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(The New York Times)   Gigantic pile of coke discovered in Detroit. Why is this news? Well, by "gigantic," the story means "an entire city block"   (nytimes.com) divider line 148
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2013-05-18 02:09:18 PM  
Things go better with it, I hear.
 
2013-05-18 02:22:03 PM  
Detroit's ever-growing black mountain is the unloved, unwanted and long overlooked byproduct of

I stopped reading right there. Racist bastards!
 
2013-05-18 02:27:51 PM  
Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.



Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.
 
2013-05-18 02:34:18 PM  

jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.


Ummm wouldn't that be the storage companies fault?

Michigan's state environmental regulatory agency has submitted a formal request to Detroit Bulk Storage, the company holding the material for Koch Carbon, to change its storage methods.
 
2013-05-18 02:40:30 PM  
Good thing oil sands are safe

Oh jeez....the Cock Brothers own it....surprise surprise.
 
2013-05-18 02:53:30 PM  
If it's New Coke, I can certainly see the problem.
 
2013-05-18 02:56:07 PM  
If we build the Keystone XL pipeline, we'll have all the problems of the tar sands and all that oil will head somewhere else.

Won't that be awesome.
 
2013-05-18 02:58:28 PM  

Tellingthem: jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.

Ummm wouldn't that be the storage companies fault?

Michigan's state environmental regulatory agency has submitted a formal request to Detroit Bulk Storage, the company holding the material for Koch Carbon, to change its storage methods.


really???
so you are saying, that the producers are allowed to DUMP the waste on a crappy storage company and are exempt from regulations??
HAHAHAHAHA

do you know the definition of PATSY?

Wouldn't every company use this method to cheaply dump their toxic waste?
"Well, the company I hired to store the waste looked legit! I guess you will hate to sue them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA'
 
2013-05-18 03:00:11 PM  
Yeah, it's ugly, but is the pile actually dangerous? The EPA would be all over them if it were.
 
2013-05-18 03:04:02 PM  

namatad: Tellingthem: jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.

Ummm wouldn't that be the storage companies fault?

Michigan's state environmental regulatory agency has submitted a formal request to Detroit Bulk Storage, the company holding the material for Koch Carbon, to change its storage methods.

really???
so you are saying, that the producers are allowed to DUMP the waste on a crappy storage company and are exempt from regulations??
HAHAHAHAHA

do you know the definition of PATSY?

Wouldn't every company use this method to cheaply dump their toxic waste?
"Well, the company I hired to store the waste looked legit! I guess you will hate to sue them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA'


well if you go to their website...

Link

Detroit Bulk Storage is a dry bulk commodities storage facility with docks located in River Rouge, MI and Marine City, MI. Established in 1985, these deep draft facilities have asphalt pads that store aggregate, salt, coal, coke and other products from lake freighter and barges.

So a storage company that stores coke...is storing coke...wow i'm shocked
 
2013-05-18 03:04:14 PM  
Trying to educate myself on petroleum coke and found this.

PDF warning:

http://priceofoil.org/content/uploads/2013/01/OCI.Petcoke.FINALSCREE N. pdf
 
2013-05-18 03:12:37 PM  

Tellingthem: namatad: Tellingthem: jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.

Ummm wouldn't that be the storage companies fault?

Michigan's state environmental regulatory agency has submitted a formal request to Detroit Bulk Storage, the company holding the material for Koch Carbon, to change its storage methods.

really???
so you are saying, that the producers are allowed to DUMP the waste on a crappy storage company and are exempt from regulations??
HAHAHAHAHA

do you know the definition of PATSY?

Wouldn't every company use this method to cheaply dump their toxic waste?
"Well, the company I hired to store the waste looked legit! I guess you will hate to sue them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA'

well if you go to their website... Link

Detroit Bulk Storage is a dry bulk commodities storage facility with docks located in River Rouge, MI and Marine City, MI. Established in 1985, these deep draft facilities have asphalt pads that store aggregate, salt, coal, coke and other products from lake freighter and barges.

So a storage company that stores coke...is storing coke...wow i'm shocked


But the scheme the Cock Brothers are pulling is pretty obvious: shield themselves through this other company.
 
2013-05-18 03:13:00 PM  
In the Fark Bogeymen tournament bracket, the Koch brothers are a 1 seed, and have the third highest odds of winning after Israel and Dick Cheney.
 
2013-05-18 03:26:20 PM  
It's a solid carbon of some kind?  Just bury it...
 
2013-05-18 03:28:11 PM  
That stuff can be dangerously combustible in dry conditions.

Better get some coke-soakers in there, pronto.
 
2013-05-18 03:28:44 PM  
I like black coke over white coke anyway. I got the jungle fever, and I got it bad
 
2013-05-18 03:30:26 PM  
FINALLY!

Living in Detroit pays off!!!
 
2013-05-18 03:32:14 PM  
Oh...OH...

Goddamnitsomuch.
 
2013-05-18 03:32:24 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: That stuff can be dangerously combustible in dry conditions.

Better get some coke-soakers in there, pronto.


...I kinda want to see the headline for a massive coke fire in Detroit.
 
2013-05-18 03:32:59 PM  

jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.


One hundred years from now these two brothers and Dick Cheney are goung to be seen as the most evil industrialists that the US has ever suffered. A special place in Hell is reserved for them.
 
2013-05-18 03:35:03 PM  
New Jack City was Wesley Snipes' best role
 
2013-05-18 03:36:13 PM  
I love how fark libtards go all conspiracy theorist and claim the Koch bros own the storage company as a front. You guys are farking wacky
 
2013-05-18 03:38:17 PM  
Ah, it's high sulfur. That's why it's not being burned.
 
2013-05-18 03:38:18 PM  
Meh. I'd rather have the petroleum coke than Detroit.

Oh, and, OMFG FAUX NEWS! OMFG KOCH BROTHERS! OMFG BUSH!
 
2013-05-18 03:38:52 PM  

Captain Dan: st odds of winning after Israe


As the saying goes, if the shoe fits. And it does often does seem to fit where these 2 are concerned.
 
2013-05-18 03:38:59 PM  

Astorix: jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.

One hundred years from now these two brothers and Dick Cheney are goung to be seen as the most evil industrialists that the US has ever suffered. A special place in Hell is reserved for them.


The problem with the special place in hell is that Dick Cheney, at least, is immortal.

Deal with the devil and all that.
 
2013-05-18 03:39:11 PM  
/oblig
 
2013-05-18 03:40:41 PM  
sonofabiatch
i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-05-18 03:40:47 PM  
It's sequestered carbon. You just need to print up some credit certificates for it and sell them to enviro-hippies.
 
2013-05-18 03:42:38 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: If it's New Coke Koch, I can certainly see the problem.


FTFY
 
2013-05-18 03:44:02 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Hey, guys!
 
2013-05-18 03:44:30 PM  
iancul.com
With offices in Kansas as well.
 
2013-05-18 03:47:15 PM  

jake_lex: Hey, time for a real shocker, look who's responsible for that huge ugly pile of crap in Detroit:


And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.

The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel.


Seriously, these guys have long since entered supervillain  territory.


===============

Yup, it's like a real life version of SPECTRE.    I'm afraid Sean Connery is too old to do anything about it.
 
2013-05-18 03:47:49 PM  
Where's Marion Berry when you need him?
 
2013-05-18 03:48:47 PM  

stirfrybry: I love how fark libtards go all conspiracy theorist and claim the Koch bros own the storage company as a front. You guys are farking wacky


Because no company in the history of ever has used another company to shield them from the consequences of their actions.
 
2013-05-18 03:51:42 PM  

Astorix: One hundred years from now these two brothers ... ... are going to be seen as the most evil industrialists that the US has ever suffered. A special place in Hell is reserved for them.


Given that ALEC took over Michigan, I'm not so sure about that.  That, and people are revising history to cleanse the late 1800's-1940's of any unsavory material; think of how much they'll do to preserve the Approved Line.
 
2013-05-18 03:52:51 PM  
I kind of tuned out about the fourth paragraph on how evil the Koch brothers are. Were there any allegations that anything illegal was going on?
 
2013-05-18 03:53:08 PM  
gigantic pile of coke

i780.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-18 03:54:20 PM  

SpikeStrip: gigantic pile of coke

[i780.photobucket.com image 400x400]


That's, like, 50 blown saves right there.

HAHAHHAHAHA...Phil Coke is appropriately named because he's always "blow"ing saves.  Well, that brightened my day.
 
2013-05-18 04:01:29 PM  
jake_lex:
Because no company in the history of ever has used another company to shield them from the consequences of their actions.

...and no other company in the history of even longer than that has stored piles of stuff outdoors while waiting for a market.

Here's the thing: if it were dangerous or illegal, the Obama-ruled EPA would be jumping all over this. Think of it as a giant IRS audit just waiting to happen.
 
2013-05-18 04:03:04 PM  
We can have the worlds largest BBQ. \o/
 
2013-05-18 04:09:24 PM  

Sudlow: I kind of tuned out about the fourth paragraph on how evil the Koch brothers are. Were there any allegations that anything illegal was going on?


These are the kind of people who determine what's legal or not through campaign contributions and lobbyists.  That's kind of the problem.
 
2013-05-18 04:09:46 PM  
Oh, and from a more-accurate Detroit Free Press article:

"The Department of Environmental Quality is preparing a report on storage of the material so close to the river. The pet coke is supposed to be shipped out once the ice melts, agency officials said.

The agency conducted inspections last week of the first site, at 15th Street and West Jefferson, said Chris Ethridge, southeast Michigan district supervisor of the air-quality division. Inspections of the second site, at Clark Street and Jefferson, are forthcoming.

He said he didn't know how many tons of pet coke were in the piles or where they could be headed. He also said he didn't know whether there were more shipments expected, or if this was a one-time storage situation. The Marathon spokesman declined to discuss pet coke sales.

Ethridge said the company intends to store the pet coke where it is until the river is clear of ice, at which point, the material would be sent by ship to Detroit Bulk Storage clients."
 
2013-05-18 04:12:46 PM  
I've gotta say,  submitter, when I opened this article and saw Detroit in it, I was not expecting what I found. Bravo, Sir. +1 internet.

1.bp.blogspot.com

CUT HIS HEAD OFF. THEN TAKE HIM TO BE TORTURED!
 
2013-05-18 04:14:01 PM  
This is not the first or second type of coke i expected.
 
2013-05-18 04:23:55 PM  
Rusty Shackleford: That stuff can be dangerously combustible in dry conditions.

Better get some coke-soakers in there, pronto.


In my experience, coke usually just dissolves when it gets wet.  Problem solved!!
 
2013-05-18 04:24:47 PM  
Oh man. So Canada has millions of tonnes for American supervillains to sell to third world countries to create more dirty air.

I don't even think a thousand David Suzukis could make up for this.
 
2013-05-18 04:26:10 PM  

cirby: jake_lex:
Because no company in the history of ever has used another company to shield them from the consequences of their actions.

...and no other company in the history of even longer than that has stored piles of stuff outdoors while waiting for a market.

Here's the thing: if it were dangerous or illegal, the Obama-ruled EPA would be jumping all over this. Think of it as a giant IRS audit just waiting to happen.


The pile's actually in Canada...does the EPA have jurisdiction?  Through that joint commission thing mentioned in the article, I suppose there could be some legal hook there...
 
2013-05-18 04:26:17 PM  
Sudlow: I kind of tuned out about the fourth paragraph on how evil the Koch brothers are. Were there any allegations that anything illegal was going on?

These are the kind of people who determine what's legal or not through campaign contributions and lobbyists. That's kind of the problem.

Like the Sierra Club, or NRDC, or Fund for Animals, for instance?
 
2013-05-18 04:26:51 PM  

Tellingthem: Ummm wouldn't that be the storage companies fault?


Even money says this "storage company" is also owned and controlled, perhaps through legal intermediaries, by Koch Carbon.
=Smidge=
 
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