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2013-05-19 10:59:34 AM

WhippingBoy: You mean like asking kids to make a Mother/Father's day card in art block instead of making a paper-mache blob? I'm amazed that this abuse of resources and time has been allowed to continue. It truly is an abomination of the most significant proportions.


smart + 1.
 
2013-05-19 11:06:25 AM

WhippingBoy: Dansker: Lsherm: For fark's sake, unless they are orphans one of the days is going to apply to them.

For fark's sake, why are schools wasting their time and resources celebrating Mother's and Father's Days in the first place?

You mean like asking kids to make a Mother/Father's day card in art block instead of making a paper-mache blob? I'm amazed that this abuse of resources and time has been allowed to continue. It truly is an abomination of the most significant proportions.


No, just pointles and frivolous, you drama queen.
 
2013-05-19 11:11:01 AM
"We have become a nation of whiny, entitled pricks."

"Yeah, it's great, isn't it?"

"Why do you say that?"

"You how much MONEY there is in catering to, kissing up to and nursing the perpetual butthurt of these spoiled wankers?"
 
2013-05-19 11:11:27 AM

WhippingBoy: Dansker: Lsherm: For fark's sake, unless they are orphans one of the days is going to apply to them.

For fark's sake, why are schools wasting their time and resources celebrating Mother's and Father's Days in the first place?

You mean like asking kids to make a Mother/Father's day card in art block instead of making a paper-mache blob? I'm amazed that this abuse of resources and time has been allowed to continue. It truly is an abomination of the most significant proportions.


I'm glad we have such efficient Farkers keeping an eye on every penny of government expenditure, which I'm sure they apply to every branch. The banker from Mary Poppins would be proud.
 
2013-05-19 11:12:13 AM

Dansker: WhippingBoy: Dansker: Lsherm: For fark's sake, unless they are orphans one of the days is going to apply to them.

For fark's sake, why are schools wasting their time and resources celebrating Mother's and Father's Days in the first place?

You mean like asking kids to make a Mother/Father's day card in art block instead of making a paper-mache blob? I'm amazed that this abuse of resources and time has been allowed to continue. It truly is an abomination of the most significant proportions.

No, just pointles and frivolous, you drama queen.


As opposed to the non-descript, paper-mache blob?

Merry Christmas!
 
2013-05-19 11:12:36 AM
how about we get rid of sex discrimination in the Olympics, too.  All sports, actually.  Let's get the bland lowest common denominator bandwagon rolling!  Diversity is weakness.
 
2013-05-19 11:12:39 AM

Arthur Jumbles: This About That: How about discontinuing these :"holidays" because they are bogus events made up by marketers to sell you more overpriced useless stuff?

Second.


Indeed.
 
2013-05-19 11:15:07 AM

BlippityBleep: how about we get rid of sex discrimination in the Olympics, too.  All sports, actually.  Let's get the bland lowest common denominator bandwagon rolling!  Diversity is weakness.


If we can prevent one useless person from being offended, it's totally worth it.
 
2013-05-19 11:19:38 AM

WhippingBoy: Dansker: WhippingBoy: Dansker: Lsherm: For fark's sake, unless they are orphans one of the days is going to apply to them.

For fark's sake, why are schools wasting their time and resources celebrating Mother's and Father's Days in the first place?

You mean like asking kids to make a Mother/Father's day card in art block instead of making a paper-mache blob? I'm amazed that this abuse of resources and time has been allowed to continue. It truly is an abomination of the most significant proportions.

No, just pointles and frivolous, you drama queen.

As opposed to the non-descript, paper-mache blob?


No, that would be pointless too. And I still don't see why schools should be involved in the celebration in the first place.
 
2013-05-19 11:20:44 AM

Dansker: WhippingBoy: Dansker: WhippingBoy: Dansker: Lsherm: For fark's sake, unless they are orphans one of the days is going to apply to them.

For fark's sake, why are schools wasting their time and resources celebrating Mother's and Father's Days in the first place?

You mean like asking kids to make a Mother/Father's day card in art block instead of making a paper-mache blob? I'm amazed that this abuse of resources and time has been allowed to continue. It truly is an abomination of the most significant proportions.

No, just pointles and frivolous, you drama queen.

As opposed to the non-descript, paper-mache blob?

No, that would be pointless too. And I still don't see why schools should be involved in the celebration in the first place.


So? Who the hell cares what you think?
 
2013-05-19 11:21:30 AM
What if you don't have a family?
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2013-05-19 11:24:18 AM

Fano:
I'm glad we have such efficient Farkers keeping an eye on every penny of government expenditure, which I'm sure they apply to every branch. The banker from Mary Poppins would be proud.


Why are you guys defending Mother's Day in schools with such fervor? I thought traditions had to be at least a hundred years old, before conservatives would acknowledge them
 
2013-05-19 11:24:26 AM

EkimProx: What if you don't have a family?
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No need for that type of language...
 
2013-05-19 11:24:47 AM
Why not just add holidays for the sperm donor, egg donor, and turkey baster recipient?

What teachers union is going to stand in the way of additional paid holidays?
 
2013-05-19 11:24:55 AM
What about people who don't have a mother?  Mother's Day can suck for a kid whose mother took off.  But let's keep criticizing gay couples who want to give a child love and support.
 
2013-05-19 11:26:09 AM

WhippingBoy:
So? Who the hell cares what you think?


You, clearly.
 
2013-05-19 11:26:38 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Some kids may not have a mom or a dad. Father's Day was a painful time for my son back when he was in school.


What....he went to school on Sundays?
 
2013-05-19 11:31:20 AM

jtown: farking ridiculous.  My parents got divorced around the time I started school and I lived with my mom.  Not once did I end up talking to a therapist because of Father's Day.  I don't think a single one of my friends has ever met my dad.  Oh, wait.  A few might have met him at high school graduation.  Non-nucular families weren't exotic in the 70s and 80s and the sure as Hell aren't unusual now.  Heck, when I was a kid, a family with mom dad and 2.3 happy kids were the exception.


I was a kid in the seventies and none of my friends' parents were divorced. If any of my other classmates' parents were, they never talked about it.
 
2013-05-19 11:34:29 AM

95BV5: jtown: farking ridiculous.  My parents got divorced around the time I started school and I lived with my mom.  Not once did I end up talking to a therapist because of Father's Day.  I don't think a single one of my friends has ever met my dad.  Oh, wait.  A few might have met him at high school graduation.  Non-nucular families weren't exotic in the 70s and 80s and the sure as Hell aren't unusual now.  Heck, when I was a kid, a family with mom dad and 2.3 happy kids were the exception.

I was a kid in the seventies and none of my friends' parents were divorced. If any of my other classmates' parents were, they never talked about it.


Well, that's why you should be careful not to believe that your personal experience is the statistical average.

www.afajournal.org
 
2013-05-19 11:36:05 AM
static.tvtropes.org
 
2013-05-19 11:37:51 AM

E5bie: Cuchulane: Why is any of this silliness brought up in school in the first place? Stick to learning useful information in school.

Because every single day in elementary school must be a holiday, or celebration, or themed in some way.
Heaven forbid we get through a week without a pile of colored paper shapes.


I used to be in a stepfamily support group, and there is an amazing amount of angst around MD and FD. There's your step-parent who feels slighted because they got no school-made present from the kids they'd been raising while the kid's deadbeat non-custodial parent got a present. There's your butthurt biomom who's offended that her kid made 2 presents, one for her and one for the kid's stepmom.
 
2013-05-19 11:40:44 AM
Oops, phone posted before I was done. Anyway, the drama stirred up often ended in tears for the children who are stuck in the middle between adults who act like children.
 
2013-05-19 11:48:14 AM
My Dad wasn't around when I grew up, and I have zero memory of what I did for Father's Day at school. I am sure we, as a class, did something, because I have memories of making crap for Mother's Day for my Mom. I guess my point is, it obviously had little to no impact on me that I am not even able to remember it.
  I don't see why 1)They have to end that tradition in the first place 2)Are blaming ending that tradition on kids with same-sex parents, when there are plenty of kids with only one parent to begin with.
 
2013-05-19 11:48:22 AM

Eponymous: Bathia_Mapes: Some kids may not have a mom or a dad. Father's Day was a painful time for my son back when he was in school.

What....he went to school on Sundays?


No, but when he was in elementary school it was quite common for the teachers, especially in the lower grades, to have art projects where the kids made cards for their mothers or fathers, depending on which upcoming holiday it was. The kids were expected to take home the cards they made and give them to their mother on Mother's Day, father on Father's Day.
 
2013-05-19 11:51:01 AM

WhippingBoy: EkimProx: What if you don't have a family?
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No need for that type of language...


95BV5: jtown: farking ridiculous.  My parents got divorced around the time I started school and I lived with my mom.  Not once did I end up talking to a therapist because of Father's Day.  I don't think a single one of my friends has ever met my dad.  Oh, wait.  A few might have met him at high school graduation.  Non-nucular families weren't exotic in the 70s and 80s and the sure as Hell aren't unusual now.  Heck, when I was a kid, a family with mom dad and 2.3 happy kids were the exception.

I was a kid in the seventies and none of my friends' parents were divorced. If any of my other classmates' parents were, they never talked about it.


your friends dads were probably beating their wives into submission.  IMHO I'd take infidelity/ divorces /single parenting over that any day of the week.
 
2013-05-19 11:53:25 AM

gimmegimme: 95BV5: jtown: farking ridiculous.  My parents got divorced around the time I started school and I lived with my mom.  Not once did I end up talking to a therapist because of Father's Day.  I don't think a single one of my friends has ever met my dad.  Oh, wait.  A few might have met him at high school graduation.  Non-nucular families weren't exotic in the 70s and 80s and the sure as Hell aren't unusual now.  Heck, when I was a kid, a family with mom dad and 2.3 happy kids were the exception.

I was a kid in the seventies and none of my friends' parents were divorced. If any of my other classmates' parents were, they never talked about it.

Well, that's why you should be careful not to believe that your personal experience is the statistical average.


Damn. I feel sorry for the kids over in Divorceville then.
 
2013-05-19 11:55:48 AM

Nabb1: I never realized that this was such a controversial issue for some people. For Christ's sake it just a little day to do something extra for mom and dad.


Dansker: Fano:
I'm glad we have such efficient Farkers keeping an eye on every penny of government expenditure, which I'm sure they apply to every branch. The banker from Mary Poppins would be proud.

Why are you guys defending Mother's Day in schools with such fervor? I thought traditions had to be at least a hundred years old, before conservatives would acknowledge them


I went back and rechecked the thread, and this was as much fervor as I could find. The only other pro parent's day posts were along the lines of "suck it, gaybobs," and don't count. Anyway, conservatives acknowledge plenty of traditions less than a hundred years old, like saying "Under God," during the pledge of allegiance.
 
2013-05-19 11:55:52 AM

soozbot: I don't see why 1)They have to end that tradition in the first place 2)Are blaming ending that tradition on kids with same-sex parents, when there are plenty of kids with only one parent to begin with.


I don't see why you assume "non-traditional family" can only mean "same-sex parents" and not a single mother or father.
 
2013-05-19 11:57:02 AM

golem222: The real problem is the erosion of tradition to appease a small minority group.  Look i know that if your parents are gay it might be uncomfortable for you to celebrate these days, after all its just one more reminder of the abnormality of your situation.  Or if a parent passed away the day might be sad for you, however for the vast majority these situations do not apply.


Traditions never last forever, no matter how much you want them to, just like everything else. They never stay the same either, something always changes every so often and soon the original tradition is long gone. And yes, having two parents is rather abnormal these days.

What's funniest is how you believe one school being stupid = everyone attacking a tradition that was created only to sell flowers and ties.
 
2013-05-19 11:57:28 AM
Leon will be happy.
 
2013-05-19 11:58:36 AM

Dansker: soozbot: I don't see why 1)They have to end that tradition in the first place 2)Are blaming ending that tradition on kids with same-sex parents, when there are plenty of kids with only one parent to begin with.

I don't see why you assume "non-traditional family" can only mean "same-sex parents" and not a single mother or father.


Because I am basing this off of subby's headline. Didn't read TFA because at the end of the day, I could care less about made-up holidays.
 
2013-05-19 11:58:53 AM

chocolate covered poop: WhippingBoy: EkimProx: What if you don't have a family?
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No need for that type of language...

95BV5: jtown: farking ridiculous.  My parents got divorced around the time I started school and I lived with my mom.  Not once did I end up talking to a therapist because of Father's Day.  I don't think a single one of my friends has ever met my dad.  Oh, wait.  A few might have met him at high school graduation.  Non-nucular families weren't exotic in the 70s and 80s and the sure as Hell aren't unusual now.  Heck, when I was a kid, a family with mom dad and 2.3 happy kids were the exception.

I was a kid in the seventies and none of my friends' parents were divorced. If any of my other classmates' parents were, they never talked about it.

your friends dads were probably beating their wives into submission.  IMHO I'd take infidelity/ divorces /single parenting over that any day of the week.


Why do you only assume the men were committing acts of domestic violence?
 
2013-05-19 12:00:23 PM
Didn't read TFA*

Dansker: soozbot: I don't see why 1)They have to end that tradition in the first place 2)Are blaming ending that tradition on kids with same-sex parents, when there are plenty of kids with only one parent to begin with.

I don't see why you assume "non-traditional family" can only mean "same-sex parents" and not a single mother or father.


*Didn't READ TFA... It's 11AM, but still very early for my tired brain.
 
2013-05-19 12:02:07 PM
Why stop there? They should immediately expel any kid who dares to talk about their mother and father because some kid from a broken home might get their feelings hurt.
 
2013-05-19 12:05:10 PM

Fano:
I went back and rechecked the thread, and this was as much fervor as I could find.


Then maybe you know how I felt when trying to figure out how I became a spokesman for Farkers, and why I would make the banker from Mary Poppins proud. I'm just asking why minor commercial holidays like that are subject to school celebration in North America, because in Denmark they're not.
I'm sorry I asked such a difficult question.
 
2013-05-19 12:09:18 PM

Dansker: Fano:
I went back and rechecked the thread, and this was as much fervor as I could find.

Then maybe you know how I felt when trying to figure out how I became a spokesman for Farkers, and why I would make the banker from Mary Poppins proud. I'm just asking why minor commercial holidays like that are subject to school celebration in North America, because in Denmark they're not.
I'm sorry I asked such a difficult question.


Because the celebration you're referring to essentially boils down to having the kids spend half an hour to make a card. Basically adding a theme to an art project that was going to be done anyway. Do you think schools close down for Mother/Fathers day and everyone has a big parade or something?
 
2013-05-19 12:11:12 PM

WhippingBoy: Why stop there? They should immediately expel any kid who dares to talk about their mother and father because some kid from a broken home might get their feelings hurt.


Now that's fervor!
 
2013-05-19 12:11:22 PM

WhippingBoy: Why stop there? They should immediately expel any kid who dares to talk about their mother and father because some kid from a broken home might get their feelings hurt.


First you whine about something, then you demand we add to it. Make up your mind.
 
2013-05-19 12:13:44 PM

WhippingBoy: Dansker: Fano:
I went back and rechecked the thread, and this was as much fervor as I could find.

Then maybe you know how I felt when trying to figure out how I became a spokesman for Farkers, and why I would make the banker from Mary Poppins proud. I'm just asking why minor commercial holidays like that are subject to school celebration in North America, because in Denmark they're not.
I'm sorry I asked such a difficult question.

Because the celebration you're referring to essentially boils down to having the kids spend half an hour to make a card. Basically adding a theme to an art project that was going to be done anyway. Do you think schools close down for Mother/Fathers day and everyone has a big parade or something?


No, and since it's so insignificant, why are you so upset that a small school in Canada has stopped it?
 
2013-05-19 12:20:03 PM

Dansker: WhippingBoy: Dansker: Fano:
I went back and rechecked the thread, and this was as much fervor as I could find.

Then maybe you know how I felt when trying to figure out how I became a spokesman for Farkers, and why I would make the banker from Mary Poppins proud. I'm just asking why minor commercial holidays like that are subject to school celebration in North America, because in Denmark they're not.
I'm sorry I asked such a difficult question.

Because the celebration you're referring to essentially boils down to having the kids spend half an hour to make a card. Basically adding a theme to an art project that was going to be done anyway. Do you think schools close down for Mother/Fathers day and everyone has a big parade or something?

No, and since it's so insignificant, why are you so upset that a small school in Canada has stopped it?


Uh, I was responding to an overwhelming tide of people right from the Boobies "good. fark holidays. kids shouldn't be wasting their time and money."

It sure sounded like "tuppence for bread? Bah, what will that get you? FAT BIRDS!."
 
2013-05-19 12:20:39 PM
If you have a single mother as your only parent how about celebrating Welfare day instead of Father's Day.
 
2013-05-19 12:20:51 PM

WhippingBoy: Do you think schools close down for Mother/Fathers day and everyone has a big parade or something?


On second thought, schools ARE closed on Mother's and Father's Day, even in Denmark.
 
2013-05-19 12:21:22 PM

armoredbulldozer: As if snowflakes don't get their heads farked up enough by our government, president etc.  The next kid that shoots up a school will probably be the demonchild of a couple of homos.


"Dey see me trollin', dey hatin'."
 
2013-05-19 12:28:55 PM

Fano:
It sure sounded like "tuppence for bread? Bah, what will that get you? FAT BIRDS!."


They're called glandular challenged women, you insensitive clod!
 
2013-05-19 12:31:51 PM

gimmegimme: chocolate covered poop: WhippingBoy: EkimProx: What if you don't have a family?
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No need for that type of language...

95BV5: jtown: farking ridiculous.  My parents got divorced around the time I started school and I lived with my mom.  Not once did I end up talking to a therapist because of Father's Day.  I don't think a single one of my friends has ever met my dad.  Oh, wait.  A few might have met him at high school graduation.  Non-nucular families weren't exotic in the 70s and 80s and the sure as Hell aren't unusual now.  Heck, when I was a kid, a family with mom dad and 2.3 happy kids were the exception.

I was a kid in the seventies and none of my friends' parents were divorced. If any of my other classmates' parents were, they never talked about it.

your friends dads were probably beating their wives into submission.  IMHO I'd take infidelity/ divorces /single parenting over that any day of the week.

Why do you only assume the men were committing acts of domestic violence?


Really wasn't the implication I was going for.  My point was that its possible to have what appears to be a traditional happy family by society's standards that is actually farked up behind the scenes.

  And while, yes, there is such a thing as the wife being the abuser, it is rare, and there is data out there that can back it up.  Just look at police reports on domestic abuse cases and tally the sexes of the aggressors.  I'll grant you that men might be less inclined to admit the situation to the police, but still...come on.  Men and women are genetically different, its hard scientific fact.  And with that come some behavioral and physical tendencies that are in large part biased towards one sex or the other.  "sexism" is a physical reality.  I'm not saying I agree with or support gender specific roles, just that from an evolutionary biology perspective, there are undeniable and sometimes unsettling differences between the sexes.  and our cognitive capacity makes us aware of these things and I admit that maybe its a moral dilemma better suited for philosophy than biology...
 
2013-05-19 12:32:48 PM

Dansker: Fano:
It sure sounded like "tuppence for bread? Bah, what will that get you? FAT BIRDS!."

They're called glandular challenged women, you insensitive clod!


lol
 
2013-05-19 12:33:23 PM
Does this mean we can stop celebrating sweetest day and valentines day cause it's oppressive and sexist to send out rape literature and food in exchange for affection?
 
2013-05-19 12:34:55 PM
My dad died when my mum was pregnant with me, so on Father's Day when we made cards I would just give mine to the janitor. I don't think he was a dad, but it always seemed to make him happy.
 
2013-05-19 12:39:30 PM
It is imperative that we coddle, protect, insulate and endlessly cater to children all the way up until they come of that magical age where we can boot them to the curb, pat them on the head and say "everything we told you is bullsh*t, the world is a vile sh*thole and rotsa ruck, you're gonna need it."  It's the American way.
 
2013-05-19 12:44:11 PM

bunner: It is imperative that we coddle, protect, insulate and endlessly cater to children...


It's imperative that children are taught how to make greeting cards, is what I learned from this thread.
 
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