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2013-05-18 03:22:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?


You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?
 
2013-05-18 03:22:49 PM

bunner: Vectron: And those evil, greedy white men won't put supermarkets into black neighborhoods because the want to starve black children rather than make money.

If you want to know why there's no money moving through a given neighborhood, check the crime reports.  Lean into "crimes against  people", "robbery" and "assault".  Crime keeps you poor.  Because people spend money places where they ain't gonna get jacked.  And I don't give a sh*t if the people who live in that high crime area are white, black, plaid or light gray.  Money goes where money get what it pays for, and when it rolls smooth, that's what it stays for, or else it rolls out to the fine trimmed lawns, the storefronts close and the neighborhood's gone.  The ghetto isn't where you live, it's how you live.  Buildings are ideologically inert.  Deal.


Hey, bunner. I'm with you on that. I was using...sarcasm?.
 
2013-05-18 03:24:21 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: I didn'taccuse him of bias. I want to know why you think he is not biased.

Oh, did you not say that you included him with all of those "butthurt conservatives"?

No, I included him in the set of people who believe that was the only reason he was voted down.

So, when I asked you if "butthurt conservatives" included him, and you said, "even him," that's not what you meant?

You didn't ask if "butthurt conservatives" specifically included him. You asked "does that include him"?

Additionally, do you think that the fact that there were two other, more senior non-white candidates voted down is indicative that it must be the color of his skin that was the deciding factor?


It tells me nothing. Why do you think it negates the possibility?
 
2013-05-18 03:24:37 PM

Vectron: bunner: Vectron: And those evil, greedy white men won't put supermarkets into black neighborhoods because the want to starve black children rather than make money.

If you want to know why there's no money moving through a given neighborhood, check the crime reports.  Lean into "crimes against  people", "robbery" and "assault".  Crime keeps you poor.  Because people spend money places where they ain't gonna get jacked.  And I don't give a sh*t if the people who live in that high crime area are white, black, plaid or light gray.  Money goes where money get what it pays for, and when it rolls smooth, that's what it stays for, or else it rolls out to the fine trimmed lawns, the storefronts close and the neighborhood's gone.  The ghetto isn't where you live, it's how you live.  Buildings are ideologically inert.  Deal.

Hey, bunner. I'm with you on that. I was using...sarcasm?.


Well, yeah.. I was just expanding on the necessity of the sarcasm.  Please don't shoot that moth with your elephant howitzer.   :  )
 
2013-05-18 03:25:38 PM

Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong: Is there a group of people in this world more self-absorbedly annoying than heterosexual white dudes? When you guys live in a nation built upon slavery of white guys, where guys couldn't hold property or vote, or had to deal with decades of institutionalized racism then you can biatch about being oppressed. Until then you're still the highest paid and most powerful demographic in the country.


I have lived all my life without being mugged at gunpoint.  If it happens today, have I no right to complain about it?  If I have a lot of money in the bank, have I no right to complain about being mugged?
 
2013-05-18 03:28:02 PM

Karvey: Is it finally cool to say 'nubian'?


What's a nubian?
 
2013-05-18 03:28:28 PM

puppetmaster745: Are you kidding? One McDonalds commercial would cover just about everyone. Except for Asians. Nobody gives a shiat about asians.


How about Mexicans? That are some many Mexicans in the US. Their population will surpass whites this century. You rarely see them in TV movies.
Are you Asian? How come you guys never watch football games with your white friends on Sundays? At least you're never in commercials. What do you have against football?
 
2013-05-18 03:29:11 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: I didn'taccuse him of bias. I want to know why you think he is not biased.

Oh, did you not say that you included him with all of those "butthurt conservatives"?

No, I included him in the set of people who believe that was the only reason he was voted down.

So, when I asked you if "butthurt conservatives" included him, and you said, "even him," that's not what you meant?

You didn't ask if "butthurt conservatives" specifically included him. You asked "does that include him"?

Additionally, do you think that the fact that there were two other, more senior non-white candidates voted down is indicative that it must be the color of his skin that was the deciding factor?


You win the prize for irrelevancy.  Those two other candidates were not nominated for the diversity position.
 
2013-05-18 03:31:15 PM

ciberido: Karvey: Is it finally cool to say 'nubian'?

What's a nubian?


A person who was from a region S of Egypt in N Africa.  I don't think the culture or it's trappings are still extant in modern times.
 
2013-05-18 03:35:14 PM
If a white person who didn't get a job that he wasn't even qualified to have is the best case for your "it's so hard being white" argument, I am NOT impressed.
 
2013-05-18 03:40:31 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Huh.  Seems this "diversity and inclusion task force" has been around only since Fall, 2012.

What a pathetic set of autobiographies, except for the very last guy - who wrote nothing. :-)

http://www.northwestern.edu/inclusion/about-us/meet-inclusion-task-f or ce.html


I see a lot of future baristas on that list.
 
2013-05-18 03:42:02 PM

Molavian: BarkingUnicorn: Huh.  Seems this "diversity and inclusion task force" has been around only since Fall, 2012.

What a pathetic set of autobiographies, except for the very last guy - who wrote nothing. :-)

http://www.northwestern.edu/inclusion/about-us/meet-inclusion-task-f or ce.html

I see a lot of future baristas on that list.


Yeah. Not exactly the "movers and shakers" of the next generation.
 
2013-05-18 03:52:28 PM

Vectron: puppetmaster745: Are you kidding? One McDonalds commercial would cover just about everyone. Except for Asians. Nobody gives a shiat about asians.

How about Mexicans? That are some many Mexicans in the US. Their population will surpass whites this century. You rarely see them in TV movies.
Are you Asian? How come you guys never watch football games with your white friends on Sundays? At least you're never in commercials. What do you have against football?


I'm not asian, but I can make "squinty eyes" as good as any Spanish Olympic basketball team.

www.angryasianman.com
 
2013-05-18 03:55:26 PM

cig-mkr: kwame: cig-mkr: kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.

I do see diversity in commercials, probably not enough but how often are the minorities portrayed as bumbling idiots vs. white males ? Write that tiny number down .

This is the most ridiculously stupid chip I've seen on anyone's shoulder in years. Kudos.

Not a chip, a very small pet peeve.


It's a pet peeve of mine, too.
 
2013-05-18 03:55:31 PM

ciberido: kwame: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

LOL

Seriously?

So much butthurt in this thread.  If we could just find some way to harness it, we wouldn't need to worry about oil.


Even if we did harness it, what would be the point? Those evil white people would just steal it from us.
 
2013-05-18 03:57:03 PM

Moonfisher: Poor little oppressed white people.  I'm white and a woman to boot, so I've been trampled left and right.  No wait... that's utter bullshiat.  I've watched myself get preference for promotion over equally qualified Hispanic folks in almost every job I've held.  I've watched my best friend in high school, a black girl, get punished for something we were both doing while I was ignored, despite my protestations.  I was pulled over while driving through Texas with a black man and asked, "Are you okay, ma'am?"  It's like all the white people were born with a big bag of candy while the minorities were born with a sack of stale orange peanuts, and when someone tries to give them a gumball or two, we start screaming, "Where's mine!"


That's an awfully big chip you have on your shoulder.
 
2013-05-18 03:58:25 PM

puppetmaster745: cig-mkr: kwame: cig-mkr: kwame: cig-mkr: Can't have  white heterosexual males on diversity panels, but we sure can make them look like clowns on commercials.

Being represented poorly is at least still being represented. Count the ethnicities represented on commercials during one afternoon of television. Write that tiny number down. Then get over yourself.

I do see diversity in commercials, probably not enough but how often are the minorities portrayed as bumbling idiots vs. white males ? Write that tiny number down .

This is the most ridiculously stupid chip I've seen on anyone's shoulder in years. Kudos.

Not a chip, a very small pet peeve.

It's a pet peeve of mine, too.


and mine. I'm glad to find out that other people notice.
 
2013-05-18 04:05:06 PM
except white heterosexual males

The most persecuted minority OF ALL TIME.
 
2013-05-18 04:08:45 PM

Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?

You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?


Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.
 
2013-05-18 04:11:03 PM
Hiring a white heterosexual male to represent diversity issues is like hiring a deaf man to lead a symphony appreciation society. It's possible that he's qualified, but he'd have to, metaphorically, be the Beethoven of race relations.
 
2013-05-18 04:12:44 PM
Is this douche a troll? why would a white hetero male run for 'diversity' club president anyway? do you see a black or Hispanic running for Young Republican Club president?
 
2013-05-18 04:14:00 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Is this douche a troll? why would a white hetero male run for 'diversity' club president anyway? do you see a black or Hispanic running for Young Republican Club president?


He's the ultimate White Knight. I wonder what his Fark handle is.
 
2013-05-18 04:18:48 PM
Why a white male would want to subject themselves to that bowl of McDonalds commercialesque crazy is beyond me.  He should just give it ten years, when white males will actually be a minority lol.  Oh well.  The lengths some folks will go to for a parking space...
 
2013-05-18 04:21:14 PM

puppetmaster745: Vectron: puppetmaster745: Are you kidding? One McDonalds commercial would cover just about everyone. Except for Asians. Nobody gives a shiat about asians.

How about Mexicans? That are some many Mexicans in the US. Their population will surpass whites this century. You rarely see them in TV movies.
Are you Asian? How come you guys never watch football games with your white friends on Sundays? At least you're never in commercials. What do you have against football?

I'm not asian, but I can make "squinty eyes" as good as any Spanish Olympic basketball team.

[www.angryasianman.com image 450x300]


Why you hate Asians you lacist plick?
 
2013-05-18 04:29:32 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?

You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?

Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.


And there is no evidence that it was not the case.
 
2013-05-18 04:31:13 PM

Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Mock26: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?

You do realize that if you exclude someone from a leadership position because he is white and heterosexual that you really do not understand the definition of "diverse," right?

Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.

And there is no evidence that it was not the case.


Oh so by all means let's just assume that it was the case, then?
 
2013-05-18 04:41:11 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.


Except for that part right in TFA where a member of the diversity committee explicitly said that was the case here.

"This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."
 
2013-05-18 04:44:27 PM

Popcorn Johnny: halB: Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.


They already do.
 
2013-05-18 04:49:52 PM

GoldSpider: cameroncrazy1984: Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.

Except for that part right in TFA where a member of the diversity committee explicitly said that was the case here.

"This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."


So, the opinion of one person means that everyone who voted felt that way? Since when?
 
2013-05-18 04:53:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: GoldSpider: cameroncrazy1984: Yes. However, there is no evidence that this was the case here.

Except for that part right in TFA where a member of the diversity committee explicitly said that was the case here.

"This university is not ready, in any capacity, for a heterosexual white male to be in charge in any way of diversity and inclusion," said Ian Coley, a member of the diversity committee. "I don't know if any university is."

So, the opinion of one person means that everyone who voted felt that way? Since when?


Don't be intellectually dishonest. You *know* they felt that way.
 
2013-05-18 04:57:03 PM
I have no idea why racism is on the rise amongst whites, could it be that diversity is bullshiat and what it means is "Everyone but you" to white males? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
 
2013-05-18 05:01:05 PM

cameroncrazy1984: So, the opinion of one person means that everyone who voted felt that way? Since when?


It's evident he believes his fellow committee members share his sentiments, even if he's not necessarily speaking on their behalf.
 
2013-05-18 05:03:13 PM

atomicmask: I have no idea why racism is on the rise amongst whites, could it be that diversity is bullshiat and what it means is "Everyone but you" to white males? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.


you racist piece of straight shiat shut the fark up and enjoy your minimal wage job. also, please give you scholarship to whoever on your street has the darkest skin and the funniest sounding name. now go take your place in the corner.
 
2013-05-18 05:03:16 PM

GoldSpider: cameroncrazy1984: So, the opinion of one person means that everyone who voted felt that way? Since when?

It's evident he believes his fellow committee members share his sentiments, even if he's not necessarily speaking on their behalf.


How so? He doesn't say "this committee  believes." He is speaking for himself. There is no evidence that everyone who voted feels this way.
 
2013-05-18 05:06:05 PM

WhippingBoy: Don't be intellectually dishonest. You *know* they felt that way.


It's amazing what people will convince themselves of in order to preserve their worldview.
 
2013-05-18 05:07:22 PM

GoldSpider: WhippingBoy: Don't be intellectually dishonest. You *know* they felt that way.

It's amazing what people will convince themselves of in order to preserve their worldview.


It is indeed.
 
2013-05-18 05:11:04 PM

utah dude: atomicmask: I have no idea why racism is on the rise amongst whites, could it be that diversity is bullshiat and what it means is "Everyone but you" to white males? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

you racist piece of straight shiat shut the fark up and enjoy your minimal wage job. also, please give you scholarship to whoever on your street has the darkest skin and the funniest sounding name. now go take your place in the corner.


I will try, but the corner is already claimed by Meso-americans for "la-raza"
 
2013-05-18 05:13:25 PM
 
2013-05-18 05:13:57 PM

atomicmask: utah dude: atomicmask: I have no idea why racism is on the rise amongst whites, could it be that diversity is bullshiat and what it means is "Everyone but you" to white males? I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

you racist piece of straight shiat shut the fark up and enjoy your minimal wage job. also, please give you scholarship to whoever on your street has the darkest skin and the funniest sounding name. now go take your place in the corner.

I will try, but the corner is already claimed by Meso-americans for "la-raza"


nice. 10 points. just favorited you.
 
2013-05-18 05:16:31 PM

utah dude: you racist piece of straight shiat shut the fark up and enjoy your minimal wage job


Sounds like someone's protesting a bit much. The REAL racists are the ones who point out the racism, right?
 
2013-05-18 05:25:03 PM

cameroncrazy1984: utah dude: you racist piece of straight shiat shut the fark up and enjoy your minimal wage job

Sounds like someone's protesting a bit much. The REAL racists are the ones who point out the racism, right?


i guess i'm a real racist. because i believe in diversity. yah i know that sounds backwards.

but i believe 'white, male' is also one of the categories that needs to be selectively hired, preferred, etc.

and that we should stop educating china and sending those degrees back to china. it's not buying us ANYTHING.
 
2013-05-18 05:28:11 PM

kimmygibblershomework: Why a white male would want to subject themselves to that bowl of McDonalds commercialesque crazy is beyond me.  He should just give it ten years, when white males will actually be a minority lol.  Oh well.   The lengths some folks will go to for a parking space...


That's no way to talk about your Mom's vaj, even though it's accurate.

The candidate attended Norwich Free Academy, which is so proud of its diversity that there are detailed demographics on its Wiki page.  I think he might have a sincere interest in fostering diversity.
 
2013-05-18 05:29:02 PM

BSABSVR: This thread is just so goddamned brave.


Fedoras, fedoras everywhere.
 
2013-05-18 05:29:58 PM
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
 
2013-05-18 05:33:17 PM

utah dude: i guess i'm a real racist. because i believe in diversity


Oh yeah clearly you do.
 
2013-05-18 05:36:46 PM

GoldSpider: cameroncrazy1984: There is no evidence that everyone who voted feels this way.

Attendees at the meeting claimed that because of these identifying factors, Piotrkowski could not adequately serve Northwestern's multicultural communities. Some even said his identification with a religious minority and his experiences having a sister who is a lesbian weren't good enough to make him qualified for the job.

Apparently the people who were actually at the meeting are making it up too, and are probably racists themselves.


Trying to point out evidence to the contrary has failed for six hours now. You are wasting your energy trying to reason with someone who does not intend to be reasoned with on this issue.
 
2013-05-18 05:37:26 PM
I get identifying by gender because chicks are wack. That people still identify by color baffles me.  I'm white and I have way less in common with white people as a group than I do with people that actually share my interests.  Hell I'm bald before I'm white.  Nobody cares about the prejudice we face.
 
2013-05-18 05:39:12 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Fedoras, fedoras everywhere.


I read that as 'fedoras, everyone, fedoras'
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2013-05-18 05:42:24 PM

kingoomieiii: JesusJuice: I'm pretty sure the real racism and bigotry was when he was voted down for no reason other than the color of his skin and sexual orientation.

Three candidates were voted down in the election. There's suddenly a shiatstorm about the white one. The white one who was, by the way, the most junior member to be nominated.

It's funny every time a bunch of white people get up in arms when they find out about a place where white people aren't in charge, and then are denied when they try to be in charge. "It's discrimination!" they cry.

But cheer up. Straight, white males control the vast majority of the government, the military, the private sector, entertainment industry, everything. Meanwhile white business owners think it's not racist to dump a resume in the garbage because the name at the top says "Latisha" or "Treyshawn" because they 'can't take that name seriously'. Between a black couple and a white couple with the exact same finances and credit rating, the white couple is much more likely to qualify for a bank loan. And more white children have gotten into colleges via "legacy" than affirmative action ever have- a chain of "legacy" that started before minority students were accepted by colleges at all.


Did you rtfa? He was voted down BECAUSE he was a straight, white male. They come right out and say it. There's no ambiguity.
 
2013-05-18 05:47:42 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Oh yeah clearly you do.


iranian wife, mexican son... uh numerous pro-gay rallies and such (despite the whole church prop 8 thing), so yah.

if i miss out on another job opportunity because of race i'll prolly call the interviewing person whatever racist moniker is deserved. because i'm human too.
 
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