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(Huffington Post)   Paul Stanley says KISS doesn't need to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because their fans already know they're the "best band in the universe"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 143
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2013-05-18 10:09:12 AM
Lousy novelty band for simpletons and mouth-breathers.
 
2013-05-18 10:23:00 AM
I wanna rock and roll all day, and party every night.

Repeat 50 times, call it a song and 50,000 mouth breathers howl, sing along and light their Bics.
 
2013-05-18 10:39:10 AM
I thought it was because they were a disco band.
 
2013-05-18 10:52:21 AM
I like to rock and roll part of every day. I usually have errands. I can rock and roll from like one to three.
 
2013-05-18 10:57:57 AM
They are a weak-ass band and they should feel bad.
 
2013-05-18 11:29:12 AM
they're shoo-ins for the merchandising hall of fame. Which should make them feel better, since that's pretty much all they seem to care about.
 
2013-05-18 11:59:31 AM
Oh, look, a music hipster thread where everyone can masturbate about how Neil Peart's wanky, pointless drum solos are the best thing evar and find out which bands they should no longer be listening to because a second person has heard of that band.

Everyone point and laugh.

/Kiss should be in the rock and roll hall of fame. If they let Rush in, anyone can make it in.
 
2013-05-18 12:26:24 PM
No, Paul Stanley. The correct answer is The Beatles. And you will NEVER, EVER been as good as them.
 
2013-05-18 12:31:22 PM

Bathia_Mapes: No, Paul Stanley. The correct answer is The Beatles. And you will NEVER, EVER been as good as them.


To  be fair, Kiss isn't even as good as The Monkees.

/have you heard Mike Nesmith's stuff?
 
2013-05-18 12:48:19 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Oh, look, a music hipster thread where everyone can masturbate about how Neil Peart's wanky, pointless drum solos are the best thing evar and find out which bands they should no longer be listening to because a second person has heard of that band.

Everyone point and laugh.

/Kiss should be in the rock and roll hall of fame. If they let Rush in, anyone can make it in.


Of all the ridiculous members of the RRHOF (Madonna, for example) and you chose Rush to make your point?

I shudder to think what you must listen to.
 
2013-05-18 12:48:29 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Oh, look, a music hipster thread where everyone can masturbate about how Neil Peart's wanky, pointless drum solos are the best thing evar and find out which bands they should no longer be listening to because a second person has heard of that band.

Everyone point and laugh.

/Kiss should be in the rock and roll hall of fame. If they let Rush in, anyone can make it in.


Letting Rush in is totally a pity fark. Triumph will be asking for their pity fark in a couple of years as well.
 
2013-05-18 12:58:27 PM
Well at least they're rock. They have rap acts in that farking thing.
 
2013-05-18 01:01:49 PM
Stanley, who has been making the media rounds to publicize the opening of a new branch of his Rock & Brews restaurant chain, questioned the legitimacy of the hall itself.

"Look, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is marketing," he said, without a shred of shame or even remote understanding the irony of such a statement .


FTF the article.
 
2013-05-18 01:08:26 PM

Mugato: Well at least they're rock. They have rap acts in that farking thing.


Not that I give a flying turd about the R&RHOF, but I'd suggest to you that where it counts, Public Enemy is 10x the rock act Kiss ever was: attitude.

Public Enemy is about rebellion and controversy as much as it is about the music.

Kiss as a band is little more than a kid-friendly delivery system for Kiss themed merchandise. And they've managed to get extremely rich as a result. So its a little late to start whining about the trajectory of their career.
 
2013-05-18 01:17:38 PM
Meh, I only know like 4 KISS songs... but who cares, they're fun.  Saw them live once, and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a fairly cool experience.
 
2013-05-18 01:17:50 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Bathia_Mapes: No, Paul Stanley. The correct answer is The Beatles. And you will NEVER, EVER been as good as them.

To  be fair, Kiss isn't even as good as The Monkees.

/have you heard Mike Nesmith's stuff?


Yep
 
2013-05-18 01:34:15 PM
Considering KISS' manufactured history, tag should be: Obvious
 
2013-05-18 01:51:25 PM
As a Pink Floyd fan, I must vociferously refute Mr. Stanley's assertion that KISS is the best band in the universe.
 
2013-05-18 01:58:25 PM

downstairs: Meh, I only know like 4 KISS songs... but who cares, they're fun.  Saw them live once, and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a fairly cool experience.


Kiss was one of my first concert experiences when they were having a fair well tour or similar. Was great showmanship. Guitars on fire, blood, lasting notes, interacting with the crowd, etc., marked where concerts should be on those large venues.
 
2013-05-18 02:00:42 PM
KISS is a fun band who makes enjoyable music that kicks ass. But they're not making music that million other artists couldn't have. Their image ans marketing are groundbreaking, but that's hardly HoF-worthy. And since this is a RRHoF worthiness thread, my list is Deep Purple, Steppenwolf, Judas Priest, Ozzy as a solo artist, BOC, and it's seriously time to start getting some grunge in there (yes, X'ers, it's been 25 years.), I'd say Nirvana is a safe bet, and Pearl Jam, maybe Soundgarden and STP.
 
2013-05-18 02:06:39 PM
Saw them in concert once to see what all the fuss was about. Not a fan, but honestly, they belong on the HOF.
 
2013-05-18 02:06:48 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I'd say Nirvana is a safe bet, and Pearl Jam, maybe Soundgarden and STP.


Alice in Chains is eligible and deserving (new album!), Soundgarden needs to be in, Nirvana is obvious, Pearl Jam isn't eligible, and Stone Temple Pilots are eligible but not seeing an influence the way the other three have. Judas Priest, Ozzy, and Deep Purple do need to be in, too; not a fan of Ozzy, but whatever.
 
2013-05-18 02:11:36 PM

Vangor: downstairs: Meh, I only know like 4 KISS songs... but who cares, they're fun.  Saw them live once, and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a fairly cool experience.

Kiss was one of my first concert experiences when they were having a fair well tour or similar. Was great showmanship. Guitars on fire, blood, lasting notes, interacting with the crowd, etc., marked where concerts should be on those large venues.


Not sure how old you are, or what year you're referring to, but mine was just a few years ago.  Granted, I had a VIP pass to a festival down here, and got to be in the 3rd-ish row for KISS.  It proved to me that not all rock and roll has to be serious and meaningful.  Even at their old age, they bring 100x more energy to their shows than most bands do... and they never phone it in.  Its fun, and they make it fun for the crowd 100% of the time.

I've seen Bob Dylan live, completely phoning it in.  Is KISS better than Bob Dylan in total?  Hell, no.  But if you're looking to slam back a few beers and have a good time- you're guarunteed to get that with KISS.
 
2013-05-18 02:13:12 PM

Mugato: Well at least they're rock. They have rap acts in that farking thing.


Beastie Boys are more rock than KISS.  Public Enemy is more rock than KISS.  Hell, Grandmaster Flash is more rock than KISS.  KISS is to rock music what Poison, Warrant, Winger, and Ratt were to metal.
 
2013-05-18 02:15:22 PM
This is the best introduction of "The best band in the farking universe".  Her words not mine
 
2013-05-18 02:15:37 PM
Refreshingly honest rock and roll band
 
2013-05-18 02:16:52 PM
Somewhere someone thinkgs ICP is the best band in the universe.  Just because someone believes it doesn't make it true.
 
2013-05-18 02:17:00 PM
Any true rock and roll band, upon being nominated, would tell the HOF to go fark themselves.
 
2013-05-18 02:17:33 PM

Vangor: Alice in Chains is eligible and deserving (new album!), Soundgarden needs to be in, Nirvana is obvious, Pearl Jam isn't eligible, and Stone Temple Pilots are eligible but not seeing an influence the way the other three have. Judas Priest, Ozzy, and Deep Purple do need to be in, too; not a fan of Ozzy, but whatever.


AIC isn't yet.  First album was 1990, the rule is 25 years from their frist release.  So that would be 2015.  As it stands in 2013, your first album needed to be released in 1988 or earlier.  Also Nirvana's first album was 1989... so they'll be the first grunge act to go in.

I don't think STP is diserving, personally... but they also won't be eligible for quite awhile.  First album was 1992.
 
2013-05-18 02:20:48 PM

LDM90: Any true rock and roll band, upon being nominated, would tell the HOF to go fark themselves.


It's been done...

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/09/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-is-p is s.html
 
2013-05-18 02:22:07 PM

satanorsanta: This is the best introduction of "The best band in the farking universe".  Her words not mine


That was awesome!
 
2013-05-18 02:35:18 PM
RRHOF is a joke. Justin Bieber will be inducted before Chicago, Journey, Styx or Kiss get in. Public Enemy? Really? Who's next? Eminem? They're a joke.
 
2013-05-18 02:47:02 PM
IMO, NOT being inducted into the Suck & Sell Hall of Fame is a sign of TRUE greatness.
 
2013-05-18 02:47:58 PM
Here's some fun KISS trivia: Dick Cheney believes the greatest song ever written is Beth.
 
2013-05-18 03:02:31 PM

grokca: I thought it was because they were a disco band.


I did not know that.
 
2013-05-18 03:03:15 PM
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2013-05-18 03:08:29 PM

Bathia_Mapes: No, Paul Stanley. The correct answer is The Beatles. And you will NEVER, EVER been as good as them.


I concur. In *greatest* rock and roll band debates, I've never bitten on any "Yeah, but..." discussions.  They're all endless loops.  I simply say, "Listen.  There were the Beatles; and then there was everybody else."

/some people get agitated, but also understand that I'm not being pedantic arse-hole about it

//I'm just fixing a hole, where the rain gets in
 
2013-05-18 03:23:54 PM

SoupJohnB: Bathia_Mapes: No, Paul Stanley. The correct answer is The Beatles. And you will NEVER, EVER been as good as them.

I concur. In *greatest* rock and roll band debates, I've never bitten on any "Yeah, but..." discussions.  They're all endless loops.  I simply say, "Listen.  There were the Beatles; and then there was everybody else."

/some people get agitated, but also understand that I'm not being pedantic arse-hole about it

//I'm just fixing a hole, where the rain gets in


I like some of their stuff, but I'd pick the Stones over the Beatles.  The Beatles are the guy you bring home to meet your parents.  The Stones are the guy you fark in the alley behind your parents house.
 
2013-05-18 03:34:07 PM

downstairs: AIC isn't yet.  First album was 1990, the rule is 25 years from their frist release.  So that would be 2015.  As it stands in 2013, your first album needed to be released in 1988 or earlier.  Also Nirvana's first album was 1989... so they'll be the first grunge act to go in.



Soundgarden would be eligible a year sooner than Nirvana; Ultramega OK was released in '88.
 
2013-05-18 03:34:44 PM

Coco LaFemme: As a Pink Floyd music fan, I must vociferously refute Mr. Stanley's assertion that KISS is the best band in the universe.


FTFY.
 
2013-05-18 03:40:15 PM

Coco LaFemme: SoupJohnB: Bathia_Mapes: No, Paul Stanley. The correct answer is The Beatles. And you will NEVER, EVER been as good as them.

I concur. In *greatest* rock and roll band debates, I've never bitten on any "Yeah, but..." discussions.  They're all endless loops.  I simply say, "Listen.  There were the Beatles; and then there was everybody else."

/some people get agitated, but also understand that I'm not being pedantic arse-hole about it

//I'm just fixing a hole, where the rain gets in

I like some of their stuff, but I'd pick the Stones over the Beatles.  The Beatles are the guy you bring home to meet your parents.  The Stones are the guy you fark in the alley behind your parents house.


Now, see?  You just illustrated my point.  "Paint it Black," or "Good Day, Sunshine."  It's moot, mate.

/"Beggar's Banquet"  was the Best. Stones. Album. Ever

//Your move!
 
2013-05-18 03:46:02 PM

Wasteland: downstairs: AIC isn't yet.  First album was 1990, the rule is 25 years from their frist release.  So that would be 2015.  As it stands in 2013, your first album needed to be released in 1988 or earlier.  Also Nirvana's first album was 1989... so they'll be the first grunge act to go in.


Soundgarden would be eligible a year sooner than Nirvana; Ultramega OK was released in '88.


But grunge still scares the RRHoF crowd, Nirvana will be the first n in, guarantee it.
 
2013-05-18 03:54:30 PM
What's this, then?

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-18 03:57:37 PM

satanorsanta: This is the best introduction of "The best band in the farking universe".  Her words not mine


I would add this one as well.  http://youtu.be/LFqBer329KE
 
2013-05-18 03:58:42 PM
Also when the heck is Cheap Trick gonna be inducted?
 
2013-05-18 04:03:05 PM
The Cure, The Cars, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Iron Maiden, and even Bon Jovi should get in before the action figure salesmen.
 
2013-05-18 04:05:56 PM
They qualify for the Hall of Fame because they are famous, they put on a fun act (never saw them, but that's the consensus) and play rock music.

Being the best band?  Hardly.  Catchy tunes and sploshuns are their trade.  Without the sploshuns and showmanship, can the music stand on its own?  Are their mid-level songs (not their worst nor their best) distinctive of their sound and form, and stand apart from others in the same genre?  Or are they a one-trick pony, serving the same song with slightly different notes or words?

They're McDonalds - fine if it's all you can find, or it's your mood, but shows a distinct lack of breadth or substance if it's all you have.
 
2013-05-18 04:12:20 PM
CSB:

Sometime in the '70s, the neighbor kids decided to dress up as Kiss for Halloween. Being conscientious fans, they did a trial run in September in full get-up, and went door-to-door, polling the neighborhood on whether they "looked enough like Kiss."

My immigrant father, with zero knowledge of American culture, and even less patience for fools, answered the door with his shotgun and threatened to blow their heads off if they ever showed up on his property looking like idiots again.
 
2013-05-18 04:14:40 PM
The R&R HOF has NO CRED whatsoever.
Run DMC and Public Enemy?
COME ON.
 
2013-05-18 04:17:49 PM

Vangor: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I'd say Nirvana is a safe bet, and Pearl Jam, maybe Soundgarden and STP.

Alice in Chains is eligible and deserving (new album!), Soundgarden needs to be in, Nirvana is obvious, Pearl Jam isn't eligible, and Stone Temple Pilots are eligible but not seeing an influence the way the other three have. Judas Priest, Ozzy, and Deep Purple do need to be in, too; not a fan of Ozzy, but whatever.


The new album sounds so much like their early stuff from the Layne Staley era, it's eerie. Choosing William DuVall was a brilliant move in their part. And yes, they are deserving.
 
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