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(Boston Globe)   IRS office in Cincinnati was "understaffed backwater." We knew that when we were told it was in Cincinnati   (bostonglobe.com) divider line 16
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2013-05-19 02:49:28 PM  
3 votes:
I'm sorry, I know I am in the minority, but if your group tries to get exempt status and your group is all about no taxes... AND you are the tax people... YEAH... you should expect to be scrutinized.

If you are attending the NAMBLA conference, expect to be scrutinized for being a pedophile.

This isn't a stretch.

That being said, there should be VERY, VERY few tax exempt groups.

Tax churches, legalize and tax weed and prostitution and we will make huge advancements in the infrastructure of this county.
2013-05-19 03:47:40 PM  
2 votes:
Using the IRS as your own personal Brute squad is one of the things Richard Nixon was facing impeachment over when he resigned... but I guess its not Fascism when Obama does it right?
2013-05-19 03:08:02 PM  
2 votes:

GORDON: It's too bad there isn't a single competent person in the federal government anymore who has enough awareness to be responsible for anything.

Oh well, bring on Obamacare.


Yeah, how dare those IRS guys notice all these anti-tax political organizations trying to cheat their taxes.

Truly, what great monsters of history.
2013-05-19 02:51:48 PM  
2 votes:
Man, there are a bunch of rubes who will believe anything the government will tell them.

How dumb do you have to be to really believe that every federal agency and office of any importance must be located in downtown DC right next to the White House?
2013-05-19 11:31:21 PM  
1 votes:

Ohiofarker: Fta -
But the Exempt Organizations Division - concentrated in Cincinnati with fewer than 200 workers, according to IRS officials - is staffed mostly with accountants, clerks, and civil servants. They review about 70,000 applications for exemptions each year.


Rounding a little - that's about 2/day per person.

I honestly don't know what an application looks like, but I'm guessing that 2 reviews a day is not overly burdensome.


Cincinnati is actually a regional Hub for the IRS. But you have to look half a mile south in Covington Ky, to find it. The IRS has two huge facilities there with hundreds of staffers.

Per the article, if there was only one person working "tea party" applications and they were held up for nearly 3 years, that is a bureaucratic dead letter office. The person assigned to that post was a fuse, meant to be burned with the activity was exposed.

It is more relevant to look to the department head, who was given three bonus's that were so large they required presidential approval. That is a reward for burying those tea party applications far from the light of day for as long as she did.
2013-05-19 07:21:37 PM  
1 votes:

neongoats: Yeah, how dare those IRS guys notice all these anti-tax political organizations trying to cheat their taxes.


Yet there was not a single case of "tax cheaters".  Advocating the government reduce spending and taxes is hardly the same as advocating cheating on your taxes.
2013-05-19 04:31:33 PM  
1 votes:
Oh - the Humanity!

/thread needs more Les Nessman

//or Bailey
2013-05-19 04:30:27 PM  
1 votes:

neongoats: Oldiron_79: Using the IRS as your own personal Brute squad is one of the things Richard Nixon was facing impeachment over when he resigned... but I guess its not Fascism when Obama does it right?

Yeah, how dare the IRS look for tax evaders amongst anti-tax activists.

Don't be jelly that the IRS looked in the most likely place to find tax evaders and found them.


Exactly.

I said the same thing when people biatched about the FBI and NYPD infiltrating and monitoring Muslim advocacy groups in this country, or when the TSA targets specific nationalities or ethnicities.

If we think you're part of a suspicious group, we reserve the right to treat you with extra suspicion. Don't like it? Too bad. Shut up or face the consequences. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
2013-05-19 04:06:21 PM  
1 votes:

Fissile: Article headline:

"Employees given heavy workload, little direction"
I know someone who worked on the most recent Census.  Wanna know what it was like?  See directly above.

My friend ran into more than a little Tea-Party herp 'n derp while trying to hunt down non-respondents.   People who "knew"  the Census was a ruse used by Obama to set up UN detention camps.  My friend told me he stood there thinking to himself, "UN detention camps?  The people running this show probably couldn't set up a preschool summer camp."


Yeah, like how Obama is at the same time, the most diabolical, powerful, force of evil and persecution in the universe, with power of time and teleportation at his disposal, and also somehow, the most useless, ineffectual, powerless individual to ever hold office.
2013-05-19 04:04:30 PM  
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: Using the IRS as your own personal Brute squad is one of the things Richard Nixon was facing impeachment over when he resigned... but I guess its not Fascism when Obama does it right?


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True, and the IRS ignored Nixon's demands to audit the people on his enemies list.  Even then the IRS was being controlled by Obama.
2013-05-19 03:59:43 PM  
1 votes:

fireclown: Ah. That makes everything ok. No links to anyone, nobody to blame over the rank of PFC. Great.


Meh, it's politics as usual:  if "the goverment" screws up, and your party is in the Whitehouse then it was only an isolated-incident-and-its-over-why-are-we-still-talking-about-it.  If the other party is in the Whitehouse then he personally oversaw the entire operation and it was all part of his evil plan to fark the world over.
2013-05-19 03:53:30 PM  
1 votes:

Oldiron_79: Using the IRS as your own personal Brute squad is one of the things Richard Nixon was facing impeachment over when he resigned... but I guess its not Fascism when Obama does it right?


Yeah, how dare the IRS look for tax evaders amongst anti-tax activists.

Don't be jelly that the IRS looked in the most likely place to find tax evaders and found them.
2013-05-19 03:26:12 PM  
1 votes:

Marine1: neongoats: Marine1: The thing about this is... someone has to get bent over a barrel for this, whether it was just gross negligence or someone really had it out for the Tea-heads. Otherwise, you're proving a bunch of people who say the government is horrible to be correct.

By catching people explicitly trying to evade taxes?

Boy, that IS evil.

If they're using 'political speech' as the criteria for why someone should not have tax-exempt status, then that's fine. If someone's using 'political speech of a certain leaning', then we have a problem.

Which reminds me, how is it that the WBC still has their TES? They've made *several* blatantly political statements.


So, what, are you saying we finally found a crime that the right wing isn't ok with profiling for?

Face it, tea party groups are the black guy in a hoodie at midnight of political organizations. Why is it bad for the IRS to look for tax evasion among people who are anti-tax radicals. Sounds like common sense to me/most people. Which is why this is such a non scandal.
2013-05-19 03:11:38 PM  
1 votes:

neongoats: Marine1: The thing about this is... someone has to get bent over a barrel for this, whether it was just gross negligence or someone really had it out for the Tea-heads. Otherwise, you're proving a bunch of people who say the government is horrible to be correct.

By catching people explicitly trying to evade taxes?

Boy, that IS evil.


If they're using 'political speech' as the criteria for why someone should not have tax-exempt status, then that's fine. If someone's using 'political speech of a certain leaning', then we have a problem.

Which reminds me, how is it that the WBC still has their TES? They've made *several* blatantly political statements.
2013-05-19 02:24:03 PM  
1 votes:
Fta -
But the Exempt Organizations Division - concentrated in Cincinnati with fewer than 200 workers, according to IRS officials - is staffed mostly with accountants, clerks, and civil servants. They review about 70,000 applications for exemptions each year.


Rounding a little - that's about 2/day per person.

I honestly don't know what an application looks like, but I'm guessing that 2 reviews a day is not overly burdensome.
2013-05-19 02:22:28 PM  
1 votes:
Overzealous staffer! Nothing to see here! These are not the droids you are looking for!
 
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