watch was only one month more than linen for sentencing.....
 
2013-05-20 03:14:48 AM

gregscott: I don't know when in history it was, but there was a time when clothing and linen were the most expensive items a family owned, except for property.
What struck me is how many of these people may have stolen for necessities (food, clothing) rather than the common pattern today of stealing what you want for recreational drugs, and other "wants".


That would be before the Industrial Revolution got up and going full-steam (which was well before 1870)
 
2013-05-20 03:16:01 AM

Oldiron_79: OgreMagi: Khazar-Khum: HotWingAgenda: Awful lot of people stealing clothes and bedsheets back then.  Looking at what they were wearing, I'm not surprised.

And yet, none were caught stealing soap.

They were probably stolen from either their employers, or their neighbors.  The girls are the right age to be employed as housekeepers for families of slightly better means, while the boys are about the right age to be employed as grooms, stablehands, and basic cleaners for a tradesman or shopkeeper.  Considering the value of fabric at the time, plus the costs involved in making clothing/bedding/shoes, they were costing their victims serious money. It's not like they swiped a T-shirt from Wal-mart.

People wondered why stealing a horse often resulted in a hanging.  It was because a horse was often a family's livelihood.  Without the horse, they couldn't plow the field, which meant they could starve.  We are so used to modern conveniences that we fail to understand how expensive and hard to get some things could be 100 years ago.

Well round these parts horse theft wasnt a hanging offense, but it would get you 50 lashes with a bull hwip and branded with a hot iron and apparantly wasnt considered cruel and unusual by late 1700s standards.


Same punishment should be adopted for car theft. Far cheaper than prison.
 
2013-05-20 03:17:13 AM

bearded clamorer: [s3-ec.buzzfed.com image 442x628]

I know a narcoleptic cab driver that looks just like this guy


oh lord.... a narcoleptic cab driver.... how many time has he fallen asleep at the wheel?!
 
2013-05-20 03:19:49 AM
I know I hate to be the one to point this out... don't they seem a bit... white?
 
2013-05-20 03:22:06 AM

People_are_Idiots: I know I hate to be the one to point this out... don't they seem a bit... white?


Less blacks back in the day, we'd more or less solved the injun problem by then, and mexicans weren't yet flooding the border.
 
2013-05-20 03:40:21 AM

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First thing I thought of...
Saw it for a moment and went "Rufus??".
 
2013-05-20 03:43:16 AM

gregscott: I don't know when in history it was, but there was a time when clothing and linen were the most expensive items a family owned, except for property.
What struck me is how many of these people may have stolen for necessities (food, clothing) rather than the common pattern today of stealing what you want for recreational drugs, and other "wants".


If you think "recreational" drugs are a "want" try withdrawl sometimes.

Most, if not all of the negative side of meth and crack cocaine addiction is simply because it's illegal. If it were legal, it would be like all the housewives who get hooked on oxys after surgery and have to be weened off, never missing a day of work.
 
2013-05-20 03:53:53 AM
I'm not sure whether these sentences are harsher or less harsh than today. Everybody goes to prison or gets hard labor, sure, but mostly it's over and done with pretty quickly. 14 days, 2 months, etc. Now they would probably all get a year of probation and a nasty fine. I think 14 days or a month is better than a long probation.

I'd have to know more details, but it certainly seems (mostly) very fair, more so than today.
 
2013-05-20 04:02:18 AM

gregscott: I don't know when in history it was, but there was a time when clothing and linen were the most expensive items a family owned, except for property.
What struck me is how many of these people may have stolen for necessities (food, clothing) rather than the common pattern today of stealing what you want for recreational drugs, and other "wants".


That's because these people could buy recreational drugs in the store for dirt cheap, unlike today. Tincture of opium, tincture of cannabis, cocaine, etc., over the counter, available everywhere. Those that had gardens probably grew poppies, it was something everyone needed and so everyone had it. Not something they tell you very often in history class.

If weed cost what it's really worth today, with a free market and no extreme taxes, it would be about where tobacco is. That is to say, $10 an ounce. Would ANYONE steal for a $10 ounce? Opium/opiates and coca/cocaine are the same way - they are agricultural products that should be cheap. We would probably end up with a "drug problem" again in that more people would take them (like they did in the 1800's), but we would not have a "drug problem" in that people would be stealing, mugging people, or killing people over drugs.
 
2013-05-20 04:07:32 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Is it just me, or does this man's head appear to be too big for his body?
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He could be a carny. They've got small hands.

They smell like cabbage, too.
 
2013-05-20 04:10:44 AM
Is the "hand pose" the "duck face" of yesterday????
 
2013-05-20 04:20:15 AM

People_are_Idiots: I know I hate to be the one to point this out... don't they seem a bit... white?


Worse than that, they seem Irish. Papist brutes, ready to steal their grandma's linens for a bottle.
 
2013-05-20 04:22:29 AM

baka-san: Now if only they had stolen some chicken ale!

No, really, look it up


No.
 
2013-05-20 04:28:41 AM

People_are_Idiots: I know I hate to be the one to point this out... don't they seem a bit... white?


The few non-white people resident in the north of England in the 1870s were all very well behaved.
 
2013-05-20 04:30:36 AM

People_are_Idiots: I know I hate to be the one to point this out... don't they seem a bit... white?


I'm sure black criminals back then were punished separate but equally.
 
2013-05-20 04:43:46 AM

People_are_Idiots: I know I hate to be the one to point this out... don't they seem a bit... white?


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"Can we get out of here? All these guns and white people are making me nervous."
"Will you ease off with that white people stuff! You got me lookin' at 'em funny."
 
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