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2013-05-18 01:03:48 PM
6 votes:

kingoomieiii: The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.


Yes, you've made it clear that you think being qualified for a job does not mean you should be considered for it. The guy didn't say he's qualified because he's white. His critics ARE saying he's unqualified because he's white.

kingoomieiii: In my opinion, you're reading into the opinion you want to read into, because it's the one that makes you feel the most victimized.


He's reading the opinion of people who STATED their opinion of why the guy shouldn't have the job.

If we can't take the reasons given to us for why they oppose the guy on their own merits, what should we do? Should we do like you and ignore what they have said and instead argue off of what we want their argument to be?
2013-05-18 10:41:46 AM
6 votes:

Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.


The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.
2013-05-18 08:40:35 AM
5 votes:
"Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.
2013-05-18 02:12:39 PM
4 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?


So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?
2013-05-18 01:47:54 PM
4 votes:

Moonfisher: Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"


Did you refuse the promotions?
2013-05-18 01:25:51 PM
4 votes:

Owangotang: WhippingBoy: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

The sad thing is, I don't disagree with you.

You may not disagree but you will be wrong. There will not be a moment as built up to over one hundred plus years that targets white, straight males. There will undoubtedly be minor moments where white straight males cry that they are being persecuted, however no one will give a shiat.


I'm not claiming to be persecuted. I'm just saying I recognize bigotry when I see it.
2013-05-18 01:24:34 PM
4 votes:
Isn't that discrimination based on race, sex and sexual orientation?

Pretty sure there are laws that cover this.
2013-05-18 01:01:59 PM
4 votes:
"This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."

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2013-05-18 12:04:51 PM
4 votes:

kingoomieiii: Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.

The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?

He was voted down. The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.

And people never vote based on prejudices? It seems the person whom he was to replace thought he was the most qualified of all the candidates, not merely qualified. Do you disagree with that opinion, which seemed I be shared by the author of the editorial of the school newspaper and many commenters? You seem to have some specific insight, so would you care to share it?

In my opinion, you're reading into the opinion you want to read into, because it's the one that makes you feel the most victimized.

"According to the author of this editorial" is never valid evidence for anything but that the author had that opinion.


Oh, so I should trust your biases and speculation over the account of someone with firsthand knowledge of the events. Nice chip on your shoulder you've got there.
2013-05-18 11:38:40 AM
4 votes:

kingoomieiii: Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.

The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?

He was voted down. The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.


And people never vote based on prejudices? It seems the person whom he was to replace thought he was the most qualified of all the candidates, not merely qualified. Do you disagree with that opinion, which seemed I be shared by the author of the editorial of the school newspaper and many commenters? You seem to have some specific insight, so would you care to share it?
2013-05-18 09:59:47 PM
3 votes:

rewind2846: WTFdoesitmatter: I Browse: WTFdoesitmatter: Some people have to learn the real meaning of diversity the hard way. Hopefully, this student will refocus his life on something besides trying to implement reverse racism.


What's the real meaning of diversity, in your opinion?

Having everybody on equal footing. If someone is qualified or unqualified for a position, it shouldn't matter what color they are.

Why do some white males cry like this now where a generation or so ago there was NARY A F*CKING PEEP OUT OF THEM about "everybody being on an equal footing"?

Could it be because their only competition was other white men?

If there had been this hue and cry about "fairness" in the 60's when I was a child, I could accept their premise.
Had I head it in the 70's when I was a teenager, or even in the 80's when I was in my 20's, I would still say that they might a case.

Now... just STFU. You have no case. You have gone much too long with having the field all to yourselves, and now that this is no longer the case you want to cry about it. Here's a tissue, and that's all you get.


So, you're one of those idiots that believes that people should be hired, promoted, accepted into schools, etc. based on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. Do you believe that it should be done out of A - spite and revenge or B - because you are admitting an inferiority that would put different racial groups at a disadvantage in these processes? Just wondering.
2013-05-18 07:42:00 PM
3 votes:
Repeat after me:

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Our diversity is our strength...
Our diversity is our strength...
Our diversity is our strength...

2013-05-18 06:09:12 PM
3 votes:

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

Are you farking kidding me?

Is there a group of people in this world more self-absorbedly annoying than heterosexual white dudes? When you guys live in a nation built upon slavery of white guys, where guys couldn't hold property or vote, or had to deal with decades of institutionalized racism then you can biatch about being oppressed. Until then you're still the highest paid and most powerful demographic in the country.


A majority of white men couldn't vote for the longest time.  You had to own land.  Most white people did not.  You should at least learn what happened hundreds of years ago if you're going to victimize a whole race of people who live now for it.
2013-05-18 06:05:24 PM
3 votes:
I'm sure if the roles were reversed the comments herein would be identical.

/ sarcasm
2013-05-18 05:59:50 PM
3 votes:

utah dude: cameroncrazy1984: Oh yeah clearly you do.

iranian wife, mexican son... uh numerous pro-gay rallies and such (despite the whole church prop 8 thing), so yah.

if i miss out on another job opportunity because of race i'll prolly call the interviewing person whatever racist moniker is deserved. because i'm human too.


A white person.

You see, being white is like having the original sin. You are tainted by the crimes of your ancestors the second you are born regardless of your actions and character in life, and all white people are born with it. The only way to seek salvation from this burden is to relinquish time, opportunity, and money to institutions whose job it is to scrub this terrible condition from you while admonishing you as an wicked human being.

The more time and money you give to these people, the more they will cleanse your soul of this evil. However, as one of the wicked, you are not allowed to join the upper ranks or bring up your own suggestions on how we should interpret their doctrine unless you are of a more righteous bloodline.

But be warned. Do not ever disagree with these people, for they have the support of powerful people and legions of supporters who can turn you into an outcast for speaking against their ideology.
2013-05-18 03:08:44 PM
3 votes:
Things that really get to me: when you can say that having a group for whites only is racist, or a scholarship for whites only is racist, but at the same time you can have a group for blacks only or a scholarship for blacks only and it's not racist.  In both cases the scholarship or group was based upon skin color and nothing else, but the playbook that we have to accept states that one group plays by a different set of rules.  Why is that?  Some say because the U.S. once had slaves.  Well, the U.S. also liberated those slaves and no one alive today was a slave so that shouldn't be why.  Others point to everything before and during the civil rights era.  That was decades ago, and the insistence that it continue where every group possible, save for whites, gets an advantage is punishing more and more people who had nothing to do with the racism that sparked the civil rights movement and rewarding those who don't give two shiats about it.  If we as a nation honestly want to practice treating everyone equally, regardless of race or gender, then things like scholarships based on skin color or ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation needs to come to an end.  We need to stop looking upon the white population as the group with all the advantages and recognize that we've created a system where they get shafted and anytime the prospect of a whites only item comes up we scream 'racism' to kill it, and then we go even further to call it 'reverse racism' when it comes to preventing the white population from having their own groups or scholarships or white only schools or even promoting white owned businesses and prevent any discussion on the matter of is it really reverse racism or is it flat out racism?

It doesn't matter the skin color, but prevent the advancement or promotion of one race so that the others get advantages is racism, end of story.
2013-05-18 02:45:09 PM
3 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1:Clearly you didn't read the editorial from the Daily Northwestern, or didn't read it carefully. Would you require minority applicants to those same criteria of prior experience?

Uh, yeah? Why wouldn't I? Generally don't you want people with prior experience in leadership positions? Why don't you?


Of course you do. So why is white and heterosexual a factor at all?
2013-05-18 02:18:17 PM
3 votes:

kingoomieiii: Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.

The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?

He was voted down. The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.


I'm pretty sure the real racism and bigotry was when he was voted down for no reason other than the color of his skin and sexual orientation.

Would it be wrong if someone was denied a position for being black and/or gay? Then it's wrong for someone to be denied a position for not being those things.
2013-05-18 02:02:54 PM
3 votes:
White males are also the villain in movies 98% of the time.  Saw Into Darkness last night....two villains, both white dudes.
2013-05-18 01:39:01 PM
3 votes:
Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"
2013-05-18 01:22:43 PM
3 votes:

cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.


Ever noticed that EVERY burglar in ADT commercials is white?
Showing any other race would be, well, racist.
2013-05-18 01:12:14 PM
3 votes:

The Homer Tax: Popcorn Johnny: It's impossible to be racist against white people. Fark taught me that a long time ago.

It's possible to be racist against white people, it's just that you're not going to get any sympathy when you start whining about it because being a white male is so Farking awesome.

I love being a white guy, it's the best. Oh noes I might not be able to be "vice president in charge of diversity" or whatever. I guess I'll just have to settle for being "president of the United States" instead. Or you know... Absolutely anything else my mind can imagine for the most part.


Exactly. Ain't no way a black man will ever become President of the United States. Check your privilege, ghost-face.
2013-05-18 01:11:59 PM
3 votes:

cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.


Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.
2013-05-18 12:59:22 PM
3 votes:
How about intellectual diversity, instead of the same old leftier than thou conformity we find omnipresent on campuses?
2013-05-18 10:58:00 AM
3 votes:

BunkyBrewman: So the guy used the 'ol "But I know someone who is .a .........." as a qualification to be nominated for the position.


From the article:

The outgoing vice president for diversity and inclusion had endorsed Piotrkowsi as the best candidate for the job - noting that he identifies with a religious minority and has a sister who is gay.
2013-05-18 10:41:22 AM
3 votes:
Eh, I'm okay with that. I actually do tend to agree that having a white, heterosexual male in charge of diversity sends the wrong message.
2013-05-19 12:28:48 AM
2 votes:

rewind2846: Vectron: Duke_leto_Atredes: Point of order, white males do not need special laws to protect us. We who have raped and pillaged across the world throughout time....

It's been a messy past but whites (and I include women in partnership with men) have created a culture fit for our people with laws and technology and arts that can't be touched by anyone else.
Sub-Saharan Africans had not invented the wheel at the time they were brought over for slavery (And please don't state that the populist but ridiculous theories of Jared Diamond are fact).
Try not taking for granted that European civilization "just happened" to white people. This has to be said once in awhile.
Every people has something to be proud of but I prefer living in my culture.

I know you's trolling, but...
Ever stop to think (I'm stretching here) for a minute that whatever people choose to invent... happens to be what they need?
Take the peoples of the Americas... Mayans, Incas, those folks... what didn't they have wheels? I'll tell ya why... because they would have been no f*cking good in the mountains.
The people of sub saharan Africa and the great plains of north america? Because they didn't have a lot of sh*t to carry.
The peoples of the world who used the wheel (Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Asians etc) had three things: lots of sh*t to move, permanent cities and towns to move to and from, and relatively flat ground to build roads or rut paths. Nomadic peoples without many possessions and people who live on the sides of mountains don't care about any of this stuff. Why would they need wheels?

One could ask the same question "why haven't you invented a nuclear weapon?" Because you don't f*cking need it, that's why. European civilization did "just happen" to white people. That civilization was shaped by their environment, as all civilizations are. The inventions they made are a direct result of the cold, wet, crowded places they lived in, and the permanent settlements they created. Europeans were and ar ...


I wasn't trolling and what you laid down in this thread is the biggest, steamiest heap of BS I've seen in a while.
Your "theory" is just that, a theory. More like a bedtime story for the weak minded. I think  this claptrap stems from the populist writer, Jared Diamond who is as much a fan of white people as Tim Wise. Like Stephen Jay Gould and Sigmund Freud, his work will be debunked in the coming decades (get on the right side of history, Rewind)

The Chinese have a marvelous history with many technological inventions. Who else compares with them and European people? Observe the world around you. I'm not saying other races are devoid of worth and humanity. Nothing could be further from the truth but let's stop with this nonsense that white people don't deserve credit for their accomplishments. Pretty much everything in the world around you is because of the invention, commerce, hard work, ingenuity and talents of white people. This should be taught in colleges!

Following the Richwine scandal this was written in the Scientific American:

Should Research on Race and IQ Be Banned?

I found the comments section the most interesting part. It is comforting to know that so many in the science fields reject the popular "diversity uber alles" religion of today. How backward and scared our society is.
2013-05-18 08:11:44 PM
2 votes:
What has the white man ever done for us?

the aquaduct? Public health? Safety? Order? The automobile?
pornography? The internet? Fark? Television? The movies?
most classic literature? Lsd? Seinfeld? Modern medicine?

ok ok ok. But aside from all that. What has the white man ever done for us?
2013-05-18 07:12:14 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: I do not, however, think it should be a disqualification. It should be a non-factor.

The only people who think it is a disqualification are butthurt conservatives who think people who RTFA and saw where members of the diversity committee said that's the only reason he was voted down.


FTFY
2013-05-18 07:10:30 PM
2 votes:
I always found it funny. My negro friends love the white women. Hell every other race wants our women.

but when you see a good looking jamaican girl in my arms
boy do they hate it. And the women hate it more.

funny thing about double standards
2013-05-18 07:00:36 PM
2 votes:

Moonfisher: Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"


I have news for you candypants. You weren't handed those promotions because you are white.
2013-05-18 06:00:36 PM
2 votes:
Not sure why anyone is surprised by this.  Diversity measures focus, by their very nature, on skin color.  It is as racist a concept as there is. Period. So a group of racists is acting racist.  And no surprise the usual fark crowd that supports it. Lol.

Even though the position itself is pointless and stupid,  a person of color _____ being voted down because of being color _______ is wrong.
2013-05-18 05:57:49 PM
2 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: WhippingBoy: Keizer_Ghidorah: It's funny how the ones who are the majority and hold the most power tend to be the ones who complain the loudest when they feel they're being "persecuted" and "discriminated against". Especially when it comes to not being able to be the majority and hold the power.

Why does this surprise you? How many people would willingly give up being king?

True, but when the current king has been a tyrant, he needs a few kicks in the ass to remember that he's not the all-special all-amazing all-privileged golden boy he thinks he is, and that there are other people around him.


So, they kept the straight white guy off the diversity council? That's really sticking it to the Man.  Do you view all white guys as your oppressor, or are their other qualifications?
2013-05-18 05:55:38 PM
2 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: True, but when the current king has been a tyrant, he needs a few kicks in the ass to remember that he's not the all-special all-amazing all-privileged golden boy he thinks he is, and that there are other people around him.


uh... be sure to confuse the whole OWS class war thing with skin color. just because i'm white doesn't mean i've got a humvee and play golf with my ivy league friends. in fact if you sum my net income, those on support programs make out better than me, especially if you factor in the student loan repayments. so... uh... get mad at RICH WHITEY, not white whitey. shiat, even i'm really mad at rich whitey. if society ever REALLY BREAKS DOWN, i'm going to be pointing my barrel at him, right alongside my multicolored friends, students, clients.
2013-05-18 05:42:24 PM
2 votes:

kingoomieiii: JesusJuice: I'm pretty sure the real racism and bigotry was when he was voted down for no reason other than the color of his skin and sexual orientation.

Three candidates were voted down in the election. There's suddenly a shiatstorm about the white one. The white one who was, by the way, the most junior member to be nominated.

It's funny every time a bunch of white people get up in arms when they find out about a place where white people aren't in charge, and then are denied when they try to be in charge. "It's discrimination!" they cry.

But cheer up. Straight, white males control the vast majority of the government, the military, the private sector, entertainment industry, everything. Meanwhile white business owners think it's not racist to dump a resume in the garbage because the name at the top says "Latisha" or "Treyshawn" because they 'can't take that name seriously'. Between a black couple and a white couple with the exact same finances and credit rating, the white couple is much more likely to qualify for a bank loan. And more white children have gotten into colleges via "legacy" than affirmative action ever have- a chain of "legacy" that started before minority students were accepted by colleges at all.


Did you rtfa? He was voted down BECAUSE he was a straight, white male. They come right out and say it. There's no ambiguity.
2013-05-18 05:37:26 PM
2 votes:
I get identifying by gender because chicks are wack. That people still identify by color baffles me.  I'm white and I have way less in common with white people as a group than I do with people that actually share my interests.  Hell I'm bald before I'm white.  Nobody cares about the prejudice we face.
2013-05-18 04:57:03 PM
2 votes:
I have no idea why racism is on the rise amongst whites, could it be that diversity is bullshiat and what it means is "Everyone but you" to white males? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
2013-05-18 03:22:08 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?


You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?
2013-05-18 03:16:48 PM
2 votes:

Great Janitor: Things that really get to me: when you can say that having a group for whites only is racist, or a scholarship for whites only is racist, but at the same time you can have a group for blacks only or a scholarship for blacks only and it's not racist. In both cases the scholarship or group was based upon skin color and nothing else, but the playbook that we have to accept states that one group plays by a different set of rules. Why is that? Some say because the U.S. once had slaves. Well, the U.S. also liberated those slaves and no one alive today was a slave so that shouldn't be why. Others point to everything before and during the civil rights era. That was decades ago, and the insistence that it continue where every group possible, save for whites, gets an advantage is punishing more and more people who had nothing to do with the racism that sparked the civil rights movement and rewarding those who don't give two shiats about it.


Whites have instituted many programs and laws to make blacks equal to whites in this country. I think its pretty plain that for whatever reason blacks haven't done their share of the work. They can't run a city that isn't corrupt and broken. Outside of entertainment and sports they don't seem to be compete, contribute and fit in our culture. Its time to stop blaming whitey (however valid that may be) and try to work on being less self destructive.
2013-05-18 03:04:18 PM
2 votes:

JesusJuice: I'm pretty sure the real racism and bigotry was when he was voted down for no reason other than the color of his skin and sexual orientation.


Three candidates were voted down in the election. There's suddenly a shiatstorm about the white one. The white one who was, by the way, the most junior member to be nominated.

It's funny every time a bunch of white people get up in arms when they find out about a place where white people aren't in charge, and then are denied when they try to be in charge. "It's discrimination!" they cry.

But cheer up. Straight, white males control the vast majority of the government, the military, the private sector, entertainment industry, everything. Meanwhile white business owners think it's not racist to dump a resume in the garbage because the name at the top says "Latisha" or "Treyshawn" because they 'can't take that name seriously'. Between a black couple and a white couple with the exact same finances and credit rating, the white couple is much more likely to qualify for a bank loan. And more white children have gotten into colleges via "legacy" than affirmative action ever have- a chain of "legacy" that started before minority students were accepted by colleges at all.
2013-05-18 02:59:52 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: I do not, however, think it should be a disqualification. It should be a non-factor.

The only people who think it is a disqualification are butthurt conservatives who think that's the only reason he was voted down.

Does that include the author of the editorial for the Daily Northwestern who had firsthand knowledge of the situation?

Yep. Even him. Are you saying there's no way he could have been biased? Just because he was there doesn't mean he's correct.


You are the one accusing him of bias.  Why is that?
2013-05-18 02:51:03 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1:Clearly you didn't read the editorial from the Daily Northwestern, or didn't read it carefully. Would you require minority applicants to those same criteria of prior experience?

Uh, yeah? Why wouldn't I? Generally don't you want people with prior experience in leadership positions? Why don't you?

Of course you do. So why is white and heterosexual a factor at all?

I didn't say it was. I said it wasn't a qualification for office, which you appear to think it is.


No, I don't think it is a qualification at all. I do not, however, think it should be a disqualification. It should be a non-factor.
2013-05-18 02:47:50 PM
2 votes:
Wait, you mean "diversity" is actually a code-word for "affirmative action?"  No, shiat.
2013-05-18 02:45:39 PM
2 votes:
Also from the editorial:


Sargent Hall senator Jesse Seitz asked Stephen Piotrkowski if being a white male helped his nomination for associate vice president of diversity and inclusion.

"When you're forced to work with all these multicultural groups that are, for the most part, not made up of white males, do you think you have the perspective that is not their perspective, to bring to them?" asked Seitz
To further diversity and inclusion, it might be a good idea to expose these multicultural groups to perspectives that are not theirs.  If there is not a white, hetero, male group among "all these multicultural groups," that's a serious failing of the D&I movement.

Or maybe "diversity and inclusion" doesn't mean what it pretends to mean.
2013-05-18 02:43:10 PM
2 votes:
Can we just admit that the only group that it is ok to be racist towards is 20 something white, heterosexual males, now?
2013-05-18 02:41:51 PM
2 votes:

Duke_leto_Atredes: Point of order, white males do not need special laws to protect us. We who have raped and pillaged across the world throughout time....


It's been a messy past but whites (and I include women in partnership with men) have created a culture fit for our people with laws and technology and arts that can't be touched by anyone else.
Sub-Saharan Africans had not invented the wheel at the time they were brought over for slavery (And please don't state that the populist but ridiculous theories of Jared Diamond are fact).
Try not taking for granted that European civilization "just happened" to white people. This has to be said once in awhile.
Every people has something to be proud of but I prefer living in my culture.
2013-05-18 02:41:48 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?


Clearly you didn't read the editorial from the Daily Northwestern, or didn't read it carefully. Would you require minority applicants to those same criteria of prior experience?
2013-05-18 02:30:52 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?

No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.

Why? Because he's white and straight?

Because those aren't qualifications for running a diversity campaign.


Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation? Does it not matter that the outgoing person he would have replaced thought he was "the most qualified for the job"?
2013-05-18 02:22:10 PM
2 votes:

Elmo Jones: Vectron: I think one could say the same about George Zimmerman, yet look at the narrative created my the entire mainstream media.

Luckily, he'll get a trial, and a jury. Emmett Till's killers were graced with neither.
The multitudes of black men who were lynched got no such justice; so when I hear about some white kid who didn't get to lead a diversity group, pardon me, if I'm not singing the blues.



Look, there is sooo much black on white crime in this country it has to be hidden from the public. There was a Time Magazine article from the 1950's in fact, that said black on white crime was being censored back then (so we could move forward with civil rights?). We will never know for sure how much of any crime is motivated by race but we've seen police reluctant to label crimes as hate when the victim is white.

Blacks have got back at whitey in spades.
2013-05-18 02:15:20 PM
2 votes:

BunkyBrewman: Fark It: BunkyBrewman: So the guy used the 'ol "But I know someone who is .a .........." as a qualification to be nominated for the position.

From the article:

The outgoing vice president for diversity and inclusion had endorsed Piotrkowsi as the best candidate for the job - noting that he identifies with a religious minority and has a sister who is gay.

Pray tell... how does the butthurt gentleman from Northwestern identify with a religious minority?   An endorsement from a friend at college is meaningless as well as having a sister (or daughter) who is gay.  (Dick Cheney comes to mind who was against gay marriage until he stopped running for office, now he's for it)


True, life experiences have no bearing on your role on a diversity panel, apparently.  Neither does your experience working with a group called the "Inclusion Task Force."

What's kind of frightening to me is that the skin color and sexual orientation became the focus of this, rather than the candidate's individual merits and prior experiences, and the position he was being considered for was not in any way meant to represent the multicultural community, but rather to oversee diversity initiatives from other campus groups.

Anyway, I think this is just more a case of a bunch of narcissistic teenagers with too much power being narcissistic teenagers with too much power more than anything.
2013-05-18 02:14:49 PM
2 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?

No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.


Why? Because he's white and straight?
2013-05-18 02:02:39 PM
2 votes:
Like how African-American means black people and not the various races that inhabit Africa, "diversity" in this country means no white people instead of diversity.
2013-05-18 01:51:49 PM
2 votes:
Diversity is overrated.
2013-05-18 01:46:35 PM
2 votes:

Moonfisher: myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl,


you're obviously not from california.
2013-05-18 01:45:50 PM
2 votes:

kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.


I watch several hundred commercials per week at my job. We prepare ad media for broadcast in markets all across the country.

Things I have learned from this job:

1. Auto and furniture dealers seem to advertise the most
2. Everyone pays more for gold than the "other guys"
3. Men are hapless morons while women are confident and infallible
4. There is plenty of racial diversity going on
5. Spanish language alternates of certain ad spots are unintentionally hilarious
6. Auto dealerships will finance a car for 6 years and no one bats an eye
7. Anything goes in the Vegas market
8. "Conservative" politicians seem to be the only ones advertising on TV and are crawling over each other to show who hates Obama the most and the most "conservative"
9. Infomercials are still delivered on Beta SP tapes in the lowest possible quality
10. Public access TV is some hilarious sh*t
2013-05-18 01:37:46 PM
2 votes:
Nothing says "good policy" like treating normal people as second-class citizens, and rewarding defectives.
2013-05-18 01:28:41 PM
2 votes:
Let this be a grim warning to White Knights everywhere...
2013-05-18 01:27:13 PM
2 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: He'll get over it.  I'm just glad conservatives are still pussy whiners.


The odds are this reject ain't a member of my club. If he were conservative, he'd have only been running to destroy the silly group from within. This guy thought he was in the liberal/diversity club. He didn't realize it was only a trial membership.
2013-05-18 01:26:42 PM
2 votes:

kingoomieiii: Nabb1: And your opinion is based on what? Awesome.

A passing familiarity with the prime directive of FOXNews's editorial section. Make old conservatives, white supremacist, casual racists, and other assorted bigots as angry as possible at all times. It's working! Just check out the comments.


FOXNews is crap. I'm talking about the article in NU's newspaper they linked to. Did you bother to read that before you went off half-cocked, or did you just see the FOXNews tag and go straight to derp?
2013-05-18 01:26:21 PM
2 votes:

kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.


I do see diversity in commercials, probably not enough but how often are the minorities portrayed as bumbling idiots vs. white males ? Write that tiny number down .
2013-05-18 01:13:50 PM
2 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

Until then, we must pay for the crime of being white heterosexual men.


Wait until it fractures. At one point being WASP/non-WASP was the breakdown. They took out Anglo-Saxon Protestant and threw in all the white non-anglosaxon non-protestants. Those Catholic Italians and Irish, welcome to the club of the great oppressor. Slavic Orthodox? Jews? Congrats... you're now the "enemy" who are responsible for all the worlds ills.The only way to repent is if you're gay or maybe possibly muslim. You can argue online and post all the flyers you want and be more of a Tim Wise than Tim Wise but you're only one conflict away from being as racist as David Duke.
2013-05-18 01:09:27 PM
2 votes:
Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.
2013-05-18 01:04:52 PM
2 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: It's impossible to be racist against white people. Fark taught me that a long time ago.


It's possible to be racist against white people, it's just that you're not going to get any sympathy when you start whining about it because being a white male is so Farking awesome.

I love being a white guy, it's the best. Oh noes I might not be able to be "vice president in charge of diversity" or whatever. I guess I'll just have to settle for being "president of the United States" instead. Or you know... Absolutely anything else my mind can imagine for the most part.
2013-05-18 01:03:16 PM
2 votes:

halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.


Until then, we must pay for the crime of being white heterosexual men.
2013-05-18 12:23:20 PM
2 votes:

Nabb1: And your opinion is based on what? Awesome.


A passing familiarity with the prime directive of FOXNews's editorial section. Make old conservatives, white supremacist, casual racists, and other assorted bigots as angry as possible at all times. It's working! Just check out the comments.
2013-05-18 12:11:33 PM
2 votes:
Also, don't confuse my mocking this PC nonsense ans feeling victimized. I don't need to perpetually feel like I'm a victim, unlike some people in this thread.  Just remember most bigots are too convinced they have righteousness on their side to see how stupid their prejudices are.
2013-05-18 12:00:52 PM
2 votes:
And, by the way, we don't elect presidents based on who the previous president thinks would be best for the job in a democracy. That's more of a "private sector", "dynasty" thing.
2013-05-18 11:01:21 AM
2 votes:

kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.


The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?
2013-05-19 04:54:24 PM
1 votes:

Gdalescrboz: FTFA: "...previously served as a member of the Northwestern Inclusion Task Force."

Are you farking kidding me?  A farking Inclusion Task Force?  Does this mean I should be on the lookout for "the war on not being included"?




RIght along with the that War on Poverty and War on Drugs.
2013-05-19 03:17:32 PM
1 votes:

bunner: Could somebody essplain why all of these multi-factional, fragmented, oppressed types desperately need the assistance, approval, endless positive reinforcement  and unwavering and unquestioning respect of the very people they say are oppressing them?


Because if they were taught the value of self-sufficiency and independence, the people that manipulate them would lose their control.
2013-05-19 02:40:01 PM
1 votes:
Could somebody essplain why all of these multi-factional, fragmented, oppressed types desperately need the assistance, approval, endless positive reinforcement  and unwavering and unquestioning respect of the very people they say are oppressing them?
2013-05-19 02:39:47 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?

You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?

Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.

And there is no evidence that it was not the case.

Oh so by all means let's just assume that it was the case, then?


From the article: "This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."

So, yeah, the Diversity Counsel really does not understand the meaning of the word "diverse."
2013-05-19 02:16:41 PM
1 votes:

rewind2846: Mambo Bananapatch: Wulfman: This is a position that should be reserved for a person of color.  A person of no color shouldn't be applying for it.


/learning the lingo

Why is 'person of color' satisfactory but 'coloured person' is racist? And who decides these things?

/stopped bothering trying to learn the lingo as it will just change in a few years anyway

The person whom you are addressing. If I were a woman I determine whether you address me as Mrs or Ms or just by my last name. As a man in a professional setting use Mr., if you know me as a co-worker or peer my last name will do, and if you know me personally use my first name. My preference. Whatever you want to be called is your choice as well. Simple, and not a difficult concept.


Not difficult at all, as long as you wear a label around your neck announcing your preference. Otherwise I have to guess, or start every introduction with, "Are you coloured, a colored person, Negro, African-Canadian, or how about I just call you by your name?"
2013-05-19 01:52:04 PM
1 votes:

Bonobo62: Judging from the articles, it's a non-job. Stuff like this usually is. The person hired doesn't actually promote diversity, the university simply gives the appearance of diversity by putting one more non-white person in a made-up and useless position.


how many hours and posts did it take to get here?

would somebody please +o Bonobo62 ? maybe +TF at the same time?
2013-05-19 11:04:53 AM
1 votes:

Green Scorpio: NutWrench: "This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."

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I too saw the irony in that statement when I first read it.


But they're still crawling from the wreckage of oppression!  See?  they probably have pics of it on their iPhone in the glove compartment of the car their daddy bought them.  Oppression!  The memories, so vivid!  Whiny children.  How do they work?
2013-05-19 08:27:40 AM
1 votes:

NutWrench: "This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."

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I too saw the irony in that statement when I first read it.
2013-05-19 04:15:01 AM
1 votes:

Mock26: I am not a racist.  I hate everyone equally.


Ah, but do you hate everyone equally in exactly the same way?  Otherwise, you're a racist.
2013-05-19 01:31:11 AM
1 votes:
rewind2846:  People make what they need.

Do you see that the basis of your argument is an opinion? Sorry, but that doesn't stand any sort of examination.
Think of all those lone white men working in their workshops late at night in the nineteenth century that gave us marvels for the twentieth century. It wasn't about need. It was about curiosity and other things.

Meanwhile in sub Saharan Africa, it has always been starvation and crisis. A sub continent wealthy in natural resources and fertility had to wait for white people make order for the Africans. Look what white people did with south Africa and Rhodesia. Kick YT out and those countries are descending back into the abyss.

"Inventions have nothing to do with intelligence as an absolute measure"

Let me say this Rewind, I don't believe the ability to invent determines a person worth. Some people have other talents. Some people are compassionate, Some raise families well. Some are trustworthy. All of this is of value.
2013-05-19 12:49:45 AM
1 votes:
Here are some comments to that Scientific American essay I linked to above:


"Assuming Darwin was right, and that genetics is a real science, there will in fact be significant differences in personality, psychology, temperament, and cognitive ability between various human populations.
Unless all of modern science is false, it is theoretically impossible for all psychological traits and mental abilities to be distributed uniformly throughout all populations worldwide.
All scientists on earth without exception have known this for more than a century.
These issues should be studied intensively, scientifically, without apology, and discussed openly, without stigma, hysteria, or censorship.
Anything else is fascism, totalitarianism, antiscience.....The fact that Scientific American has published this perverted nonsense means that we are making the transition from the soft fascism of political correctness to something more overtly fascist."

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"The Catholic church tried in vain to suppress/control scientific research. How long can the currently reigning belief system do it? Eventually, the truth - The REAL truth that most people already know, will be fully confirmed."

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"It is not lost on some of us that this is essentially the same argument creationists use. They accept an ideological viewpoint and refuse to consider any evidence to the contrary. ...The difference is that they simply believe in a different ideological God(literal God, literal race equality). Saying that we should subject the scientific truth to an ideology is repugnant to many scientifically-minded people, and hopefully they will resist such ideas. Even if they don't investigate it here, it will likely be investigated elsewhere in the world, in countries like China and Japan. It is also likely that with continuing advances in genetics and neurobiology it will be impossible to overlook. We already know that blacks have significantly higher testosterone levels than whites, thanks to research on kidney cancer."

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"Should Research on Race and IQ Be Banned?"

No, research into any and all topics should always be permitted. If you don't agree, then you are an enemy of Western civilization, as well as of yours truly.

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"The notion that geographically isolated populations ( or socioculturally, etc.) of the same species may evolve variations in average physical or intellectual aptitudes is consistent with evolutionary theory. Furthermore, the notion that such intellectual variations may exist is certainly a falsifiable proposition and a appropriate subject for scientific examination. Political ideology should not dictate the course of scientific inquiry."

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".....Unfortunately, sound unbiased research in this field is scant... while predispositions and "political correctness" are rampant.
Genetics and there nexus with the environment (epigenetics) are absolutely foundational and cannot be underestimated as fundamental determinants of all animal development both as a specie and individuals striving to survive and thrive.
The list of human genetic-based and genetic-influenced diseases is staggering. Genetic and proteonomics includes all alternations and manifestations of our biochemistry/physiology... our neurochemistry/behaviors."

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"John Hogan is spouting unadulterated nonsense. Minnesota reared-apart, monozygotic twins studies, in addition to numerous other studies and data bases overwhelming prove that the major contributor to IQ is genetics, no matter how politically incorrect it is to state that fact. If Scientific American considers political correctness to be more important than science, I will have to cancel my subscription. "

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What side of history do you want to be on?
2013-05-18 11:37:35 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "...previously served as a member of the Northwestern Inclusion Task Force."

Are you farking kidding me?  A farking Inclusion Task Force?  Does this mean I should be on the lookout for "the war on not being included"?
2013-05-18 10:17:23 PM
1 votes:

WTFdoesitmatter: are admitting an inferiority that would put different racial groups at a disadvantage in these processes? Just wondering.


no, usually it's been "C: an unbalance exists in the system and a touch of re balancing via affirmative action like programs is necessary to restore an equal playing field."

unfortunately that has happened too much at this point and also people are acting out of 'A' right now because whites are out hip hop is cool even our president plays basketball and is black. kill whitey. pass that blunt.

what's not realized is that a lot of us whiteys are more: i didn't force you to pick cotton or rape your women. shiat, i was at the same reggae concert as you last week. i hate oppressive rich white shiatheads as much as you do.
2013-05-18 09:32:46 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: utah dude: WhippingBoy: No true white people.

not sure if serious. tons of liberal whites fought in that movement.

It's a spin on "no true Scotsman."


me learn thanks.
2013-05-18 09:27:16 PM
1 votes:

utah dude: WhippingBoy: No true white people.

not sure if serious. tons of liberal whites fought in that movement.


It's a spin on "no true Scotsman."
2013-05-18 09:01:49 PM
1 votes:

Bonobo62: rewind2846: WTFdoesitmatter: I Browse: WTFdoesitmatter: Some people have to learn the real meaning of diversity the hard way. Hopefully, this student will refocus his life on something besides trying to implement reverse racism.


What's the real meaning of diversity, in your opinion?

Having everybody on equal footing. If someone is qualified or unqualified for a position, it shouldn't matter what color they are.

Why do some white males cry like this now where a generation or so ago there was NARY A F*CKING PEEP OUT OF THEM about "everybody being on an equal footing"?

Could it be because their only competition was other white men?

If there had been this hue and cry about "fairness" in the 60's when I was a child, I could accept their premise.
Had I head it in the 70's when I was a teenager, or even in the 80's when I was in my 20's, I would still say that they might a case.

Now... just STFU. You have no case. You have gone much too long with having the field all to yourselves, and now that this is no longer the case you want to cry about it. Here's a tissue, and that's all you get.

So there were no white people active in the civil rights movement?


No true white people.
2013-05-18 08:55:27 PM
1 votes:

rewind2846: WTFdoesitmatter: I Browse: WTFdoesitmatter: Some people have to learn the real meaning of diversity the hard way. Hopefully, this student will refocus his life on something besides trying to implement reverse racism.


What's the real meaning of diversity, in your opinion?

Having everybody on equal footing. If someone is qualified or unqualified for a position, it shouldn't matter what color they are.

Why do some white males cry like this now where a generation or so ago there was NARY A F*CKING PEEP OUT OF THEM about "everybody being on an equal footing"?

Could it be because their only competition was other white men?

If there had been this hue and cry about "fairness" in the 60's when I was a child, I could accept their premise.
Had I head it in the 70's when I was a teenager, or even in the 80's when I was in my 20's, I would still say that they might a case.

Now... just STFU. You have no case. You have gone much too long with having the field all to yourselves, and now that this is no longer the case you want to cry about it. Here's a tissue, and that's all you get.


So there were no white people active in the civil rights movement?
2013-05-18 08:44:51 PM
1 votes:

rewind2846: Now... just STFU. You have no case. You have gone much too long with having the field all to yourselves, and now that this is no longer the case you want to cry about it. Here's a tissue, and that's all you get.


uh it's not that we've got competition from darkies, bro, it's that those darkies are handed the job w/o respect to merit. it's no longer competition at all. being the best and some incompetent darky gets the job anyway. it ends up hurting the company that hired him, too, because incompetence.
2013-05-18 08:02:47 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?


What was the position he was going for?

Diversity does not mean "Minority".
2013-05-18 07:24:03 PM
1 votes:
fugeeface:
inspirationboost.com

Me too, Doc.
2013-05-18 07:18:34 PM
1 votes:
inspirationboost.com
2013-05-18 07:01:17 PM
1 votes:

umad: Moonfisher: Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"

I have news for you candypants. You weren't handed those promotions because you are white.


Heh.
2013-05-18 06:55:01 PM
1 votes:

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Im just curious where I stand on the racisim scale.
im white. Like 85% straight. Male.
but my son is half jamaican and I aint been with a white girl at all since I was 20.
28 now.


am I the devil?


Survey says: you are just attracted to nonwhite females because you want to act on your white, colonial instincts to dominate a person of color in order to overtake their race genetically.

Don't get me started on how bad you are if you said that you're attracted mostly to white women.
2013-05-18 06:31:08 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: utah dude: cameroncrazy1984: You're so edgy!

no, i'm bored. really. farking. bored.

Why don't you go hang out with your supposedly iranian wife?


we're discussing socialized medicine right now in bed together, actually. i'm supporting obamacare implementation on a 10-20- year timeline. she doesn't want any government involvement whatsoever. classic set of liberal vs. conservation oppositions on this one.
2013-05-18 06:24:21 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Way to admit that you violate the Fark terms just to cover up the fact that you were being a complete moron.


generating conservation, increasing page refreshes, and increasing advertising revenue. i'm sure Fark doesn't care about me being a moron. i'm not advertising anything or posting malicious links. even my profile has an admission of my troll status, bro.
2013-05-18 06:18:59 PM
1 votes:

WTFdoesitmatter: I Browse: WTFdoesitmatter: Some people have to learn the real meaning of diversity the hard way. Hopefully, this student will refocus his life on something besides trying to implement reverse racism.


What's the real meaning of diversity, in your opinion?

Having everybody on equal footing. If someone is qualified or unqualified for a position, it shouldn't matter what color they are.


That is a great description of diversity.

I look forward to the day when a man will not be judged by the color of his skin but by the content of his character.

THAT will be a good day indeed!
2013-05-18 05:47:42 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Oh yeah clearly you do.


iranian wife, mexican son... uh numerous pro-gay rallies and such (despite the whole church prop 8 thing), so yah.

if i miss out on another job opportunity because of race i'll prolly call the interviewing person whatever racist moniker is deserved. because i'm human too.
2013-05-18 05:13:57 PM
1 votes:

atomicmask: utah dude: atomicmask: I have no idea why racism is on the rise amongst whites, could it be that diversity is bullshiat and what it means is "Everyone but you" to white males? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

you racist piece of straight shiat shut the fark up and enjoy your minimal wage job. also, please give you scholarship to whoever on your street has the darkest skin and the funniest sounding name. now go take your place in the corner.

I will try, but the corner is already claimed by Meso-americans for "la-raza"


nice. 10 points. just favorited you.
2013-05-18 05:13:25 PM
1 votes:
2013-05-18 05:07:22 PM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: WhippingBoy: Don't be intellectually dishonest. You *know* they felt that way.

It's amazing what people will convince themselves of in order to preserve their worldview.


It is indeed.
2013-05-18 05:06:05 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: Don't be intellectually dishonest. You *know* they felt that way.


It's amazing what people will convince themselves of in order to preserve their worldview.
2013-05-18 04:49:52 PM
1 votes:

GoldSpider: cameroncrazy1984: Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.

Except for that part right in TFA where a member of the diversity committee explicitly said that was the case here.

"This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."


So, the opinion of one person means that everyone who voted felt that way? Since when?
2013-05-18 04:29:32 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?

You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?

Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.


And there is no evidence that it was not the case.
2013-05-18 04:11:03 PM
1 votes:
Hiring a white heterosexual male to represent diversity issues is like hiring a deaf man to lead a symphony appreciation society. It's possible that he's qualified, but he'd have to, metaphorically, be the Beethoven of race relations.
2013-05-18 03:57:03 PM
1 votes:

Moonfisher: Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"


That's an awfully big chip you have on your shoulder.
2013-05-18 03:42:02 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: BarkingUnicorn: Huh.  Seems this "diversity and inclusion task force" has been around only since Fall, 2012.

What a pathetic set of autobiographies, except for the very last guy - who wrote nothing. :-)

http://www.northwestern.edu/inclusion/about-us/meet-inclusion-task-f or ce.html

I see a lot of future baristas on that list.


Yeah. Not exactly the "movers and shakers" of the next generation.
2013-05-18 03:40:31 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Huh.  Seems this "diversity and inclusion task force" has been around only since Fall, 2012.

What a pathetic set of autobiographies, except for the very last guy - who wrote nothing. :-)

http://www.northwestern.edu/inclusion/about-us/meet-inclusion-task-f or ce.html


I see a lot of future baristas on that list.
2013-05-18 03:35:14 PM
1 votes:
If a white person who didn't get a job that he wasn't even qualified to have is the best case for your "it's so hard being white" argument, I am NOT impressed.
2013-05-18 03:25:38 PM
1 votes:

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Is there a group of people in this world more self-absorbedly annoying than heterosexual white dudes? When you guys live in a nation built upon slavery of white guys, where guys couldn't hold property or vote, or had to deal with decades of institutionalized racism then you can biatch about being oppressed. Until then you're still the highest paid and most powerful demographic in the country.


I have lived all my life without being mugged at gunpoint.  If it happens today, have I no right to complain about it?  If I have a lot of money in the bank, have I no right to complain about being mugged?
2013-05-18 03:20:12 PM
1 votes:
1. "White Heterosexual Male" is still the default in this society. Claims of "discrimination" by the group that still runs everything are bullsh*t. Stop whining because you can only get 99% instead of 100% of everything like your forefathers did.
2. FTA: "Todd is the author of Dispatches From Bitter America."  All you need to know bout this asshole right here.
2013-05-18 03:17:13 PM
1 votes:

Vectron: And those evil, greedy white men won't put supermarkets into black neighborhoods because the want to starve black children rather than make money.


If you want to know why there's no money moving through a given neighborhood, check the crime reports.  Lean into "crimes against  people", "robbery" and "assault".  Crime keeps you poor.  Because people spend money places where they ain't gonna get jacked.  And I don't give a sh*t if the people who live in that high crime area are white, black, plaid or light gray.  Money goes where money get what it pays for, and when it rolls smooth, that's what it stays for, or else it rolls out to the fine trimmed lawns, the storefronts close and the neighborhood's gone.  The ghetto isn't where you live, it's how you live.  Buildings are ideologically inert.  Deal.
2013-05-18 03:17:09 PM
1 votes:

kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.


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Are you kidding? One McDonalds commercial would cover just about everyone. Except for Asians. Nobody gives a shiat about asians.
2013-05-18 03:16:33 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Huh.  Seems this "diversity and inclusion task force" has been around only since Fall, 2012.

What a pathetic set of autobiographies, except for the very last guy - who wrote nothing. :-)

http://www.northwestern.edu/inclusion/about-us/meet-inclusion-task-f or ce.html


Major: Higher Education Administration and Policy
Major: Communication Studies
Major: Political Science and Spanish
Major: Creative Writing
Major: Social Policy
Major: Journalism
Major: etc.

Perhaps the white guy didn't get elected because he wasn't astronomically useless...

/just sayin'
2013-05-18 03:13:34 PM
1 votes:

halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.


Are you farking kidding me?

Is there a group of people in this world more self-absorbedly annoying than heterosexual white dudes? When you guys live in a nation built upon slavery of white guys, where guys couldn't hold property or vote, or had to deal with decades of institutionalized racism then you can biatch about being oppressed. Until then you're still the highest paid and most powerful demographic in the country.
2013-05-18 03:12:52 PM
1 votes:
Huh.  Seems this "diversity and inclusion task force" has been around only since Fall, 2012.

What a pathetic set of autobiographies, except for the very last guy - who wrote nothing. :-)

http://www.northwestern.edu/inclusion/about-us/meet-inclusion-task-f or ce.html
2013-05-18 03:11:43 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: I didn'taccuse him of bias. I want to know why you think he is not biased.

Oh, did you not say that you included him with all of those "butthurt conservatives"?

No, I included him in the set of people who believe that was the only reason he was voted down.


So, when I asked you if "butthurt conservatives" included him, and you said, "even him," that's not what you meant?
2013-05-18 03:04:46 PM
1 votes:
cameroncrazy1984: I didn'taccuse him of bias. I want to know why you think he is not biased.

Oh, did you not say that you included him with all of those "butthurt conservatives"?
2013-05-18 03:03:06 PM
1 votes:

bunner: A brief glimpse of history will add credence to the notion that the oppressed never want freedom or equality.  They want to beat the oppressor with a stick and steal his hat and wear it.


And if they'd just admit to this, I'd respect them a lot more. Quit trying to sell me "equality" and "diversity" when anyone with half a brain can clearly see that it's bullshiat.
2013-05-18 02:57:31 PM
1 votes:

Umfufu: anyone think maybe they're discriminating against him because of his Polish heritage, and they just don't want a dumb pollack head of anything?


Northwestern is just outside of Chicago. Excluding people of Polish ancestry would wipe out a third of the campus.
2013-05-18 02:56:14 PM
1 votes:

Umfufu: anyone think maybe they're discriminating against him because of his Polish heritage, and they just don't want a dumb pollack head of anything?


Pretty sharp words from somebody who was, two months ago, sitting buck naked on a zebra with a bone in her nose.
2013-05-18 02:56:08 PM
1 votes:
It's funny how the ones who are the majority and hold the most power tend to be the ones who complain the loudest when they feel they're being "persecuted" and "discriminated against". Especially when it comes to not being able to be the majority and hold the power.
2013-05-18 02:55:25 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: I do not, however, think it should be a disqualification. It should be a non-factor.

The only people who think it is a disqualification are butthurt conservatives who think that's the only reason he was voted down.


Does that include the author of the editorial for the Daily Northwestern who had firsthand knowledge of the situation?
2013-05-18 02:54:07 PM
1 votes:
A brief glimpse of history will add credence to the notion that the oppressed never want freedom or equality.  They want to beat the oppressor with a stick and steal his hat and wear it.
2013-05-18 02:52:26 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: I do not, however, think it should be a disqualification. It should be a non-factor.


The only people who think it is a disqualification are butthurt conservatives who think that's the only reason he was voted down.
2013-05-18 02:52:21 PM
1 votes:
I was actually passed over for a contract to do produce some multi-cultural educational materials back in the 1990's. The meeting was set up by a white male friend of mine. I was the best qualified for this particular project but the wise Latina project manager didn't think I had the right qualifications/pigmentation. It was no big amount of money but I thought it would be fun. That was my first taste of discrimination.
2013-05-18 02:51:50 PM
1 votes:

Elegy: So this is the thread where Fark bands together in collective outrage that someone would be explicitly passed over for a position because of their sexuality, gender, or race, and raises a great battle cry of equality and justice for all human beings, right?

Right?

W-why are you all laughing at me?


Because you're raising a ruckus over some guy getting butthurt over not being selected as an officer for a farking student government.
2013-05-18 02:51:24 PM
1 votes:
He's not qualified.  He hasn't got any free time between whipping brown people, abusing and objectifying women, hoarding gold and trading in illegal diamonds and putting puppies on spikes.  My God, people, have you never been to a diversity meting?  This is what white men DO.
2013-05-18 02:34:39 PM
1 votes:
We need picture of hot nekid red head women up in here
2013-05-18 02:30:57 PM
1 votes:
Valuing a person because of their race, religion, or sex is foolish. Value a person for who they are, not what they are.
2013-05-18 02:16:20 PM
1 votes:

Horse Head Bookends: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?


I do happen to be a white heterosexual male and I am not complaining about anything in my life.  I think I got it pretty good.  I just see it as kind of funny that any individual is excluded from a diversity council leadership position based on gender, race and sexual orientation.  I am, however, certain this kid will be just fine.
2013-05-18 02:15:58 PM
1 votes:

Horse Head Bookends: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?


just ignore him, man, cameroncrazy1984 is a bisexual rights activist - - nothing you say is going to make him feel 'un-repressed'.
2013-05-18 02:10:31 PM
1 votes:
So this is the thread where Fark bands together in collective outrage that someone would be explicitly passed over for a position because of their sexuality, gender, or race, and raises a great battle cry of equality and justice for all human beings, right?

Right?

W-why are you all laughing at me?
2013-05-18 02:09:57 PM
1 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?


Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?
 Also, the outgoing VP he would have replaced said he was the "most qualified," but I'm guessing you didn't bother to read that part.
2013-05-18 02:07:39 PM
1 votes:

Vectron: I think one could say the same about George Zimmerman, yet look at the narrative created my the entire mainstream media.


Luckily, he'll get a trial, and a jury. Emmett Till's killers were graced with neither.
The multitudes of black men who were lynched got no such justice; so when I hear about some white kid who didn't get to lead a diversity group, pardon me, if I'm not singing the blues.
2013-05-18 02:02:59 PM
1 votes:
Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?
2013-05-18 01:56:04 PM
1 votes:

pxlboy: kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.

I watch several hundred commercials per week at my job. We prepare ad media for broadcast in markets all across the country.

Things I have learned from this job:

1. Auto and furniture dealers seem to advertise the most
2. Everyone pays more for gold than the "other guys"
3. Men are hapless morons while women are confident and infallible
4. There is plenty of racial diversity going on
5. Spanish language alternates of certain ad spots are unintentionally hilarious
6. Auto dealerships will finance a car for 6 years and no one bats an eye
7. Anything goes in the Vegas market
8. "Conservative" politicians seem to be the only ones advertising on TV and are crawling over each other to show who hates Obama the most and the most "conservative"
9. Infomercials are still delivered on Beta SP tapes in the lowest possible quality
10. Public access TV is some hilarious sh*t



12. Though Hollywood is surrounded by a sea of millions of Mexicans, they don't appear on TV. Black people are the favored minority.
2013-05-18 01:50:51 PM
1 votes:
Cultural Marxists are funny.
2013-05-18 01:50:50 PM
1 votes:

Moonfisher: Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"


Oh, bless your heart. I don't think this is oppression. It's just PC silliness run amock.
2013-05-18 01:41:49 PM
1 votes:

Elmo Jones: WhippingBoy: Let this be a grim warning to White Knights everywhere...

If this is a "grim" warning, you're a little b*tch.
Emmett Till is a grim warning.
James Byrd is a grim warning.

I can only hope that I've clarified this.


Oooh! I'll play!

Christopher Newsome is a grim warning.
Channon Christian is a grim warning.

Fun!
2013-05-18 01:41:48 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Rincewind53: Eh, I'm okay with that. I actually do tend to agree that having a white, heterosexual male in charge of diversity sends the wrong message.

As the comments from fellow students indicate, the nominee demonstrated virtually no experience with the multicultural groups he would have to work with.  Having a lesbian sister does not mean you understand lesbian issues.   It's no better than saying, "I have friends who are __________."


That statement could apply to virtually everyone, regardless of the individuals sex, race, religion... etc.
2013-05-18 01:40:04 PM
1 votes:
As a white heterosexual male I have to say that diversity is very close to my heart.  Now, bring on the interracial lesbian porn!!!!
2013-05-18 01:36:43 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: Owangotang: WhippingBoy: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

The sad thing is, I don't disagree with you.

You may not disagree but you will be wrong. There will not be a moment as built up to over one hundred plus years that targets white, straight males. There will undoubtedly be minor moments where white straight males cry that they are being persecuted, however no one will give a shiat.

I'm not claiming to be persecuted. I'm just saying I recognize bigotry when I see it.


There is no doubt that discrimination and even bigotry against white, straight males exists. It may even be growing. It won't, however, lead to a moment anything like the sheriff turning the hoses on the kids. Maybe that is the enduring balancing of racial history, a lukewarm bigotry against white straight males that never fully resolves. I don't know.
2013-05-18 01:32:54 PM
1 votes:

cig-mkr: kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.

I do see diversity in commercials, probably not enough but how often are the minorities portrayed as bumbling idiots vs. white males ? Write that tiny number down .


This is the most ridiculously stupid chip I've seen on anyone's shoulder in years. Kudos.
2013-05-18 01:30:59 PM
1 votes:

jehovahs witness protection


Until then, we must pay for the crime of being white heterosexual men.


*shrug* Okay. The fines haven't bothered me so far.
2013-05-18 01:28:49 PM
1 votes:
When a black guy gets a job in front of a white guy, it's based on race. When a white guy gets a job ahead of a black guy, it's because the white guy interviewed better and was a more polished candidate. As a white, heterosexual, college educated male, I need a hug because of all this oppression.
2013-05-18 01:24:53 PM
1 votes:

I Browse: WTFdoesitmatter: Some people have to learn the real meaning of diversity the hard way. Hopefully, this student will refocus his life on something besides trying to implement reverse racism.


What's the real meaning of diversity, in your opinion?


Having everybody on equal footing. If someone is qualified or unqualified for a position, it shouldn't matter what color they are.
2013-05-18 01:20:44 PM
1 votes:

The Homer Tax: WhippingBoy: The Homer Tax: Popcorn Johnny: It's impossible to be racist against white people. Fark taught me that a long time ago.

It's possible to be racist against white people, it's just that you're not going to get any sympathy when you start whining about it because being a white male is so Farking awesome.

I love being a white guy, it's the best. Oh noes I might not be able to be "vice president in charge of diversity" or whatever. I guess I'll just have to settle for being "president of the United States" instead. Or you know... Absolutely anything else my mind can imagine for the most part.

Exactly. Ain't no way a black man will ever become President of the United States. Check your privilege, ghost-face.

43:1, lets just say the odds are in my favor.


I'm curious. Do you have a special "goal-post moving" machine, or do you just move them through good ol' hard work?
/I'm guessing a machine
2013-05-18 01:18:43 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: The Homer Tax: Popcorn Johnny: It's impossible to be racist against white people. Fark taught me that a long time ago.

It's possible to be racist against white people, it's just that you're not going to get any sympathy when you start whining about it because being a white male is so Farking awesome.

I love being a white guy, it's the best. Oh noes I might not be able to be "vice president in charge of diversity" or whatever. I guess I'll just have to settle for being "president of the United States" instead. Or you know... Absolutely anything else my mind can imagine for the most part.

Exactly. Ain't no way a black man will ever become President of the United States. Check your privilege, ghost-face.


43:1, lets just say the odds are in my favor.
2013-05-18 01:07:41 PM
1 votes:

halB: Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.


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2013-05-18 01:00:54 PM
1 votes:

halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.


The sad thing is, I don't disagree with you.
2013-05-18 12:59:56 PM
1 votes:
The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.
2013-05-18 12:57:35 PM
1 votes:
It's impossible to be racist against white people. Fark taught me that a long time ago.
2013-05-18 11:58:54 AM
1 votes:

Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.

The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?

He was voted down. The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.

And people never vote based on prejudices? It seems the person whom he was to replace thought he was the most qualified of all the candidates, not merely qualified. Do you disagree with that opinion, which seemed I be shared by the author of the editorial of the school newspaper and many commenters? You seem to have some specific insight, so would you care to share it?


In my opinion, you're reading into the opinion you want to read into, because it's the one that makes you feel the most victimized.

"According to the author of this editorial" is never valid evidence for anything but that the author had that opinion.
2013-05-18 11:03:33 AM
1 votes:

Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.

The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?


He was voted down. The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.
2013-05-18 10:48:39 AM
1 votes:
Wait, these nominations were blocked by the student senate? By a vote?

How can FOXNews possibly have a problem with nominations being blocked by the Senate? Oh, wait, he was voted down. That's not a filibuster. Can't have that.
 
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