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(National Review)   Obama's Rose Parade of scandals: a crash course on the perils of big government   (nationalreview.com) divider line 13
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2013-05-17 09:11:18 AM
4 votes:
what scandals?

all I've heard about this week is trumped up bullshiat.
2013-05-17 09:15:59 AM
2 votes:
so many swirling accusations, I mean it's pretty clear that SOMETHING bad happened, it's not like people would just make shiat up in order to make the president look bad at any cost right
2013-05-17 08:50:35 AM
2 votes:
I wonder how personally responsible these same critics would find the CEO of a comparably-sized private corporation under comparable circumstances?
2013-05-17 11:01:31 AM
1 votes:

Nabb1:  I think that's largely why you see outrage from both parties about this issue.


The outrage is different on both sides.  I see lefties upset that the IRS isn't able to do its job because they don't have proper guidance from Congress and they're dealing with messed up rules to begin with, while the right seems to believe that Obama met these OH IRS agents in a parking lot at midnight wearing a trench coat and smoking a cigarette.

With that one relatively minor quibble, I am with you 100%.  The public's trust in the IRS must, must, must be rock solid.  It used to be, but decades of one political party preaching about how the government is completely ineffective at everything it does takes a toll.  I'm hopeful that this event can help spur someone with the power to break the logjam, but I'm not hopeful.
2013-05-17 11:01:07 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: of all people, David Axelrod made an argument for small government on wednesday:

Axelrod began "Part of being president is, there is so much beneath you that you can't know, because the government is so vast."

So, thanks, David Axelrod, for making the conservative case that "government is so vast" that it is impossible to make it competent and accountable in its current size.


• the government has gotten smaller under obama
• no matter how small it gets, it's still going to be 'vast' to the point that the president will never be able to know everything that's going on - we are a nation of 320,000,000 people, after all, and the world's largest economy

unless you're an anarchist. are you an anarchist?
2013-05-17 10:58:56 AM
1 votes:

FlashHarry: SlothB77: The executive of a company is responsible for everything all the way down to the lowest level employee and has to know what is going on the front lines.

bull. shiat.

it is literally impossible for a CEO (or a president) to know everything that's going on in every office in every city in every state in the country.


It's not for lack of trying.
Those pesky privacy rights tend to get in the way.  Damn them.

Maybe having unsupervised and unaccountable employees who run roughshod over the rights of others is a consequence of delving too deep into the governance of others.
A "peril of big government" if you will.
2013-05-17 10:58:26 AM
1 votes:

Poopspasm: SlothB77: The IRS suppressed and discriminated against Tea Partiers.  What penalties will that agency suffer as a result?  What incentive does it have to not do that again?

Now imagine a corporation did the same thing against a certain group of people.

I don't know that it's possible to penalize a government agency. What do you want to do, fine them so that they have to pay the treasury with taxpayer funds (which is exactly where those funds will wind up anyways)?

Better to fire the offending party or parties and get on with your life. If you don't share my opinion, lets hear yours.


that's the other problem.  even if they pay the aggrieved party, it just costs us taxpayers in the long run.  they are firing someone who is going to quit in a month anyways, so that is no penalty.  sarah ingram hall was rewarded for what she did.  government agencies can do this sort of thing and essentially get away with it.

i don't think wall street should have been bailed out either.  it is the same thing - getting away with something that is wrong - fraud, criminality, whatever.  what incentive does wall street have to not repeat the same mistakes they made last time?  we are just going to bail them out as too big to fail.  we let them fail, they won't make those mistakes again.

but we reward failure, we reward corruption and we assure ourselves plenty more of it.
2013-05-17 10:50:43 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: The IRS suppressed and discriminated against Tea Partiers.  What penalties will that agency suffer as a result?  What incentive does it have to not do that again?

Now imagine a corporation did the same thing against a certain group of people.


Like what?  A health insurance company?
2013-05-17 10:37:34 AM
1 votes:
Is this the thread where the hardcore Fark libs come to jerk each other off and console each other with their tasty Koolaid?  They all look so similar nowadays.
2013-05-17 09:51:24 AM
1 votes:
So some Tea Party groups claim to be a 'public welfare' non-profit to get out of paying taxes, get audited, but still ultimately get exempted?

As a tax paying citizen, those tax scamming Tea Party groups can kiss my white ass.
2013-05-17 09:50:15 AM
1 votes:

keylock71: SlothB77: The executive of a company is responsible for everything all the way down to the lowest level employee and has to know what is going on the front lines.

Lol. Oh man... You have no idea how large corporations work, do you?


Compare and contrast with ACORN...
2013-05-17 09:35:36 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: The executive of a company is responsible for everything all the way down to the lowest level employee and has to know what is going on the front lines.


Lol. Oh man... You have no idea how large corporations work, do you?
2013-05-17 09:32:20 AM
1 votes:

SlothB77: The executive of a company is responsible for everything all the way down to the lowest level employee and has to know what is going on the front lines.


bull. shiat.

it is literally impossible for a CEO (or a president) to know everything that's going on in every office in every city in every state in the country.
 
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