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2013-05-17 12:57:46 PM  
Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-05-17 01:01:15 PM  
Terry Bradshaw is ranked too damn high.
 
2013-05-17 01:11:17 PM  

kronicfeld: Terry Bradshaw is ranked too damn high.


Your four Super Bowl rings, show me them.

a.espncdn.com
 
2013-05-17 01:15:53 PM  

teto85: Your four Super Bowl rings, show me them.


Roethlisberger and Eli Manning have two Super Bowl Rings, therefore they're both better than Marino, right?
 
2013-05-17 01:36:42 PM  

teto85: kronicfeld: Terry Bradshaw is ranked too damn high.

Your four Super Bowl rings, show me them.

[a.espncdn.com image 195x262]


Amazing what a good offensive line and world-class defense can deliver in the hardware department.

Doug Flutie's writeup gave me pause:

FTFA: Of course this list has to include anyone that can run off to Canada for nine years, win three CFL Grey Cups, and then return at age 36 to lead Buffalo into the postseason with a Pro Bowl year.Flutie did just that in 1998, facing NFL-quality competition for the first time since his twenties.

I think that if a QB, at 5'8", 170lbs, and age 36, can show up from the CFL to the NFL and post an 81.5 efficiency, then maybe you need to rethink exactly what "facing NFL-quality competition" really means. Seems to me that CFL-quality competition served him exceptionally well.  I had the pleasure of being at every home game he played between '92 and '96, and goddamned it was a lot of fun to watch him play.

 Doug Flutie is only one of a long line of exceptional QBs to play in the NFL that were, for their time, deemed too small or too black to play in the NFL.  Of course, like a whole host of other strategies, the NFL braintrusts eventually came around to the idea that a successful QB didn't have to be the Rob Johnson 6'4" statue in the pocket.

The CFL is about taking chances.  NFL teams are selected and fielded to play not to lose.  I understand the strategy differences, but there's no question in my mind which one is more fun to watch.
 
2013-05-17 01:50:29 PM  
Christ, what a shiatty website.

Click link to "100 Greatest..."
Land on page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, here for 80-71, etc"
Click link for 100-91
Land on page with 100-96, and link at the bottom for page two
Get to end of page two and try to find way back to page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, etc"
Hit "back" twice
Click link for 90-81
Give up halfway through first page
Wipe hands on pants.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:58 PM  

teto85: Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.[25.media.tumblr.com image 641x608]


#1 and #3 is not high enough?
 
2013-05-17 02:59:21 PM  
I'd be happier of the 100 greatest sacks of the 100 greatest QBs
 
2013-05-17 03:00:44 PM  
Here's Joe Montana getting sacked over and over again

http://youtu.be/IZDSS9rw3x0
 
2013-05-17 03:08:41 PM  
Don't have time to read the whole thing.  Moses Moreno is there, right?  Right?

/sigh...
 
2013-05-17 03:09:48 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Christ, what a shiatty website.

Click link to "100 Greatest..."
Land on page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, here for 80-71, etc"
Click link for 100-91
Land on page with 100-96, and link at the bottom for page two
Get to end of page two and try to find way back to page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, etc"
Hit "back" twice
Click link for 90-81
Give up halfway through first page
Wipe hands on pants.


THIS.  Fark it
 
2013-05-17 03:10:24 PM  
Anyone with a brain knows that Dan Fouts is the greatest QB ever.
 
2013-05-17 03:12:56 PM  
Manning >Young
 
2013-05-17 03:14:12 PM  
Boomer and Bledsoe in the Top 30.  I am happy.
 
2013-05-17 03:14:26 PM  
WHAR TEBOW WHAR????
 
2013-05-17 03:22:21 PM  
Without looking...lemme take just a WILD stab in the farking dark and guess lil Tommay Brieber is ...what...1 or 2?

cup those balls gently
 
2013-05-17 03:27:39 PM  
I see Romo continues to be rated based on his shiatty offensive line and the stupid decisions made by Jones and not by his personal stats.
 
2013-05-17 03:28:18 PM  

xaks: Without looking...lemme take just a WILD stab in the farking dark and guess lil Tommay Brieber is ...what...1 or 2?

cup those balls gently


Nope! 5th, I think.
 
2013-05-17 03:28:48 PM  
Bernie Kosar at #61 is a friggin' joke.
 
2013-05-17 03:31:59 PM  

teto85: Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.[25.media.tumblr.com image 641x608]


I'm a huge Niner fan, but have to admit that the Joe & Steve thing is a bit over-hyped.  Take a look at Eli Manning's numbers and compare them with the Niners QBs for the same years.  His numbers were just better, and yet when we talk about greatest QBs of all time, his name is nowhere even close to the conversation.  I'm not saying that's right or wrong,  would like it if other Farkers could shed some light on this for me.  Different eras?  Are QBs just more pass-happy now?
 
2013-05-17 03:32:48 PM  

xiola: Gecko Gingrich: Christ, what a shiatty website.

Click link to "100 Greatest..."
Land on page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, here for 80-71, etc"
Click link for 100-91
Land on page with 100-96, and link at the bottom for page two
Get to end of page two and try to find way back to page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, etc"
Hit "back" twice
Click link for 90-81
Give up halfway through first page
Wipe hands on pants.

THIS.  Fark it


Just as bad as a slideshow.
 
2013-05-17 03:35:07 PM  

buckeyebrain: WHAR TEBOW WHAR????


He got beat out by David Garrard.
 
2013-05-17 03:35:29 PM  

The Banana Thug: teto85: Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.[25.media.tumblr.com image 641x608]

I'm a huge Niner fan, but have to admit that the Joe & Steve thing is a bit over-hyped.  Take a look at Eli Manning's numbers and compare them with the Niners QBs for the same years.  His numbers were just better, and yet when we talk about greatest QBs of all time, his name is nowhere even close to the conversation.  I'm not saying that's right or wrong,  would like it if other Farkers could shed some light on this for me.  Different eras?  Are QBs just more pass-happy now?


That's because Eli's Cutlerian statistics and flaky consistency don't do much to highlight his set of rings.
 
2013-05-17 03:36:26 PM  
Never seen someone put together webpages with staples before.
 
2013-05-17 03:36:34 PM  
No one's talkin' about Colt McCoy?
 
2013-05-17 03:38:56 PM  

Prevailing Wind: Manning >Young


Elway>Manning
 
2013-05-17 03:39:44 PM  

The Banana Thug: I'm a huge Niner fan, but have to admit that the Joe & Steve thing is a bit over-hyped. Take a look at Eli Manning's numbers and compare them with the Niners QBs for the same years. His numbers were just better, and yet when we talk about greatest QBs of all time, his name is nowhere even close to the conversation. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, would like it if other Farkers could shed some light on this for me. Different eras? Are QBs just more pass-happy now?


They are indeed.  Look at all the passing records being shattered.  Defense is all but illegal now.
 
2013-05-17 03:40:04 PM  
Theismann and Ken Anderson are ranked too high, but a great list aside from that.  Only read 1-20 though.
 
2013-05-17 03:40:45 PM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: The Banana Thug: teto85: Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.[25.media.tumblr.com image 641x608]

I'm a huge Niner fan, but have to admit that the Joe & Steve thing is a bit over-hyped.  Take a look at Eli Manning's numbers and compare them with the Niners QBs for the same years.  His numbers were just better, and yet when we talk about greatest QBs of all time, his name is nowhere even close to the conversation.  I'm not saying that's right or wrong,  would like it if other Farkers could shed some light on this for me.  Different eras?  Are QBs just more pass-happy now?

That's because Eli's Cutlerian statistics and flaky consistency don't do much to highlight his set of rings.


Also, teams used to run the ball.
 
das
2013-05-17 03:40:57 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: I'd be happier of the 100 greatest sacks of the 100 greatest QBs


Turkey Jones #1!!!
 
2013-05-17 03:45:15 PM  
WHAR DELHOMME WHAR
 
2013-05-17 03:51:04 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Here's Joe Montana getting sacked over and over again

http://youtu.be/IZDSS9rw3x0


cdn.bleacherreport.net

Here's Joe Montana going upstairs to masturbate
 
2013-05-17 03:52:14 PM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: The Banana Thug: teto85: Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.[25.media.tumblr.com image 641x608]

I'm a huge Niner fan, but have to admit that the Joe & Steve thing is a bit over-hyped.  Take a look at Eli Manning's numbers and compare them with the Niners QBs for the same years.  His numbers were just better, and yet when we talk about greatest QBs of all time, his name is nowhere even close to the conversation.  I'm not saying that's right or wrong,  would like it if other Farkers could shed some light on this for me.  Different eras?  Are QBs just more pass-happy now?

That's because Eli's Cutlerian statistics and flaky consistency don't do much to highlight his set of rings.


Eli Manning: 31,500 passing yards, 211 TDs, 144 INTs, 54 Fumbles, 82.7 QB Rating, 9 years.
Steve Young: 33,000 passing yards, 232 TDs, 107 INTs, 22 Fumbles, 96.2 QB Rating, 15 years.
Joe Montana: 44,500 passing yards, 273 TDs, 139 INTs, 4 Fumbles, 92.3 QB Rating, 15 years.

Granted, Eli's number of fumbles and interceptions is pathetic, but otherwise he's on pace to beat Young in a few vital categories, especially given that Young had 5 years to incubate his skills while Eli was already starting by his second year and racked up mistakes early on.  I just think it's odd, how we measure a QB's greatness, that's all.
 
2013-05-17 03:59:01 PM  

umad: Prevailing Wind: Manning >Young

Elway>Manning


In throwing buttloads of interceptions? I agree. John Elway is IMO the most overrated QB of all time. Exactly how does a guy with zero AP First Team All Pro Awards get in the top 10? The AP voters didn't think he was the best QB in the league one time, but he's the 5th best since the merger?

Marino: 3-time First Team All Pro
Manning: 6-times
Montana: 3-times
Young: 3-times
Brady: 2-times
Elway: Zero

And any QB GOAT list that has Bradshaw in the top 10 is over-attributing wins to the QB position. The Steelers were a defense-first, run the ball and control the clock team-second.

Like the article said...Noll use to bench him regularly and the guy's decision making at times was JaMarcus-like...he was very mortal other than 1978 when he won the MVP (BTW, even TB has one First Team All Pro award Elway faithful)
 
2013-05-17 04:05:49 PM  
Joe Flacco sucks because his team wins more than anyone else but he's not outstanding. Terry Bradshaw is great because his team won more than anyone else despite him not being outstanding. Gotcha.

Not arguing for Flacco in the top 20. God no. But behind Ryan, still? Behind Trent Green, whose yearly stats are worse and never won a ring? Behind Neil Lomax??
 
2013-05-17 04:10:14 PM  

Coach_J: The AP voters didn't think he was the best QB in the league one time, but he's the 5th best since the merger?


1. The AP voters don't control my vote.
2. Being consistently a top five QB for fifteen years is worth quite a lot. Lots of guys have one ridiculous season then disappear. Look at London Fletcher: he's had a career that puts him near Hall of Fame consideration, but somehow year after year there were always two LBs who had slightly better stats and name recognition who made the Pro Bowl ahead of him.
 
2013-05-17 04:11:43 PM  

The Banana Thug: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: The Banana Thug: teto85: Joe & Steve not ranked high enough.  Other than that, it's ok.[25.media.tumblr.com image 641x608]

I'm a huge Niner fan, but have to admit that the Joe & Steve thing is a bit over-hyped.  Take a look at Eli Manning's numbers and compare them with the Niners QBs for the same years.  His numbers were just better, and yet when we talk about greatest QBs of all time, his name is nowhere even close to the conversation.  I'm not saying that's right or wrong,  would like it if other Farkers could shed some light on this for me.  Different eras?  Are QBs just more pass-happy now?

That's because Eli's Cutlerian statistics and flaky consistency don't do much to highlight his set of rings.

Eli Manning: 31,500 passing yards, 211 TDs, 144 INTs, 54 Fumbles, 82.7 QB Rating, 9 years.
Steve Young: 33,000 passing yards, 232 TDs, 107 INTs, 22 Fumbles, 96.2 QB Rating, 15 years.
Joe Montana: 44,500 passing yards, 273 TDs, 139 INTs, 4 Fumbles, 92.3 QB Rating, 15 years.

Granted, Eli's number of fumbles and interceptions is pathetic, but otherwise he's on pace to beat Young in a few vital categories, especially given that Young had 5 years to incubate his skills while Eli was already starting by his second year and racked up mistakes early on.  I just think it's odd, how we measure a QB's greatness, that's all.


I personally look at same era peer comparisons.

QBs now routinely do at the season midpoint was Otto Graham did in a 12-game season. But when you see that he threw for 2,800+ yards in a season and next closest was 2,300+...that's a massive margin of production.
 
2013-05-17 04:15:37 PM  
WHAR JAY FIELDER WHAR

/go phins
 
2013-05-17 04:19:08 PM  
Joe Namath is, by far, the most overrated professional athlete in American history.

Terry Bradshaw would otherwise have been the most overrated QB in NFL history, if not for Joe.
 
2013-05-17 04:20:17 PM  
Oh, and Troy Aikman #6?!!?! HAHAHAHA

I mean, he's not NEARLY as overrated as Bradshaw, but he shouldn't be top 15.
 
2013-05-17 04:21:20 PM  
Oh, and yeah, Brady is overrated, but at least he's probably in the top 10.
 
2013-05-17 04:21:34 PM  
The Banana Thug:
Steve Young: 33,000 passing yards, 232 TDs, 107 INTs, 22 Fumbles, 96.2 QB Rating, 15 years.

You know not all of those years count, right? See also: back, monkey.

ww2.hdnux.com
 
2013-05-17 04:24:56 PM  
Kurt Warner at 20?
 
2013-05-17 04:25:45 PM  

puffy999: Oh, and Troy Aikman #6?!!?! HAHAHAHA

I mean, he's not NEARLY as overrated as Bradshaw, but he shouldn't be top 15.


Did you see the way he handed the ball of to Emmitt?  I would like to see you try that
 
2013-05-17 04:28:18 PM  
I would replace Aikman and Bradshaw in that top ten with Kurt Warner and Jim Kelly
 
2013-05-17 04:29:38 PM  
img.beckett.com

List fail
 
2013-05-17 04:30:42 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Christ, what a shiatty website.

Click link to "100 Greatest..."
Land on page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, here for 80-71, etc"
Click link for 100-91
Land on page with 100-96, and link at the bottom for page two
Get to end of page two and try to find way back to page with "Click here for 100-91, here for 90-81, etc"
Hit "back" twice
Click link for 90-81
Give up halfway through first page
Wipe hands on pants.


Here you go.  You can now at least skip to the page of the person you want to read about

001. Joe Montana
002. Tom Brady
003. Steve Young
004. Peyton Manning
005. John Elway
006. Troy Aikman
007. Terry Bradshaw
008. Dan Marino
009. Brett Favre
010. Roger Staubach
011. Drew Brees
012. Dan Fouts
013. Jim Kelly
014. Warren Moon
015. Fran Tarkenton
016. Aaron Rodgers
017. Joe Theismann
018. Ken Anderson
019. Ben Roethlisberger
020. Kurt Warner
021. Phil Simms
022. Eli Manning
023. Bob Griese
024. Randall Cunningham
025. Boomer Esiason
026. Donovan McNabb
027. Ken Stabler
028. Rich Gannon
029. Mark Brunell
030. Drew Bledsoe
031. Dave Krieg
032. Brad Johnson
033. Jim Plunkett
034. Ron Jaworski
035. Steve McNair
036. Billy Kilmer
037. Jeff Garcia
038. Matt Hasselbeck
039. Ken O'Brien
040. Craig Morton
041. Trent Green
042. Danny White
043. Neil Lomax
044. Philip Rivers
045. Daunte Culpepper
046. Matt Ryan
047. Len Dawson
048. Joe Flacco
049. Carson Palmer
050. Mark Rypien
051. Brian Sipe
052. Neil O'Donnell
053. Jeff Hostetler
054. Michael Vick
055. Jim Harbaugh
056. Jake Plummer
057. Vinny Testaverde
058. Steve DeBerg
059. Steve Bartkowski
060. Sonny Jurgensen
061. Bernie Kosar
062. Tony Romo
063. Jim Hart
064. Jim Everett
065. Kerry Collins
066. John Brodie
067. Daryle Lamonica
068. Steve Beuerlein
069. Jay Schroeder
070. Matt Schaub
071. Archie Manning
072. Roman Gabriel
073. Marc Bulger
074. Chris Chandler
075. Bobby Hebert
076. Jake Delhomme
077. Jay Cutler
078. Elvis Grbac
079. Jeff George
080. Bert Jones
081. Steve Grogan
082. Matthew Stafford
083. Lynn Dickey
084. Jon Kitna
085. Stan Humphries
086. Joe Namath
087. David Garrard
088. Aaron Brooks
089. Joe Ferguson
090. Jim McMahon
091. Trent Dilfer
092. John Hadl
093. Brian Griese
094. Doug Williams
095. Chad Pennington
096. Alex Smith
097. Jim Zorn
098. Doug Flutie
099. Dan Pastorini
100. Gus Frerotte
 
2013-05-17 04:31:39 PM  

robsul82: WHAR DELHOMME WHAR


#76.

No, really.
 
2013-05-17 04:31:46 PM  

Coach_J: umad: Prevailing Wind: Manning >Young

Elway>Manning

In throwing buttloads of interceptions?


In winning with shiatty receivers. Elway never had the talent around him that Manning has had for his entire career. And Manning still can't win a Super Bowl. The one that Grossman won for him doesn't count.
 
2013-05-17 04:32:37 PM  
Rodgers is infinitely better than Favre, who was a detriment to his team far more often than not.
 
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