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2013-05-17 09:12:25 PM  
FTFA: Many in China say they are treated like second-class citizens when they travel abroad and local media is full of stories of Chinese tourists who have been robbed, our correspondent adds.

Isn't that cute? They see themselves as victims. They really are becoming just like us.

/of course I guess that makes sense
//it's our money and our jobs we're sending over there that are giving them their newfound wealth
 
2013-05-17 09:32:03 PM  
Hey Big Ben, George Washington says KISS MY ASS!  USA!  USA!  USA!
 
2013-05-17 09:53:18 PM  
This has never been more appropriate:


i.qkme.me
 
2013-05-17 09:53:55 PM  
This has never been more appropriate: i.qkme.me
 
2013-05-17 09:54:59 PM  

Apos: This has never been more appropriate: [i.qkme.me image 579x300]


Oops....Double post. Take it away, mods!
 
2013-05-17 09:58:02 PM  

Apos: Apos: This has never been more appropriate: [i.qkme.me image 579x300]

Oops....Double post. Take it away, mods!


No, let them stay...like all those multiples of Chinese people in the world.
 
2013-05-17 10:02:43 PM  
ftfa
"Wang Yang, one of China's four vice-prime ministers "
"Mr. Wang"
"Mr. Wang"
"Mr. Wang"
"Mr. Wang"

After some google-fu I learned that in eastern name ordering, the family name precedes the given name. I can't believe I didn't know this until now.

/And here I just thought they liked saying Wang.
 
2013-05-17 10:45:42 PM  
Wang Yang. That's a made up name, right?
 
2013-05-17 11:40:14 PM  
Among problems he singled out were talking loudly in public and spitting.

It's not the talking loudly, it's the spitting.  I lived in Hong Kong for a few years and spent a lot of time on the mainland, and the Chinese spit like it's bad luck to swallow your saliva.  It definitely took some getting used to.

They'd also fart audibly without excusing themselves.  I think that was more a native Cantonese cultural trait, but riding a bus was a real trip in every sense of the word.  You could be sitting next to a semi-attractive 30-something professional woman and she'd shiat her pants right next to you with absolutely no acknowledgement whatsoever that the fermented cabbage-and-fish smell killing everyone else on the bus came from her.  They also let their children pee everywhere.  Six year old kid has to take a leak?  Why not do it on the sidewalk next to the outdoor cafe?
 
2013-05-17 11:51:59 PM  
I don't know what's worse, rude tourists or visitors with complete apathy and even disdain for their surroundings.
The Chinese people I know in America (all graduate students) have zero desire to have any sort of cultural experience while living here. My Chinese friend and his wife  haven't ventured outside a two-block radius of their apartment in three years of grad school. When they socialize, it's only with other Chinese people; when they eat, it's only at Chinese restaurants; when they shop, it's only at the Asian grocery store.They watch only Chinese tv online and when they do, it's Chinese spin-offs of European or American shows (see Voice of China). I did come out with us to see a movie once; it was Life of Pi and he saw it only because it had a Chinese director.

Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over
 
2013-05-18 12:08:33 AM  

insano: I don't know what's worse, rude tourists or visitors with complete apathy and even disdain for their surroundings.
The Chinese people I know in America (all graduate students) have zero desire to have any sort of cultural experience while living here. My Chinese friend and his wife  haven't ventured outside a two-block radius of their apartment in three years of grad school. When they socialize, it's only with other Chinese people; when they eat, it's only at Chinese restaurants; when they shop, it's only at the Asian grocery store.They watch only Chinese tv online and when they do, it's Chinese spin-offs of European or American shows (see Voice of China). I did come out with us to see a movie once; it was Life of Pi and he saw it only because it had a Chinese director.

Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over


Same here in Austin, TX. Asians cluster together. I don't have any problem with that though as they do not cause problems, have very good restaurants, and are more polite than your average person. Carry on!
 
2013-05-18 12:10:54 AM  

shanrick: Wang Yang. That's a made up name, right?


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/He has a wife you know
 
2013-05-18 12:11:32 AM  
Don't forget cutting in line as well as something I have noticed from Chinese tourists.  There is no such thing as a line to many Chinese tourists and they will simply ignore everyone waiting to get to what they want.
 
2013-05-18 12:13:28 AM  
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2013-05-18 12:14:07 AM  

insano: Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over


I think you accidentally ended your CSB a little too abruptly.

Go on...
 
2013-05-18 12:14:34 AM  

bmihura: insano: I don't know what's worse, rude tourists or visitors with complete apathy and even disdain for their surroundings.
The Chinese people I know in America (all graduate students) have zero desire to have any sort of cultural experience while living here. My Chinese friend and his wife  haven't ventured outside a two-block radius of their apartment in three years of grad school. When they socialize, it's only with other Chinese people; when they eat, it's only at Chinese restaurants; when they shop, it's only at the Asian grocery store.They watch only Chinese tv online and when they do, it's Chinese spin-offs of European or American shows (see Voice of China). I did come out with us to see a movie once; it was Life of Pi and he saw it only because it had a Chinese director.

Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over

Same here in Austin, TX. Asians cluster together. I don't have any problem with that though as they do not cause problems, have very good restaurants, and are more polite than your average person. Carry on!



Yea, its probably typical of 1st generation immigrants -- stick together when possible.  Its harmless enough and -- for those who stay -- will pass in successive generations.  In the mean time it means that some good restaurants will spring up to cater to their expat communities.
 
2013-05-18 12:16:20 AM  
Newsflash:

Not everybody likes tourists, for a variety of reasons.
 
2013-05-18 12:18:14 AM  

Daedalus27: Don't forget cutting in line as well as something I have noticed from Chinese tourists.  There is no such thing as a line to many Chinese tourists and they will simply ignore everyone waiting to get to what they want.


My own personal hell would be having to board a 747 to China over and over and over and over...

Its like the Southwest cattle-call but with twice as many people who are many times more aggressively pushy.  On the plus side, its the only place outside a hockey rink where its socially acceptable to body check someone, so there is that (and when in Rome...).
 
2013-05-18 12:19:42 AM  
Tip #1457: Going to a Petsmart and asking the workers there that you'll "have a little of this, and a little of that one over there" is not a good idea.
 
2013-05-18 12:19:53 AM  
did they start putting buffalo sauce on the chickity china Chinese chicken wings?
 
2013-05-18 12:23:28 AM  
When I was travelling it always seemed like Australians were the most obnoxious tourists. Of course that's just anecdotal.
 
2013-05-18 12:24:05 AM  
If they dont wish to be treated as second-class citizens perhaps they shouldnt be so rude and actually tip?
 
2013-05-18 12:25:38 AM  

fusillade762: When I was travelling it always seemed like Australians were the most obnoxious tourists. Of course that's just anecdotal.


Sorry, the correct answer is Germans.

After that, its neck and neck between Australians and Americans.
 
2013-05-18 12:27:06 AM  
It's interesting this is from the BBC since the British surpassed Americans as the worst tourists years ago.
 
2013-05-18 12:35:43 AM  
"As (we) get richer, our behavior gets worse."

How true it seems.
 
2013-05-18 12:36:27 AM  

insano: I don't know what's worse, rude tourists or visitors with complete apathy and even disdain for their surroundings.
The Chinese people I know in America (all graduate students) have zero desire to have any sort of cultural experience while living here. My Chinese friend and his wife  haven't ventured outside a two-block radius of their apartment in three years of grad school. When they socialize, it's only with other Chinese people; when they eat, it's only at Chinese restaurants; when they shop, it's only at the Asian grocery store.They watch only Chinese tv online and when they do, it's Chinese spin-offs of European or American shows (see Voice of China). I did come out with us to see a movie once; it was Life of Pi and he saw it only because it had a Chinese director.

Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over


not growing up in a cultural melting pot is much different than growing up where the bulk of the population are damn near clones. same holiday, same tradition, blah blah. many cultures do the 'birds of a feather flock together' trip when they migrate to 'merica. and while a few lucky pasty white boys may get a taste of imported nookie the bulk of those birds that marry do so within their own cultural confines. i just wish they'd stop the pee pee in our Coke.
 
2013-05-18 12:36:56 AM  
"Mr Wang's criticism has brought a mixed response on Weibo, China's version of Twitter"

I didn't even know Chinese were into  Japanese culture/anime/manga


/what do you mean weibo isn't an alternate spelling of weeaboo?
 
2013-05-18 12:37:04 AM  

Daedalus27: Don't forget cutting in line as well as something I have noticed from Chinese tourists.  There is no such thing as a line to many Chinese tourists and they will simply ignore everyone waiting to get to what they want.


Yeah...Chinese cuts.  I remember those.
 
2013-05-18 12:37:08 AM  
I don't get how anyone would enjoy travelling in large groups like that. Planning a trip and exploring are the best parts.
 
2013-05-18 12:38:32 AM  

insano: I don't know what's worse, rude tourists or visitors with complete apathy and even disdain for their surroundings.
The Chinese people I know in America (all graduate students) have zero desire to have any sort of cultural experience while living here. My Chinese friend and his wife  haven't ventured outside a two-block radius of their apartment in three years of grad school. When they socialize, it's only with other Chinese people; when they eat, it's only at Chinese restaurants; when they shop, it's only at the Asian grocery store.They watch only Chinese tv online and when they do, it's Chinese spin-offs of European or American shows (see Voice of China). I did come out with us to see a movie once; it was Life of Pi and he saw it only because it had a Chinese director.

Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over


The mother of a chinese ex-girlfriend I had has been living, and working, in suburban American for 30 years and she doesn't speak one word of English.  30. Farking. Years.  That is dedication.
 
2013-05-18 12:39:40 AM  
What really bugs the hell out of me is when they decide to play joke and I have to shell out for a replacement cola.
 
2013-05-18 12:41:31 AM  

jshine: Yea, its probably typical of 1st generation immigrants -- stick together when possible.  Its harmless enough and -- for those who stay -- will pass in successive generations.  In the mean time it means that some good restaurants will spring up to cater to their expat communities.


I don't know. There's something to be said about the benefits of experiencing other ways of life than your own. Creating closed-off pockets of only Chinese people and Chinese culture says that they don't care about understanding people other than themselves. I find that fairly rude in itself.

The saying isn't "When in Rome, do as the Chinese have always done and don't associate with the Romans."
 
2013-05-18 12:44:10 AM  

jshine: bmihura: insano: I don't know what's worse, rude tourists or visitors with complete apathy and even disdain for their surroundings.
The Chinese people I know in America (all graduate students) have zero desire to have any sort of cultural experience while living here. My Chinese friend and his wife  haven't ventured outside a two-block radius of their apartment in three years of grad school. When they socialize, it's only with other Chinese people; when they eat, it's only at Chinese restaurants; when they shop, it's only at the Asian grocery store.They watch only Chinese tv online and when they do, it's Chinese spin-offs of European or American shows (see Voice of China). I did come out with us to see a movie once; it was Life of Pi and he saw it only because it had a Chinese director.

Chicks from Hong Kong are freaks in bed though, so they've got that going for them, which is nice.

/CSB over

Same here in Austin, TX. Asians cluster together. I don't have any problem with that though as they do not cause problems, have very good restaurants, and are more polite than your average person. Carry on!


Yea, its probably typical of 1st generation immigrants -- stick together when possible.  Its harmless enough and -- for those who stay -- will pass in successive generations.  In the mean time it means that some good restaurants will spring up to cater to their expat communities.


I am long past being a college student, but I still pick up one of the University of Wisconsin student newspapers at the coffeeshop when available.  They ran an article a month or two ago regarding the insularity of the Asian student population.  From what I remember, some would like to venture out and interact more with other cultural groups, but there is distinct peer and familial pressure not to do so.  Most of these students are here just to go back home with a degree, not to expand their perspectives, let alone experience all that (debauchery) Madtown has to offer.
 
2013-05-18 12:47:41 AM  
I watched Connie Chung on the TV once.
 
2013-05-18 12:50:09 AM  
I read the whole page with a chinese accent in my head.
 
2013-05-18 12:50:24 AM  

Lsherm: Among problems he singled out were talking loudly in public and spitting.

It's not the talking loudly, it's the spitting.  I lived in Hong Kong for a few years and spent a lot of time on the mainland, and the Chinese spit like it's bad luck to swallow your saliva.  It definitely took some getting used to.


It's not about saliva, in my experience.  My mother-in-law will hawk-and-spit in the shower.  No, that should be hawk, hawk, hawk and spit.  It's about getting phlem out - sharing it with everyone else in the process.  It may vary per region, but my wife is from Beijing and that city has nasty air.

Daedalus27: Don't forget cutting in line as well as something I have noticed from Chinese tourists.  There is no such thing as a line to many Chinese tourists and they will simply ignore everyone waiting to get to what they want.


Funny.  In 1999 my obviously pregnant wife and I were leaving Beijing.  For whatever reason, I was elsewhere briefly while my wife got in line for the boarding area.  When I went to join her, some European looking fellow behind her took offense, figuring I was cutting in line, and shoved my shoulder gently.  I studiously ignored him and then held my wife's hand.  Later near our gate, he passed by and said a subdued "sorry", which I ignored.

Come to think of it, I was probably the rudest party.  In that last encounter, I should have said something like "no problem, man."
 
2013-05-18 12:51:39 AM  
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"Now you're a guest here, Wang, so whatever you do dont mention that you're Jewish.

/ all right
// ok
 
2013-05-18 12:51:42 AM  

"Many in China say they are treated like second-class citizens when they travel abroad and local media is full of stories of Chinese tourists who have been robbed, our correspondent adds."


About that. Maybe they should go over to Tripadvisor to read how all tourists are robbed and treated like second-class citizens. Go to any restaurant in the tourist areas of Prague and they will rip you off every which way they can think of, doesn't matter where you're from. And didn't all the workers in Paris' Louvre walk off the job because pickpocketing was so bad there even the workers were getting robbed? I'm not sure what the Chinese tourists want or expect, streets paved in spit?

 
2013-05-18 12:57:02 AM  
fark, when I worked at a theme park whose name rhymes with "flea hurled", the behavior of the Brazilian tourists was so bad that they were informed they would be disinvited unless they adhered more closely to American cultural standards when they were here.
 
2013-05-18 01:02:59 AM  

buckler: fark, when I worked at a theme park whose name rhymes with "flea hurled", the behavior of the Brazilian tourists was so bad that they were informed they would be disinvited unless they adhered more closely to American cultural standards when they were here.


That's a lot of tourists
 
2013-05-18 01:07:54 AM  

RatOmeter: It's not about saliva, in my experience.  My mother-in-law will hawk-and-spit in the shower.  No, that should be hawk, hawk, hawk and spit.  It's about getting phlem out - sharing it with everyone else in the process.  It may vary per region, but my wife is from Beijing and that city has nasty air.


Oh, I took to wearing the air mask when I was in Beijing:

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Air quality is piss poor everywhere in China.  One problem is that the spitting becomes a habit, and people will do it even if they don't have to.  The other problem is that spitting is more culturally accepted by the Chinese than it is in the rest of the world.
 
2013-05-18 01:24:46 AM  

cmb53208: If they dont wish to be treated as second-class citizens perhaps they shouldnt be so rude and actually tip?


i3.kym-cdn.com media.tumblr.com

/just to be safe
 
2013-05-18 01:35:52 AM  
Did somebody just say "weeaboo?"
 
2013-05-18 01:40:19 AM  

Lsherm: Among problems he singled out were talking loudly in public and spitting.

It's not the talking loudly, it's the spitting.  I lived in Hong Kong for a few years and spent a lot of time on the mainland, and the Chinese spit like it's bad luck to swallow your saliva.  It definitely took some getting used to.

They'd also fart audibly without excusing themselves.  I think that was more a native Cantonese cultural trait, but riding a bus was a real trip in every sense of the word.  You could be sitting next to a semi-attractive 30-something professional woman and she'd shiat her pants right next to you with absolutely no acknowledgement whatsoever that the fermented cabbage-and-fish smell killing everyone else on the bus came from her.  They also let their children pee everywhere.  Six year old kid has to take a leak?  Why not do it on the sidewalk next to the outdoor cafe?


That's strange to me, because that's exactly my impression of the Chinese as well.

However, recently there was a story in a Danish newspapers about a busfull of Danes, that for some reason where in China, who had their bus stop on the highway, in dense traffic, and urinated. All of them at once, they drunk of course.

This caused a scandal in China, and I wondered why. Was it because you're supposed your pants discreetly? I can see how perhaps the scene was somewhat frightening to the Chinese, with 30+ drunk Danes whipping their penis, but still...
 
2013-05-18 01:49:34 AM  
I have no problem with most Chinese cultural mores. I lived with a Chinese family for 6 months and got used to a lot of the culture. But they need to learn how to get in a farking line.

That shiat is rude and unacceptable.
 
2013-05-18 01:50:10 AM  
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Your move, China.
 
2013-05-18 01:50:37 AM  

illannoyin: shanrick: Wang Yang. That's a made up name, right?



/He has a wife you know


Good old fark. Not a day goes by without a monty python reference.
 
2013-05-18 01:52:52 AM  
Spawn73:   However, recently there was a story in a Danish newspapers about a busfull of Danes, that for some reason where in China, who had their bus stop on the highway, in dense traffic, and urinated. All of them at once, they drunk of course.

This caused a scandal in China, and I wondered why. Was it because you're supposed your pants discreetly? I can see how perhaps the scene was somewhat frightening to the Chinese, with 30+ drunk Danes whipping their penis, but still...


Really?  You wonder why?  It was in the middle of a busy freeway system with several foreigners not giving a damn about pissing in public in front of everyone.  Its not their country, so I dunno - sort of a f--k you gesture, if you ask me.

I doubt such a gesture would go over to well on a US highway either.
 
2013-05-18 01:59:49 AM  

MurphyMurphy: ftfa
"Wang Yang, one of China's four vice-prime ministers "
"Mr. Wang"
"Mr. Wang"
"Mr. Wang"
"Mr. Wang"

After some google-fu I learned that in eastern name ordering, the family name precedes the given name. I can't believe I didn't know this until now.

/And here I just thought they liked saying Wang.


Yea, the first couple of weeks I worked at my (primarily) Chinese company, that part wasn't easy to remember. It works both ways though. As often as I mistakenly called someone by their surname, they mistakenly called me by my last name. Nobody seems to mind though. And in Mandarin when you use "mister", the mister goes after the surname: name  先生
 
2013-05-18 02:05:08 AM  
Everybody Wang Chung tonight ;)

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