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2013-05-18 01:15:20 AM
Mmmm. Kaylee....
 
2013-05-18 01:22:49 AM
That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?
 
2013-05-18 02:11:02 AM

BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?


TArdis can go anywhere/anytime instantaniously
Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious
Enterprise warp 9 is lightspeed x10^8  very very fast
Alumninum Falcon and other SW ships go everywhere in road trip time, so also very very fast
Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days
Lost in space took almost 6 years
Serenity estimates decades
The Voyager probe would take thousands of years
 
2013-05-18 05:39:01 AM

Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious


Heart of Gold does not fold space.
 
2013-05-18 06:54:34 AM

Dave and the Mission: BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?

TArdis can go anywhere/anytime instantaniously
Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious
Enterprise warp 9 is lightspeed x10^8  very very fast
Alumninum Falcon and other SW ships go everywhere in road trip time, so also very very fast
Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days
Lost in space took almost 6 years
Serenity estimates decades
The Voyager probe would take thousands of years


Wait...who's "they"? What the hell is an "Aluminum Falcon"?
 
2013-05-18 07:07:09 AM
Technically, the TARDIS doesn't "go" anywhere since it exists in all points in space and time simultaneously.
 
2013-05-18 07:45:12 AM

Relatively Obscure: Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious

Heart of Gold does not fold space.


It goes through every point of space simultaneously I believe.
 
2013-05-18 08:50:08 AM
PLANET EXPRESS

fark YEAH
 
2013-05-18 09:19:24 AM
g-ecx.images-amazon.com

Bloater Drive, biatches.
 
2013-05-18 09:24:26 AM
Easy answer to this one; Voyager. It is a real object and not a plot device.
 
2013-05-18 09:28:42 AM

NathanAllen: Easy answer to this one; Voyager. It is a real object and not a plot device.


I agree.

USS Voyager is a bad ass ship. Look how fast it went to the delta quadrant!
 
2013-05-18 09:30:18 AM

cman: NathanAllen: Easy answer to this one; Voyager. It is a real object and not a plot device.

I agree.

USS Voyager is a bad ass ship. Look how fast it went to the delta quadrant!


Yah but it kept breaking down on the way back at such regular intervals you can't help but suspect it was abused as a plot device.
 
2013-05-18 09:33:49 AM

Dave and the Mission: Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days


Nerd Qubble:  The Galactica could make the jump to Alpha Centauri in seconds, the trip to the galactic center would take days according to this chart.  The author, however, made some broad assumptions not backed up in the actual show.  The RTFF was in deep space for three years, not counting time on New Caprica,  even with extensive detours for fuel, food, fighting and stopping at the gas station to ask for directions, they could traverse the entire galaxy in all directions hundreds of times.

Nerd Digression:   I suspect the limitations on the Galactica's jumps were more a question of ability to navigate rather than limitations on distance.  Plotting a jump requires specific coordinates and the Colonial systems simply lacked the ability to do this quickly and over great distances the further out into space they traveled from a known point.  (Imagine trying to walk from point to point on a dark, cloudy night with no Moon or stars to navigate, using a compass means you know you are going somewhere in the right direction but not where or how far.  Lacking frame of reference you move very slowly.)  The Cylons, with  their improved AI and sensors could plot longer jumps more accurately, thus increasing their Jump range over Colonial systems.  Neither could make a jump from one side of the Galaxy to the other because they can't plot it with enough accuracy.
 
2013-05-18 09:36:58 AM
images.persephonemagazine.com
 
2013-05-18 09:38:01 AM

Dave and the Mission: Alumninum Falcon


www.aerojockey.com
 
2013-05-18 09:49:16 AM

Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]

Bloater Drive, biatches.


When I grow up, I want to be a fuse puller!
 
2013-05-18 09:51:10 AM

Spad31: Dave and the Mission: BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?

TArdis can go anywhere/anytime instantaniously
Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious
Enterprise warp 9 is lightspeed x10^8  very very fast
Alumninum Falcon and other SW ships go everywhere in road trip time, so also very very fast
Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days
Lost in space took almost 6 years
Serenity estimates decades
The Voyager probe would take thousands of years

Wait...who's "they"? What the hell is an "Aluminum Falcon"?


Robot chicken will always be king of the starwars specials after that one, it was glorious, all of it.
 
2013-05-18 09:55:36 AM
1960s: "Mr. Sulu, ahead warp factor 6, engage."

1990s: "Mr. Crusher, make it so."

2000s: "Jump!"
 
2013-05-18 09:56:33 AM
If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?
 
2013-05-18 09:56:45 AM

Spad31: Dave and the Mission: BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?

TArdis can go anywhere/anytime instantaniously
Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious
Enterprise warp 9 is lightspeed x10^8  very very fast
Alumninum Falcon and other SW ships go everywhere in road trip time, so also very very fast
Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days
Lost in space took almost 6 years
Serenity estimates decades
The Voyager probe would take thousands of years

Wait...who's "they"? What the hell is an "Aluminum Falcon"?


Wait a sec, you've been flying around for two weeks trying to get a signal?... Oh, you must smell like... feet wrapped in leathery, burnt bacon...
 
2013-05-18 09:57:16 AM

Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]


What the hell is wrong with his left hand? It's turned around backwards...
 
2013-05-18 10:01:57 AM

0Icky0: If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?


In mobile power mode the the screen savers kick in early.
 
2013-05-18 10:07:14 AM

Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]

Bloater Drive, biatches.


SuperSeriousMan: Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]

What the hell is wrong with his left hand? It's turned around backwards...


You do need to read the book!
 
2013-05-18 10:08:15 AM
What about the Event Horizon?
 
2013-05-18 10:08:52 AM

SuperSeriousMan: Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]

What the hell is wrong with his left hand?


d.gr-assets.com

I'm sure I have no idea what you mean.
 
2013-05-18 10:13:11 AM

Darkeldar: Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]

Bloater Drive, biatches.

SuperSeriousMan: Inigo: [g-ecx.images-amazon.com image 305x500]

What the hell is wrong with his left hand? It's turned around backwards...

You do need to read the book!



What's this? Bowb your buddy day?
 
2013-05-18 10:14:55 AM
Gonna get my popcorn for this one, expecting a Star Wars vs. Star Trek thread, especially since TFA shows Star Wars hypedrive being so much faster than warp.

/Which it is
 
2013-05-18 10:22:04 AM

The Incredible Sexual Egg: What about the Event Horizon?


Hell wasn't an option on the chart.
 
2013-05-18 10:22:08 AM

0Icky0: If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?


Because it wouldn't be as cool if Picard yells 'Warp 10! Get us out of here NOW!' and nothing changed out the window.

Actually, since they are traveling close to or over the speed of light, all of the light they are able to see will form a circle directly in front of their direction of travel, then collapse into a pin point of light that may contain a view of all the light in the universe.  In this majestic view, we might be able to gaze into eternity, across streams of time, and into their showers to see what they are doing right now.
 
2013-05-18 10:25:12 AM

The Incredible Sexual Egg: What about the Event Horizon?


That's probably not the best way to travel, what with the ship reappearing seven years later and the entire crew dead. Kind of a design flaw
 
2013-05-18 10:27:24 AM

child_god: 0Icky0: If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?

Because it wouldn't be as cool if Picard yells 'Warp 10! Get us out of here NOW!' and nothing changed out the window.

Actually, since they are traveling close to or over the speed of light, all of the light they are able to see will form a circle directly in front of their direction of travel, then collapse into a pin point of light that may contain a view of all the light in the universe.  In this majestic view, we might be able to gaze into eternity, across streams of time, and into their showers to see what they are doing right now.


So THAT'S what Space Lincoln is up to out there....
img.trekmovie.com
 
2013-05-18 10:38:59 AM
...Great. Now I want to know how long it would take Space Lincoln to get to Alpha Centauri...
 
2013-05-18 10:44:16 AM
www.sg-operations.com

What, no Daedalus?  Andromeda in less than two weeks.
 
2013-05-18 11:02:58 AM

0Icky0: If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?


You're right, logically it can't be the ship actually passing by stars that fast. It must be a distortion of light as viewed by an observer inside a warp bubble, sort of like a gravitational lensing effect. Otherwise the stars would not move visibly.

A more realistic way to show what the ship was doing would have been to photograph the ship brightly lit, with no stars around it, when it's near a planetary system, since the brightness of the nearby star would wash out any background stars, while in interstellar space, there would be no light except the stars and light coming from the ship.
 
2013-05-18 11:05:02 AM

Spad31: Dave and the Mission: BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?

TArdis can go anywhere/anytime instantaniously
Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious
Enterprise warp 9 is lightspeed x10^8  very very fast
Alumninum Falcon and other SW ships go everywhere in road trip time, so also very very fast
Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days
Lost in space took almost 6 years
Serenity estimates decades
The Voyager probe would take thousands of years

Wait...who's "they"? What the hell is an "Aluminum Falcon"?


It's parked next to the Starship Secondprize.
 
2013-05-18 11:13:51 AM

BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?


The TARDiS. It can get anywhere before it leaves.
 
2013-05-18 11:14:55 AM
But can any of them travel at plaid?
 
2013-05-18 11:18:59 AM
I get "Lost in Space" here. and I always have to wonder how it is that a simple accident could put them in ANOTHER GALAXY while they still live.
 
2013-05-18 11:23:40 AM

RyansPrivates: Gonna get my popcorn for this one, expecting a Star Wars vs. Star Trek thread, especially since TFA shows Star Wars hypedrive being so much faster than warp.

/Which it is


Anything is possible in a universe where you mix up units of distance and time.

/"Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs", my ass.
 
2013-05-18 11:25:56 AM

Relatively Obscure: Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious

Heart of Gold does not fold space.


It does if you know the probability of folding space. :-)
 
2013-05-18 11:29:37 AM

fredklein: RyansPrivates: Gonna get my popcorn for this one, expecting a Star Wars vs. Star Trek thread, especially since TFA shows Star Wars hypedrive being so much faster than warp.

/Which it is

Anything is possible in a universe where you mix up units of distance and time.

/"Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs", my ass.


Yeah, pretty much. I always figured the statement about "point five past light speed" meant that the Falcon's Vmax = 1.5c. But Star Wars abuses terminology and units so badly (insert "Leia can abuse my unit all day long" joke here) that they're meaningless for figuring out real capabilities.
 
2013-05-18 12:00:57 PM

Dave and the Mission: BarkingUnicorn: That's an impressive bit of nerdy analysis.

So, which is the fastest ship?

TArdis can go anywhere/anytime instantaniously
Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious
Enterprise warp 9 is lightspeed x10^8  very very fast
Alumninum Falcon and other SW ships go everywhere in road trip time, so also very very fast vary according to the plot.
Galactica can get to Alpha Centauri in six days
Lost in space took almost 6 years
Serenity estimates decades
The Voyager probe would take thousands of years


FTFY
 
2013-05-18 12:05:30 PM

Mentat: Technically, the TARDIS doesn't "go" anywhere since it exists in all points in space and time simultaneously.


Thats going to present a problem for the doctor....

www.toplessrobot.com
 
2013-05-18 12:08:08 PM

0Icky0: If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?


I've always fanwanked that they're not stars, but some visual artifact of individual photons, warp field distortion, yadda yadda...Real answer is, of course, "it looks cool".
 
2013-05-18 12:09:05 PM

0Icky0: If it takes days for the Enterprise to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest system to ours, why do we see stars streaming past in the view screen any time they kick up into warp?


Because seeing a static star field is pretty boring.  You want them to remove all the sound too?

/JJ Trek is a bit more realistic, with a tunnel of light due to the warping of space-time.
 
2013-05-18 12:13:54 PM

Inigo: Bloater Drive, biatches.


Ha, it warms the cockles of my old nerd heart to see this reference. Awesome.

/still prefer the Stainless Steel Rat and Deathword series.
 
2013-05-18 12:15:55 PM

EvilEgg: Relatively Obscure: Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious

Heart of Gold does not fold space.

It goes through every point of space simultaneously I believe.


That seems improbable ...
 
2013-05-18 12:19:06 PM

GRCooper: EvilEgg: Relatively Obscure: Dave and the Mission: Planet Express ship and Heart of Gold (and the Dune ships) fold space, so almost instantanious

Heart of Gold does not fold space.

It goes through every point of space simultaneously I believe.

That seems improbable ...


As improbable as having been to Hollywood AND Redwood?
 
2013-05-18 12:27:01 PM

aerojockey: Dave and the Mission: Alumninum Falcon


I thought nothing was obscure on Fark.
 
2013-05-18 12:30:09 PM
That writer sucked balls.

"I'm going to ignore all evidence that the Enterprise is fast because tee-hee, Star Wars!"

"I'm going to ignore direct evidence and quotes that the Falcon is a slow turd, because tee-hee, Star Wars!"
 
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