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2013-05-19 02:20:25 AM

Telos: pheelix: [www.sg-operations.com image 757x375]

What, no Daedalus?  Andromeda in less than two weeks.

For that matter, what, no Andromeda?

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I'd be too busy reprogramming Rommie to be concerned with some stupid race through space.
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2013-05-19 03:55:14 AM

Telos: pheelix: [www.sg-operations.com image 757x375]

What, no Daedalus?  Andromeda in less than two weeks.

For that matter, what, no Andromeda?

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You mean The Andromeda Ascendant.
 
2013-05-19 06:04:47 AM
The AndroAs is one butt-ass ugly boat. Looks like a robot's ribcage thrown in the air.
 
2013-05-19 07:55:55 AM

UNC_Samurai: GRCooper: EvilEgg: Relatively Obscure: Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious

Heart of Gold does not fold space.

It goes through every point of space simultaneously I believe.

That seems improbable ...

As improbable as having been to Hollywood AND Redwood?


What about ht eodds of having been to both Paradise and Me?
 
2013-05-19 08:27:48 AM

macaddict0: godwin5: According to this...
warp speed is Wf3 x c = v.
so warp 9 is 729 times the speed of light or less than 2 min per parsec (3.26 light-years)

Check your math on that.


Yeah, I noticed that.  If it took 2 minutes per parsec, that would mean 1.63 light years per minute.  That would mean that they are travelling at 856,728 times the speed of light, not 729.

macaddict0:
I don't remember exactly how they described the speeds when the Traveler showed up or when Barclay was made all super genius-y and rebuilt the engines.
For the episode with the Traveler, you really can't tell.  On one hand, they're 2.7 million light years away from where they started, so they're in the area of the Andromeda Galaxy, which would mean travelling at an ungodly rate of speed close to Warp 10.  Or they're 1 billion light years away, which implies an even ungodlier rate of speed, even closer to Warp 10.  Or they don't know where the hell they are, which Picard admits.  The TNG Technical Manual says in a footnote that the Enterprise was going at Warp 9.999 something.
When Barclay becomes a super-genius, they don't mention how fast they were going as well, based upon my memory, which might be wrong.  It has to be the Enterprise going super-duper fast and super duper efficient as well, near Warp 10 for more than 12 hours without the fuel being all spent.
 
2013-05-19 09:53:57 AM

I can't get the cap off!: fredklein:

Anything is possible in a universe where you mix up units of distance and time.

/"Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs", my ass.

I've never actually understood why that was supposed to be a statement of time.


Because Han is clearly talking about the ship being fast.

Han Solo: Han Solo. I'm captain of the Millennium Falcon. Chewie here tells me you're lookin' for passage to the Alderaan system?
Obi-Wan: Yes indeed, if it's a fast ship.
Han Solo: Fast ship? You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon?
Obi-Wan: Should I have?
Han Solo: It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?


It makes no sense to say "My ship's fast. I made the Kessel run in less than 12 miles". It makes sense to say "My ship's fast. I made the Kessel run in less than 12 minutes". Thus, Han was using a unit of distance (parsec)as a unit of time.

(And yes, I've heard the argument that people use- that the Kessel run was near a black hole, and thus your route could be shorter if you went closer to the hole, but then your ship would have to be faster, to escape the gravity-, and it sucks.
 
2013-05-19 02:23:09 PM
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2013-05-19 02:59:43 PM

fredklein: I can't get the cap off!: fredklein:

Anything is possible in a universe where you mix up units of distance and time.

/"Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs", my ass.

I've never actually understood why that was supposed to be a statement of time.

Because Han is clearly talking about the ship being fast.

Han Solo: Han Solo. I'm captain of the Millennium Falcon. Chewie here tells me you're lookin' for passage to the Alderaan system?
Obi-Wan: Yes indeed, if it's a fast ship.
Han Solo: Fast ship? You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon?
Obi-Wan: Should I have?
Han Solo: It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. I've outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. She's fast enough for you old man. What's the cargo?

It makes no sense to say "My ship's fast. I made the Kessel run in less than 12 miles". It makes sense to say "My ship's fast. I made the Kessel run in less than 12 minutes". Thus, Han was using a unit of distance (parsec)as a unit of time.

(And yes, I've heard the argument that people use- that the Kessel run was near a black hole, and thus your route could be shorter if you went closer to the hole, but then your ship would have to be faster, to escape the gravity-, and it sucks.


Have you considered more obvious answers like, they're in a galaxy far, far away and maybe they use the word parsec as a unit of time and not distance (e.g. a fraction of a second), or "it's made-up, so get over yourselves?"
 
2013-05-19 03:23:45 PM

pheelix: Telos: pheelix: [www.sg-operations.com image 757x375]

What, no Daedalus?  Andromeda in less than two weeks.

For that matter, what, no Andromeda?

[fc05.deviantart.net image 850x492]

I'd be too busy reprogramming Rommie to be concerned with some stupid race through space.
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Ahh, but the beauty of Rommie, aside from her actual physical beauty, is that she's got three separate selfs!  So Rommie can be racing the ship, while Rommie is vigorously exercising your... *cough* programming.  ;)
 
2013-05-19 06:50:47 PM

EvilEgg: Relatively Obscure: Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious

Heart of Gold does not fold space.

It goes through every point of space simultaneously I believe.


That sounds infinitely improbable
 
2013-05-19 07:42:13 PM

Mega Steve: The Incredible Sexual Egg: What about the Event Horizon?

That's probably not the best way to travel, what with the ship reappearing seven years later and the entire crew dead. Kind of a design flaw


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That was just a test run. It gets better
 
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