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(Slate)   Now that the American economy has been reignited, Wal-Mart is losing customers left and right. This is bad news... for no one, really   (slate.com) divider line 194
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2013-05-18 01:57:07 PM
It would be interesting to see if Target or Costco sales are higher.  Aspirational shoppers.

/too lazy to look
 
2013-05-18 01:58:00 PM
Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.
 
2013-05-18 01:58:22 PM
But what about muh brick & mortar jobs?
 
2013-05-18 01:59:11 PM
So the economy has been reignited?

THANKS SEQUESTER!!!
 
2013-05-18 02:01:12 PM
Good.
 
2013-05-18 02:03:53 PM
The economy has been reignited?  Really?  So the three foreclosed homes on my block are what the new prosperity looks like?

As for Walmart, I'm gonna guess their customer base is now too poor even for Walmart.
 
2013-05-18 02:07:48 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.


Me too, thanks for the reminder.

Carry on, 'tards.
 
2013-05-18 02:07:59 PM
Slate article about Wal Mart...

media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-18 02:08:14 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.


Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.
 
2013-05-18 02:08:29 PM

cabbyman: So the economy has been reignited?

THANKS SEQUESTER!!!


Not really. A good statistician can do wonders with numbers.
 
2013-05-18 02:10:13 PM
Lol at calling the economy reignited. Just because the stock market is doing well doesn't mean much for the average American. There is a huge difference between what Washington and the media say vs reality. Without the creative accounting we're still farked.
 
2013-05-18 02:12:13 PM
The story is that Walmart isn't paying people enough to be able to afford to shop at Walmart.
 
2013-05-18 02:12:42 PM

12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.


Not sure what Walmart you shop at (Oh, you don't shop at Walmart? Then how do you know they suck?) but the ones I go to are all nicely lit, nicely laid out, have friendly and helpful staff, and have, for the most part (there are exceptions) decent quality merchandise. They all also seem to have a full range of customer types, from the stereotypical "Walmart shopper" to people that I would also see at a Vons Pavilions, Sears, or Nordstroms.
 
2013-05-18 02:13:03 PM

Fissile: The economy has been reignited?  Really?  So the three foreclosed homes on my block are what the new prosperity looks like?

As for Walmart, I'm gonna guess their customer base is now too poor even for Walmart.


Your block != the economy.  But you know that.
 
909
2013-05-18 02:13:20 PM

Infobahn: It would be interesting to see if Target or Costco sales are higher.  Aspirational shoppers.

/too lazy to look


Or alternatively, 99 cent store, Dollar General approve
 
2013-05-18 02:15:22 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.

Not sure what Walmart you shop at (Oh, you don't shop at Walmart? Then how do you know they suck?) but the ones I go to are all nicely lit, nicely laid out, have friendly and helpful staff, and have, for the most part (there are exceptions) decent quality merchandise. They all also seem to have a full range of customer types, from the stereotypical "Walmart shopper" to people that I would also see at a Vons Pavilions, Sears, or Nordstroms.


The Target's and Meijer's in my area are much nicer.
 
2013-05-18 02:15:43 PM
Yes, reignited is the perfect description of our economy /fail
 
2013-05-18 02:17:27 PM
Thank god. Now maybe I can get through the express lane in less than 20 minutes.
 
2013-05-18 02:17:44 PM
"The American economy has been reignited..."

In other news, Big Brother has raised the chocolate ration to 20 grams a week.

Carry on.
 
2013-05-18 02:21:07 PM
The housing bubble deflected attention from the wider problem that technology is eliminating our jerbs left and right. 

Now that the bubble has crashed, we're acutely aware of the fact that we just don't need nearly as many workers as we once did.

AND we continue to crank out babies because God.

This IS the recovery.  Welcome to the new normal.
 
2013-05-18 02:24:21 PM

cabbyman: So the economy has been reignited?

THANKS SEQUESTER!!!


Thanks stimulus.
 
2013-05-18 02:24:57 PM

Fissile: The economy has been reignited?  Really?  So the three foreclosed homes on my block are what the new prosperity looks like?

As for Walmart, I'm gonna guess their customer base is now too poor even for Walmart.


Anecdotal evidence is Fark's favorite kind of evidence.
 
2013-05-18 02:26:05 PM

909: Infobahn: It would be interesting to see if Target or Costco sales are higher.  Aspirational shoppers.

/too lazy to look

Or alternatively, 99 cent store, Dollar General approve


Fair point.
 
2013-05-18 02:26:29 PM

studebaker hoch: The housing bubble deflected attention from the wider problem that technology is eliminating our jerbs left and right. 

Now that the bubble has crashed, we're acutely aware of the fact that we just don't need nearly as many workers as we once did.

AND we continue to crank out babies because God.

This IS the recovery.  Welcome to the new normal.


=============

True, tech has eliminated lots of jobs....I don's see much demand for switchboard operators for example.   Tech has also created many new jobs.  So many new jobs, in fact, that our country can's seem to make babies fast enough, that's why we need to import millions of immigrants, and offshore entire industries.  Yup, IBM is demanding even more H1B workers because there are just too many people here.
 
2013-05-18 02:28:04 PM
The economy has been reignited? I guess I missed that memo.

/just because the Obama sycophant media says something doesn't make it true.
 
2013-05-18 02:30:11 PM
If I need something to last for less than a month or so, I'll get it at Walmart.  But, if I want something to last longer than it takes to show up on a credit card billing cycle, I'll shop online and/or anywhere else I can.

Although I have noticed more made in America stuff back on the shelves at Walmart.
 
2013-05-18 02:30:26 PM

Fissile: Yup, IBM is demanding even more H1B workers because there are just too many people here.


It's a sign that IBM are cheap bastards that don't want to train and properly pay Americans.
 
2013-05-18 02:30:33 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Fissile: The economy has been reignited?  Really?  So the three foreclosed homes on my block are what the new prosperity looks like?

As for Walmart, I'm gonna guess their customer base is now too poor even for Walmart.

Anecdotal evidence is Fark's favorite kind of evidence.


==========

OK, here's some more anecdotal evidence.   My 18 year old niece applied for over 50 mall type jobs without getting a single call back.

The fact remains that the labor participation rate is lower than it's been in 30 years.   Yah, jerbless "recovery"!
 
2013-05-18 02:30:43 PM

12349876: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.

Not sure what Walmart you shop at (Oh, you don't shop at Walmart? Then how do you know they suck?) but the ones I go to are all nicely lit, nicely laid out, have friendly and helpful staff, and have, for the most part (there are exceptions) decent quality merchandise. They all also seem to have a full range of customer types, from the stereotypical "Walmart shopper" to people that I would also see at a Vons Pavilions, Sears, or Nordstroms.

The Target's and Meijer's in my area are much nicer.


Target's what is nicer?
 
2013-05-18 02:31:15 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.

Not sure what Walmart you shop at (Oh, you don't shop at Walmart? Then how do you know they suck?) but the ones I go to are all nicely lit, nicely laid out, have friendly and helpful staff, and have, for the most part (there are exceptions) decent quality merchandise. They all also seem to have a full range of customer types, from the stereotypical "Walmart shopper" to people that I would also see at a Vons Pavilions, Sears, or Nordstroms.


There are a few news one that have opened in Chicago as Wal-Mart expresses and they are pretty nice.
 
2013-05-18 02:32:03 PM

12349876: Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.


Funny, I always seem to get exactly what I want when I shop there. Not once have I had to walk out with something other than the exact brand I was looking for. As for service, what exactly are you looking for? Would you like associates walking around offing assistance in picking out your new undies or trash bags? Never had any problems with cleanliness either. Every Walmart I've been to has been clean, well lit and clutter free. Perhaps you're referring to some of the people that shop there.
 
2013-05-18 02:32:45 PM
I'm about to start shopping at WalMart.  I've never been more than a once or twice a year shopper, usually when I had to get stuff for office parties or picnics.
My hours have been cut by 4 hours per week/8 hours (one day) per paycheck.  Utilities are heading up.  And Wednesday, I underwent an emergency appendectomy, I'll have extra bills associated with that.  I figure their low cost staples will help me out.

/single
//Costco bulk is too much for a single person.
 
2013-05-18 02:33:11 PM

12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.


since you don't shop at walmart, how would you know about the selection, service, or cleanliness?
 
2013-05-18 02:33:31 PM

12349876: Fissile: Yup, IBM is demanding even more H1B workers because there are just too many people here.

It's a sign that IBM 99.999% of corporations are cheap bastards that don't want to train and properly pay Americans.


===================

FIFY
 
2013-05-18 02:34:24 PM

studebaker hoch: The housing bubble deflected attention from the wider problem that technology is eliminating our jerbs left and right.


Your jerbs all went to other countries, and the government rewarded the corporations for doing it.

Being able to pay people less to do the same work means more profit for American corporations, which results in a bigger GDP they can wave in your face, claiming America is still going strong while you wait in line for food stamps.
 
2013-05-18 02:37:19 PM

J. Frank Parnell: studebaker hoch: The housing bubble deflected attention from the wider problem that technology is eliminating our jerbs left and right.

Your jerbs all went to other countries, and the government rewarded the corporations for doing it.

Being able to pay people less to do the same work means more profit for American corporations, which results in a bigger GDP they can wave in your face, claiming America is still going strong while you wait in line for food stamps.


================

Not just in Murica, this show has gone on the road.   She what Krugman has to saw about the Irish "recovery".
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/that-hideous-strength/
 
2013-05-18 02:38:18 PM

LDM90: 12349876: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.

Not sure what Walmart you shop at (Oh, you don't shop at Walmart? Then how do you know they suck?) but the ones I go to are all nicely lit, nicely laid out, have friendly and helpful staff, and have, for the most part (there are exceptions) decent quality merchandise. They all also seem to have a full range of customer types, from the stereotypical "Walmart shopper" to people that I would also see at a Vons Pavilions, Sears, or Nordstroms.

The Target's and Meijer's in my area are much nicer.

Target's what is nicer?


I'm not a Grammar NaziTM but why do people continue to put apostrophes before every s they type?  Chri'st that i's annoying a's hell!
 
2013-05-18 02:39:37 PM

LDM90: 12349876: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: 12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.

Not sure what Walmart you shop at (Oh, you don't shop at Walmart? Then how do you know they suck?) but the ones I go to are all nicely lit, nicely laid out, have friendly and helpful staff, and have, for the most part (there are exceptions) decent quality merchandise. They all also seem to have a full range of customer types, from the stereotypical "Walmart shopper" to people that I would also see at a Vons Pavilions, Sears, or Nordstroms.

The Target's and Meijer's in my area are much nicer.

Target's what is nicer?


Ignore that. It's a Michigander dialect tendency. For some reason, the people in this region feel the need to put an apostrophe "s" on the end of most business names that don't already end with an "s". Target's, Meijer's, Walmart's, Bell Tire's, etc.

Example of Michigan dialect:

"I'm gunna goda Target's fer melk, and then stoppat Speedway's fergass annoil."
 
2013-05-18 02:43:20 PM
I shop at Aldi for food and basic stuff. I end up at a nearby Walmart to pick up the few things I can't get at Aldi.

I do hate shopping there, though... Mostly because they will frequently have one cashier working at a time, and the U-Scan terminals are frequently out of order.

That, and the shuffling masses of dumb and crazy that frequent the place can be off-putting. Not everyone is like that, but it seems like the ones who are, prefer Walmart.
 
2013-05-18 02:45:07 PM

ZeroCorpse: and the U-Scan terminals are frequently out of order.


There's a WalMart near me now, well it's not a full tilt WalMart it's basically a WalMart supermarket. I happened in there a couple weeks ago and at 10:25 PM, 35 minutes before the store closes, all the U-Scan's were shut down. I could not for the life of me understand that.
 
2013-05-18 02:45:42 PM
media.komonews.com
Well, bye.
 
2013-05-18 02:45:54 PM
The economy is still bad. Wal-Mart is losing customers to the dollar stores Besides when you shop at a dollar store you don't have to get all dressed up like you're going to Wal-Mart.
 
2013-05-18 02:46:13 PM
reignited?

hehe. Glasses, rose colored. Economy is still in the dumper, big time.
 
2013-05-18 02:47:52 PM

12349876: Popcorn Johnny: Thanks for the reminder, I need to stop by and pick up a few things today.

And now back to your regularly scheduled "Walmart sucks" thread.

Have fun with the substandard selection, service, and cleaniness.

Seriously, putting aside any macroeconomic arguments, Wal Mart used to be the gold standard of big box stores.  Now they're on the path to being the next K Mart.


Kmart is still around, and they still kind of suck. They pay poorly (minimum wage with no raises, ever), treat employees like indentured servants, and have stores that are so run-down and dilapidated that it's a wonder they don't just crumble under the stress of some of the gigantic wildebeests that shop there.

They bought Sears (not the other way around) and put all their resources into making Sears the lead brand. They did that by pulling most of their resources and effort from the Kmart side of their business.
 
2013-05-18 02:50:23 PM
Walmart's sales are down? I blame 2bama.
 
2013-05-18 02:50:36 PM
how did that plan to fark over American manufacturing for a few profitable quarters work out?
Better open some stores in China....Assholes.

www.compguyusa.com
 
2013-05-18 02:54:13 PM

Infobahn: It would be interesting to see if Target or Costco sales are higher.  Aspirational shoppers.

/too lazy to look


Done in one.

This article is the first one that has ever made me want to reach through my monitor and strangle the author for being such a farktard. Even beyond Palintard.

The writer goes above and beyond the sheer ranks of stupidity (by not comparing apples to apples in the first place) by citing another of his own fricking articles as a reference to prove his case.  And his stupidity worsens...  his previous article completely negates his current hypothesis:

What is true is that "general merchandise stores" (department stores and similar) suffered a 4 percent decline. That's ugly. But autos were up, grocery stores were up, apparel stores were up, restaurants were up, and the exciting nonstore retailers category soared 14 percent.


So basically department stores in general took a hit.  Which is probably why the tard didn't compare sales from similar stores in this article.  And to compare Walmart to Whole Foods???  Fricking tard.
 
2013-05-18 02:57:36 PM
The old lady at Wal Mart yesterday wouldn't print the Slothstranaut pic I downloaded off the internet because I didn't have the expressed permission of the photographer. Walgreens happily took my money.
 
2013-05-18 02:58:14 PM

Fissile: The economy has been reignited?  Really?  So the three foreclosed homes on my block are what the new prosperity looks like?

As for Walmart, I'm gonna guess their customer base is now too poor even for Walmart.


There are what, about 10 average houses per city block?  If we are to assume that your block is average, that would mean about a 30% foreclosure rate.

Of course, this is farking ridiculous and we both know it.  We can only conclude that your block is not average.  That, or you're lying.  Either way, there is your answer.
 
2013-05-18 03:03:47 PM

Fissile: Yup, IBM is demanding even more H1B workers because there are just too many people here

who demand a first world wage for their skills!

There I finished your comment for you
 
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