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(CNN)   Noted geneticist Pat Robertson explains that it's not men's fault if they cheat on their wives because cheating is "in their dna"   (outfront.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 180
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2013-05-17 05:06:06 PM  
The one thing that makes me mad about the whole "evolution made us to be polygamous, it's in our nature to want to spread our seed as far as possible" is the guys talking about will always wear a condom or if they don't, I guarantee that they will make sure the girl is on some kind of birth control. I doubt there are a lot of mentally healthy men out there that screw a whole bunch of women with the mindset that they're going to make sure they have a diverse next generation, intentionally getting girls pregnant. Are there guys out there like that? Yes, I'm sure but they're not the most successful. Like someone said, if you don't want to settle down with a nice girl fine, just stay single or do the whole friends with benefits thing which is at least better than an open marriage. But admit that you want no strings attached sex, and that there are other male viewpoints. Don't try to make a general insulting statement about all men that they can't control themselves when some obviously can and that you obviously don't want spread your seed if you use freaking birth control when your screwing.
 
2013-05-17 05:08:15 PM  

Ninja Otter: busy chillin': I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

How would you truly know? People don't exactly advertise that they've strayed. If Monica hadn't confided in Linda Tripp, what's the likelihood we'd have known about Clinton? If Broadwell hadn't gotten strangely suspicious of whatsername, would we know about Patraeus? The affairs we don't know about likely far outnumber the ones we do.

I've known people who cheated, who I would have thought were the least likely to do so. A *lot* of it is circumstance, a perfect storm of life stresses, inattention from one's partner, and just the wrong person at just the wrong time. (And in those cases, Once a Cheater is *not* always a cheater.)


I hear ya. I just wanted to post my thoughts and perspective on cheating.

I should stick to stupid one liners and bad puns.
 
2013-05-17 05:08:27 PM  

Truther: /Wanna have sex with different people? Cool - then don't get married.


Or, don't get married to someone who wants a sexually exclusive marriage.
 
2013-05-17 05:18:22 PM  

nekom: Well, to be fair, he's not really wrong.


Scary.
 
2013-05-17 05:29:32 PM  

busy chillin': coldcuts: busy chillin': does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.


/breathe

Be sure to write back later when your wife isn't staring over your keyboard :>

derp.


I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

But yeah, my wife is right here. Whatever makes you feel better.


Dude, people "defending" cheaters aren't necessarily cheaters, nor do we condone cheating. Just saying the *urge* to cheat is obviously present in us, too. Most people don't do it, and most of those who do (or don't) don't blame women or their own DNA.
 
2013-05-17 05:34:30 PM  

nekom: Well, to be fair, he's not really wrong.


...Citation farking needed.

/We just recently mapped the human genome in the first place, and you think there's something as complex as  cheating built into  DNA?
 
2013-05-17 05:35:42 PM  

Christian Bale: busy chillin': coldcuts: busy chillin': does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.


/breathe

Be sure to write back later when your wife isn't staring over your keyboard :>

derp.


I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

But yeah, my wife is right here. Whatever makes you feel better.

Dude, people "defending" cheaters aren't necessarily cheaters, nor do we condone cheating. Just saying the *urge* to cheat is obviously present in us, too. Most people don't do it, and most of those who do (or don't) don't blame women or their own DNA.


i realize that.
 
2013-05-17 05:39:40 PM  
I bet he's a fan of  Madmen.
 
2013-05-17 05:42:26 PM  

AngryJailhouseFistfark: 2. The Adulterer who feels ignored and unloved at home. The spouse no longer farks or if there's farking, it's cold and joyless and loaded with the spouse's conditions, guilt, etc. While many will say, "oh, quit your whining and get a divorce", there is often some compelling reason why divorce is not seen as an option such as children, finances, or family expectations. This person will cheat to find some affection, even if it is fleeting. It may be sequential if a regular partner is not available. It is likely to stop if the spouse begins to express genuine affection in the manner the person needs. If the person divorces the first spouse and remarries a spouse who provides the desired affection, the person is unlikely to cheat again.


^--- Hey, that's me.
 
2013-05-17 05:45:11 PM  

vernonFL: nekom: Well, to be fair, he's not really wrong.

this


He's not wrong for either gender
 
2013-05-17 05:49:45 PM  

busy chillin': does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.

/breathe


Nothing Pat Robertson says pisses me off... he has senile dementia.  With that said, even as someone who is currently having an affair, yes, it's a choice.  It doesn't come down to some wierd genetic instinctual action kind of thing.  If someone is having an affair, it's because they chose to have an affair.  I doubt there are many here who think or are arguing otherwise.
 
2013-05-17 05:55:51 PM  

busy chillin': does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.


/breathe


Well, there's at least two of us. From the looks of the thread a few others. I totally get the 'I'd like to ruin her figure!' impulse, perhaps it helps that the wife is bi so we compare notes on the women we see. It turns out we have similar taste in women.
 
2013-05-17 06:09:10 PM  
If you are dumb enough to believe buy this, you deserve to be cheated on.
 
2013-05-17 06:23:08 PM  
I must be an "alien" of high moral standing, because I have "never" cheated and never intend to (too strong of a conscious)

I'm happy being "set apart" from the herd in any way possible.


John 15:19ESV /


If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
 
2013-05-17 06:28:18 PM  
Specfically, in our kissbutdonttelomeres.
 
2013-05-17 06:34:37 PM  
I'm with Pat on this.
 
2013-05-17 06:51:55 PM  

Fark U: I must be an "alien" of high moral standing, because I have "never" cheated and never intend to (too strong of a conscious)

I'm happy being "set apart" from the herd in any way possible.



Give it a few years.

And maybe you'll feel exactly the same.

Point being though, I don't think most people take their wedding vows with a belief that they will cheat on their spouse sometime down the road.  Rather, given enough time, some marriages end up such that with the right set of circumstances, one partner does have an affair.

I think most people, while their marriage is good, say and believe that they won't stray.  But marriages don't always stay that good.
 
2013-05-17 06:56:45 PM  
Well, biologically speaking, he's right. He's still a twatwaffle, though.
 
2013-05-17 10:21:36 PM  
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Does Pat look kind of like he's getting sucked off in this picture?
 
2013-05-17 10:56:03 PM  

Kiwimann: Fark U: I must be an "alien" of high moral standing, because I have "never" cheated and never intend to (too strong of a conscious)

I'm happy being "set apart" from the herd in any way possible.


Give it a few years.

And maybe you'll feel exactly the same.

Point being though, I don't think most people take their wedding vows with a belief that they will cheat on their spouse sometime down the road.  Rather, given enough time, some marriages end up such that with the right set of circumstances, one partner does have an affair.

I think most people, while their marriage is good, say and believe that they won't stray.  But marriages don't always stay that good.


I'm 37 and haven't changed a lick as far as that goes.  Not married, and will likely never trust anyone enough to marry.  The way most people carry themselves in everyday life is an instant turnoff (no boundaries, risky, thrill seekers--no thanks) but I have channeled my energies into more important things (sublimation).
 
2013-05-17 11:11:45 PM  
Well, the answer is clear then.

Ladies, we need to make sure this portion of the DNA is "selected against".

/science!
 
2013-05-17 11:13:37 PM  

busy chillin': does this stuff piss anyone else off? I can't be the only guy on here that isn't a cheater? Never done it.

the "we can't control ourselves its in our dna horndog asshole male I can't think of anything but sex all day" image pisses me off.


/breathe


No, it's not just you. I have a higher opinion/expectation of guys as well.

/last post was snark, naturally.
 
2013-05-17 11:22:38 PM  

Thisbymaster: I have never cheated, mainly because it will be a cold day in hell before two women like me at the same time.


 So the only reason you haven't cheated is because women don't like you enough for you to be able to do so.

.....

 Do you think that might be part of the reason why the women don't like you?
 
2013-05-17 11:31:00 PM  

busy chillin': Khellendros: busy chillin': I've never cheated...that fact won't change if she was standing here. My brother has never cheated. My dad never cheated. I have a bunch of guy friends that have never cheated.

I notice that you speak with a lot of authority about other people.  You're either quite creepy, with a vast network of surveillance equipment and too much time on your hands, or incredibly naive.  The chance that every male member of your inner group of family and friends has been 100% faithful to their partners is practically zero (female as well).

bunch = every in your world? Of course I have friends that have cheated.

Jesus, I struck a nerve.


Indeed, it appears you did.

 I've never seen someone so pissed off on finding out that other people haven't cheated.
 
2013-05-17 11:59:48 PM  
Charles Stanley was once almost replaced by the women in his church when he laid full responsibility for their husbands sexual happiness on them.  I say "almost" because all he did was read from "Song of Songs."  Why is that important?

Because cheating involves a cost benefit analysis - most men won't cheat if their wives put out regularly.  It's just not worth getting caught. It has little to do with morality.

Why do women cheat?  Mainly because during one short length of time in their cycle their bodies are primed to get pregnant, and preferably by an alpha male who they probably didn't marry.

Why does Pat Robertson say dumb shiat?  Because he's a douchebag that's going senile.

In my experience being faithful doesn't help, every adult male I'm blood related to has been kicked to the curb by at least one wife, and ALL of the adult women I'm related to have had multiple husbands.  AND they were the ones that initiated each divorce, and I'm pretty sure that if they had caught the men cheating they would have told EVERYBODY to make sure everyone took their side.

Yes I hate women. I also hate men.  You suck humanity.  You are a disappointment to your Creator in every last conceivable manner.  Toodles.
 
2013-05-18 12:22:28 AM  
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2013-05-18 01:17:49 AM  
Isn't Adultery there in the big Top 10? So, he's all for letting Adultery slide?
 
2013-05-18 01:48:44 AM  
It's probably in our DNA to hit people in the head with a rock when they piss us off. We're just supposed to act a bit better than just responding to our basest instincts.
 
2013-05-18 06:42:46 AM  
I got all kinds of inclinations caused by the nature of our bodies and the world they evolved in.. but guess what you fat hypocrite, I take responsibility for the decisions I make in response to those demands. Try it.
 
2013-05-18 08:05:28 AM  

Jarhead_h: Charles Stanley was once almost replaced by the women in his church when he laid full responsibility for their husbands sexual happiness on them.  I say "almost" because all he did was read from "Song of Songs."  Why is that important?

Because cheating involves a cost benefit analysis - most men won't cheat if their wives put out regularly.  It's just not worth getting caught. It has little to do with morality.

Why do women cheat?  Mainly because during one short length of time in their cycle their bodies are primed to get pregnant, and preferably by an alpha male who they probably didn't marry.

Why does Pat Robertson say dumb shiat?  Because he's a douchebag that's going senile.

In my experience being faithful doesn't help, every adult male I'm blood related to has been kicked to the curb by at least one wife, and ALL of the adult women I'm related to have had multiple husbands.  AND they were the ones that initiated each divorce, and I'm pretty sure that if they had caught the men cheating they would have told EVERYBODY to make sure everyone took their side.

Yes I hate women. I also hate men.  You suck humanity.  You are a disappointment to your Creator in every last conceivable manner.  Toodles.



Alpha males, huh?  Is that why society has produced so many alpha offspring so far? 

/groupthink, let me parrot it for you
 
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