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(The Sun)   Man who has tattoos scrawled all over his face can't understand why it's so hard to find a job. The Sun is there...on the back of his head   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 254
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2013-05-17 08:29:21 PM
That's a rough farking 40.
 
2013-05-17 08:33:30 PM

Diogenes: Holy crap.  I suddenly feel much better about being 43.  Tattoos or not, that guy looks like hell.


No kidding. That's a hard-looking 40 years. The Just for Men neckbeard isn't helping either.
 
2013-05-17 08:45:44 PM

offmymeds: If he really wants a job as bad as he says he does, he'd lose the beard, let his hair grow out and somehow cover up that "Buddhist" tat on his forehead. That and put on some pounds.


Yes, it may be the "meth is a hell of a drug" look that's really causing him problems...
 
2013-05-17 08:47:03 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2013-05-17 08:57:28 PM

colon_pow: i have a tattoo of a 12" penis on my penis.


How many times does it go around?
 
2013-05-17 09:01:10 PM

LiberalEastCoastElitist: Oh, excellent. I was hoping I could get some advice on a tattoo idea. So the middle would be a redneck missing a tooth drinking a Bud light in a monstertruck jumping over flames. Behind that would be a waving American flag. Behind that would be a bald eagle with a knife in its beak. Under all this would be a naked colonial woman and a naked Indian woman posing suggestively with waving fields of corn, wheat and soy in the background. Between the woman would be a crossed musket and M16. For accent pieces there would be baseballs, apple pie, etc. The location would be the tramp stamp area. The point of the tattoo would be to go into explicit detail describing its features so someone would call me out, then I would be able to shock the hell out of them. The added bonus would it would only get more inappropriate with age.


I don't know about a tattoo, but that would make a pretty awesome mural on the side of a van.
 
2013-05-17 09:01:27 PM
bad decision makers make for bad employees. I wouldn't hire him either.
 
2013-05-17 09:02:13 PM

Lord Dimwit: In other words, I'm perfectly happy to have someone break the rules of convention


But you accept military tats?

I'm perfectly happy be a vegetarian, as long as I can still eat meat.
 
2013-05-17 09:05:09 PM
Sucks for him, but in the end, reality is reality.  People are stupid and judgemental.  There are literally a myriad of jobs where his appearance shouldn't matter one iota -- at the end of the day, all a potential employer should be concerned about is his job performance.  But that's not the world we live in, ridiculous as it is.  I really feel for the guy.  Personally I have no tats, and no desire for one, but that shouldn't matter.  PERIOD.  Stop being ignorant and judgemental pricks.
 
2013-05-17 09:05:37 PM

Lord Farkwad: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [i40.tinypic.com image 620x930]

I don't see the problem.

First thing I thought of when I saw that loser.
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Are you implying that Manson or the guy from TFA is a loser? Both? Different strokes for different folks and all that, but Manson was kind of living it up before his arrest.
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He was essentially living a rock star lifestyle without even having to be a rock star. YMMV (Mine does: sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll are cool, but the whole groupie thing is a little superficial and unromantic to me. Still, I do envy Manson a little because I've got the megahots for Squeaky Fromme.) but I wouldn't necessarily call someone living a lifestyle that many people dream about a loser.
 
2013-05-17 09:14:10 PM
Why are people with visible tattoos being discriminated against for job positions anyway? Do people still believe that tattoos are just for criminals? When did tattoos become such a big professional no-no anyway?

I don't have any tattoos because I don't like having anything permanent on me, but I still don't really understand the negative views about people with tattoos. Not everyone with tattoos are dumb or criminals automatically.
 
2013-05-17 09:17:24 PM

kittymewmewmew: inner ted: tjsands1118: inner ted: EvilEgg: scottydoesntknow: Maybe she should've looked at this handy chart before choosing that location:

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Call in the dogs and put out the fire.  We're done here.

are we really?

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disagrees

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bet he disagrees as well

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ya, he probably skates on his taxes too

/stupid stereotypes are stupid

Yes, because everyone can become a celebrate/athlete, so we should all do the stupid shiat they do. In no way could a few people be exceptions to social norms, and Dennis Rodman could get a job at any bank, legal practice, or investment firm.
/Stupid example is stupid,

awesome

this is why i love fark

if you don't supply references or links to your arguments: you are a troll

if you do supply references or links to your arguments: well ya, except for that. but it doesn't count cause i didn't really consider it before i posted my stupid opinion.

precious bunch aren't you?

/freaking lulz

You sound angry.
Need a hug?


But, but...its everyone else that's freaking out.

/inner ted suffers from classic projection
/and he obviously has a tat somewhere that can't be hidden by a shirt or pants
 
2013-05-17 09:22:55 PM

Satosuke: [25.media.tumblr.com image 450x320]

/Doesn't really count but still amuses me.


That's hilarious. What in the hell is that from?
 
2013-05-17 09:35:59 PM

scottydoesntknow: Maybe she should've looked at this handy chart before choosing that location:

 [lovelivegrow.com image 610x629]



Done in one
 
2013-05-17 09:39:12 PM

doglover: Lord Dimwit: In other words, I'm perfectly happy to have someone break the rules of convention

But you accept military tats?

I'm perfectly happy be a vegetarian, as long as I can still eat meat.


They may be somewhat conventional, but they at least tell a story about your life. They're about you.

This is in contrast with a random dragon tattoo or some word written in Chinese that tells me nothing about you, except that you are almost certainly neither a dragon nor Chinese.
 
2013-05-17 09:50:08 PM
My complete lack of tattoos is my own rebellious expression of my individuality.
 
2013-05-17 09:50:10 PM
Personally, if it were a choice between a face tattoo or a suit and tie, I'd probably just starve to death. Both seem like some silly chit and out of character for me. Different strokes I guess...

I'd not enjoy basing my decisions of adornment on how someone else feels about it.
Fortunately, I've never had to apply for a job.
Work for yourself FTW.
 
2013-05-17 09:59:47 PM
We're not getting into what sort of jobs he's been looking for. His appearance would fit in at some of my weirder bookstores, indie bars, drug dens.

Or maybe he should just go for cult leader. He's got the unusual appearance to separate himself down.
 
2013-05-17 10:00:43 PM

Candy Colored Clown: kittymewmewmew: inner ted: tjsands1118: inner ted: EvilEgg: scottydoesntknow: Maybe she should've looked at this handy chart before choosing that location:

 [lovelivegrow.com image 610x629]

Call in the dogs and put out the fire.  We're done here.

are we really?

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 243x208]
disagrees

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 255x197]
bet he disagrees as well

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 445x550]
ya, he probably skates on his taxes too

/stupid stereotypes are stupid

Yes, because everyone can become a celebrate/athlete, so we should all do the stupid shiat they do. In no way could a few people be exceptions to social norms, and Dennis Rodman could get a job at any bank, legal practice, or investment firm.
/Stupid example is stupid,

awesome

this is why i love fark

if you don't supply references or links to your arguments: you are a troll

if you do supply references or links to your arguments: well ya, except for that. but it doesn't count cause i didn't really consider it before i posted my stupid opinion.

precious bunch aren't you?

/freaking lulz

You sound angry.
Need a hug?

But, but...its everyone else that's freaking out.

/inner ted suffers from classic projection
/and he obviously has a tat somewhere that can't be hidden by a shirt or pants


Your fark handle made me think of cotton candy.
 
2013-05-17 10:15:20 PM

Bonkthat_Again: I have gotten crap for not having a tattoo. I was at a friend's bachelor party and his brother asked, "What do you have against tattoos?" My jaw dropped. Wha? "Uh, nothing." To which he responds, "Then why don't you have any?

I basically told him I don't have a specific symbol or picture that can define me, as i feel i'm constantly evolving. I neglected to mention that I'd probably have a boil or cyst ruin it for me at some point (skin problems).

But what I realized then, was that tatooing has jumped the shark. I used to believe everyone who had a tattoo had some deep belief about themselves and wanted to express it in ink.

Now, i tend to see more tattoos on shallow people, where that symbol of expression has become a symbol of conformity.

If you're going to tattoo something about yourself, especially something on your forehead, make sure it doesn't disqualify you from every job except a night Janitor at a Buddhist temple.


Some of us just like the way the it all comes together.

/covered 80%
//tattooist
///make way more than most of you
 
2013-05-17 10:18:21 PM
If this guy's 40 then I'm wondering what the hell he's done to himself.
 
2013-05-17 10:28:12 PM
My kid has a lot of tat's so I've had to make peace with 'em.  I'm just glad he's not pierced full of holes with stretched lobes and that BS....I guess that's the best I can do.

But I'm hoping to live long enough to see NOT having tats come back.  Doubt it, but I'll give it my best...
 
2013-05-17 10:29:33 PM

doctor wu: If this guy's 40 then I'm wondering what the hell he's done to himself.


There is a video of me taken a few days after my 50th birthday in the WORK link of my profile URL.
I have no inkling to get marked up.
 
2013-05-17 10:49:44 PM
Let me tell you about bad decisions...
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2013-05-17 11:00:45 PM

hunh: My complete lack of tattoos is my own rebellious expression of my individuality.


You too, huh?

/we are all individuals!
//i'm not!
 
2013-05-17 11:03:16 PM

austerity101: Society doesn't approve of many other things, and we pass laws from letting them discriminate against those things. So the only reason we allow this is because it's legal? That doesn't seem rational--it seems sad.


It's like if someone has a crappy beard or haircut you don't like, but those are much more changeable.  In theory a tattoo is supposed to be about what makes that person special or an individual, which is not a trait some companies look for.  They don't care how special a flower you think you are, they care if you can do x for 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week.

austerity101: To what extent should they be able to? Are there any limits we should set?


Companies have policies against facial hair.  Companies have policies about hair length.  Companies have tattoo policies.  As someone who has interviewed hundreds of people I have never given a thumbs down based on a tattoo, but it could have happened.  It would have happened with this guy.  Because he has tattoos?  No, because he has THOSE TATTOOS.  They scream poor choices and lack of long-term vision.  Likewise other tattoos could be disqualifying, but not for most of the stuff I interview for.  Put it this way, if you have to give two items about a candidate that you interviewed and a tattoo is in those top two, then it would be a no.

MrHappyRotter: at the end of the day, all a potential employer should be concerned about is his job performance. But that's not the world we live in, ridiculous as it is. I really feel for the guy. Personally I have no tats, and no desire for one, but that shouldn't matter. PERIOD. Stop being ignorant and judgemental pricks.


You have an extremely small sample of exposure to make a judgement about hiring/not hiring someone.  The hiring process is inherently about being judgmental.  If that judgement is about your tattoos that says more about you then me (your tattoo had more of an impression than you did in the interview, so your interview sucked).  Look at it this way: you have two applicants for a job, this guy and some other non-tattooed person without the beard.  They interview equally well and both have equal experience.  Who do you hire?
 
2013-05-17 11:08:31 PM

Cast: [upload.wikimedia.org image 170x237]


So if I push the bluetooth button on his forehead and tap my phone to it, I can finally see just what the fark he was thinking?
 
2013-05-17 11:08:49 PM

Hack Patooey: scottydoesntknow: 2) Why would he take his hat off? He obviously knew it was offensive (which is why he wore the hat during the interview), so why think that day 1 on the job is a good place to start showing it off?

He took off his hat and said "Imagine that, huh? Me workin' for you".


I see what you did there. Sign me up.
 
2013-05-17 11:22:41 PM

Bonkthat_Again: I have gotten crap for not having a tattoo. I was at a friend's bachelor party and his brother asked, "What do you have against tattoos?" My jaw dropped. Wha? "Uh, nothing." To which he responds, "Then why don't you have any?


I get similar questions from people who know they drink too much.  They disapprove of themselves and project their disapproval onto others.  The only way to reassure them that you don't disapprove is to get drunk with them.  So they badger me about why I don't drink.
 
2013-05-17 11:24:07 PM

EbolaNYC: ferretman: Screw this guy...lets turn this thread around...

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Lovely girl, but some of her tattoos are hideous. WTF is that in the middle of her chest??


It's a personal expression of how she wants you to check out her tits and then act mad about it. Girl chest tattoos are a leading sign of craziness.
 
2013-05-17 11:29:01 PM

pedobearapproved: inner ted:  i'm more concerned with the individual - less with how they look.

You have a face tat don't you?

How you choose to look defines you as an individual. Do you have the skills to conform to social mores when necessary? That's a HUGE, if not why would anyone want you? It's the same as walking into the interview wearing a ripped up Slayer t-shirt. If you are unable to tell that the situation demands professionalism then you're going to be a crap employee. When you choose to tattoo yourself in your face you're telling people "I don't feel the need to conform." Which is fine, but it's your problem, not a problem for anyone else.

The next article the guy will complain that not even the chav chicks will fark him, even with his stunning amish chic look, and you'll be giving him a shoulder to cry on telling him how unfair it is.


yes, because "a crap employee" knows his place when it comes to "appearance"

the same way that murderers in court put on a fancy suit and hair cut in order to "conform to social norms" and win over judge and jury? 

Superficiality: the new cool.
 
2013-05-17 11:33:06 PM

Twist-42: bad decision makers make for bad employees. I wouldn't hire him either.


yes, that's why "you hire people" because middle managers are good "yes men" and do exactly as the groupthinking tells them to. 

movers and shakers see "beyond the obvious" and discover greatness.  You keep hiring those "conventionals" and stick with safe choices. 

Good luck on that rung.  Or, in that "service" based business hustle you're working yourself to death over.
 
2013-05-17 11:43:33 PM

JungleBoogie: [bloodytheater.files.wordpress.com image 265x380]


Win.
 
2013-05-17 11:49:29 PM

Fark U: movers and shakers see "beyond the obvious" and discover greatness. You keep hiring those "conventionals" and stick with safe choices.


What about him says "mover and shaker" to you?  The thought that hiring someone who looks "normal" is bad is just as dumb (if not moreso) as the thought that hiring someone who looks "different" is bad.  Either way you are classifying someone purely on a superficial level.
 
2013-05-18 12:24:22 AM

garumph: When someone has tattoos on their face like that I seriously question their decision making ability.


That's all that really needed to be said. Thread over.
 
2013-05-18 12:25:44 AM

mjbok: Fark U: movers and shakers see "beyond the obvious" and discover greatness. You keep hiring those "conventionals" and stick with safe choices.

What about him says "mover and shaker" to you?  The thought that hiring someone who looks "normal" is bad is just as dumb (if not moreso) as the thought that hiring someone who looks "different" is bad.  Either way you are classifying someone purely on a superficial level.


No I'm not, I'm referring to the "society says" crowd.

"see beyond the obvious" means "not superficial" get it?  Or, do you just feel better playing the "tit for tat" game?  

/reverse hypocriticisms ftw?
//NO U!!!
 
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2013-05-18 12:26:56 AM

GreenSun: Why are people with visible tattoos being discriminated against for job positions anyway? Do people still believe that tattoos are just for criminals? When did tattoos become such a big professional no-no anyway?

I don't have any tattoos because I don't like having anything permanent on me, but I still don't really understand the negative views about people with tattoos. Not everyone with tattoos are dumb or criminals automatically.


This is really sort of level 1 trolling.  It would probably pass muster on Facebook but not Fark.  You've got to be a bit more subtle in your approach on this site.  For example had you ended with just the first question about job discrimination and then gone on to another topic you might have hooked someone.  The idea is to make us think you're just enough of a dumbass that you could be educated, then we might bite.  Here though you've just gone on and on with your "why can't we all just feel pity for the poor tattooed moron" theme and the blatant troll attempt is simply too obvious to be given any credibility.  For what it's worth, you were also way too late to the thread.  Those people that had a statement to make already came in here and blew their wad, so you're basically speaking to an empty room.

Keep practicing though, you'll get there!
 
2013-05-18 12:32:28 AM

Fark U: "see beyond the obvious" means "not superficial" get it? Or, do you just feel better playing the "tit for tat" game?


What is tat?  Where can I get it, and how do I trade it for the other thing?

Don't you think that it's very situational?  Is it an office job?  If so, is this guy going to fit in, work well, be part of the team.  As I said before for many jobs they're not looking for individuals, they're looking for people to fill roles.  Anyone that is seen as being a distraction is often not considered.  If it's for an artsy type thing that is different, because you are looking for someone that isn't just another employee, but most jobs are just that: jobs.  There is no benefit to an employer to hire a "mover and shaker".

Is the job customer facing?  If so, would a face tattoo really reflect the image that the company is going for?  This could be a greeter at Walmart, a cashier at McDonalds, or a client rep at a big company.  Many companies want their image to reflect their vision, not the whims and idiosyncrasies of their employees.
 
2013-05-18 01:45:55 AM
That's nothing...this guy comes with his own bow-tie

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2013-05-18 01:58:15 AM
www.plaidstallions.com
 
2013-05-18 02:09:58 AM
Having a face tattoo is about the same as walking around with your middle finger pointing upward. When you go to an interview like that, you're saying "F♥ck you! I don't play by societal rules. I go against the grain. I'm not a team player; I'm an 'individual', dude!"

And the employer thinks, "Fine. Be an individual somewhere else."

It's really not that difficult to understand. You can't tell me that any idiot who gets a facial tattoo isn't perfectly aware of what it says to the world, and what it will do to his chances of finding a job. They do it because-- at the time-- they're either not making good judgments (drunk/high/impulsive), or they think they're going to make it as a rock star, artist, or athlete, and when that falls through, the cool tattoos that improved their rock-n-roll image become a liability.

Then they whine about being judged for their skills/personality/work ethic. Boo hoo. You made a stupid decision, and then you made more of them when you went to interviews without covering up your tattoos.

Seriously, guys... This is not difficult:

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www.talkingmakeup.com
2.bp.blogspot.com

It's called concealer, dipshiat. Apply liberally. Go to interview. Keep doing it every day you work.

And grow your hair to cover your skull tats, too.
 
2013-05-18 02:19:15 AM

boyvoyeur: Think of it like this -

Tattoos are permanent bell bottoms
 


Or permenant mullets.
 
2013-05-18 02:19:22 AM

p51d007: That's nothing...this guy comes with his own bow-tie

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Well, at least he pulls off the bow tie look better than Tucker Carlson. Not as well as Michael Richards though.
 
2013-05-18 02:29:50 AM

namegoeshere: This guy looks like an anorexic lawn gnome. I think his failure to find a job has more to do with his dead eyed vacant stare than the tats, personally.


THIS....I wouldnt hire him out of concern for the rest of my staff in the event the Entity he sold his soul to returned for more.
 
2013-05-18 03:53:14 AM

badgerb: Hack Patooey: scottydoesntknow: 2) Why would he take his hat off? He obviously knew it was offensive (which is why he wore the hat during the interview), so why think that day 1 on the job is a good place to start showing it off?

He took off his hat and said "Imagine that, huh? Me workin' for you".

I see what you did there. Sign me up.


Sign, sign everywhere a sign, do this, don't do that, can't you read the sign?

...I'll go now :D
 
2013-05-18 08:11:36 AM

austerity101: Yanks_RSJ: austerity101: So is there an actual rational argument against hiring someone with visible tattoos?  I'm seriously asking here.  It just seems like we as a society have decided, despite how ubiquitous tattoos are, that having tattoos is bad and makes you a bad (or at least ethically suspect) person, and few people seem to be questioning that very dubious assertion.  Why do we perpetuate this?

Having tattoos doesn't make you a bad person, but when you choose to tattoo your face, you do so knowing the way society feels about that.

Like it or not, you are a representative of your employer, and if society at large doesn't "approve" of your choice, that's reason enough not to hire you.  It's business, not a character assessment.

Society doesn't approve of many other things, and we pass laws from letting them discriminate against those things.  So the only reason we allow this is because it's legal?  That doesn't seem rational--it seems sad.


Laws are passed to prevent discrimination against things people have no control over. You have complete control over the decision to tattoo yourself, and like it or not, how you present yourself is important to your prospective employer. You knew that before you decided to do that to yourself, and if you didn't, you should have.

Someone should have told you when you were a child that the world isn't fair sometimes and it certainly doesn't owe you a living.
 
2013-05-18 08:44:19 AM
Heavens gate needs a new leader , you look just the part

your hired! , Nike speakers are provided.
 
2013-05-18 09:45:46 AM

badgerb: Hack Patooey: He took off his hat and said "Imagine that, huh? Me workin' for you".

I see what you did there. Sign me up.


If God were here He'd say it to your face: "Man, I see what you did there!"
 
2013-05-18 11:01:49 AM

MrHappyRotter: Sucks for him, but in the end, reality is reality.  People are stupid and judgemental.  There are literally a myriad of jobs where his appearance shouldn't matter one iota -- at the end of the day, all a potential employer should be concerned about is his job performance.  But that's not the world we live in, ridiculous as it is.  I really feel for the guy.  Personally I have no tats, and no desire for one, but that shouldn't matter.  PERIOD.  Stop being ignorant and judgemental pricks.


Maybe it shouldn't matter, but it certainly does.  Say I run a classy restaurant.  Regardless of how I personally feel about face tattoos, and how good an employee Mr. Facetat is, the fact is that he would be extremely bad for business because I cannot control the reaction of the average customer, many of whom are not likely to return regardless of his performance. A business owner looks at the bottom line, and if a new hire will obviously cost customers, not hiring him is a no-brainer.

People should be well aware of how they will be perceived with a tattoo in the middle of their forehead, for better or for worse. The fact is, many people will look at him and immediately think "mentally unstable".  If this guy is seriously wondering why it is hard to find a job, he is not intelligent enough to hire.
 
2013-05-18 11:42:37 AM

wildcardjack: Or maybe he should just go for cult leader. He's got the unusual appearance to separate himself down.


Cult leaders need charisma. This guy's charisma score is somewhere around -137.
 
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