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(New Musical Express)   For years, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was the second-biggest selling album in the UK. But now, that album has been overtaken by ABBA's greatest hits collection, Gold   (nme.com) divider line 77
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2013-05-19 01:49:15 PM  
I just don't get why abba is so well acclaimed...
 
2013-05-19 01:49:22 PM  
UK's musical taste sucks. No good new music has come out of the UK since 1980 or before.
 
2013-05-19 01:53:06 PM  
Oh look, it's Beatles fans acting like 14-year-old girls thread again
 
2013-05-19 01:54:06 PM  

show me: UK's musical taste sucks. No good new music has come out of the UK since 1980 or before.


Colon were pretty good
 
2013-05-19 01:57:39 PM  

speciaal: I just don't get why abba is so well acclaimed...


They get by with a little help from their friends.
 
2013-05-19 01:58:41 PM  
I hate the Beatles but this is just farking sad.
 
2013-05-19 02:02:04 PM  

born_yesterday: speciaal: I just don't get why abba is so well acclaimed...

They get by with a little help from their friends.


And they know the winner takes it all.
 
2013-05-19 02:02:24 PM  
This is the Beatles' Waterloo.
 
2013-05-19 02:10:04 PM  

theorellior: This is the Beatles' Waterloo.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-19 02:10:34 PM  
It's better than the U.S. list of artists with #1 hits:

20 - Beatles
18 - Mariah Carey
17 - Elvis
13 - Michael
12 - Rhianna and Madonna

ABBA > half the musicians on this list
 
2013-05-19 02:13:41 PM  
The top two are Greatest Hits albums, Sgt. Pepper is a single album.  That's pretty impressive.
 
2013-05-19 02:30:17 PM  
i1136.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-19 02:30:57 PM  

theorellior: This is the Beatles' Waterloo Benghazi.

 
2013-05-19 02:32:01 PM  

show me: UK's musical taste sucks. No good new music has come out of the UK since 1980 or before.


Elbow
 
2013-05-19 02:36:11 PM  
So a shiatty album was toppled by a shiattier album...so what?

At least the #1 spot is still held by a good band.
 
2013-05-19 02:39:01 PM  

show me: UK's musical taste sucks. No good new music has come out of the UK since 1980 or before.


Maybe not on the charts but there's plenty of good music.

I'm putting TesseracT in the SHMHC assuming we get one this week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmR0gkojHDs
 
2013-05-19 02:55:31 PM  

LewDux: Oh look, it's Beatles haters acting like 14-year-old girls thread again



/FFFY
 
2013-05-19 02:59:43 PM  

ununcle: LewDux: Oh look, it's Beatles haters acting like 14-year-old girls thread again No, you are girl


/FFTFY

 
2013-05-19 03:07:28 PM  

speciaal: I just don't get why abba is so well acclaimed...


A huge run of huge hits, amazingly catchy songs.

And from a musican's standpoint, they were one band which really understood the Beatles recording process and expanded upon it.  There's a ABBA documentary out there somewhere which has a whole section where they isolate instruments from various songs and when you start breaking them down, they're very Beatles-like.
 
2013-05-19 03:09:52 PM  
People, please... can't we all just come together in the spirit of peace and harmony and mock Rush and its fans?
 
2013-05-19 03:16:50 PM  
I never wanted to pork Ringo, Paul, John or George.
 
2013-05-19 03:17:25 PM  
It's really hard for somebody under about 45 to really grasp what a phenomenon they were. And their final album was released only 7 years after their first. They re-invented their sound on almost every album. There is no doubt at all that they were the best and most influential musical group of all time.
 
2013-05-19 03:18:44 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I never wanted to pork Ringo, Paul, John or George.


videokeman.com
Amen.
 
2013-05-19 03:19:01 PM  
I like ABBA, then again, I'm not a 20 something "everything sucks" kind of Farker.
 
2013-05-19 03:20:54 PM  

theorellior: This is the Beatles' Waterloo.


Niiiiice.

Desert island picks? Between the 2 entities, I'd take The Beatles, but between those 2 albums, I'd take ABBAs Greatest Hits any day of the week.
 
2013-05-19 03:21:36 PM  
 
2013-05-19 03:37:15 PM  

speciaal: I just don't get why abba is so well acclaimed...


Try not to be distracted by their hideous outfits.

...Which is very, very difficult.
 
2013-05-19 03:41:35 PM  

speciaal: I just don't get why abba is so well acclaimed...


Most recording artists would sell their soul to the devil to be in a position where they couldn't include songs as well crafted as Eagle, The Day Before You Came and Our Last Summer because they'd run out of space.
 
2013-05-19 03:42:07 PM  
Well, the Beatles (what's left of 'em) want you to know that if you change your mind, they're the first in line.
 
2013-05-19 03:45:42 PM  
and Sgt Peppers is horribly overrated, all gimmicks and tricks and very few good songs.
 
2013-05-19 03:52:58 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: It's better than the U.S. list of artists with #1 hits:

20 - Beatles
18 - Mariah Carey
17 - Elvis
13 - Michael
12 - Rhianna and Madonna

ABBA > half the musicians on this list


Uh, there are only 5 musicians included in that list. Whats your point
/ABBA sucks
 
2013-05-19 03:56:42 PM  
Oasis> ABBA/ Beatles!
end troll...
 
2013-05-19 04:05:44 PM  
I am a long time Beatles fan. That said, St Peppers is my least favorite Beatles album. The stupid BeeGees movie made it worse.
 
2013-05-19 04:12:24 PM  
Like a lot of people born well after their heyday, for the longest time I only knew ABBA for the annoying,  saccharine-sweet "Dancing Queen", but after listening to some other stuff of theirs over time, while still far from my cup of tea, they really were fantastic songwriters.

And, does anyone consider  Sgt Peppers... the best Beatles album? There's probably only three songs on there I truly like.
 
2013-05-19 04:17:24 PM  

Larry Mahnken: The top two are Greatest Hits albums, Sgt. Pepper is a single album.  That's pretty impressive.


Yeah I don't see what the big deal is. ABBA is a great pop group, and their greatest hits is pretty solid.

I'm more concerned that Abbey Road didn't outsell Sgt. Pepper, as it's way better.

Just imagine how much ABBA Road would sell.
 
2013-05-19 04:17:34 PM  

Killer Cars: And, does anyone consider Sgt Peppers... the best Beatles album? There's probably only three songs on there I truly like.


10 years ago, a lot of people did, but times and tastes have changed.  I always thought it was too Paul-heavy and gimicky, but I loved it when I was 12.
 
2013-05-19 04:18:49 PM  

LewDux: ununcle: LewDux: Oh look, it's Beatles haters acting like 14-year-old girls thread again No, you are girl


/FFTFY


O what the fark.

/Chuckle
 
2013-05-19 04:51:29 PM  
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2013-05-19 05:12:25 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: The stupid BeeGees movie made it worse.


never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened never happened ...
 
2013-05-19 05:23:03 PM  
It's really not fair comparing a regular album with an anthology...

/Also, anyone badmouthing the UK: Garth Brooks has 6 albums in this...
 
2013-05-19 05:25:03 PM  

LewDux: Oh look, it's Beatles fans acting like 14-year-old girls thread again


I don't have a dog in this fight, but it would be amusing if ABBA is popular centuries from now, and the Beatles become just a musical footnote, only remembered by a few scholars....

/ Both bands have good ( & not so good) songs...IMHO
 
2013-05-19 05:35:48 PM  
I'm actually okay with this. I'll take ABBA over "Generic pop idol who nobody will remember in five years" anytime.
 
2013-05-19 05:42:36 PM  
the Eurovision group

I had no idea Eurovision had been around that long.


show me: It's really hard for somebody under about 45 to really grasp what a phenomenon they were. And their final album was released only 7 years after their first. They re-invented their sound on almost every album. There is no doubt at all that they were the best and most influential musical group of all time.


43 here. I practically grew up listening to ABBA. Them and the Village People are just about all my mom listened to outside of Christmas albums.
 
2013-05-19 05:46:11 PM  

farkeruk: and Sgt Peppers is horribly overrated, all gimmicks and tricks and very few good songs.


That's easy to say now.
 
2013-05-19 05:48:20 PM  
I went with the girlfriend to see the original production run of "Mama Mia" in Los Angeles. I was prepared to hate it. That went out the window. I was smiling like an idiot by the end of the show.
 
2013-05-19 05:51:10 PM  

Badgers: It's really not fair comparing a regular album with an anthology...

/Also, anyone badmouthing the UK: Garth Brooks has 6 albums in this...


does the UK also do the same thing as the US where double albums (over 100 minutes, used to be 80 minutes) count as 2 units solds?
 
2013-05-19 06:01:41 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I am a long time Beatles fan. That said, St Peppers is my least favorite Beatles album. The stupid BeeGees movie made it worse.


I wouldn't say least favorite, but I'm kinda with you.  Never cared much for the early Beatles stuff, but I also didn't grow up during that phenomenon.  And indeed, i respect the early 60's stuff as a phenomenon.

I also respect Sgt. Peppers for everything it changed and inspired.  However, the album itself, I just can't get into.  (Well, except "A Day In The Life")
 
2013-05-19 06:10:52 PM  

fusillade762: the Eurovision group

I had no idea Eurovision had been around that long.


show me: It's really hard for somebody under about 45 to really grasp what a phenomenon they were. And their final album was released only 7 years after their first. They re-invented their sound on almost every album. There is no doubt at all that they were the best and most influential musical group of all time.

43 here. I practically grew up listening to ABBA. Them and the Village People are just about all my mom listened to outside of Christmas albums.


I was talking about the Beatles, but you knew that, didn't you Mr. Troll.
 
2013-05-19 06:20:17 PM  

show me: fusillade762: the Eurovision group

I had no idea Eurovision had been around that long.

show me: It's really hard for somebody under about 45 to really grasp what a phenomenon they were. And their final album was released only 7 years after their first. They re-invented their sound on almost every album. There is no doubt at all that they were the best and most influential musical group of all time.

43 here. I practically grew up listening to ABBA. Them and the Village People are just about all my mom listened to outside of Christmas albums.

I was talking about the Beatles, but you knew that, didn't you Mr. Troll.


Oh shiat. No, I didn't. My bad.

*slinks out of thread*
 
2013-05-19 06:43:05 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: Badgers: It's really not fair comparing a regular album with an anthology...

/Also, anyone badmouthing the UK: Garth Brooks has 6 albums in this...

does the UK also do the same thing as the US where double albums (over 100 minutes, used to be 80 minutes) count as 2 units solds?


I'm not sure. I do know they changed the rules for singles and that basically killed the cd single market in the UK... compilations and anthologies could have their own chart.
 
2013-05-19 07:05:41 PM  

fusillade762: Oh shiat. No, I didn't. My bad.

*slinks out of thread*


Oh, no, don't worry about it. A simple misunderstanding.

/I will grudgingly admit Abba is very catchy and pleasant, I liked them a bit back in the day, but not really my cup of tea. When I found out that they were G. Gordon Liddy's favorite band (really), that was the last straw.
 
2013-05-19 07:11:27 PM  
to all you haters, Sgt.Pepper is a great album with only 2 crappl songs-When I'm Senile and George'
s piece of Raga garbage
 
2013-05-19 07:17:51 PM  
Well if you can buy Abba Gold for $7.99 on Itunes and The Beatles sgt peeper is $12.99 (in the US assuming similar in the UK) there is a decided advantage.
 
2013-05-19 07:19:15 PM  
Decided? Decisive? whatever.
 
2013-05-19 07:23:13 PM  
I'm sure Paul and Ringo and George and John's legal heir will cry themselves to sleep on huge piles of cash tonight.
 
2013-05-19 07:29:12 PM  

riverwalk barfly: Decided? Decisive? whatever.


Eh. Both work.
 
2013-05-19 07:55:26 PM  
The awesomeness of Freddie looks down upon them from his perch atop the #1 spot.

\I get it, but as I saw in every milestone number music thread, numbers can be topped.  The awesome total package that was the Beatles, Queen and the rest will never be topped.
 
2013-05-19 08:17:49 PM  

chitownmike: AliceBToklasLives: It's better than the U.S. list of artists with #1 hits:

20 - Beatles
18 - Mariah Carey
17 - Elvis
13 - Michael
12 - Rhianna and Madonna

ABBA > half the musicians on this list

Uh, there are only 5 musicians included in that list. Whats your point
/ABBA sucks


Math's not your strong suit, eh?  I'll show the work:

ABBA > Mariah
ABBA > Madonna
ABBA > Rhianna

/ABBA sucking or not has no bearing on the truth of the above statements.
 
2013-05-19 08:58:00 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: chitownmike: AliceBToklasLives: It's better than the U.S. list of artists with #1 hits:

20 - Beatles
18 - Mariah Carey
17 - Elvis
13 - Michael
12 - Rhianna and Madonna

ABBA > half the musicians on this list

Uh, there are only 5 musicians included in that list. Whats your point
/ABBA sucks

Math's not your strong suit, eh?  I'll show the work:

ABBA > Mariah
ABBA > Madonna
ABBA > Rhianna

/ABBA sucking or not has no bearing on the truth of the above statements.


IMO I think Abba equals Madonna. I like them both in the sense they both had catchy pop tunes and were sexy. Niether belong in a Beatles discussion.
 
2013-05-19 09:22:42 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I am a long time Beatles fan. That said, St Peppers is my least favorite Beatles album. The stupid BeeGees movie made it worse.


There are only two good things about that movie

this
and
this
 
2013-05-19 09:38:19 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: chitownmike: AliceBToklasLives: It's better than the U.S. list of artists with #1 hits:

20 - Beatles
18 - Mariah Carey
17 - Elvis
13 - Michael
12 - Rhianna and Madonna

ABBA > half the musicians on this list

Uh, there are only 5 musicians included in that list. Whats your point
/ABBA sucks

Math's not your strong suit, eh?  I'll show the work:

ABBA > Mariah
ABBA > Madonna
ABBA > Rhianna

/ABBA sucking or not has no bearing on the truth of the above statements.


That's three fifths, not one half.
 
2013-05-19 10:28:58 PM  

Kyosuke: That's three fifths, not one half.


3/6 = 1/2

www.thepensivecitadel.com
 
2013-05-19 11:46:09 PM  

fusillade762: 43 here. I practically grew up listening to ABBA. Them and the Village People are just about all my mom listened to outside of Christmas albums.


What did she listen to inside Christmas albums?

/old Groucho joke.
 
2013-05-19 11:53:28 PM  
AliceBToklasLives:

ABBA > Mariah
ABBA > Madonna
ABBA > Rhianna


ABBA > Michael
 
2013-05-20 01:29:25 AM  
I don't care. I'm not changing my handle over this. But I wouldn't mind a gang bang with the ABBA chicks.

/hates the Beatles
//loves ABBA
///not joking
 
2013-05-20 02:28:00 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: Kyosuke: That's three fifths, not one half.

3/6 = 1/2

[www.thepensivecitadel.com image 694x530]


I actually see eight musicians on that list. Nine if you count Ringo.
 
2013-05-20 08:59:50 AM  
I'm not really a fan but their success cannot be denied.

For all the people who are screaming that ABBA sux....how many of *your* favorite bands have been offered $1 Billion to reunite for a tour?  And how many of the bands that you think are the greatest TURNED DOWN this $1B offer?

Anyone?
 
2013-05-20 09:07:33 AM  

Sergeant Pecker's Lonely Hearts Club Gang Bang: But I wouldn't mind a gang bang with the ABBA chicks.


Hmmm....I don't think you've thought this one through.  You do realize these women are in their mid 60s now, yes...?  But the pictures from the 70s look pretty good!

It's kinda like when Al Bundy was drooling over Emma Peel on an episode of the Avengers, and Bud rags him saying she must be near 100 years old.

"But she's on film, son.  If your mother was on film I'd still be having sex with her."
 
2013-05-20 11:47:39 AM  
The Beatles were genius and Abba was a so-so pop band.
 
2013-05-20 01:25:15 PM  

LewDux: ♫only 17+10♫


Freddy Travolta or John Mercury?
 
2013-05-20 02:12:18 PM  

ristst: For all the people who are screaming that ABBA sux....how many of *your* favorite bands have been offered $1 Billion to reunite for a tour?  And how many of the bands that you think are the greatest TURNED DOWN this $1B offer?


Yeah, right.

*hits google*

Damn ...
 
2013-05-20 02:17:30 PM  

happydude45: The Beatles were genius and Abba was a so-so pop band.


Yes, the Beatles were genius....you get no argument there.  But there are a lot of people who dismiss them as so-so, I know a lot of people who don't care for them whatsoever.    And despite your personal musical opinions, to dismiss ABBA as "so-so" is ignorant.  If you dislike them, fine.  I was never a fan...I used to hear their songs a lot back in the day and they've never done anything for me.  I had one friend who loved to sing the chorus of Fernando in the most sarcastic way imaginable just to piss off people.

But they are one of the biggest and most profitable groups in history, and that is FACT.  So if someone says Vanilla Ice was also successful and also sold a lotta records, well....he's not even in the ballpark.

1- They are the 14th biggest selling musical act in history (yes, the Beatles are 1st)
2- Had only a 10yr run (closest in top 30 biggest sellers is Led Zepplin @ 12yrs)
2- Was Swedens biggest money maker for some years, 2nd only to Volvo
3- Along with Mike Nesmith, they are credited for developing the music video
4- Were also extremely successful in fashion and design
5- Had no interest in touring the US, they were so rich it didn't matter to them
5- Turned down $1B to reunite in 2000

The Beatles were offered $30M in the mid 70s, which adjusted for inflation is about $100M in 2000.  http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi

Oh, and Lorne Michaels offered them $3000 to appear on SNL....that was $1000 each if they decided not to pay Ringo.

Like ABBA or not, their level of success is rare...and if you consider the fact that they only made records for 10 years it's that much more impressive.

/If ya gotta problem, yo I'll solve it
//So check out this hook while my DJ revolves it
 
2013-05-20 02:26:31 PM  

Uncle Tractor: ristst: For all the people who are screaming that ABBA sux....how many of *your* favorite bands have been offered $1 Billion to reunite for a tour?  And how many of the bands that you think are the greatest TURNED DOWN this $1B offer?

Yeah, right.

*hits google*

Damn ...



Another one is the Volvo thing.  A lotta people have called bullshiat on me for mentioning this.  It ain't bullshiat...
http://www.classicbands.com/abba.html

The thing is, I never knew any of this stuff about them....they were just another pop band from back in the day as far as I knew.  But I saw the documentary on them a few years back, and I was SHOCKED.  Never knew how big they were globally.  They were farkin' HUGE.
 
2013-05-20 03:34:07 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-20 03:42:27 PM  
Total albums sold by ABBA - 375 million
Total

ristst: Uncle Tractor: ristst: For all the people who are screaming that ABBA sux....how many of *your* favorite bands have been offered $1 Billion to reunite for a tour?  And how many of the bands that you think are the greatest TURNED DOWN this $1B offer?

Yeah, right.

*hits google*

Damn ...


Another one is the Volvo thing.  A lotta people have called bullshiat on me for mentioning this.  It ain't bullshiat...
http://www.classicbands.com/abba.html

The thing is, I never knew any of this stuff about them....they were just another pop band from back in the day as far as I knew.  But I saw the documentary on them a few years back, and I was SHOCKED.  Never knew how big they were globally.  They were farkin' HUGE.


Total Albums sold by ABBA - 375 million (discounted bin included)
Total albums sold by The Beatles 500 million (never discounted)

Again, if John/George were alive and there was a one-off show vs. Abba doing a one-off show.   Abba would be in the audience at The Beatles.
 
2013-05-20 04:37:51 PM  

ristst: I'm not really a fan but their success cannot be denied.

For all the people who are screaming that ABBA sux....how many of *your* favorite bands have been offered $1 Billion to reunite for a tour?  And how many of the bands that you think are the greatest TURNED DOWN this $1B offer?

Anyone?


My favorite band(s) continue touring because they love making music and performing it live. Money just pays the bills.
 
2013-05-20 09:04:19 PM  

LewDux: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x660]


I have never heard of any of those bands/acts but it sure looks intriguing.
 
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