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(Stabley Times)   Congress finally agrees on something: Google Glass creeps them out   (stableytimes.com) divider line 17
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2013-05-19 04:01:14 PM
4 votes:
If that were an Apple product, they'd be rubbing one out to pictures of the thing, desperately praying that Saint Jobs would descend from iHeaven and give them a set.
2013-05-20 12:13:53 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: I have a right to know when I'm being recorded-- WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO RECORD ME.


Actually, NO YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHEN YOU ARE BEING RECORDED.  Now, there are some legal protections that you do have (for example, if you are the primary object within a picture someone can not use your likeness without your permission for something like an advertisement), but you really have no right to privacy when you are out in PUBLIC.  So, if I am a photography buff and see you sitting on a bench I can take your picture all day long and I am under no obligation to come up to you and tell you so.
2013-05-20 02:21:53 AM
1 votes:

hamdinger: If that were an Apple product, they'd be rubbing one out to pictures of the thing, desperately praying that Saint Jobs would descend from iHeaven and give them a set.


That gets a meh, you might get some bites but yeah it just comes over as trying to hard. 

ZeroCorpse: Or whatever it takes to make it clear that having that  thing  on your head, pointed at me, is going to be a bad idea.


Look.  I explained this in at least two different Glass threads to you knuckle dragger's and I guess you still don't understand.   It has a microphone and a video camera.  It heard you, in your voice, tell it to do that.  It saw you telling it to do those things and it recorded both for posterity.

So now your boss has not only the message you told that person's Glass to send to everyone but a follow up which has the video and audio of you doing it and not the person wearing the thing.

Perhaps instead of attempting to be the internet tough guy (and failing quite miserably at it I might add) you should do what any other worker drone will do:  send a shiatty little e-mail to HR complaining about the persons gadget.  So at least that way they've written proof your a delusional paranoid.
2013-05-19 09:59:55 PM
1 votes:

PapaChester: All I read here is a bunch of whiners who think that they are so important that everyone in the world will be dying to spy on them.

You ants are not worth it.


Google's profits suggest otherwise.
2013-05-19 09:32:29 PM
1 votes:

ParanoidAgnostic: What is with the violent hatred people have for Google Glass? Is it just because Apple didn't 'invent' it?

A wearable computer with a heads-up-display is an amazingly cool concept and I can't wait to own one (Either Glass or a, hopefully, less ugly design). The internet is one of the best things humanity ever did and enabling a constant connection with it is inevitable and awesome.


That would be a "no" for me. I work for one of Apple's competitors, and we have a very good relationship with Android.

This is about my ability to know when someone is uploading my image to the Internet and Google's databases. I have a right to avoid such things, and with GG my ability to avoid it becomes harder-- Almost impossible, if it catches on and everyone has one.

I love the Internet, and I'm in the consumer electronics business... I just don't see how anyone can NOT understand how much Google Glass will be widely abused to cause serious breaches of privacy.
2013-05-19 09:19:14 PM
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: What is it with you and these things? Every thread it's you going batshiat over them.

Here's the scenario you constantly outline: It's you, going about your business with nobody having a fark to give about who you are or what you're doing. Then you see a pair of these things, and choose to go completely lose your shiat...thereby drawing the attention of everyone around with a cellphone who instantly busts those out, records you being a jagoff, and throws it on You Tube with the touch of a button. For someone so adverse to being recorded, you seem hellbent on creating scenarios where that's going to happen.


I share a similar distrust of them, I'm not even really that concerned with what people themselves are going to use them for its the company that's supplying them where my apprehension comes from.  Even if you don't own a pair you will be dragged into Google's vast database and profiling any time someone who does comes in range, only this time its got your face to match up with everything else it can read off of you like bluetooth devices and anything wireless you've got.  Its more then just another wireless device with a camera, its one with a camera that's always at head level and always passively operating (yah, always).  Google does everything it can to grab everything it can about you and everyone you interact with, they are definitely a company I do not trust when it comes to pushing out this hardware.  I would not trust them with a laptop, definitely not a cell phone and really no way am I paying money to buy a dual-camera devices that's spending as much time watching me as it is everything I do, from Google.

Back to the camera and comparison to existing surveillance:  Its a little different when its at street level right there with you and its all feeding back to the same company, and that company has set enough precedents about freely rifling through anything you transmit or store within their services as routine and to be expected.
2013-05-19 09:17:51 PM
1 votes:

lewismarktwo: Well, this is similar to freaking out about printable guns when it is far simpler and cheaper to just buy a real gun on the black market.  MUCH better spy glasses and tech already exist and are far less obvious.  This is simply a non issue.

http://www.gadgetsandgear.com/spy-glasses-hidden-camera-eyeglasses.h tm l


1. The printed guns can go through metal detectors. That's the problem. Not the issue of being able to make a homemade gun.

2. Spy glasses and other such equipment are not tied into your Google account, can't upload images or video instantly, can't Google search or Image search people while you're looking at them, and have limited storage as opposed to a device that can keep uploading to the cloud indefinitely. They also tend to have wires, bulky packs, or rely on a transmitter and a receiver somewhere. With the glasses you linked, you store locally on 8gb of flash storage, and then you have to get it to a computer to upload it. That takes time. With Google Glass, you record, and BOOM, moments later it can go right to the Internet where it will live forever.

It's like the difference between:
A. Stabbing someone with a knife (normal cell phone or camera).
B. Shooting someone with a concealed one-shot pistol (the spy glasses).
C. Wearing a bomb under your jacket with a visible hand-trigger (Google Glass).

With A and B, there's prep time, reload time, and with A, the obviousness of it. People can avoid it, prevent the worst damage, and even stop you after you've used it.

With C, it might  be obvious you have it, but if you decide to use it nobody will have time to avoid it, and it will do way more damage that will be far more difficult to heal.
2013-05-19 09:08:06 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: When I see dorks walking around in public wearing Google Glass, I'm going to run up to them and say "OK Glass, Google 'lemon party'." or  "OK Glass, send message to 'office': 'I hate this job and plan to fart in your lunch.'"

Or whatever it takes to make it clear that having that  thing  on your head, pointed at me, is going to be a bad idea.


What is it with you and these things?  Every thread it's you going batshiat over them.

Here's the scenario you constantly outline:  It's you, going about your business with nobody having a fark to give about who you are or what you're doing.  Then you see a pair of these things, and choose to go completely lose your shiat...thereby drawing the attention of everyone around with a cellphone who instantly busts those out, records you being a jagoff, and throws it on You Tube with the touch of a button.  For someone so adverse to being recorded, you seem hellbent on creating scenarios where that's going to happen.
2013-05-19 09:06:30 PM
1 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: At least with Google Glass you know you're on camera.  Not so with discrete recorders disguised as pens and whatnot.


The difference is that discrete recorders are JUST recorders. Glass lets you record and upload to the Internet in a few seconds. Once it's on the Internet, it's there forever.

But you're right. If someone is facing me with one of these things on his head, I'm going to avoid him. I think people who wear Google Glass should get used to being ostracized and remaining uninvited to most gatherings, because nobody's going to want your creepy voyeur goggles around.
2013-05-19 07:54:32 PM
1 votes:
Well, this is similar to freaking out about printable guns when it is far simpler and cheaper to just buy a real gun on the black market.  MUCH better spy glasses and tech already exist and are far less obvious.  This is simply a non issue.

http://www.gadgetsandgear.com/spy-glasses-hidden-camera-eyeglasses.h tm l
2013-05-19 07:02:28 PM
1 votes:

Vangor: More my concern is why are we suddenly scared of Google Glasses when we've seen how ubiquitous cameras have become. What is fundamentally different about Google Glasses which requires targeting this device itself rather than this being the device which makes us all aware how too ubiquitous cameras have become and requiring some push back?


This is what I don't get either.

Camera phone:  No indicator light noting that it is recording.  The video quality these days is absurdly good, they can zoom, etc.  Essentially all the functionality of a camcorder; however, they're everywhere so nobody thinks twice about seeing one.  You could use one to record people all day long and they would be none the wiser.

Google Glasses:  They're planted on your face, and require you to look directly at the subject to record them.

I suspect the sudden freakout has a lot to do with the fact Google is putting them out and if it were, say, Apple instead you'd be hearing a lot of the same complaints just from a different group of people.

It's probably worth noting none of us still have any idea what the actual production release of these things will have in terms of an indicator light, etc.
2013-05-19 06:39:54 PM
1 votes:

Vangor: Not seeing what the great big deal is about Google Glasses in terms of privacy. Everyone has a cell phone with a camera on, anymore, and those come out any moment something slightly different or social in nature begins. Not as though the glasses are clandestine spy devices, either, but rather obvious.

Facial recognition? Eh. Sorry, but being recognized is not something defended by privacy rights in public.


Meanwhile at Google, the company built upon harvesting as much information as they can semi-legally get away with...
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2013-05-19 05:41:28 PM
1 votes:
Old news : "okay poop is coming out"

New news : "Yo, you really gotta see this shiat!"
2013-05-19 05:29:30 PM
1 votes:
Not seeing what the great big deal is about Google Glasses in terms of privacy. Everyone has a cell phone with a camera on, anymore, and those come out any moment something slightly different or social in nature begins. Not as though the glasses are clandestine spy devices, either, but rather obvious.

Facial recognition? Eh. Sorry, but being recognized is not something defended by privacy rights in public.
2013-05-19 05:01:35 PM
1 votes:
I don't get this or the "ads are too loud" consensus. Aren't republicans supposed to back businesses no matter what? Or do they need their lunch bought first?
2013-05-19 04:35:49 PM
1 votes:
Imagine how freaked out they'll be when we eventually don't even need the glasses. I hope I'm still around to see that.
2013-05-19 03:55:13 PM
1 votes:
This is only the beginning.  You cannot stop it.
 
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