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2013-05-18 01:58:39 PM

Fark It: BunkyBrewman: So the guy used the 'ol "But I know someone who is .a .........." as a qualification to be nominated for the position.

From the article:

The outgoing vice president for diversity and inclusion had endorsed Piotrkowsi as the best candidate for the job - noting that he identifies with a religious minority and has a sister who is gay.


Pray tell... how does the butthurt gentleman from Northwestern identify with a religious minority?   An endorsement from a friend at college is meaningless as well as having a sister (or daughter) who is gay.  (Dick Cheney comes to mind who was against gay marriage until he stopped running for office, now he's for it)
 
2013-05-18 01:59:12 PM

Elmo Jones: WhippingBoy: Oooh! I'll play!

Christopher Newsome is a grim warning.
Channon Christian is a grim warning.

Fun!

Police Chief Sterling Owen IV said that there is no indication the crimes were racially motivated and that the murders and assault "appears to have been a random violent act."
"There is absolutely no proof of a hate crime," said John Gill, special counsel to Knox County District Atty. Randy Nichols. "We know from our investigation that the people charged in this case were friends with white people, socialized with white people, dated white people. So not only is there no evidence of any racial animus, there's evidence to the contrary.
(sourced wiki article)

So, I guess the warning is "don't get carjacked?" And since you didn't address the first part of my post, I guess that means you are a little b*tch. That's how I'll remember you.



I think one could say the same about George Zimmerman, yet look at the narrative created my the entire mainstream media.
 
2013-05-18 01:59:13 PM
This is a position that should be reserved for a person of color.  A person of no color shouldn't be applying for it.


/learning the lingo
 
2013-05-18 02:00:00 PM

WhippingBoy: Elmo Jones:So, I guess the warning is "don't get carjacked?" And since you didn't address the first part of my post, I guess that means you are a little b*tch. That's how I'll remember you.

I am a little biatch.


Well, I guess that makes your login appropriate.
 
2013-05-18 02:00:54 PM

Nabb1: WhippingBoy: Elmo Jones:So, I guess the warning is "don't get carjacked?" And since you didn't address the first part of my post, I guess that means you are a little b*tch. That's how I'll remember you.

I am a little biatch.

Well, I guess that makes your login appropriate.


Really? You people have never heard the term "whipping boy" before? I was worried I was being *too* obvious.
 
2013-05-18 02:01:25 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Rincewind53: Eh, I'm okay with that. I actually do tend to agree that having a white, heterosexual male in charge of diversity sends the wrong message.

As the comments from fellow students indicate, the nominee demonstrated virtually no experience with the multicultural groups he would have to work with.  Having a lesbian sister does not mean you understand lesbian issues.  It's no better than saying, "I have friends who are __________."


Well, I guess that about wraps up this thread.
 
2013-05-18 02:02:01 PM

Wulfman: This is a position that should be reserved for a person of color.  A person of no color shouldn't be applying for it.


/learning the lingo


How about the "differently abled"?
 
2013-05-18 02:02:33 PM
www.johnnymoneyseed.com
 
2013-05-18 02:02:39 PM
Like how African-American means black people and not the various races that inhabit Africa, "diversity" in this country means no white people instead of diversity.
 
2013-05-18 02:02:54 PM
White males are also the villain in movies 98% of the time.  Saw Into Darkness last night....two villains, both white dudes.
 
2013-05-18 02:02:59 PM
Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?
 
2013-05-18 02:03:33 PM

Vectron: Wulfman: This is a position that should be reserved for a person of color.  A person of no color shouldn't be applying for it.


/learning the lingo

How about the "differently abled"?



Pretty sure you're not supposed to refer to people as "different", you hate-monger.  Ought to report you to the Internet Bosses.
 
2013-05-18 02:03:37 PM

Pumpernickel bread: White males are also the villain in movies 98% of the time.  Saw Into Darkness last night....two villains, both white dudes.


THANKS FOR TEH SPOILERS!
 
2013-05-18 02:07:38 PM

Wulfman: Vectron: Wulfman: This is a position that should be reserved for a person of color.  A person of no color shouldn't be applying for it.


/learning the lingo

How about the "differently abled"?


Pretty sure you're not supposed to refer to people as "different", you hate-monger.  Ought to report you to the Internet Bosses.



Believe me, that gets done on a regular basis.
 
2013-05-18 02:07:39 PM

Vectron: I think one could say the same about George Zimmerman, yet look at the narrative created my the entire mainstream media.


Luckily, he'll get a trial, and a jury. Emmett Till's killers were graced with neither.
The multitudes of black men who were lynched got no such justice; so when I hear about some white kid who didn't get to lead a diversity group, pardon me, if I'm not singing the blues.
 
2013-05-18 02:08:27 PM

Farty McPooPants: I worked under contract at a very large corporation that celebrated their diversity to a high degree.  Nothing wrong with that at all.
There were posters everywhere (that bordered on propaganda) touting their love of diversity and how it was so vital to their success.  Not one of them had a white male in them even though white males were quite prevalent and were definitely doing the heavy lifting in pretty much every aspect of their business.  When someone finally made a comment about this, they replaced all of the posters.
They now include a white male, a very fabulous white male.  HR smiled and and basically said FTFY.


I also worked under contract for a very large corporation that also celebrated their diversity to a large degree. In fact my work included helping their communications efforts to promote diversity and I'm a white heterosexual male. Their diversity efforts extended to several foreign countries such as China, Brazil, South Africa and others.
I caused a lot of consternation when I asked how diversity would be observed in China. It was finally concluded that hiring women was the solution.
I wanted to suggest they look for caucasian men since they are a minority in China but decided that keeping the work was more important than making a point.
 
2013-05-18 02:09:57 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?


Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?
 Also, the outgoing VP he would have replaced said he was the "most qualified," but I'm guessing you didn't bother to read that part.
 
2013-05-18 02:10:31 PM
So this is the thread where Fark bands together in collective outrage that someone would be explicitly passed over for a position because of their sexuality, gender, or race, and raises a great battle cry of equality and justice for all human beings, right?

Right?

W-why are you all laughing at me?
 
2013-05-18 02:11:17 PM
I have all the money and I have all the power, but I'm not feeling enough of your love.
 
2013-05-18 02:12:05 PM

Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?
 Also, the outgoing VP he would have replaced said he was the "most qualified," but I'm guessing you didn't bother to read that part.


Of course he didn't - he's Duke edumacated.
 
2013-05-18 02:12:12 PM

WhippingBoy: Really? You people have never heard the term "whipping boy" before? I was worried I was being *too* obvious.


Will y'all excuse me? There seems to be a pointy metal thing in my mouth. There's a string, and some sort of weight attached to it, as well.
 
2013-05-18 02:12:39 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?


So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?
 
2013-05-18 02:13:02 PM

Dear Jerk: I have all the money and I have all the power, but I'm not feeling enough of your love.


It's tough to be King.
 
2013-05-18 02:13:14 PM

Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?


No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.
 
2013-05-18 02:14:06 PM

Elmo Jones: WhippingBoy: Really? You people have never heard the term "whipping boy" before? I was worried I was being *too* obvious.

Will y'all excuse me? There seems to be a pointy metal thing in my mouth. There's a string, and some sort of weight attached to it, as well.


Uh... not exactly...
 
2013-05-18 02:14:49 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?

No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.


Why? Because he's white and straight?
 
2013-05-18 02:15:20 PM

BunkyBrewman: Fark It: BunkyBrewman: So the guy used the 'ol "But I know someone who is .a .........." as a qualification to be nominated for the position.

From the article:

The outgoing vice president for diversity and inclusion had endorsed Piotrkowsi as the best candidate for the job - noting that he identifies with a religious minority and has a sister who is gay.

Pray tell... how does the butthurt gentleman from Northwestern identify with a religious minority?   An endorsement from a friend at college is meaningless as well as having a sister (or daughter) who is gay.  (Dick Cheney comes to mind who was against gay marriage until he stopped running for office, now he's for it)


True, life experiences have no bearing on your role on a diversity panel, apparently.  Neither does your experience working with a group called the "Inclusion Task Force."

What's kind of frightening to me is that the skin color and sexual orientation became the focus of this, rather than the candidate's individual merits and prior experiences, and the position he was being considered for was not in any way meant to represent the multicultural community, but rather to oversee diversity initiatives from other campus groups.

Anyway, I think this is just more a case of a bunch of narcissistic teenagers with too much power being narcissistic teenagers with too much power more than anything.
 
2013-05-18 02:15:34 PM

Horse Head Bookends: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?


Because "Thanks Obama!", that's why.
 
2013-05-18 02:15:58 PM

Horse Head Bookends: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?


just ignore him, man, cameroncrazy1984 is a bisexual rights activist - - nothing you say is going to make him feel 'un-repressed'.
 
2013-05-18 02:16:20 PM

Horse Head Bookends: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?


I do happen to be a white heterosexual male and I am not complaining about anything in my life.  I think I got it pretty good.  I just see it as kind of funny that any individual is excluded from a diversity council leadership position based on gender, race and sexual orientation.  I am, however, certain this kid will be just fine.
 
2013-05-18 02:18:17 PM

kingoomieiii: Nabb1: kingoomieiii: Nabb1: "Diversity" is like Orwell's  Animal Farm: some are more equal than others.

The victims of racism are the real racists, always.

Also, I like how a national news agency is reporting on (a misrepresentation of) a student decision like it actually matters. Gotta keep the paranoids listening to right-wing radio.

The white heterosexual guy who wanted to be on the diversity committee was a racist? Do you have something against white heterosexual males?

He was voted down. The real racism is assuming that just because he was white and qualified, he would automatically get the job.


I'm pretty sure the real racism and bigotry was when he was voted down for no reason other than the color of his skin and sexual orientation.

Would it be wrong if someone was denied a position for being black and/or gay? Then it's wrong for someone to be denied a position for not being those things.
 
2013-05-18 02:19:23 PM
All this big talk! Wake me up when an Asian-Latina, transexual Jew is elected POTUS with John Edwards as her VP.

If only the Lincoln Room could talk.
 
2013-05-18 02:22:10 PM

Elmo Jones: Vectron: I think one could say the same about George Zimmerman, yet look at the narrative created my the entire mainstream media.

Luckily, he'll get a trial, and a jury. Emmett Till's killers were graced with neither.
The multitudes of black men who were lynched got no such justice; so when I hear about some white kid who didn't get to lead a diversity group, pardon me, if I'm not singing the blues.



Look, there is sooo much black on white crime in this country it has to be hidden from the public. There was a Time Magazine article from the 1950's in fact, that said black on white crime was being censored back then (so we could move forward with civil rights?). We will never know for sure how much of any crime is motivated by race but we've seen police reluctant to label crimes as hate when the victim is white.

Blacks have got back at whitey in spades.
 
2013-05-18 02:23:06 PM
From the Daily Northwestern editorial:

Hayley Stevens, the outgoing associate vice president for diversity and inclusion, stood by the decision to nominate Piotrkowski, who worked for her on the diversity and inclusion committee.

"He was our best candidate," she said. "My position is not meant to represent the multicultural community. That's not what it's here for. We are here to hear about different diversity initiatives going on across campus. We're meant to streamline them. We're meant to connect them to other groups."
 So the job involves monitoring and managing troublemakers, not helping them make trouble.  Sounds like a white hetero male with "minority religious" background (read, "evangelical Christian sect") is the best candidate.
 
2013-05-18 02:23:26 PM
...This is literally the dumbest thing I have ever seen come out of Fox News. A bunch of students had a vote that was possibly racist? Wow, send in the helicopters.

/Seriously, the campus is already hashing this out, let them get on with it.
//If you want a college horror story, go check out statistics on how many women get raped on campuses.
 
2013-05-18 02:25:15 PM

utah dude: Horse Head Bookends: cameroncrazy1984: Wait, so he thought he was qualified because his sister is a lesbian? In that case, wouldn't Dick Cheney be equally as qualified as a minority?

So the only thing that qualifies you for a diversity council is to be a minority?  Maybe I don't understand.  When did diversity and inclusion start excluding people?

just ignore him, man, cameroncrazy1984 is a bisexual rights activist - - nothing you say is going to make him feel 'un-repressed'.


You may have me confused for someone else.
 
2013-05-18 02:25:28 PM

WhippingBoy: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

The sad thing is, I don't disagree with you.


Point of order, white males do not need special laws to protect us. We who have raped and pillaged across the world throughout time will indeed take what we want when we want it.
// over ther the sultry wench with the red hair, take her clothes off and fetch her to me.
 
2013-05-18 02:26:16 PM

Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?

No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.

Why? Because he's white and straight?


Because those aren't qualifications for running a diversity campaign.
 
2013-05-18 02:29:26 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: WhippingBoy: halB: The best thing to ever happen to the civil rights movement was when that sheriff turned the fire hoses on those poor little black kids trying to go to school - in front of the cameras.  It wasn't until that scene that America realized just how ugly racism can be.

Soon, white heterosexual males will have a similar moment.

The sad thing is, I don't disagree with you.

Point of order, white males do not need special laws to protect us. We who have raped and pillaged across the world throughout time will indeed take what we want when we want it.
// over ther the sultry wench with the red hair, take her clothes off and fetch her to me.


Yeah, you're right. I was being a bit melodramatic. What we want, we take... there's very little who can oppose us.
 
2013-05-18 02:30:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?

No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.


This.  It sounds like the guy just didn't interview well.  He presented no accomplishments, no goals, no ideas, just the lamest excuses for qualifications.  The outgoing AVP didn't mention any specifics about him, either.

Reminds me of a meeting in which the promotion of a woman to a management position was announced.  Her new boss said,

"Diane is going to be the new __________ because... well, because she's been here the longest."

That worked out about as well you expect.
 
2013-05-18 02:30:52 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Are you saying straight white men can't help work towards increasing diversity in a campus setting?

No, I'm saying that saying that you're qualified to lead a diversity campaign because your sister is a lesbian and you "identify" with a religious minority is stupid.

Why? Because he's white and straight?

Because those aren't qualifications for running a diversity campaign.


Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation? Does it not matter that the outgoing person he would have replaced thought he was "the most qualified for the job"?
 
2013-05-18 02:30:57 PM
Valuing a person because of their race, religion, or sex is foolish. Value a person for who they are, not what they are.
 
2013-05-18 02:31:13 PM

Vectron:
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www.blacktopcomedy.com


WhippingBoy:
Uh... not exactly...

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2013-05-18 02:32:36 PM

Pumpernickel bread: White males are also the villain in movies 98% of the time.


White males are also the heroes in movies 98% of the time. So it kinda evens out.
 
2013-05-18 02:32:55 PM

Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?


No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?
 
2013-05-18 02:34:39 PM
We need picture of hot nekid red head women up in here
 
2013-05-18 02:41:48 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?


Clearly you didn't read the editorial from the Daily Northwestern, or didn't read it carefully. Would you require minority applicants to those same criteria of prior experience?
 
2013-05-18 02:41:51 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: Point of order, white males do not need special laws to protect us. We who have raped and pillaged across the world throughout time....


It's been a messy past but whites (and I include women in partnership with men) have created a culture fit for our people with laws and technology and arts that can't be touched by anyone else.
Sub-Saharan Africans had not invented the wheel at the time they were brought over for slavery (And please don't state that the populist but ridiculous theories of Jared Diamond are fact).
Try not taking for granted that European civilization "just happened" to white people. This has to be said once in awhile.
Every people has something to be proud of but I prefer living in my culture.
 
2013-05-18 02:43:00 PM

Nabb1: cameroncrazy1984: Nabb1: Why not? Aren't you pre-judging this person based on skin color and sexual orientation?

No, I'm pre-judging the person based on what he says are his qualifications. What about being a white, heterosexual male with a lesbian sister is a qualification for being president of a diversity group? Does he have prior experience in such groups? Does he have prior leadership experience?

Clearly you didn't read the editorial from the Daily Northwestern, or didn't read it carefully. Would you require minority applicants to those same criteria of prior experience?


Uh, yeah? Why wouldn't I? Generally don't you want people with prior experience in leadership positions? Why don't you?
 
2013-05-18 02:43:10 PM
Can we just admit that the only group that it is ok to be racist towards is 20 something white, heterosexual males, now?
 
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