Nabb1: BarkingUnicorn: "opting to recognize the International Day of Families instead"I like this. One less disruption of my routine per year.One day a year for Mom and one day a year for Dad just too much of a burden for you?
netcentric: We need a 'environment' day, not mothers or fathers day.Kids don't need parents. They are raised by the community as a whole.
diaphoresis: Marquis de Sod: golem222: The real problem is the erosion of tradition to appease a small minority group. Look i know that if your parents are gay it might be uncomfortable for you to celebrate these days, after all its just one more reminder of the abnormality of your situation. Or if a parent passed away the day might be sad for you, however for the vast majority these situations do not apply.THIS WHAT BIGOTS ACTUALLY BELIEVEand you proved your bigotry as well.../I love full circles
kimmygibblershomework: Oh man lol. This one thread explains teh crazy behind so many asshole TFers, it is priceless :) Now I see why there are so many "Daddy Pants" types around here. Sheesh.
Dansker: bunner: It is imperative that we coddle, protect, insulate and endlessly cater to children...It's imperative that children are taught how to make greeting cards, is what I learned from this thread.
This About That: How about discontinuing these :"holidays" because they are bogus events made up by marketers to sell you more overpriced useless stuff?
Dragonblink: As a pregnant woman with a wife, I get asked about Father's Day a surprising amount.It's very simple -- if the kid makes a Father's Day card or something at school, they can give it to my dad, their grandpa. (Wife's dad is an emotionally abusive asshat she hasn't spoken to in fifteen years, so he's not in the picture.)No need to make a big frickin' deal over it, it's the same kind of compromise that children with divorced or deceased parents have been doing for a long time.
Bathia_Mapes: Some kids may not have a mom or a dad. Father's Day was a painful time for my son back when he was in school.
chocolate covered poop: gimmegimme:I don't feel like quoting all that stuff, but I think we are on the same page here. I think the underlying point is that we have a subset of issues out there where emotion and reason are conflated. Let's take racism as an example:There are 2 notions1. Racism is bad2. But, race is still a real thing that is a consequence of physical reality and human evolutionWhat I'm saying is that the above 2 positions are mutually exclusive. To say that x-ism is a bad thing does not automatically mean that x is not a thing. Just because something is bad, or unpleasant, does not mean we should pretend it does not exist. I am first and foremost a secular humanist, but feel that we sometimes delude ourselves into believing that certain problems and harsh realities do not exist.
Nabb1: I never realized that this was such a controversial issue for some people. For Christ's sake it just a little day to do something extra for mom and dad.
hasty ambush: It iis better we put through the progressive idea that all children belong to the state...
Fano: Anyway, conservatives acknowledge plenty of traditions less than a hundred years old, like saying "Under God," during the pledge of allegiance.
joeshlabotnik: I demand that everyone else stop celebrating their birthdays because it makes me feel sad that it's not my birthday.
mikewadestr: What about Heather has a mom and a dog?
tuna fingers: Wait a minute.Mothers Day/Fathers Day weren't acknowledged at the schools I went to. They just weren't. What school acknowledges these anyway?
Dansker: Fano: Anyway, conservatives acknowledge plenty of traditions less than a hundred years old, like saying "Under God," during the pledge of allegiance.I think I've worked it out now: You're right, it doesn't have to more than a hundred, it just has to be older than the conservative in question.
neongoats: joeshlabotnik: I demand that everyone else stop celebrating their birthdays because it makes me feel sad that it's not my birthday.Well, if you are over the age of like 21 and still celebrate birthdays, you might just want to go ahead and join adulthood with the rest of us.
johnny_stingray: and why don't we celebrate St Crispians Day anymore?[blogs.telegraph.co.uk image 620x388]
Jument: But also, more seriously, International Family Day would be a horrible experience for someone with no parents or family. WHY WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
chocolate covered poop: But, race is still a real thing that is a consequence of physical reality and human evolution
ParagonComplex: My Three Dads. If ever an older, mostly forgotten, television series needed a modern reboot it's that one.
Ranger Rover: Nabb1: I never realized that this was such a controversial issue for some people. For Christ's sake it just a little day to do something extra for mom and dad.It shouldn't be such a controversial issue. But in today's America, if I can't have it, no one can. If I lost my mother or my father or never had a relatoionship, no one should have the right to celebrate theirs, because feelings. Also, we should discontinue these holidays because of over-commercialization and the fact that they're just excuses for Hallmark to make money. If Hallmark sells eight dollar Mother's Day cards and Wal-Mart says twenty dollar boxes of chocolate that's the only way I can celebrate it and protesting this commercialization by getting completely rid of the holiday is the only way I can show everybody how cool and rebellious I am! Being an adult, wishing other people the best even if I don't have a reason to celebrate, or if I do, shunning the eight dollar card and making something for or just otherwise thanking my parents? Unthinkable!
Soymilk: E5bie: Cuchulane: Why is any of this silliness brought up in school in the first place? Stick to learning useful information in school.Because every single day in elementary school must be a holiday, or celebration, or themed in some way.Heaven forbid we get through a week without a pile of colored paper shapes.I used to be in a stepfamily support group, and there is an amazing amount of angst around MD and FD. There's your step-parent who feels slighted because they got no school-made present from the kids they'd been raising while the kid's deadbeat non-custodial parent got a present. There's your butthurt biomom who's offended that her kid made 2 presents, one for her and one for the kid's stepmom.
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