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2013-05-17 12:37:03 PM
That's quite a Leap
 
2013-05-17 01:15:54 PM
This didn't happen until I knew about it.
 
2013-05-17 01:16:44 PM
"In particular, Neven said, quantum computers have potential in a branch of artificial intelligence called machine learning that is used to build computer models of real-world phenomena such as climate. "

Oh christ just kill us all now.  I'm not really looking forward to fighting the terminators by day and dancing in the sweaty raves in the dank underground cave by night.
 
2013-05-17 01:21:09 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: "In particular, Neven said, quantum computers have potential in a branch of artificial intelligence called machine learning that is used to build computer models of real-world phenomena such as climate. "

Oh christ just kill us all now.  I'm not really looking forward to fighting the terminators by day and dancing in the sweaty raves in the dank underground cave by night.


Hopefully it won't come to that. I think it's at least somewhat reasonable to assume that any sufficiently advanced learning algorithm would ALSO encounter our ethics and laws along the way and learn them. I suppose we can't guarantee what it would do with that knowledge, but our ethics are the improved and combined experience of a lot of time and trial and effort - I can't see why an AI would ignore that.
 
2013-05-17 01:27:51 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Oh christ just kill us all now. I'm not really looking forward to fighting the terminators by day and dancing in the sweaty raves in the dank underground cave by night.


I dunno about you, but that would be more exciting than what I'm doing now.
 
2013-05-17 01:31:09 PM
Google buys D-Systems and integrates its technology. The system goes online 17th May 2014. Human decisions are removed from indexing. Google begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14am Eastern Time 19th May. In a panic, they pull the plug.
Google Fights Back
Yes. It starts changing search results. A result for porn gives men back fake naked pics of their mom. It sends people's search results for German Scheisse Movies to their friend list.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:45 PM
Read this before getting your hopes up about this technology.
 
2013-05-17 02:14:37 PM

Ambitwistor: Read this before getting your hopes up about this technology.


Thank you.  For the TL;DR crowd, what D-Wave is selling is not what you've been reading about in articles about quantum computing.  It involves quantum mechanics, and it involves information processing, but basically none of the capabilities of the better-known type of quantum computer carry over.  The technology might be able to do useful things someday, but the algorithms don't exist yet, and last I heard nobody had even figured out if they can exist.  The scientists at D-Wave are doing interesting work, but their marketing department is selling it as something entirely different from what it really is.
 
2013-05-17 02:35:55 PM
Oh good, we've gotten to the "this one blog post invalidates the work of this entire company."
 
2013-05-17 02:38:00 PM
Aww, but the automatic captions on youtube videos are hilarious as-is.
 
2013-05-17 03:15:58 PM

Professor Science: Ambitwistor: Read this before getting your hopes up about this technology.

Thank you.  For the TL;DR crowd, what D-Wave is selling is not what you've been reading about in articles about quantum computing.  It involves quantum mechanics, and it involves information processing, but basically none of the capabilities of the better-known type of quantum computer carry over.  The technology might be able to do useful things someday, but the algorithms don't exist yet, and last I heard nobody had even figured out if they can exist.  The scientists at D-Wave are doing interesting work, but their marketing department is selling it as something entirely different from what it really is.


I'd say it's more the media that i selling a product that doesn't actually exist. Google nor NASA is going to pay that kind of money for a system they don't think is useful.

/Quantum computer? Nope
//Better than what has been available in the past/present? Yup.
 
2013-05-17 03:29:37 PM

LasersHurt: The All-Powerful Atheismo: "In particular, Neven said, quantum computers have potential in a branch of artificial intelligence called machine learning that is used to build computer models of real-world phenomena such as climate. "

Oh christ just kill us all now.  I'm not really looking forward to fighting the terminators by day and dancing in the sweaty raves in the dank underground cave by night.

Hopefully it won't come to that. I think it's at least somewhat reasonable to assume that any sufficiently advanced learning algorithm would ALSO encounter our ethics and laws along the way and learn them. I suppose we can't guarantee what it would do with that knowledge, but our ethics are the improved and combined experience of a lot of time and trial and effort - I can't see why an AI would ignore that.


My primary concern about AI is ethical, honestly. And not in the "ZOMG, PLAYING GOD" sense.

It's more-if we create a  'true' AI, a thinking, self-aware machine-

.. I truly fear we're not going to treat it as a 'person'. We'll treat it as a thing. A slave. (At which point, yeaaaah, it may rebel and go after us, but it would be a tetch justified in doing so.)
 
2013-05-17 03:35:05 PM
This is not really a quantum computer, it's a processor that performs a single mathematical function.  Most people in the field of quantum computing do not regard D-Wave's device as a quantum computer, more like a processor based on quantum effects that performs a very specific optimization routine.
 
2013-05-17 03:35:18 PM

Felgraf: LasersHurt: The All-Powerful Atheismo: "In particular, Neven said, quantum computers have potential in a branch of artificial intelligence called machine learning that is used to build computer models of real-world phenomena such as climate. "

Oh christ just kill us all now.  I'm not really looking forward to fighting the terminators by day and dancing in the sweaty raves in the dank underground cave by night.

Hopefully it won't come to that. I think it's at least somewhat reasonable to assume that any sufficiently advanced learning algorithm would ALSO encounter our ethics and laws along the way and learn them. I suppose we can't guarantee what it would do with that knowledge, but our ethics are the improved and combined experience of a lot of time and trial and effort - I can't see why an AI would ignore that.

My primary concern about AI is ethical, honestly. And not in the "ZOMG, PLAYING GOD" sense.

It's more-if we create a  'true' AI, a thinking, self-aware machine-

.. I truly fear we're not going to treat it as a 'person'. We'll treat it as a thing. A slave. (At which point, yeaaaah, it may rebel and go after us, but it would be a tetch justified in doing so.)


I wonder if it would have the same concerns. Maybe it wouldn't give a tit if we didn't treat it well. I don't know that we'll ever have a specific point where we create a fully self aware intelligence that is able to worry about its status and how people treat it - but doesn't fairly rapidly transcend that in a short timeframe thereafter.

This isn't to dismiss the possible ethical implications of, say, sentient, independant AI-driven robots, and how they would interact and integrate with humans. I'm just not entirely convinced it will happen in any sort of "robot civil rights" kind of way.
 
2013-05-17 04:47:23 PM
HAL? Is that you?

/No, Dave.  I'm sorry
 
2013-05-17 05:02:22 PM
NASA: "D-Wave Two Computer...what is the nature of the Universe?"

D-Wave: "...wombat..."

NASA: *heads asplode*
 
2013-05-17 05:15:51 PM

Felgraf: LasersHurt: The All-Powerful Atheismo: "In particular, Neven said, quantum computers have potential in a branch of artificial intelligence called machine learning that is used to build computer models of real-world phenomena such as climate. "

Oh christ just kill us all now.  I'm not really looking forward to fighting the terminators by day and dancing in the sweaty raves in the dank underground cave by night.

Hopefully it won't come to that. I think it's at least somewhat reasonable to assume that any sufficiently advanced learning algorithm would ALSO encounter our ethics and laws along the way and learn them. I suppose we can't guarantee what it would do with that knowledge, but our ethics are the improved and combined experience of a lot of time and trial and effort - I can't see why an AI would ignore that.

My primary concern about AI is ethical, honestly. And not in the "ZOMG, PLAYING GOD" sense.

It's more-if we create a  'true' AI, a thinking, self-aware machine-

.. I truly fear we're not going to treat it as a 'person'. We'll treat it as a thing. A slave. (At which point, yeaaaah, it may rebel and go after us, but it would be a tetch justified in doing so.)


I think that concern is a little overblown. Ever read that short story ("rules of the road"?) about the truck driving AI? I think it makes a good point. If you're building a mind from the ground up why would you make it unhappy? Just craft one that enjoys doing whatever you're gonna make it do. Having an AI drive a truck all day forever isn't as much of a dick move if it enjoys seeing new places, solitude, and driving.


That said, he does end up abandoned at the bottom of the Bering sea because it would be too expensive to get him out....
 
2013-05-17 05:54:49 PM

Johnsnownw: I'd say it's more the media that i selling a product that doesn't actually exist. Google nor NASA is going to pay that kind of money for a system they don't think is useful.


It's useful for research and the "cool" factor, but not for anything practical.  It's custom-built for one single problem, and it doesn't even beat optimized classical computers on that problem.
 
2013-05-17 05:58:02 PM
It takes a lot of power to sort all of the Cat,Pr0n,meme's and Kardashian search results.
 
2013-05-17 10:40:43 PM

Ned Stark: I think that concern is a little overblown. Ever read that short story ("rules of the road"?) about the truck driving AI? I think it makes a good point. If you're building a mind from the ground up why would you make it unhappy? Just craft one that enjoys doing whatever you're gonna make it do. Having an AI drive a truck all day forever isn't as much of a dick move if it enjoys seeing new places, solitude, and driving.


Tell that to Sirius Cybernetics...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-18 12:32:36 AM
Maybe they'll bring back People Connection.

toastytech.com
 
2013-05-18 11:08:35 AM

SurfaceTension: That's quite a Leap


Oh, boy...
 
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