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2013-05-19 11:52:33 AM
"The aircraft landed successfully on Runway 4L at about 1 a.m. The airport was closed until 2:55 a.m.," the FAA said in a statement. "Runway 4L remained closed until 9:34 a.m."

You know, I would think a successful landing would involve the landing gear. Instead I would describe it as, "A desired outcome to a crash, thanks to an awesome pilot!"
 
2013-05-19 12:09:21 PM

Primitive Screwhead: reillan: Did they get the belly gunner out in time?

No and the cartoon wheels didn't hold either.
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Give me a Ham on five, hold the Mayo.


glad someone got that reference :)

/Do you like movies about gladiators?
 
2013-05-19 12:29:24 PM

Warthog: Also, getting a Dash 8 to sit level on a round fuselage without balancing on an engine / prop seems like hard core piloting to me.

Healthy Dash 8:

[i.imgur.com image 640x448]

The plane stopped without wheels:

[farm3.staticflickr.com image 800x597]


That second shot is spectacular. A belly landing without a propstrike makes that airplane worth salvaging.
 
2013-05-19 12:38:01 PM
But is disco still alive?
 
2013-05-19 12:45:57 PM
Stuck on the Tarmac in ATL due to lightning storms before we can disembark, so getting a kick...

/Stewardess? I speak Jive!
 
2013-05-19 12:48:45 PM
I like it when they spray foam on the landing strip
 
2013-05-19 01:03:51 PM

houstondragon: Stuck on the Tarmac in ATL due to lightning storms before we can disembark, so getting a kick...

/Stewardess? I speak Jive!


Sure you aren't waiting for Air Force 1?
 
2013-05-19 01:14:32 PM

Eutychus: How many aircraft have an entire Wikipedia page all their own devoted to landing gear incidents?


*sigh*

If you bothered to peruse your own linki you'd have noticed a couple of things.

1 - Most of the incidents (and all of the detailed ones) are about the Dash 8-400, the aircraft in question in this incident (Dash 8-100) has been flying longer and with significantly fewer incidents.

2 - Most of the incidents involving the 300/400 Series on your link seem to lead back to improper maintenance (displaced grease seasl, over torqued wheel nuts)

3 - Of the 2 incidents listed that detailed the A/C being a 100 model.  It was contributing factor in the crash of 1 A/C (trying to lower gear manually while still conducting approach), and in the other incident the gear collapsed after they ran the A/C sideways into a snowbank due to windshear.

Don't work for Bombardier but I did finish a 2.5 year rotation as a Flight Safety Investigator so I'm getting a mild kick out of these replies.  But that's mostly from all the Airplane! references.
 
2013-05-19 01:22:07 PM

Xcott: It's US Air.  Maybe the landing gear is managed by their famously reliable computer system.


It's ok, they're on instruments.

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2013-05-19 01:25:57 PM
TFA says the plane has minimal damage, how is that possible?

Even if the pilot did one hell of a landing job, he's still landing on the belly. Wouldn't that tear up the underside in a considerable way?
 
2013-05-19 01:29:19 PM

ReluctantPaladin: Eutychus: How many aircraft have an entire Wikipedia page all their own devoted to landing gear incidents?

*sigh*

If you bothered to peruse your own linki you'd have noticed a couple of things.


Yes I did, and I noticed not only that it was not the exact same aircraft but also that other aircraft of the exact same type as this one were listed on the page.
The fact is I'm far more likely to fly on a Dash 8-400 anyway since it is Flybe's workhorse.

/Not any kind of Flight Anything but have survived an emergency landing in an Air France Airbus A-340
/Yes I have preferred Boeings since.
 
2013-05-19 01:34:59 PM
Also from a related page to the above link

"In November 2007, it was revealed that the Swedish Civil Aviation Administration had begun an investigation and as a result found Scandinavian Airlines System culpable of corner-cutting in its maintenance department. The airline reportedly made 2,300 flights in which safety equipment was not up to standard"

I might all be a little twitchy because I remember after this ( Colgan_Air_Flight_3407 ) crash, within the first few days there was a former head of the NTSB (or maybe FAA) jumping up and down on all the 24/7 News channels about how the crash was the result of faulty design of the de-icing equipment.  Turns out it was pilot error (caused significantly in part by poor organtizationl culture).

That is all.
 
2013-05-19 01:43:31 PM

strangeluck: TFA says the plane has minimal damage, how is that possible?

Even if the pilot did one hell of a landing job, he's still landing on the belly. Wouldn't that tear up the underside in a considerable way?


Not necessarily. It will have to be inspected and likely have any ventral equipment replaced. As long as the fuselage structure and pressure bulkheads are intact, it will be good to go soon.
 
2013-05-19 02:06:41 PM

Charlie Freak: strangeluck: TFA says the plane has minimal damage, how is that possible?

Even if the pilot did one hell of a landing job, he's still landing on the belly. Wouldn't that tear up the underside in a considerable way?

Not necessarily. It will have to be inspected and likely have any ventral equipment replaced. As long as the fuselage structure and pressure bulkheads are intact, it will be good to go soon.


Note to self: avoid flying on Useless Air Express in the future if equipment is listed as "Dash-8".
 
2013-05-19 03:51:20 PM

Kryler: I like it when they spray foam on the landing strip


Sometimes necessary after the pilot pulls out of a tight dive.
 
2013-05-19 04:03:51 PM
So subby, do you like Gladiator movies?
 
2013-05-19 04:36:40 PM

LonMead: Johnny, what can you make of this?


Oh, I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl...
 
2013-05-19 04:53:38 PM

reillan: Did they get the belly gunner out in time?


They had to magic up a set of cartoon wheels to land safely without smooshing him
 
2013-05-19 05:23:15 PM

Warthog: Also, getting a Dash 8 to sit level on a round fuselage without balancing on an engine / prop seems like hard core piloting to me.

Healthy Dash 8:

[i.imgur.com image 640x448]

The plane stopped without wheels:

[farm3.staticflickr.com image 800x597]



I'm glad you pointed it out, that really -is- impressive. I guess no engine or prop damage because of that - that will end up saving someone a few million. He deserves a bonus. Awesome.
 
2013-05-19 05:30:01 PM

heavymetal: That is what happens when you come in too low over Macho Grande.


Coming in low is part of any textbook landing...
 
2013-05-19 05:33:30 PM
There's a sale at Penney's!
 
2013-05-19 09:08:32 PM
www.surfingtheapocalypse.net
 
2013-05-20 12:10:27 AM

MountainClimber: How much time does a flight from Philadelphia to Newark, about 90 miles, save you anyways? I mean by the time it takes to get to the airport (transportation?), go though TSA bullshiat, board, the actual flight time, landing procedures, disembark, retrieve any kind of baggage then deal with transportation to your final destination.


It depends. From my town I can catch a puddle jumper to SF in for a, what? Fifteen minutes in the air? In return I get free parking and minimal TSA bullshiat. Once I get to my destination in SF I am off for a week somewhere else and already cleared to go.

Not sure how it works there but for me it works out well.
 
2013-05-20 03:17:01 AM
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