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(Cartoon Brew)   Disney tries to copyright "Día de los Muertos" (aka the Mexican Day of the Dead, which is a popular holiday in Mexico). More than a few Mexicans are upset with this   (cartoonbrew.com) divider line 63
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2013-05-19 03:30:32 PM  
Subby doesn't know the difference between copyright and trademark even though its in the first sentence of the TFA, LOL!
 
2013-05-19 03:49:21 PM  
This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?
 
2013-05-19 03:56:33 PM  
Senior Chang is not amused
 
2013-05-19 03:57:56 PM  
Does this mean a Grim Fandango 2?
 
2013-05-19 03:58:33 PM  
Venture Bros did it.
 
2013-05-19 04:00:26 PM  

Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?


Good think they filed for a trademarke on the title of a film instead.
 
2013-05-19 04:01:35 PM  

Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?


They can trademark anything they're allowed to get away with trademarking.
 
2013-05-19 04:03:19 PM  
If not for the drug cartels, Disney could probably buy all of Mexico
 
2013-05-19 04:04:16 PM  
Walt Disney having problems with cultural insensitivity?  Can't be true, they have a long track record of well considered, socially conscious, movie making.


static.tvtropes.org
 
2013-05-19 04:04:23 PM  

Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?


You're talking about a company that made "Hercules", the film that depicted the major figures of one religion as caricatures and gave a Greek demi-god a friggin' sidekick, and turned "The Princess and the Frog" into "Song of the South 2: Electric Boogaloo".

Disney doesn't give a rat's rancid rectum about "culture", especially if it can not only make a buck from stomping on it, but somehow own enough elements to sue the culture itself for trademark or copyright violations.
 
2013-05-19 04:06:16 PM  
We care about the opinions of Mexicans now?
 
2013-05-19 04:06:24 PM  

remus: Walt Disney having problems with cultural insensitivity?  Can't be true, they have a long track record of well considered, socially conscious, movie making.

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Exactly - and while that mess is an egregious example, it's definitely not their only example. So many of their films either rewrite history or stomp on a culture that it's hard to take any apology Disney issues seriously. They apologize, and then run out their very next cringe-inducing flick.
 
2013-05-19 04:06:47 PM  

Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?


They can't. What they can try to do is trademark a written expression. It won't work, of course, if that expression is already in popular use.

I doubt it would work for film titles either. There's already a "Day Of The Dead" from 1985, and "El día de los muertos" from 2007.
 
2013-05-19 04:09:25 PM  
So... Día de las Marcas?
 
2013-05-19 04:09:50 PM  
Really?

Goofy must be off his meds again.
 
2013-05-19 04:10:25 PM  

cyberspacedout: Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?

They can't. What they can try to do is trademark a written expression. It won't work, of course, if that expression is already in popular use.

I doubt it would work for film titles either. There's already a "Day Of The Dead" from 1985, and "El día de los muertos" from 2007.


If anyone could pull it off, it's Disney

/heck, they get copyright extensions passed all the time
 
2013-05-19 04:11:44 PM  

ShawnDoc: Subby doesn't know the difference between copyright and trademark even though its in the first sentence of the TFA, LOL!


ShawnDoc dosen't know what TFA means LOL
 
2013-05-19 04:16:25 PM  

remus: Walt Disney having problems with cultural insensitivity?  Can't be true, they have a long track record of well considered, socially conscious, movie making.


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1946.  SotS originally opened in 1946.
 
2013-05-19 04:18:39 PM  
R.I.P. Speedy
venturebrosblog.com
 
2013-05-19 04:19:47 PM  
Subby fails reading comprehension, also Disney dropped their plans to register the urls and apply for ownership of this phrase a couple of weeks ago.  Old news is useless.  Cartoon Brew is for idiots.
 
2013-05-19 04:21:22 PM  
Fark the House of Mouse. Steamboat Willie should be public domain.
 
2013-05-19 04:25:28 PM  
Disney : now with more adorable cheap day-glo skull products for white hipster children to add to their collection.
 
2013-05-19 04:31:16 PM  

Burr: Does this mean a Grim Fandango 2?


I wish it were a Grim Fandango movie. Promotional art for the movie looks an awful lot like Grim Fandango (which makes sense), but as far as I can tell it's unrelated.
 
2013-05-19 04:31:30 PM  

cyberspacedout: They can't. What they can try to do is trademark a written expression. It won't work, of course, if that expression is already in popular use.

I doubt it would work for film titles either. There's already a "Day Of The Dead" from 1985, and "El día de los muertos" from 2007.


Well first, it is basically impossible to trademark the title to a work such as a book or movie alone.  However, it is possible to trademark such a title if it can be shown that (1) it is the title of a series of works (see Harry Potter, Star Wars, etc) (2) you are actually trademarking the title in respect o associated materials such as toys, clothing and other merch.

Of course to do this you would have to show strong association by consumers with the chosen mark and the producer of these products.  It is also therefore likely that Disney would never have gotten a broad mark on the term DIA DE LOS MUERTOS, but may have gotten a narrow logo mark ("i.e. the movie title's font, see, e.g.: images.wikia.com or a narrow wordmark, such as DISNEY'S DIA DE LOS MUERTOS")

In other words, this is more a story about people not having any clue about IP law and Disney thus blundering into a PR issue than any actual story.

TL:DR:
i1.kym-cdn.com
TRADEMARK DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
 
2013-05-19 04:32:08 PM  
www.capsulecomputers.com.au


/approves, since LucasArts was purchased (and shuttered) by Disney
 
2013-05-19 04:42:21 PM  

Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?


The Mouse God will not be denied.
 
2013-05-19 05:00:17 PM  

ox45tallboy: purchased (and shuttered)


Which is why I will never pay for anything Disney related again.  My uncle worked for LucasArts back in the day, in fact he is in the credits of most of the early games.  Disney destroyed an icon.
 
2013-05-19 05:04:00 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: ox45tallboy: purchased (and shuttered)

Which is why I will never pay for anything Disney related again.  My uncle worked for LucasArts back in the day, in fact he is in the credits of most of the early games.  Disney destroyed an icon.


Ha. LucasArts has been putting out crap since the millennium started. If anyone killed it, it was Lucas and his shiatty prequels.
 
2013-05-19 05:04:44 PM  
Not news.   This was already dropped when people got upset a few weeks ago.
 
2013-05-19 05:05:35 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Which is why I will never pay for anything Disney related again. My uncle worked for LucasArts back in the day, in fact he is in the credits of most of the early games. Disney destroyed an icon.


Well to be fair, Lucasarts did a great job in destroying an icon.  Disney just shot the zombie in the head and buried the remains.
 
2013-05-19 05:14:17 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Which is why I will never pay for anything Disney related again.  My uncle worked for LucasArts back in the day, in fact he is in the credits of most of the early games.  Disney destroyed an icon.


Many people may disagree with my opinion here, but I can sort of understand Disney's way of thinking. LucasArts made some of the best games imaginable in the early and mid 90's, but the medium changed. The artistic creativity of the employees was bound to the medium of point-and-click games, which simply weren't as amazing anymore when everything shifted to 3D. Those few IP's that successfully made the transition to 3D (for example, Duke Nukem, and I'm not talking about Forever) did so by completely changing their franchise in order to bring in a whole new slew of fans

X-Wing v. Tie Fighter was great, but Lucas decided to focus on the marketing and stuff for the prequels, in order to bring in a whole new slew of younger fans, rather than continuing development on things associated with the first movies.

Above all, though, from a strictly business perspective, there is more money and less headache to be had from licensing IP than from developing it in-house.
 
2013-05-19 05:21:51 PM  
Disney said they dropped the trademark thingy.
 
2013-05-19 05:22:45 PM  
You know, they've already trademarked the shape of the water molecule...
 
2013-05-19 05:24:16 PM  
F*ck that, I'm copyrighting Christmas.
 
2013-05-19 05:43:36 PM  
i.imgur.com

Problem?
 
2013-05-19 06:10:45 PM  
theurge14 You know that film was done by Disney @ the behest of the Feds to keep South America anti-Nazi(til mid-1945 @ least)
I think Dick Tracy's sidekick 'Go-Go Gomez' offers an inspiring portrait of Hispanic characters & Law Enforcement:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-19 06:12:39 PM  
They'll get my folklorico costume and sugar-skull mask when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

/ironic
 
2013-05-19 06:16:35 PM  

Burr: Does this mean a Grim Fandango 2?


CCame to ask if Manny Calavera could solve this.
 
2013-05-19 06:20:43 PM  

ox45tallboy: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Which is why I will never pay for anything Disney related again.  My uncle worked for LucasArts back in the day, in fact he is in the credits of most of the early games.  Disney destroyed an icon.

Many people may disagree with my opinion here, but I can sort of understand Disney's way of thinking. LucasArts made some of the best games imaginable in the early and mid 90's, but the medium changed. The artistic creativity of the employees was bound to the medium of point-and-click games, which simply weren't as amazing anymore when everything shifted to 3D. Those few IP's that successfully made the transition to 3D (for example, Duke Nukem, and I'm not talking about Forever) did so by completely changing their franchise in order to bring in a whole new slew of fans

X-Wing v. Tie Fighter was great, but Lucas decided to focus on the marketing and stuff for the prequels, in order to bring in a whole new slew of younger fans, rather than continuing development on things associated with the first movies.

Above all, though, from a strictly business perspective, there is more money and less headache to be had from licensing IP than from developing it in-house.


So where is my mission pack prequel to x-wing with republic fighters?
 
2013-05-19 06:25:44 PM  

Mega Steve: If not for the drug cartels, Disney could probably buy all of Mexico


Did you know that Disney has the 3rd largest navy in the world? how do you think the drugs get into the country? Study it out.
 
2013-05-19 06:26:31 PM  

Walker: F*ck that, I'm copyrighting Christmas.


I'll take "Halloween," aka "All Hallow's 'een" aka "Day of the Dead."

/we can discuss a corporate merger later
 
2013-05-19 06:28:57 PM  
The public domain has been Disney's favorite whorehouse for so long is it any surprise that by now they think they can just go balls deep on the piano player without asking?
 
2013-05-19 06:40:16 PM  

FormlessOne: Apos: This has to be a joke, right? How the hell can a corporation trademark a centuries-old cultural tradition?

You're talking about a company that made "Hercules", the film that depicted the major figures of one religion as caricatures and gave a Greek demi-god a friggin' sidekick, and turned "The Princess and the Frog" into "Song of the South 2: Electric Boogaloo".

Disney doesn't give a rat's rancid rectum about "culture", especially if it can not only make a buck from stomping on it, but somehow own enough elements to sue the culture itself for trademark or copyright violations.


Iolaus would like a word with you
 
2013-05-19 07:20:29 PM  

Walker: F*ck that, I'm copyrighting Christmas.


www.chud.com
HA HA! Too late!
 
2013-05-19 07:23:25 PM  
As long as they keep selling those "churros" at their parks, they can copyright whatever they want.
 
2013-05-19 07:48:58 PM  

WhippingBoy: As long as they keep selling those "churros" at their parks, they can copyright whatever they want.


As long as Boma is open... or Dole Whips... or those "turkey legs"... or School Bread at Norway-Epcot... or... etc

Food there is good.  $$$ but good
 
2013-05-19 07:53:18 PM  
Are they releasing a movie named Day of the Dead, and are covering their bases for its release south of the border as Dia de los Meurtos?  If so, George Romero and the production company for Dawn of the Dead should should sue Disney for trademark infringement for making a movie with too similar of a title. After all, it's not a stretch, entirely likely in fact, that people with think the Disney movie is a sequel to Dawn of the Dead.
 
2013-05-19 08:05:43 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: We care about the opinions of Mexicans now?


We have ever since their culture became a source of additional holidays to sell beer and stuff. Remember once upon a time the Irish were considered lower than slaves. Then we discovered they had a holiday we could use as an excuse to get drunk and piss behind a dumpster and suddenly being Irish was a good thing. That's why Muslims aren't likely to ever be fully accepted in American culture... they don't have a drinking holiday.
 
2013-05-19 08:12:51 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Walker: F*ck that, I'm copyrighting Christmas.

[www.chud.com image 450x277]
HA HA! Too late!


CHRISTMAS 2!!!!
 
2013-05-19 08:48:37 PM  

Walker: F*ck that, I'm copyrighting Christmas.


I'm copyrighting the Winter Solstice and suing you claiming that your copyright is an illegal derivative of my copyright
 
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