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2013-05-19 03:23:10 PM
Sorry.  I'm not sure I understand the idea of spending money  trying to convert people to Atheism.  What is that they are trying to accomplish?

Are they trying to create a more hedonistic socie...

Oh wait.  I guess I answered my own question.  Carry on.  Send them money.
 
2013-05-19 03:30:15 PM
Meh... just leave the bible. Christians don't read it anyway. They just remember the parts cherry-picked for them by their preacher man.

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
Isaac Asimov
 
2013-05-19 03:36:56 PM
Grumpy Cat: "GOOD"
 
2013-05-19 03:37:00 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Sorry.  I'm not sure I understand the idea of spending money  trying to convert people to Atheism.  What is that they are trying to accomplish?


I doubt that they're trying to "convert" people to atheism.  Religious people are going to keep believing what they believe.  Rather, they're pointing out that if the state is going to let one group proselytize, they have to let everyone do it.  Governor Deal is either going to have to anger his constituents by allowing atheist literature (and Muslim, and Hindu, and Buddhist, and Wiccan, and Satanist...'cause you know everyone's going to jump on this) or he's going to anger his constituents by taking all of the propaganda out, including the Protestant Christian propaganda.  He has shot himself in the foot here; no matter what he does, his constituents will be pissed.

With any luck, other elected officials will learn that Christian propaganda does not get special privileges; either everyone gets to proselytize on public property, or no one does, and maybe politicians will finally learn to keep the preaching in church, where it belongs.
 
2013-05-19 03:38:57 PM
"any group is free to donate literature. "
startheory.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-19 03:43:26 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: "any group is free to donate literature. "
[startheory.files.wordpress.com image 318x320]


Hey guys - anyone got a hard copy of The Gay Agenda we could copy and donate?

Also - why don't we at Fark come up with a Farkological tract for these peckerwoods?
 
2013-05-19 03:48:43 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: "any group is free to donate literature. "
[startheory.files.wordpress.com image 318x320]


Wow, man, I wouldn't want that in my browser cache.

/Wait, wut?
 
2013-05-19 03:51:56 PM
I wonder what sort of literature? It would be difficult to be more teeth-gratingly, nerve-shreddingly annoying than your average evangelical religious tract... but if anyone's up to the task, it's the evangelical atheists.

/atheist, just the wrong kind
//they'll explain
///whether you want them to or not
 
2013-05-19 03:57:38 PM

semiotix: I wonder what sort of literature? It would be difficult to be more teeth-gratingly, nerve-shreddingly annoying than your average evangelical religious tract... but if anyone's up to the task, it's the evangelical atheists.

/atheist, just the wrong kind
//they'll explain
///whether you want them to or not


If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!
 
2013-05-19 04:06:03 PM

zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!


I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.

Which will promptly go missing, or more likely be photogenically vandalized, and then we'll be at Phase II.
 
2013-05-19 04:06:54 PM
Soon there won't be room in the cabin to sleep.
 
2013-05-19 04:09:00 PM
Good on the governor, but what happens when an Islamic group wants to drop in a copy of the Koran?

/if Christians are so doubtful of their faith that a rented room without a bible in it will shake their belief, maybe they should just carry a bible with them wherever they go
//Christian, doesn't care if there's a bible in the room or not.  Don't really look.
 
2013-05-19 04:09:39 PM

semiotix: zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!

I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.

Which will promptly go missing, or more likely be photogenically vandalized, and then we'll be at Phase II.


The Comfy Chair?
 
2013-05-19 04:11:20 PM
Is there a "sacred text" for Pastafarians?  This could become a rather epic troll-fest.  Encourage every single off-the-wall niche religion to donate something.  Rastafarian, Jedi, whatever.

If the Governor wants to claim that the state is being non-judgemental and equal-opportunity to any organization that donates material, he'll have to allow all of them, because his argument falls apart completely if he doesn't.
 
2013-05-19 04:15:25 PM
you folks had better be careful or else God is going to get pissed off.
 
2013-05-19 04:17:39 PM
I seem to remember staying in hotel rooms in the past that had copies of the Book of Mormon in them, though they probably had a Bible as well.  I can't say I ever read either - if I was on vacation the last thing I wanted to do was read scripture.

It doesn't offend me if groups want to donate Bibles to cabins, nor does it offend me if other religious groups want to done their own texts or if atheists want to donate books explaining their own philosophy.

Logistically speaking perhaps it needs to be capped at one book per group or else we have the issue of cabins becoming overrun with books that few camper will ever read, but I'm all for the spread of knowledge - whoever wants to donate books to spread their message should be free to do it.
 
2013-05-19 04:17:39 PM
I saw this story on TV while in Atlanta and was wondering if anyone was going to troll the State Parks over this decision.

I thought it was a pretty stupid thing to get wound up about myself.
 
2013-05-19 04:17:42 PM
If you want to  really troll Christians, don't use atheist books.  You use books on Hermeticism.
 
2013-05-19 04:20:02 PM

Linux_Yes: you folks had better be careful or else God is going to get pissed off.


Probably. Ummmm... which one?
 
2013-05-19 04:21:30 PM
"American Atheists does not believe the State of Georgia should be placing Bibles or atheist books in state park cabins; however, if the state is going to allow such distribution, we will happily provide our materials," said President David Silverman.

[okaywiththis]
 
2013-05-19 04:24:16 PM

I_Am_Weasel: Sorry.  I'm not sure I understand the idea of spending money  trying to convert people to Atheism.  What is that they are trying to accomplish?

Are they trying to create a more hedonistic socie...

Oh wait.  I guess I answered my own question.  Carry on.  Send them money.


Ideally they'd not spend money on any of the books, bible included. That's the true goal of this stuff, to get the people to say "hey, maybe we should just not proselytize via these avenues."
But you're right on the second part, the rise of atheism would likely lead civilization ending and devolving into pagan orgies.

In other news, I didn't know there were Mexican atheists. I figured that there was a symbiotic Catholicism virus attached to them that would prove fatal if severed.
 
2013-05-19 04:24:36 PM

quatchi: "American Atheists does not believe the State of Georgia should be placing Bibles or atheist books in state park cabins; however, if the state is going to allow such distribution, we will happily provide our materials," said President David Silverman.

[okaywiththis]


It's not the state putting it in these cabins, it's the Guideons right?

/Rocky Raccoon starts playing in his head
 
2013-05-19 04:25:28 PM
An atheist would see a bible and just ignore it. A Christian would see an atheist book and get mad, throw it away and scream that Christians are getting picked on and complain that only his beliefs should be acknowledged.
 
2013-05-19 04:26:10 PM
Yeah, books about "not collecting stamps".  And fark atheists say that atheism isn't a religion.
 
2013-05-19 04:27:30 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Yeah, books about "not collecting stamps".  And fark atheists say that atheism isn't a religion.


Atheism is not a religion. Any claim that atheism is a religion is a lie. Any individual claiming atheism to be a religion is a liar.
 
2013-05-19 04:27:33 PM
So you find God in a hotel room where there's a Bible, and lose God in a cabin surrounded by nature.
 
2013-05-19 04:28:29 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Yeah, books about "not collecting stamps".  And fark atheists say that atheism isn't a religion.


No, books about how the wickedness of wishful thinking is both hurting the country and is unconstitutional.
 
2013-05-19 04:28:37 PM

neppyman: Is there a "sacred text" for Pastafarians?  This could become a rather epic troll-fest.  Encourage every single off-the-wall niche religion to donate something.  Rastafarian, Jedi, whatever.

If the Governor wants to claim that the state is being non-judgemental and equal-opportunity to any organization that donates material, he'll have to allow all of them, because his argument falls apart completely if he doesn't.


I'd like to find a copy of "the joy of Saks", documenting the history of upscale clothing for divorced women.
 
2013-05-19 04:29:36 PM

semiotix: I wonder what sort of literature? It would be difficult to be more teeth-gratingly, nerve-shreddingly annoying than your average evangelical religious tract... but if anyone's up to the task, it's the evangelical atheists.

/atheist, just the wrong kind
//they'll explain
///whether you want them to or not


Hey, it's not proselytizing when they do it!
 
2013-05-19 04:33:34 PM

zamboni: Meh... just leave the bible. Christians don't read it anyway. They just remember the parts cherry-picked for them by their preacher man.

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
Isaac Asimov


I personally like having it in the dresser at hotels.  Sometimes I get it out and take in a few pages, when I've forgotten my rolling papers at home.
 
2013-05-19 04:34:45 PM

Empty Matchbook: semiotix: I wonder what sort of literature? It would be difficult to be more teeth-gratingly, nerve-shreddingly annoying than your average evangelical religious tract... but if anyone's up to the task, it's the evangelical atheists.

/atheist, just the wrong kind
//they'll explain
///whether you want them to or not

Hey, it's not proselytizing when they do it!


There's nothing wrong with proselytizing...unless it's done by the government.
 
2013-05-19 04:35:30 PM
semiotix: zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!

I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.


What the fark is wrong with any of these?  Please, tell me.  I've been trying to get an answer other than "they're atheists" or "they're pompous" or "they're Islamophobic" for quite some time, especially from other atheists, but I never get anything.

/Meanwhile, I myself think P.Z. Myers is truly hurting the name of atheism with this "Any atheists who are not down with misandrist feminism aren't really atheists" bullshiat he's pulling, but no one else ever mentions that.
 
2013-05-19 04:39:03 PM

IlGreven: semiotix: zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!

I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.

What the fark is wrong with any of these?  Please, tell me.  I've been trying to get an answer other than "they're atheists" or "they're pompous" or "they're Islamophobic" for quite some time, especially from other atheists, but I never get anything.

/Meanwhile, I myself think P.Z. Myers is truly hurting the name of atheism with this "Any atheists who are not down with misandrist feminism aren't really atheists" bullshiat he's pulling, but no one else ever mentions that.


I'll mention it.  Myers and the rest of the Atheist+ crazies are insane and dogmatic with their insane dogma.
 
2013-05-19 04:41:41 PM

zamboni: Meh... just leave the bible. Christians don't read it anyway. They just remember the parts cherry-picked for them by their preacher man.

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
Isaac Asimov


It's fine by me if it's one of the translations that doesn't water down the salacious bits. Having handy erotica conveniently stored next to a bed isn't such a bad idea.

FloydA: With any luck, other elected officials will learn that Christian propaganda does not get special privileges; either everyone gets to proselytize on public property, or no one does, and maybe politicians will finally learn to keep the preaching in church, where it belongs.


This is also a good idea. I really wish more religious folks would realize that the only real way to protect their own freedom of religion is a solid separation of church and state. Oh, and being tolerant of people with different beliefs would be nice as well. That isn't to say that all religious people are necessarily intolerant, but fundamentalism is an inherently toxic approach to religion and it's kind of scary that fundies are taken seriously by politicians in this country.

On the other hand, maybe fundie Christians praying for the end times might find common ground with some other religious groups. Cthulhu cultists, for example. Want to bring about the end of the world? A Bible and Necronomicon in every hotel room!
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2013-05-19 04:41:48 PM

Mrtraveler01: It's not the state putting it in these cabins, it's the Guideons right?


When I was a kid and first encountered a Gideon Bible in a hotel room on a family vacation thingy I imagined they were like Leprechauns who went around unseen putting these bibles everywhere. To this day my head count of Gideons and Leprechauns remains deadlocked at zero apiece and yet according to wiki they've distributed over 1.7 billion bibles since their inception so they have to be out there somewhere.

/Rocky Raccoon starts playing in his head

Great earworm. It just replaced the No Doubt tune I had leftover in my head from that derpy American Stinker link abomination so thanks.

ftfa: Books to be donated include "Why I Am Not A Muslim," by Ibn Warraq, "Why I Am An Atheist" by Madalyn Murray O'Hair, "god is not Great," by Christopher Hitchens, and "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

I would be much more inclined to maybe read these books if I were to stumble upon them in a rented cabin on vakay than a Bible.

/Well "re-read" in most cases there but why quibble?

I wonder how many of these will actually be read versus being defaced or destroyed by petulant thumpers
 
2013-05-19 04:43:10 PM

IlGreven: semiotix: zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!

I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.

What the fark is wrong with any of these?  Please, tell me.  I've been trying to get an answer other than "they're atheists" or "they're pompous" or "they're Islamophobic" for quite some time, especially from other atheists, but I never get anything.

/Meanwhile, I myself think P.Z. Myers is truly hurting the name of atheism with this "Any atheists who are not down with misandrist feminism aren't really atheists" bullshiat he's pulling, but no one else ever mentions that.


It's the pompous part that really bugs me.  When they claim that it's an atheist's duty to mock the religious, I have a problem with that.  If you don't want to believe in God, great, don't believe.  If you do want to believe, great, believe.

If you want to create writings explaining your position, hold meetings where people are welcome to come and learn more, and make resources available to explain your position, awesome, more power to you.  You become a dick the moment you start insulting, mocking, or otherwise pestering others about their beliefs though.  I hold equal disdain for the atheists who feel the need to approach people to try to dissuade them from religion as I do the evangelicals who go door to door trying to persuade people to join their particular belief system.  Let people be and let them make their own choices, and everyone wins.
 
2013-05-19 04:47:34 PM

God-is-a-Taco: I_Am_Weasel: Sorry.  I'm not sure I understand the idea of spending money  trying to convert people to Atheism.  What is that they are trying to accomplish?

Are they trying to create a more hedonistic socie...

Oh wait.  I guess I answered my own question.  Carry on.  Send them money.

Ideally they'd not spend money on any of the books, bible included. That's the true goal of this stuff, to get the people to say "hey, maybe we should just not proselytize via these avenues."
But you're right on the second part, the rise of atheism would likely lead civilization ending and devolving into pagan orgies.

In other news, I didn't know there were Mexican atheists. I figured that there was a symbiotic Catholicism virus attached to them that would prove fatal if severed.


It's called the descolada.

/obscure?
 
2013-05-19 04:49:39 PM

ArgusRun: /obscure?


Not if they decide to make the sequel.  Not nearly as much action, though - so I kind of doubt it.  Piggies would be... kinda strange.
 
2013-05-19 04:57:44 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Yeah, books about "not collecting stamps".


"Why Do Most People Collect Stamps?"

"So You Lost Your Job Because You Don't Collect Stamps"

"Stamp Collection Is Not A Substitute for Medicine"

And a newspaper articles from this world:

"Saudi Man Burned Alive After Expressing Disinterest In Rare Stamp Variant"

"My wife likes sports stamps, but I only collect planes. Is she going to hell? Dr. Linda answers"

"Stampish ritual where cleric smears stamp glue onto newborn's genitals and licks it off somehow non-controversial- 'it's tradition' says insane mother"
 
2013-05-19 04:59:36 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Yeah, books about "not collecting stamps".  And fark atheists say that atheism isn't a religion.


Well, fark you, too.
 
2013-05-19 05:03:01 PM

kingoomieiii: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Yeah, books about "not collecting stamps".

"Why Do Most People Collect Stamps?"

"So You Lost Your Job Because You Don't Collect Stamps"

"Stamp Collection Is Not A Substitute for Medicine"

And a newspaper articles from this world:

"Saudi Man Burned Alive After Expressing Disinterest In Rare Stamp Variant"

"My wife likes sports stamps, but I only collect planes. Is she going to hell? Dr. Linda answers"

"Stampish ritual where cleric smears stamp glue onto newborn's genitals and licks it off somehow non-controversial- 'it's tradition' says insane mother"


i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-19 05:07:11 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: And fark atheists say that atheism isn't a religion.


In case you don't get my point, no, it's not a religion. It's a support group for dealing with all the bullshiat reasonable people are put through in a world run by crazy people. You know, people who will cut off all contact with family members who don't want to hand their child to an undercover pedophile to be dunked. People who will decapitate their daughters and sisters because they were getting dangerously independent and risked 'shaming' their families by finding their own happiness. People who think it's dangerous to teach kids about the actual, natural world as we understand it because it happens to conflict with an old book they're really fond of.
 
2013-05-19 05:08:32 PM

zamboni: Linux_Yes: you folks had better be careful or else God is going to get pissed off.

Probably. Ummmm... which one?



i don't know.  i'm Agnostic.   lol   got ya!
 
2013-05-19 05:30:41 PM

quatchi: Mrtraveler01: It's not the state putting it in these cabins, it's the Guideons right?

When I was a kid and first encountered a Gideon Bible in a hotel room on a family vacation thingy I imagined they were like Leprechauns who went around unseen putting these bibles everywhere. To this day my head count of Gideons and Leprechauns remains deadlocked at zero apiece and yet according to wiki they've distributed over 1.7 billion bibles since their inception so they have to be out there somewhere.

/Rocky Raccoon starts playing in his head

Great earworm. It just replaced the No Doubt tune I had leftover in my head from that derpy American Stinker link abomination so thanks.

ftfa: Books to be donated include "Why I Am Not A Muslim," by Ibn Warraq, "Why I Am An Atheist" by Madalyn Murray O'Hair, "god is not Great," by Christopher Hitchens, and "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

I would be much more inclined to maybe read these books if I were to stumble upon them in a rented cabin on vakay than a Bible.

/Well "re-read" in most cases there but why quibble?

I wonder how many of these will actually be read versus being defaced or destroyed by petulant thumpers


api.ning.com

The most effective way to preach to the unconverted is to teach them about their own religion. These would be a much more effective way.

25.media.tumblr.com

Then again fundies gonna fundie.
 
2013-05-19 05:43:28 PM

wiseolddude: An atheist would see a bible and just ignore it. A Christian would see an atheist book and get mad, throw it away and scream that Christians are getting picked on and complain that only his beliefs should be acknowledged.


Ooh ooh! Now tell us what a pollack would do!  Those guys are so hilarious.
 
2013-05-19 05:48:35 PM
Go ahead, place other theological texts in the cabins. The 'Thou Shall Not Steal' crowd will promptly steal them and claim they have no idea where they went. Since it's a cabin in the woods, maybe a bear will witness it.
 
2013-05-19 05:56:17 PM

TuteTibiImperes: IlGreven: semiotix: zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!

I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.

What the fark is wrong with any of these?  Please, tell me.  I've been trying to get an answer other than "they're atheists" or "they're pompous" or "they're Islamophobic" for quite some time, especially from other atheists, but I never get anything.

/Meanwhile, I myself think P.Z. Myers is truly hurting the name of atheism with this "Any atheists who are not down with misandrist feminism aren't really atheists" bullshiat he's pulling, but no one else ever mentions that.

It's the pompous part that really bugs me.  When they claim that it's an atheist's duty to mock the religious, I have a problem with that.  If you don't want to believe in God, great, don't believe.  If you do want to believe, great, believe.

If you want to create writings explaining your position, hold meetings where people are welcome to come and learn more, and make resources available to explain your position, awesome, more power to you.  You become a dick the moment you start insulting, mocking, or otherwise pestering others about their beliefs though.  I hold equal disdain for the atheists who feel the need to approach people to try to dissuade them from religion as I do the evangelicals who go door to door trying to persuade people to join their particular belief system.  Let people be and let them make their own choices, and everyone wins.


...the problem is, the scales are already so far unbalanced in one direction, when you try to apply "equal" criticism to both, you come off as defending religion to someone who's an atheist.  See Glenn Greenwald's criticisms of Harris & Dawkins' "Islamophobia" for simply doing to Islam what they do to Christianity.  And the kicker to that is, whenever a Christian hears that sort of thing, they say "Oh, but I bet you're too chicken to say that to a Muslim!"

In short, trying to be a "moderate" in a debate where the opinion is skewed in one direction makes the "moderate" unconsciously biased towards the status quo.  It's just like in school, when the bully pummels a kid, and the kid gets punished either for trying to fight back (Dawkins, et al) or simply "being in a fight".  Not all fights are equal. Stop treating them like they are.
 
2013-05-19 06:11:58 PM

enry: Good on the governor, but what happens when an Islamic group wants to drop in a copy of the Koran?


Suddenly all religious books are banned from hotels.
 
2013-05-19 06:16:08 PM

IlGreven: TuteTibiImperes: IlGreven: semiotix: zamboni: If only there were something one could read. An article, perhaps, that might explain such things. And if Fark was feeling especially generous they could, oh what's that word... link, yes... link to it!

I did eventually work up the courage to click on the link, and it was as bad as I'd feared. Hitchens, Dawkins, O'Hair... all they're missing is some P.Z. Myers and Sam Harris, and they'll have the whole catechism.

What the fark is wrong with any of these?  Please, tell me.  I've been trying to get an answer other than "they're atheists" or "they're pompous" or "they're Islamophobic" for quite some time, especially from other atheists, but I never get anything.

/Meanwhile, I myself think P.Z. Myers is truly hurting the name of atheism with this "Any atheists who are not down with misandrist feminism aren't really atheists" bullshiat he's pulling, but no one else ever mentions that.

It's the pompous part that really bugs me.  When they claim that it's an atheist's duty to mock the religious, I have a problem with that.  If you don't want to believe in God, great, don't believe.  If you do want to believe, great, believe.

If you want to create writings explaining your position, hold meetings where people are welcome to come and learn more, and make resources available to explain your position, awesome, more power to you.  You become a dick the moment you start insulting, mocking, or otherwise pestering others about their beliefs though.  I hold equal disdain for the atheists who feel the need to approach people to try to dissuade them from religion as I do the evangelicals who go door to door trying to persuade people to join their particular belief system.  Let people be and let them make their own choices, and everyone wins.

...the problem is, the scales are already so far unbalanced in one direction, when you try to apply "equal" criticism to both, you come off as defending religion to someone who's an atheist.  See ...


My point is that there shouldn't even be a fight to begin with.  Fighting for the separation of church and state is one thing, fighting against religion in general is another.  You don't have to be an atheist to agree that the government should not sponsor religion, and the arguments against the government sponsorship of religion should stem from the fact the our constitution forbids it and lays out the right of every citizen to practice whatever religion they wish (or no religion if they so choose).  Attacking the government sponsorship of religion on the grounds that you don't believe in religion is missing the point - you're free to believe that, and the same constitution that gives you that right also gives those who do believe the right to practice as they see fit.

If atheists take umbrage at religious groups actively trying to convert others, they should take the high road and abstain from that behavior themselves.
 
2013-05-19 06:19:24 PM

wiseolddude: An atheist would see a bible and just ignore it. A Christian would see an atheist book and get mad, throw it away and scream that Christians are getting picked on and complain that only his beliefs should be acknowledged.


A radical Atheist would make up imaginary situations and pretend they were real.
Ever consider that most folks on the road who need a hotel room, even Christians, just want to go to sleep?
/back to your regularly scheduled anti-Theist outrage
 
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