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2013-05-17 04:11:26 PM  
Lot of weird crazy angst in this thread.
 
2013-05-17 04:12:24 PM  

URAPNIS: B.L.Z. Bub: jehovahs witness protection: My uncle got rid of my crazy aunt before she could do permanent damage.

Hahaha...NO. The correct pronunciation of "aunt" is "ahnt", so that joke does not work. But nice try.

But for the rest of us who pronounce "aunt" as "ant", it's funny.


ahnt?  there's no "H" in Aunt and you forgot the "U".

That's always sounded pretentious to me.  Sort of like William F. Buckley Jr. Then again I don't belong to the Yacht Club.
 
2013-05-17 04:17:40 PM  

Nightsweat: uncleacid: [upload.wikimedia.org image 720x480]

Ant? Bee? Aunt Bea!


I believe that's pronounced "Ain't Bea" in Mayberry
 
2013-05-17 04:18:07 PM  
Break out the friggin flamethrower.

i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-05-17 04:34:35 PM  

muck4doo: MythDragon: musicmanboston: CSB Time:

[Marine Core Story]

CSB Time over.

What is really awesome  about fire ants, is they don't sting right away. No sir. They move in, set up little ant camps, invite the folks over, and when the party is at full capacity, they chant "One.....Twoooooooo.....THREE!" and all start farking stinging at once. That's how you end up with an entire leg full of red swarming death instead of just one sting from the first ant to reach your ankle.
I grew up in Florida, so I know you pain. Also went to basic at Ft Jackson (otherwise know as 'fireant hill') Flutter kicks + fire ants = FFFFFUUUUUUU

/Not a fan of the flying farking cockroaches either, that dive bomb you in the face for turning on the lights. Or get back up after you stomp them like that roach in WALL-E

LOL! June Bugs?



No. Not June Bugs
These farkers
www.bugs.com

Otherwise known as a Florida Woods Roach. They don't scurry when you turn on the light. They walk over and turn it back off.
 
2013-05-17 04:38:02 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: jehovahs witness protection: My uncle got rid of my crazy aunt before she could do permanent damage.

Hahaha...NO. The correct pronunciation of "aunt" is "ahnt", so that joke does not work. But nice try.


Aunt Opespa Getty.

www.picturesof.net
 
2013-05-17 04:39:23 PM  

semiotix: muck4doo: Fire ants are an invasive species and need to die where ever you find them. Harvester ants have a much more painful sting, but are native and part of the eco-system here. They also aren't as aggressive as fire ants. Horned Lizards depend on them as their main food source.

I get what you mean, although the consensus in eco-bio circles these days is that once an invasive species is past the point of eradication, you might as well start getting used to it. Fire ants at the very northern edge of their range are worth killing at whatever costs, but from the standpoint of Mother Nature, fire ants in Texas aren't really any more or less invasive than earthworms, or a few species that came over the Bering land bridge.

Tell you what, though, if I find harvester ants in my yard, instead of poisoning them, I'll let a few horned lizards loose. (And then Chinese needle snakes to kill the lizards, and then snake-eating gorillas, etc.)


I've been stung by bees, fire ants, harvester ants, and paper wasps in the past. The bees were because i was either messing with them as a kid, and learned my lesson, or like the last time got stung by a drowning bee in the swimming pool that was in a panic. Didn't even see the guy. The pain wasn't bad, the swelling bothered me more. I once got a bee in my mouth when i was a kid, so glad he didn't sting.

Fire ant stings don't hurt at all. They are more itchy. The bad thing is they gang fark you. Last time I got stung by them was washing my car, and felt the itchy burning sensation on my legs. Looked down to myself covered by those bastards. Like i said, really didn't hurt, but the next day my legs were covered with pustules.

Paper wasp. Stepped on one of those tards 2 years ago with my bare feet. Hurts like a son of a biatch. When I lifted my foot the thing flew off and didn't try to attack me more. They live on my porch still, but aren't aggressive. They go their merry way, I go mine.

Harvester Ants stings are very painful. However, they aren't pests if you know how to live with them. They don't invade homes, and won't kill your dog. They do like gardens though. The state of Texas is trying to educate people now on harvester ants, and how we can preserve this species. They are rapidly disappearing, and their loss benefits none of us. If you have harvester ants in your yard, don't panic and kill them. Learn more about them, and consider it a gift that you have them. Ant farms sold in the U.S. are almost always harvester ants. They are an interesting species. Just give them the respect they demand.
 
2013-05-17 04:41:01 PM  

Cagey B: Truther: But - does their bite hurt as badly as a fire ant's?

They appear to be too small to bite people or sting them. However, they also apparently will invade the shiat out of your house, eat your electrical wiring, and swarm your kitchens and bathrooms to the point that you have sweep them up and dump them out with dustpans.

So, it's a choice between biting, stinging bastard ants that are relatively content to hang out in their "territory", or friendly non-biting ants that form a living, moving carpet in your house and sprinkle themselves in your food.


That is a choice I hope to never have to make.
 
2013-05-17 04:42:30 PM  

MythDragon: muck4doo: MythDragon: musicmanboston: CSB Time:

[Marine Core Story]

CSB Time over.

What is really awesome  about fire ants, is they don't sting right away. No sir. They move in, set up little ant camps, invite the folks over, and when the party is at full capacity, they chant "One.....Twoooooooo.....THREE!" and all start farking stinging at once. That's how you end up with an entire leg full of red swarming death instead of just one sting from the first ant to reach your ankle.
I grew up in Florida, so I know you pain. Also went to basic at Ft Jackson (otherwise know as 'fireant hill') Flutter kicks + fire ants = FFFFFUUUUUUU

/Not a fan of the flying farking cockroaches either, that dive bomb you in the face for turning on the lights. Or get back up after you stomp them like that roach in WALL-E

LOL! June Bugs?


No. Not June Bugs
These farkers
[www.bugs.com image 832x600]

Otherwise known as a Florida Woods Roach. They don't scurry when you turn on the light. They walk over and turn it back off.


Ooooh! No experience with those. Yeah, those are cockroaches.
 
2013-05-17 04:43:32 PM  
Crazy Ant survival kit.

5 different pesticides
2 spray jugs
silver tape
more silver tape
cheap rootbeer
sugar, honey but not corn syrup
boric acid (not borax)
borax
instant chicken broth bottle
silver tape
foaming insulation
dip-grip rubberized coating (like used on pliers)
horticulture oil
coal shovel
large chunks drywall
baking soda and vinegar
funnels
spade
rake
pants
hat
thick gloves
non-ionic surfactant (very little)
*tiller (optional)


First off, crazy ants don't clean each other.  You gotta kill each and every last motherfarker one at a time.
This means you may have to go up to a mile from your home while moving some or all of this stuff with you.
Don't drink the rootbeer.  That's for the ants.

Baiting for the ants takes a cup of RB and a spoon of instant soup per gallon of pesticide mix.  Do NOT spray this where animals can get to it.
The tape is to exclude them from anywhere and anything you can.
The dip-grip is for same, you can paint it onto cloth and screens.  It makes the edge of a screen much stronger and tougher.

The Borax is for un-baiting an area. Simply mix with water and apply over top the bait.
The boric acid is for both killing the farkers AND for tracking.  Pint and Quart bottles avail.  It also does a solid clean-out of foot fungus.
The two spray jugs are so one is baited and the other isn't.

When they talk about trashcans full of dead ants, they are not kidding.
They will stink, give that a little borax dose as well.

Crazy ant lairs can be up to fifteen miles, you kill a queen's hive and the neighbors move back in.  We're talking nuclear warfare here.
Only things that stop them are solid rock and solid wet.  They will run power lines, conduit, drainage pipes and all.
 
2013-05-17 04:49:42 PM  

prjindigo: Crazy Ant survival kit.

5 different pesticides
2 spray jugs
silver tape
more silver tape
cheap rootbeer
sugar, honey but not corn syrup
boric acid (not borax)
borax
instant chicken broth bottle
silver tape
foaming insulation
dip-grip rubberized coating (like used on pliers)
horticulture oil
coal shovel
large chunks drywall
baking soda and vinegar
funnels
spade
rake
pants
hat
thick gloves
non-ionic surfactant (very little)
*tiller (optional)
.


A fella could have a good time in Vegas with that.
 
2013-05-17 05:03:44 PM  

ltdanman44: Ophiocordyceps unilateralis --  mind control fungas


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That stuff scares me. If something like that where to ever jump to humans....just the thought of seeing people crouched on top of telephone poles with spores growing out of their heads, and just looking at you with dead eyes, softly chanting "one of us. one of us. one of us." is -really- unnerving.

It's bad enough that about 1/3rd of the population is infected with Toxoplasmosis, which is said to cause behavioral changes.
 
2013-05-17 05:08:06 PM  

MythDragon: ltdanman44: Ophiocordyceps unilateralis --  mind control fungas


[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 445x334]

That stuff scares me. If something like that where to ever jump to humans....just the thought of seeing people crouched on top of telephone poles with spores growing out of their heads, and just looking at you with dead eyes, softly chanting "one of us. one of us. one of us." is -really- unnerving.

It's bad enough that about 1/3rd of the population is infected with Toxoplasmosis, which is said to cause behavioral changes.


Yep, good ol' toxy seems to influence risk taking behavior like not looking before crossing a street.  In rodents, it lessens the natural fear of predators like cats, so they get caught by the cat and the cat spreads the organism in its feces.  Amazing stuff.
 
2013-05-17 05:27:30 PM  

semiotix: muck4doo: Fire ants are an invasive species and need to die where ever you find them. Harvester ants have a much more painful sting, but are native and part of the eco-system here. They also aren't as aggressive as fire ants. Horned Lizards depend on them as their main food source.

I get what you mean, although the consensus in eco-bio circles these days is that once an invasive species is past the point of eradication, you might as well start getting used to it. Fire ants at the very northern edge of their range are worth killing at whatever costs, but from the standpoint of Mother Nature, fire ants in Texas aren't really any more or less invasive than earthworms, or a few species that came over the Bering land bridge.

Tell you what, though, if I find harvester ants in my yard, instead of poisoning them, I'll let a few horned lizards loose. (And then Chinese needle snakes to kill the lizards, and then snake-eating gorillas, etc.)


Winter, freeze to death, etc.
 
2013-05-17 05:34:49 PM  
21 counties in Texas, 20 counties in Florida, and a few sites in southern Mississippi and southern Louisiana.

So crazy ants live where crazy people live? Coincidence, I think not.
 
2013-05-17 05:41:36 PM  

muck4doo: The bad thing is the fire ants and crazy ants are driving the Harvester Ants to extinction. When i was a kid I used to see harvester ants all over Texas. In the last 11 years I've only seen 2 harvester ant mounds. The Horny Toads depend on them for food. So, that is bad. At the same time, I also got the hell bit and stung out of me by harvester ants, so them being gone is also good, but not for the horny toads. Come to think of it, i haven't seen a horny toad since i was a kid either.


have you tried looking in the mirror?

/kidding
 
2013-05-17 06:07:11 PM  

buckler: ChipNASA: " ANTS, ANTS, ANTS, I'VE GOT ANTS IN MY PANTS....LET'S DANCE!!"

"Johnny can't sing, Jimmy can't dance! We're gonna put some ANTS IN THEIR PANTS!"

Honestly, I'd take crazy ants over fire ants any day. When I was 13, my mom dragged me off to Florida. One day, I'd found I stepped into an ant mound, but didn't worry about it, because I was accustomed to the sugar ants we got in Oregon. Moments later, it felt like someone had doused my leg in lighter fluid and set it aflame. I ran to the swimming pool and plunged my leg in to dislodge the fire ants. When I told my mom, she said "oh, sorry. I guess I forgot to tell you about them,"

/CSB


Yup. My fire ant hatred is from Florida as well. Anything that kills or displaces those little demons is ok with me.
 
2013-05-17 06:11:37 PM  

TheDirtyNacho: MythDragon: ltdanman44: Ophiocordyceps unilateralis --  mind control fungas


[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 445x334]

That stuff scares me. If something like that where to ever jump to humans....just the thought of seeing people crouched on top of telephone poles with spores growing out of their heads, and just looking at you with dead eyes, softly chanting "one of us. one of us. one of us." is -really- unnerving.

It's bad enough that about 1/3rd of the population is infected with Toxoplasmosis, which is said to cause behavioral changes.

Yep, good ol' toxy seems to influence risk taking behavior like not looking before crossing a street.  In rodents, it lessens the natural fear of predators like cats, so they get caught by the cat and the cat spreads the organism in its feces.  Amazing stuff.


I like cats. I'm not sure why.
 
2013-05-17 06:15:37 PM  
Crazy ant as opposed to one of those flattened ants you find on a crazy path.
 
2013-05-17 06:23:21 PM  
A biological technique against fire ants was to put honey in a jar near their nest, then when it got many ants in it, to pour boiling water on them, killing them.  Then a lid is put on the jar, and it is kept in a warm, dark place until a mold appears on it.  Then the contents are poured on the nest, causing a plague that wipes it, and even adjacent nests out.
 
2013-05-17 06:31:51 PM  
Oh, hey guys!
farm7.staticflickr.com
blogs.scientificamerican.com
 
2013-05-17 06:32:28 PM  

ginkor: A biological technique against fire ants was to put honey in a jar near their nest, then when it got many ants in it, to pour boiling water on them, killing them.  Then a lid is put on the jar, and it is kept in a warm, dark place until a mold appears on it.  Then the contents are poured on the nest, causing a plague that wipes it, and even adjacent nests out.


If true very cool. I think I read that ants naturally promote certain molds in there food store areas that are anti-bacterial and help protect them from all the dead things they bring back...no source though...so I could be full of shiate.
 
2013-05-17 06:40:23 PM  

Evil High Priest: buckler: ChipNASA: " ANTS, ANTS, ANTS, I'VE GOT ANTS IN MY PANTS....LET'S DANCE!!"

"Johnny can't sing, Jimmy can't dance! We're gonna put some ANTS IN THEIR PANTS!"

Honestly, I'd take crazy ants over fire ants any day. When I was 13, my mom dragged me off to Florida. One day, I'd found I stepped into an ant mound, but didn't worry about it, because I was accustomed to the sugar ants we got in Oregon. Moments later, it felt like someone had doused my leg in lighter fluid and set it aflame. I ran to the swimming pool and plunged my leg in to dislodge the fire ants. When I told my mom, she said "oh, sorry. I guess I forgot to tell you about them,"

/CSB

Yup. My fire ant hatred is from Florida as well. Anything that kills or displaces those little demons is ok with me.


I dealt with them in SC and polite is not how I would describe them.  Sure if you run into their mound you will pay, but they have come into my bed at night.  Oh how I hated those things.  I took the fire right back to them.  Dump some gas into their mound and light it up.  I didn't do it for fun, I really just wanted to destroy them for good.
 
2013-05-17 06:41:53 PM  
Welcome to Texas - come for the near-slavery working conditions and lax regulations, stay for the crazy ants, crazy birthers, and crazy creationists.
 
2013-05-17 07:19:32 PM  
Ginkor, did you make that up?
 
2013-05-17 07:27:47 PM  
Here's a question for any myrmicologists paying attention to this thread:


Central Maryland, used to have some substantial (3-4' high) big black-ant mounds on the property 40 years ago. haven't seen them in a long while, as in decades.

Went walking around the property today, I found two new small-black-ant colonies starting up. One was where an apple tree died (and was cut up and hauled away,) the other is in the middle of the sand+gravel driveway where I spilled transmission fluid working on a car.

My question.... Is there some way they could be converting this to food? You don't set up anywhere you can't eat. It just seems like a very toxic environment, and it seems the worst place possible.
 
2013-05-17 07:42:11 PM  
IANAM
But both of those activities probably created lots of little tunnels underground for the ants to nest in.
 
2013-05-17 08:25:52 PM  

MythDragon: Otherwise known as a Florida Woods Roach. They don't scurry when you turn on the light. They walk over and turn it back off.


Pfft. The ones in Puerto Rico will fly up to the fixture and unscrew the bulb.
 
2013-05-17 09:06:57 PM  
...but their spread can be limited if people are careful...

The spread of the Tawny crazy ants may also be limited, even within the more hospitable climates, by caution from humans...

"...if people living in or visiting invaded areas are careful and check for the crazy ants when moving or going on longer trips..."


oh_wait_youre_serious_let_me_laugh_even_harder.jpg
 
2013-05-17 09:18:53 PM  
Every time I'm tempted to move somewhere where it stays warm all year, I read about the various insect species in that area. Then I decide it isn't all that bad staying where it gets cold enough in the winter to slow the insects down for at least a few months.
 
2013-05-17 09:45:40 PM  
FTA: The crazy ants were first discovered in the U.S. in 2002 by a pest control operator in a suburb of Houston

I worked CATV with a guy from Belize who identified these little f*ckers back in '95. In Dallas. They're difficult to distinguish visually from fire ants, but they move more quickly and they nest everyfreakinwhere. They removed thousands of feet of dielectric from inside both aerial and buried coaxial cable all over town. I had one span of aerial cable that was completely missing the dielectric from one pole to the next... I pulled the center conductor completely out of that span after I broke the connectors loose. The only plus side to them is that they don't sting.

/CSB
 
2013-05-17 09:49:17 PM  

happydude45: Yankees pronounce it "ahnt". Normal folks pronounce it as "ant"


East Coasters pronounce it "ahnt", West Coaster pronounce it "ant"

Don't know or care about those chumps in the middle.
 
2013-05-17 10:53:53 PM  

wombatsrus: Every time I'm tempted to move somewhere where it stays warm all year, I read about the various insect species in that area. Then I decide it isn't all that bad staying where it gets cold enough in the winter to slow the insects down for at least a few months.



Damn straight.  A winter coat, boots, shovel (not a spade..... an aluminum grain shovel works best for me) and mits cannot possibly sting, bite, crawl on you, drop in your mouth in your sleep, infest your food, etc. etc. etc.......

Now, it's getting late..... so whatever you farkers do, make sure you do Not read up on 'bacterial mats' or those little critters that crawl around in your eyelashes at night.......
 
2013-05-17 10:57:40 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Cerebral Knievel: Mr. Titanium: happydude45: Yankees pronounce it "ahnt". Normal folks pronounce it as "ant"

I mostly heard "ahnt" from Virginians.  I have never heard it in the midwest.

I am a Virginian

You are correct

I used to say "ant" but started using "ahnt" sometime in my teens. This site also says "ahnt" is mostly a NE thing (clicky):


I am a 1.84%er...I'm originally from that purplish pink dot area in central MO and I follow that pattern.
 
2013-05-18 10:12:19 AM  
I heard these ants are all female? Is that true?
 
2013-05-18 11:12:00 AM  

MBA Whore: Gink


Not a bit, and it is similar to a technique used to develop biological agents against many insects.  Basically to put hundreds of pounds of that particular insect in a stainless steel vat and squash them into pulp, then see if anything grows on it.  These microbial pesticides used to be done in the US, but have now been outsourced, mostly to central America but also to India.
 
2013-05-18 03:35:23 PM  

cursed monkey: I think I read that ants naturally promote certain molds in there food store areas that are anti-bacterial and help protect them from all the dead things they bring back...no source though...so I could be full of shiate.


Yep, and (if found in their area) they will collect antiseptic tree resins/leaves/whatever and make a doormat of them at their nest entrances. And then every ant wipes their feet as they come back into the nest. Neat stuff.
 
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