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2013-05-19 03:59:03 PM
Grow Hemp for the war
 
2013-05-19 04:02:04 PM
When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.
 
2013-05-19 04:02:05 PM
That's the free market in action. How's it compare to the heavily regulated market? ;)
 
2013-05-19 04:04:55 PM

born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.


I'm a non-smoker and I don't think it should be criminalized (at least not to the extent it is now)

/not sure it'll live up to the hype the smokers say it will
 
2013-05-19 04:05:17 PM

born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.


Damn right.
 
2013-05-19 04:05:33 PM
I'm curious to see what legalization in WA and CO do to domestic prices here in BC. I would guess that they would drop, given that everyone west of the Mississippi will be able to access legal supplies and won't have to resort to smuggled BC bud, creating a possible glut locally of pot that was intended to be shipped south but instead has no market left in the USA.
 
2013-05-19 04:05:55 PM
Tomorrow's headline: "Feds Raid 60-Acre Pot Plantation"
 
2013-05-19 04:07:43 PM

born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.


Fine.  But do it in a state where pot is still illegal. The cannabis growers of Colorado don't need a whole bunch of industrial hemp pollen wafting in the breezes.
 
2013-05-19 04:08:31 PM
It's a bit stiff to knit with, but anything you make gets softer and cozier the more often it's washed.

/Lives in NoCo. Shop Local!
 
2013-05-19 04:08:58 PM
Nice place to hide cannabis.
 
2013-05-19 04:09:45 PM

Stone Meadow: Tomorrow's headline: "Feds Raid 60-Acre Pot Plantation"


False headline is false.
 
2013-05-19 04:09:46 PM
"Doonesbury" has been having fun with this theme.

/and don't start dissin' the Doones, now

//we go way back
 
2013-05-19 04:11:50 PM
You can have your cake shirt and eat smoke it too.
 
2013-05-19 04:14:05 PM

sloshed_again: Nice place to hide cannabis.


¿Es usted Mexicano? ¿Que le gusta semillas y mota débil?
 
2013-05-19 04:15:40 PM
NIL?  some dummy will try to steal some and smoke it.
 
2013-05-19 04:17:27 PM
This is only goning to stop sensible, sober people:
www.slchemp.com
This farmer is going to be chasing people out of his farm, big time
 
2013-05-19 04:19:50 PM

SevenizGud: Stone Meadow: Tomorrow's headline: "Feds Raid 60-Acre Pot Plantation"

False headline is false.


Well, sure it is...but to the Feds "hemp" is a distinction without a difference.
 
2013-05-19 04:19:52 PM
About time.
 
2013-05-19 04:20:26 PM

born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.


Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?
 
2013-05-19 04:23:49 PM

Stone Meadow: Well, sure it is...but to the Feds "hemp" is a distinction without a difference


The Feds have better things to do than to go head to head in a state rights issue at this point.

There are plenty of states where hemp is still illegal they can go play in anyway.
 
2013-05-19 04:24:49 PM
Clothing more durable, and without the shrinkage of cotton for one...
 
2013-05-19 04:29:00 PM

Stone Meadow: Tomorrow's headline: "Feds Raid 60-Acre Pot Plantation

with Five Hundred Million Dollar Street Value

Moar truthiness.
 
2013-05-19 04:29:00 PM

Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?


Are we talking cheaper?
 
2013-05-19 04:29:19 PM
Pfft, #1 crop is corn because without corn there are no Cheetos and Funyuns, and without cheetos and funyuns there is no point to weed.
 
2013-05-19 04:29:28 PM

Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?


Paint makers can return to using hempseed oil. The law forcing manufacturers to Changing from hempseed oil based paint to lead based paint was a horribly bad decision that still effects us today.

Hempseed oil can also be used in cars, etc. making disposal of old oil easier and less dangerous to the environment.

Paper can be made from hemp plants instead of having to cut down trees.
 
2013-05-19 04:29:37 PM
The outdoor pot growers are going to be PISSED when hemp starts cross-pollinating their crop.

Good job, hippies.
 
2013-05-19 04:29:57 PM

hardinparamedic: Stone Meadow: Well, sure it is...but to the Feds "hemp" is a distinction without a difference

The Feds have better things to do than to go head to head in a state rights issue at this point.

There are plenty of states where hemp is still illegal they can go play in anyway.


I'd love to be wrong. It's just that I remember when "going after medical marijuana users in compliance with State law is not a good use of our resources".
 
2013-05-19 04:32:18 PM

detritus: The outdoor pot growers are going to be PISSED when hemp starts cross-pollinating their crop.

Good job, hippies.


It's all about the indo' these days
 
2013-05-19 04:35:08 PM

HempHead: Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

Paint makers can return to using hempseed oil. The law forcing manufacturers to Changing from hempseed oil based paint to lead based paint was a horribly bad decision that still effects us today.

Hempseed oil can also be used in cars, etc. making disposal of old oil easier and less dangerous to the environment.

Paper can be made from hemp plants instead of having to cut down trees.


Paint: Will they actually do it? You may not know this, but nobody uses lead in paint anymore. We have latex now which is a pretty biatchin' product. Will hemp paint be better/cheaper?

Cars: again, will anyone do it? Would hemp oil be superior? Would it work in modern cars?

Paper: You may also not know this, but trees are farmed for paper these days.

I could be wrong but I kind of doubt hemp would revolutionize any industry at this point.
 
2013-05-19 04:36:46 PM

Jument: HempHead: Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

Paint makers can return to using hempseed oil. The law forcing manufacturers to Changing from hempseed oil based paint to lead based paint was a horribly bad decision that still effects us today.

Hempseed oil can also be used in cars, etc. making disposal of old oil easier and less dangerous to the environment.

Paper can be made from hemp plants instead of having to cut down trees.

Paint: Will they actually do it? You may not know this, but nobody uses lead in paint anymore. We have latex now which is a pretty biatchin' product. Will hemp paint be better/cheaper?

Cars: again, will anyone do it? Would hemp oil be superior? Would it work in modern cars?

Paper: You may also not know this, but trees are farmed for paper these days.

I could be wrong but I kind of doubt hemp would revolutionize any industry at this point.


Actually, I wonder why we're not using Kudzu to make biodiesel.
 
2013-05-19 04:38:22 PM

Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?


Looks like it will be useful for production of composites. Why not hit wiki and learn something?
 
2013-05-19 04:39:23 PM
It's a great moneymaker... My ex-boss went to visit his family back in March. His sister had been a relatively successful attorney, and her husband was an architect for million dollar custom homes. They gave it all up to(legally) grow marijuana and are making more money than they ever were before.
 
2013-05-19 04:43:46 PM

Jument: born_yesterday:
Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize?


Paper, for one. Hemp needs like 1/4 of the real estate you would need from trees to make paper, and it does a better job of taking up CO2. It's also a product that replenishes nitrogen in the soil, so farmers and growers would probably love to use it rotationally. Right now that's basically the job of the soybean, but we grow more soybeans here than we really have any use for. Which is why soy is packed into all sorts of foods you wouldn't expect it to be, and it's why soy is one of our top exports.

Hemp oil is good for cleaning up petroleum products, as well as paints. The theory is that it would reduce some of our use of crude, while helping us dispose of the oil products we use.

It can be used for a number of other things, (fiberboard, plastics, foods, soaps, lubricants, ethanol, textiles), which may or may not catch on. I'd imagine that if and when hemp is legalized, it'll find a market in quite a few areas over time, though it's hard to say which. You're right in saying that hemp lovers exaggerate its usefulness, saying it would revolutionize EVERYTHING. But there's a bit of truth there, as well.
 
2013-05-19 04:44:10 PM

Jument: wrong but I kind of doubt hemp would revolutionize any industry at this


Ever heard of "plastic" ??????????

http://www.hempplastic.com/

korean and chinese car makers already use hemp plastics  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#Plastic_and_composite_materials

You "could" be wrong, though.  Especially when you fail to see that expensive crude oil is used to make most of the things hemp could replace easily (and more cheaply)
 
2013-05-19 04:44:36 PM

HempHead: Paint makers can return to using hempseed oil. The law forcing manufacturers to Changing from hempseed oil based paint to lead based paint was a horribly bad decision that still effects us today.


Trust a stoner to be totally confused.

Lead is used as a pigment in paint. Oil paints combine pigments with an oil carrier such as linseed or hempseed oil. Nothing prevents leaded hemp oil paint.
 
2013-05-19 04:48:52 PM

IoSaturnalia: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Fine.  But do it in a state where pot is still illegal. The cannabis growers of Colorado don't need a whole bunch of industrial hemp pollen wafting in the breezes.


Meh, wouldn't be the first time something potentially harmful was dispersed across the state via air.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-19 04:50:05 PM
This is the first sensible act of farming in centuries.

Hemp can saves America's economy.
 
2013-05-19 04:52:46 PM

HairBolus: HempHead: Paint makers can return to using hempseed oil. The law forcing manufacturers to Changing from hempseed oil based paint to lead based paint was a horribly bad decision that still effects us today.

Trust a stoner to be totally confused.

Lead is used as a pigment in paint. Oil paints combine pigments with an oil carrier such as linseed or hempseed oil. Nothing prevents leaded hemp oil paint.


Trust a cocky/arrogant internet poster to be totally outdated and wrong. 
http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2007/August/21080701.asp  

All lead paints have been banned then?

Almost. For the vast majority of uses, lead pigments have been replaced with titanium dioxide, which is so safe it's also used in food colourings as well as in sunscreen. In the EU, lead paint can now only be used for the restoration and maintenance of works of art and historical buildings. In the US, lead paint can be used in limited industrial settings, such as to coat ships hulls.
 
2013-05-19 04:56:47 PM
HempHead:
Hempseed oil can also be used in cars, etc. making disposal of old oil easier and less dangerous to the environment.

Used oil isn't disposed of, it's used to power ships and as a replacement for heating oil and in the paving of roads.  Basically, if it wasn't there, then "new" oil out of the ground would be used instead, net environmental benefit of zero.
 
2013-05-19 04:59:24 PM
crow202.org
 
2013-05-19 04:59:38 PM

Mister Peejay:   Basically, if it wasn't there, then "new" oil out of the ground would be used instead, net environmental benefit of zero.


Holy sheet are you stupid
 
2013-05-19 04:59:43 PM

hardinparamedic: Jument: HempHead: Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

Paint makers can return to using hempseed oil. The law forcing manufacturers to Changing from hempseed oil based paint to lead based paint was a horribly bad decision that still effects us today.

Hempseed oil can also be used in cars, etc. making disposal of old oil easier and less dangerous to the environment.

Paper can be made from hemp plants instead of having to cut down trees.

Paint: Will they actually do it? You may not know this, but nobody uses lead in paint anymore. We have latex now which is a pretty biatchin' product. Will hemp paint be better/cheaper?

Cars: again, will anyone do it? Would hemp oil be superior? Would it work in modern cars?

Paper: You may also not know this, but trees are farmed for paper these days.

I could be wrong but I kind of doubt hemp would revolutionize any industry at this point.

Actually, I wonder why we're not using Kudzu to make biodiesel.


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Because it's only prevalent in the deep south. We're already partly energy-dependent on a bunch of ignorant, backward, goat-raping, woman-hating, bronze age religious zealots from the middle east. What do we gain by switching our dependence to virtually the same culture in the southern states aside from shorter shipping time? You really want to make those people "Saudi-prince-level rich"?
 
2013-05-19 05:03:19 PM

soundguy: Because it's only prevalent in the deep south. We're already partly energy-dependent on a bunch of ignorant, backward, goat-raping, woman-hating, bronze age religious zealots from the middle east. What do we gain by switching our dependence to virtually the same culture in the southern states aside from shorter shipping time? You really want to make those people "Saudi-prince-level rich"?


Tell me how you really feel about Mississippi, bro.

But, seriously. Kudzu-as-biomass Diesel production could be the thing to help remedy some of the crippling poverty in the area, especially the Mississippi Delta (outside of native american reservations, it's one of the poorest areas in the US)
 
2013-05-19 05:03:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil 

Synthetic oil is a lubricant consisting of chemical compounds that are artificially made (synthesized). Synthetic lubricants can be manufactured using chemically modified petroleum components rather than whole crude oil, but can also be synthesized from other raw materials. Synthetic oil is used as a substitute for lubricant refined from petroleum when operating in extremes of temperature, because, in general, it provides superior mechanical and chemical properties than those found in traditional mineral oils. Aircraft jet engines, for example, require the use of synthetic oils, whereas aircraft piston engines do not.

/BMW owner
//aircraft engines weeeeeeeeee
 
2013-05-19 05:08:56 PM
FTFA: " they plan to make hemp oil."

Thanks a lot.

You can grow seedless pot outside if you get rid of the male pollen producers. However cannabis is wind pollinated and the pollen can travel miles (see PDF: ATMOSPHERIC TRANSPORTATION OF MARIHUANA POLLEN FROM NORTH AFRICA TO THE SOUTHWEST OF EUROPE)

Establishing a seed producing plantation will essential make large no-grow around them, or people will be forced to grow seeded pot which will make the pollen problem worse.

This is moot in areas which already have a large amount of ditch weed, but because of birds any area that allows outdoor growing will soon develop a large ditch weed problem.
 
2013-05-19 05:10:07 PM
The only kind of people who even give 2 farking shiats about hemp or any farking thing like it are people who want to justify their doobage intake.

Either man up and admit it or suck my dick. You can suck my dick either way tho.
 
2013-05-19 05:12:35 PM

hardinparamedic: soundguy: Because it's only prevalent in the deep south. We're already partly energy-dependent on a bunch of ignorant, backward, goat-raping, woman-hating, bronze age religious zealots from the middle east. What do we gain by switching our dependence to virtually the same culture in the southern states aside from shorter shipping time? You really want to make those people "Saudi-prince-level rich"?

Tell me how you really feel about Mississippi, bro.

But, seriously. Kudzu-as-biomass Diesel production could be the thing to help remedy some of the crippling poverty in the area, especially the Mississippi Delta (outside of native american reservations, it's one of the poorest areas in the US)


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I'm picturing "People of Wal-Mart" on gold-plated Hoverrounds waving bibles and screaming about gay marriage and evolution. It's a terrifying vision.
 
2013-05-19 05:12:51 PM

I Like Shiny Things: The only kind of people who even give 2 farking shiats about hemp or any farking thing like it are people who want to justify their doobage intake.

Either man up and admit it or suck my dick. You can suck my dick either way tho.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-19 05:13:58 PM

soundguy: hardinparamedic: soundguy: Because it's only prevalent in the deep south. We're already partly energy-dependent on a bunch of ignorant, backward, goat-raping, woman-hating, bronze age religious zealots from the middle east. What do we gain by switching our dependence to virtually the same culture in the southern states aside from shorter shipping time? You really want to make those people "Saudi-prince-level rich"?

Tell me how you really feel about Mississippi, bro.

But, seriously. Kudzu-as-biomass Diesel production could be the thing to help remedy some of the crippling poverty in the area, especially the Mississippi Delta (outside of native american reservations, it's one of the poorest areas in the US)

------

I'm picturing "People of Wal-Mart" on gold-plated Hoverrounds waving bibles and screaming about gay marriage and evolution. It's a terrifying vision.


Just out of curiosity, what do you think the general demographics of the Mississippi Delta are? I mean, other than drunken frat boys and Old Miss fans.
 
2013-05-19 05:20:49 PM
I do wish people would stop calling it a 'cousin' or whatever to weed, it's just a variety. Low THC hemp was specially bred in the 20th century so people couldn't get high, but traditional hemp varieties had enough THC to get stoned with. The cultivation method is also different.

Theoretically, there is nothing stopping someone from breeding a high THC plant that is also excellent for hemp. These are just varieties of the same plant like 2 types of tomato.
 
2013-05-19 05:27:55 PM

I Like Shiny Things: The only kind of people who even give 2 farking shiats about hemp or any farking thing like it are people who want to justify their doobage intake.

Either man up and admit it or suck my dick. You can suck my dick either way tho.


well, either: 0/10 or an IQ less than a common potato... not sure which.
 
2013-05-19 05:55:18 PM

Fark U: Mister Peejay:   Basically, if it wasn't there, then "new" oil out of the ground would be used instead, net environmental benefit of zero.

Holy sheet are you stupid


Perhaps I am.  Please enlighten me on how using petroleum only once instead of twice is better for the environment.
 
2013-05-19 06:03:16 PM
If hemp is of any use, why isn't there a wide array of products available made from hemp grown in other countries (where it's legal to do so)?

I think hemp is basically not useful.
 
2013-05-19 06:03:50 PM

Fark U: Jument: wrong but I kind of doubt hemp would revolutionize any industry at this

Ever heard of "plastic" ??????????

http://www.hempplastic.com/

korean and chinese car makers already use hemp plastics  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp#Plastic_and_composite_materials

You "could" be wrong, though.  Especially when you fail to see that expensive crude oil is used to make most of the things hemp could replace easily (and more cheaply)


Perhaps I'm being needlessly trolltastic (I'm stuck at work today) buy why is hemp oil so special? We can get oil out of any plant product. E.g. standard vegetable oil, olive oil, rapeseed/canola oil... also peanut oil, etc. What makes hemp oil better than any of those other options?

I read the wiki and I thought the part about the oil from a food standpoint was very interesting. The part about paper seemed also interesting, but in a fairly negative way. I think the potheads are probably overestimating the value of hemp in industry, personally. Yes you can make all sorts of things out of hemp. That doesn't necessarily mean that people will, or even that hemp is a good option. Besides, hemp is not marijuana so who really cares? It won't help legalize pot.
 
2013-05-19 06:12:16 PM

Jument: Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?


I don't know about revolutionize, but per TFA we import $500 million in hemp products.  That's $500 million that could be going towards domestic producers instead of being shipped out of the country.
 
2013-05-19 06:17:12 PM

ShawnDoc: Jument: Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

I don't know about revolutionize, but per TFA we import $500 million in hemp products.  That's $500 million that could be going towards domestic producers instead of being shipped out of the country.


Yea, but where are all these hemp products? I am suspicious of this claim, because I can't think of a single hemp product I have ever encountered in my life, apart from arts and crafts from stoners at the ren faire.
 
2013-05-19 06:17:19 PM

IoSaturnalia: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Fine.  But do it in a state where pot is still illegal. The cannabis growers of Colorado don't need a whole bunch of industrial hemp pollen wafting in the breezes.


Licensed pot growers in CO have to be indoors.

Usually the only visible indication is you'll see an old greenhouse or industrial park outside town take down its signs and put up security lights.
 
2013-05-19 06:21:56 PM

Dave and the Mission: This is only goning to stop sensible, sober people:
www.slchemp.com
This farmer is going to be chasing people out of his farm, big time



Ha! Everyone knows that's just a trick. They grow THC-free plants around the perimeters and then grow the good stuff inside of that.
That's what Pothead Pete told me, and I believe him.
 
2013-05-19 06:25:39 PM

ShawnDoc: Jument: Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

I don't know about revolutionize, but per TFA we import $500 million in hemp products.  That's $500 million that could be going towards domestic producers instead of being shipped out of the country.


We also have a lot more arable land and a more well developed agricultural industry than many other places.  Widespread cultivation of hemp in the US would likely lead to much lower prices, and thus more potential industrial uses, than imported hemp.
 
2013-05-19 06:25:54 PM

Skirl Hutsenreiter: IoSaturnalia: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Fine.  But do it in a state where pot is still illegal. The cannabis growers of Colorado don't need a whole bunch of industrial hemp pollen wafting in the breezes.

Licensed pot growers in CO have to be indoors.

Usually the only visible indication is you'll see an old greenhouse or industrial park outside town take down its signs and put up security lights.


And IIRC this is technically true for those growing for personal use, too.
 
2013-05-19 06:29:03 PM

Skirl Hutsenreiter: IoSaturnalia: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Fine.  But do it in a state where pot is still illegal. The cannabis growers of Colorado don't need a whole bunch of industrial hemp pollen wafting in the breezes.

Licensed pot growers in CO have to be indoors.

Usually the only visible indication is you'll see an old greenhouse or industrial park outside town take down its signs and put up security lights.


So who are you, the HEPA filter salesman?  Or do you think these buildings are hermetically sealed away from their environment?
 
2013-05-19 06:29:16 PM

PapaChester: This is the first sensible act of farming in centuries.

Hemp can saves America's economy.


No it can't.

It is stupid it is illegal though.
 
2013-05-19 06:29:51 PM

Mister Peejay: Fark U: Mister Peejay:   Basically, if it wasn't there, then "new" oil out of the ground would be used instead, net environmental benefit of zero.

Holy sheet are you stupid

Perhaps I am.  Please enlighten me on how using petroleum only once instead of twice is better for the environment.




Wouldn't it be better for the environment if no petroleum was used in the first place?
 
2013-05-19 06:30:11 PM

CSM101: [crow202.org image 449x191]


Still a comic ahead of its time.
 
2013-05-19 06:32:51 PM
Signed up to fark to discuss this. 11 years later it has become reality.
 
2013-05-19 06:40:21 PM

Intrepid00: PapaChester: This is the first sensible act of farming in centuries.

Hemp can saves America's economy.

No it can't.

It is stupid it is illegal though.


It is stupid to be legal.  Hemp has the ability to devastate cannabis yields and all for what?  Some fibers and oils that can all be grown more efficiently using other plants.  Smart idea - lets kill the $100MM marijuana industry just so we can have few tons of fiber.

Pot just became legal.  Lets now not throw it all away in our moment of triumph just so some smelly hippies can wear their hempen garments.
 
2013-05-19 06:46:30 PM

Dave and the Mission: This is only goning to stop sensible, sober people:

www.slchemp.com
This farmer is going to be chasing people out of his farm, big time
 
It would be quite sober and sensible to sneak in, harvest some big bags of buds, and then sell to the gullible.
 
2013-05-19 06:49:18 PM

IoSaturnalia: Intrepid00: PapaChester: This is the first sensible act of farming in centuries.

Hemp can saves America's economy.

No it can't.

It is stupid it is illegal though.

It is stupid to be legal.  Hemp has the ability to devastate cannabis yields and all for what?  Some fibers and oils that can all be grown more efficiently using other plants.  Smart idea - lets kill the $100MM marijuana industry just so we can have few tons of fiber.

Pot just became legal.  Lets now not throw it all away in our moment of triumph just so some smelly hippies can wear their hempen garments.


wow, I have to congratulate you... that is a form of derp I have never seen before (even here). I think we have to come up with a new name for it... I think I am going to have to put some thought into that.
 
2013-05-19 06:53:41 PM

IoSaturnalia: Intrepid00: PapaChester: This is the first sensible act of farming in centuries.

Hemp can saves America's economy.

No it can't.

It is stupid it is illegal though.

It is stupid to be legal.  Hemp has the ability to devastate cannabis yields and all for what?  Some fibers and oils that can all be grown more efficiently using other plants.  Smart idea - lets kill the $100MM marijuana industry just so we can have few tons of fiber.

Pot just became legal.  Lets now not throw it all away in our moment of triumph just so some smelly hippies can wear their hempen garments.


The pro-legalization (for both hemp and marijuana) people need to get on the same page.  Balkanization of marijuana supporters was one of the reasons the legalization vote failed in CA - there were growers fighting against the bill to legalize because they were afraid larger agricultural concerns would push them out of the market, so we ended up with a situation where petty greed and infighting amongst supporters of pot made it so that nobody got legal marijuana.

It needs to stop, and people need to realize that priority 1 is making it legal, and then once it is, working out the details of how the growers will be managed and minor logistics like how to deal with hemp pollen.
 
2013-05-19 06:53:54 PM
The best thing about industrial hemp is that it will pollinate the pot plants people are growing outdoors, ruining everyones outdoor grows. Even indoor growers will need pollen filters.
 
2013-05-19 07:08:26 PM

Jument: born_yesterday: When hemp takes it's rightful place in the various industrial roles it can fill, I hope that's when even non-smokers realize what a travesty it was that this plant was ever criminalized.

Yay, better rope for everyone!

Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?



How about just as good, with less water needed, less acerage needed, and less damage done to the soil?
 
2013-05-19 07:16:15 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: wow, I have to congratulate you... that is a form of derp I have never seen before (even here). I think we have to come up with a new name for it... I think I am going to have to put some thought into that.


Thanks. It's a fun position to stake out and defend - that of the anti-hemp stoner.

Ultimately, it's the hypocracy surrounding both hemp and medical MJ that gets me fired up about this issue.  People just need to admit that they like to get high and quit trying to back door it in on unjustifed claims for pot's efficacy as either a wonder drug or a super plant.
 
2013-05-19 07:30:55 PM

IoSaturnalia: HindiDiscoMonster: wow, I have to congratulate you... that is a form of derp I have never seen before (even here). I think we have to come up with a new name for it... I think I am going to have to put some thought into that.

Thanks. It's a fun position to stake out and defend - that of the anti-hemp stoner.

Ultimately, it's the hypocracy surrounding both hemp and medical MJ that gets me fired up about this issue.  People just need to admit that they like to get high and quit trying to back door it in on unjustifed claims for pot's efficacy as either a wonder drug or a super plant.


aaah you actually believe that everyone who is pro-hemp is just a pothead in disguise then. I guess it's good it was outlawed then... after all, the world prior to the 1930s must have all been stoners too... every sailor, every hemp farmer, every paper maker using hemp... wow, that's quite a few stoners.
 
2013-05-19 07:44:04 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: IoSaturnalia: HindiDiscoMonster: wow, I have to congratulate you... that is a form of derp I have never seen before (even here). I think we have to come up with a new name for it... I think I am going to have to put some thought into that.

Thanks. It's a fun position to stake out and defend - that of the anti-hemp stoner.

Ultimately, it's the hypocracy surrounding both hemp and medical MJ that gets me fired up about this issue.  People just need to admit that they like to get high and quit trying to back door it in on unjustifed claims for pot's efficacy as either a wonder drug or a super plant.

aaah you actually believe that everyone who is pro-hemp is just a pothead in disguise then. I guess it's good it was outlawed then... after all, the world prior to the 1930s must have all been stoners too... every sailor, every hemp farmer, every paper maker using hemp... wow, that's quite a few stoners.


Now you're just being obtuse.  Back in the 1930s and before, hemp was actually needed for cordage.  We have things called 'polymers' now that render hemp fibers obsolete.

Hemp was just a red herring for 90% of its proponents during this current legalization push. To suggest otherwise is complete lunacy.
 
2013-05-19 07:49:06 PM

TuteTibiImperes: ShawnDoc: Jument: Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

I don't know about revolutionize, but per TFA we import $500 million in hemp products.  That's $500 million that could be going towards domestic producers instead of being shipped out of the country.

We also have a lot more arable land and a more well developed agricultural industry than many other places.  Widespread cultivation of hemp in the US would likely lead to much lower prices, and thus more potential industrial uses, than imported hemp.


But wouldn't it take space usually used for other, edible crops?
 
2013-05-19 07:49:44 PM

IoSaturnalia: HindiDiscoMonster: IoSaturnalia: HindiDiscoMonster: wow, I have to congratulate you... that is a form of derp I have never seen before (even here). I think we have to come up with a new name for it... I think I am going to have to put some thought into that.

Thanks. It's a fun position to stake out and defend - that of the anti-hemp stoner.

Ultimately, it's the hypocracy surrounding both hemp and medical MJ that gets me fired up about this issue.  People just need to admit that they like to get high and quit trying to back door it in on unjustifed claims for pot's efficacy as either a wonder drug or a super plant.

aaah you actually believe that everyone who is pro-hemp is just a pothead in disguise then. I guess it's good it was outlawed then... after all, the world prior to the 1930s must have all been stoners too... every sailor, every hemp farmer, every paper maker using hemp... wow, that's quite a few stoners.

Now you're just being obtuse.  Back in the 1930s and before, hemp was actually needed for cordage.  We have things called 'polymers' now that render hemp fibers obsolete.

Hemp was just a red herring for 90% of its proponents during this current legalization push. To suggest otherwise is complete lunacy.


unless you can tell me what number i am thinking of right now, then i doubt your ability to read other people's minds to know their motivations.
 
2013-05-19 07:50:27 PM

potterydove: TuteTibiImperes: ShawnDoc: Jument: Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?

I don't know about revolutionize, but per TFA we import $500 million in hemp products.  That's $500 million that could be going towards domestic producers instead of being shipped out of the country.

We also have a lot more arable land and a more well developed agricultural industry than many other places.  Widespread cultivation of hemp in the US would likely lead to much lower prices, and thus more potential industrial uses, than imported hemp.

But wouldn't it take space usually used for other, edible crops?


you mean crops like corn that we turn into fuel now?
 
2013-05-19 08:38:24 PM
I remember read some article about hemp based particle board. It had a lot of superior characteristics compared to traditional particle board
 
2013-05-19 08:48:48 PM

noitsnot: Yea, but where are all these hemp products? I am suspicious of this claim, because I can't think of a single hemp product I have ever encountered in my life, apart from arts and crafts from stoners at the ren faire.


As a lady friend.  Hemp oil is used in a lot of beauty cremes.
 
2013-05-19 11:00:01 PM
And why the hell not:

www.hosssauce.com
 
2013-05-20 01:26:46 AM
Then there was the first mate. Now I gotta tell ya bout the first mate.
Anyways this fella' he been down in Mexico. He been workin' in this rope factory down in Mexico. Down in Mexico they make rope outta this funny little hemp plant that grows wild in the ground (some of you people... grow it in flower pots under your bed)...ehh, anyways, he's down there and he's...he's makin' rope outta this funny marijuana plant. One day the rope factory, she catch fire n' he runs back on in to save his lunch - he's got two sardine sandwiches - runnin' back on in to save his lunch. He gets inside n' there's all this funny smoke floatin' around up inside n'...he gets some of this funny smoke up inside his head n'...he sit down in the middle o' de' fire n' he say,

"Shhhhhhhhhhh*t, baby, I ain't gonna make rope no more!!!"
 
2013-05-20 07:21:30 AM

Jument: Seriously, are there any actual products that hemp will really and truly revolutionize? We have access to a lot of excellent natural and artificial materials these days. Can you name a few where hemp will make something that's far and away superior to everything available right now?


lumber for one, it is much faster to grow and process hemp then wood.
 
2013-05-20 08:07:49 AM
Oh no what about the precious snowflakes, their heads will explode from the confusion of hemp and marijuana. We can not keep sending the mixed msg to our precious snowflakes that hemp is useful and marijuana can be used respectfully.
 
2013-05-20 08:14:08 AM

noitsnot: If hemp is of any use, why isn't there a wide array of products available made from hemp grown in other countries (where it's legal to do so)?

I think hemp is basically not useful.


There are, there are clothes made of hemp available in the US, we import hemp seed for soaps, lotions, and all kinds of personal hygiene products. Ropes are still made of hemp used in ship yards, sails are still made of hemp, bird feed uses hemp and even bread from hemp seed is available. Maybe you should look first instead of posting, but I am sure your head will explode if you did.
 
2013-05-20 10:49:31 AM

pmdgrwr: noitsnot: If hemp is of any use, why isn't there a wide array of products available made from hemp grown in other countries (where it's legal to do so)?

I think hemp is basically not useful.

There are, there are clothes made of hemp available in the US, we import hemp seed for soaps, lotions, and all kinds of personal hygiene products. Ropes are still made of hemp used in ship yards, sails are still made of hemp, bird feed uses hemp and even bread from hemp seed is available. Maybe you should look first instead of posting, but I am sure your head will explode if you did.


I have looked. I don't see anything. Clothes are made from cotton and wool and synthetics. Rope is made from jute and sisal and synthetics. Rope's not made from hemp anymore, especially for nautical use, because it shrinks too much when it gets wet. This makes knots impossible to get loose. It's not used for sails either - just google that.

If there was a compelling case for using hemp for anything, then it would be happening. It's not happening.
 
2013-05-20 11:07:47 AM
api.ning.com
 
2013-05-20 04:09:34 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: [api.ning.com image 569x479]


Here's the direct YouTube link: Hemp For Victory (14 minutes).
 
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