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(Telegraph)   Some country called France, that's largely part of the Eurozone crisis, tells another country called Britain, that is not part of the Eurozone crisis, that Europe can live without it   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 23
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2013-05-17 09:43:12 AM  
There's a lot of "harumphing" in the headline, but the quotes are pretty tame.  At this point I'd start asking why the British press is so sensitive to dry statements of general economic policy and concern.

Is it just because it's coming from the French?
 
2013-05-17 09:44:57 AM  
That didn't work when Napolean tried it
 
2013-05-17 09:50:18 AM  
"I hope Britain stays in the European Union but I don't want to decide for the British," he added.

Oh yeah, so controversial.  I'm sure the Brits won't take this lying down.
 
2013-05-17 09:54:56 AM  
Hehe, it's funny because the French and the English have been giving each other shiat since the fall of Rome.

Remember, American Farkers, we'd still be saying "God Save the Queen" if the French hadn't helped us in the Revolutionary War. It might not have been because they agreed with us, but more that it was a novel chance to fark with the English.
 
2013-05-17 09:56:36 AM  
To bad France did not say that in 1939.
 
2013-05-17 09:59:34 AM  

Rapmaster2000: There's a lot of "harumphing" in the headline, but the quotes are pretty tame.  At this point I'd start asking why the British press is so sensitive to dry statements of general economic policy and concern.

Is it just because it's coming from the French?


It's because it's the Daily Telegraph, the main mouthpiece of the Conservative party. It's the conservatives who are the most rabidly anti Europe, mainly because they think that it's still 1913 and the Britannia rules the waves and that Europe (both as a place and as a political institution) is full of smelly foreigners whose only goal in life is to drag Great Britain down (always pronounce with the emphasis of "Great") and preventing it from assuming its rightful place as a shining beacon of world freedom and prosperity.

Seriously, you should talk to some of these people, they are completely farking delusional. In their minds it's like the last 100 years never happened.
 
2013-05-17 10:07:41 AM  
i.telegraph.co.uk
With these hands, I shall massage the Euro zone into a silky smooth finish.

Pay no attention to our problems... enjoy this massage of misdirection... Look there...Britain... these are not the economic issues you are looking for.
couldthishappen.com
 
2013-05-17 10:08:08 AM  

praymantis: To bad France did not say that in 1939 1066.

 
2013-05-17 10:12:26 AM  
I am outraged that the French would dare to say whatever it is they said.  Not only shall I click on the link to the Telegraph, but I shall also purchase this issue, so as to have my outrage in printed form for posterity!
 
2013-05-17 11:26:33 AM  

Bad_Seed: Rapmaster2000: There's a lot of "harumphing" in the headline, but the quotes are pretty tame.  At this point I'd start asking why the British press is so sensitive to dry statements of general economic policy and concern.

Is it just because it's coming from the French?

It's because it's the Daily Telegraph, the main mouthpiece of the Conservative party. It's the conservatives who are the most rabidly anti Europe, mainly because they think that it's still 1913 and the Britannia rules the waves and that Europe (both as a place and as a political institution) is full of smelly foreigners whose only goal in life is to drag Great Britain down (always pronounce with the emphasis of "Great") and preventing it from assuming its rightful place as a shining beacon of world freedom and prosperity.

Seriously, you should talk to some of these people, they are completely farking delusional. In their minds it's like the last 100 years never happened.


According to an article I read in Le Figaro on the way home yesterday, the British political right want the UK to be freed of any obligations or responsibilities they might have towards the European Union or the other European states, but still be able to trade with the rest of the continent without having to pay import duties or deal with any of the other hassles one would otherwise encounter when trading outside the customs union.  Have their spotted dick and eat it too, basically.

/"Fog in channel; Continent cut off"
//and they say Americans are chauvinistic and self-centered
 
2013-05-17 11:48:12 AM  
Then, let's create a new government called the "United North Atlantic States."

Let's see, 50 here in the US. Another 10 provinces in Canada. Let's make them each states. Except for maybe Quebec. Prarie shiat, let them in anyway.

Then, in the UK-that's another 4 at least. Plus maybe Ireland. So 5.

So the UNAS will be 65 states.

66 if we decide to include Puerto Rico. Why not.

We welcome our English-speaking relatives back into the fold.
 
2013-05-17 11:50:05 AM  

imashark: Then, let's create a new government called the "United North Atlantic States."

Let's see, 50 here in the US. Another 10 provinces in Canada. Let's make them each states. Except for maybe Quebec. Prarie shiat, let them in anyway.

Then, in the UK-that's another 4 at least. Plus maybe Ireland. So 5.

So the UNAS will be 65 states.

66 if we decide to include Puerto Rico. Why not.

We welcome our English-speaking relatives back into the fold.


Let's get rid of some states while we're at it.

Do we really need Mississippi? Or Kentucky?
 
2013-05-17 11:56:34 AM  
Well, they're factually correct about the austerity measures. Cameron can't reverse course on them without committing political suicide, but I'm sure even he knows that. The evidence in the last couple years has become so definite that even the IMF is anti-austerity now. The IMF, for fark's sake.
 
2013-05-17 12:13:44 PM  
Back a few years ago in Europe:
Hey lets have all these countries use the same currency!
Awesome!! Better cross border trade and no need to deal with exchange rates.
Oh but what about those lazy lay about countries that will surely be a burden to the working countries?
Shhhhhhh. We will secretly whip them into shape to not cause an eventual meltdown.
Hey these mean old working countries are trying to make us work and cut costs. RIOT AND BURN EVERYTHING DOWN!!!!


/Those lazy red States of the U.S.A. are a burden too as they keep taking free cash from working States with their ancient style governments needing to be purged.
 
2013-05-17 12:23:32 PM  
Of course the EU can survive without Britain.

It'll just cost them as Britain is a net contributor to the EU budget.
 
2013-05-17 12:34:46 PM  

mainstreet62: Do we really need Mississippi? Or Kentucky?


Well, that is where the Fark servers are...
 
2013-05-17 12:42:09 PM  

sheep snorter: Back a few years ago in Europe:
Hey lets have all these countries use the same currency!
Awesome!! Better cross border trade and no need to deal with exchange rates.
Oh but what about those lazy lay about countries that will surely be a burden to the working countries?
Shhhhhhh. We will secretly whip them into shape to not cause an eventual meltdown.
Hey these mean old working countries are trying to make us work and cut costs. RIOT AND BURN EVERYTHING DOWN!!!!


/Those lazy red States of the U.S.A. are a burden too as they keep taking free cash from working States with their ancient style governments needing to be purged.


While normally I'd argue against such reductionism... I've been to Louisiana on a work trip and yes, they leave work at 4:30, take a two hour lunch, and generally work as though they are on the beach.  Same goes for lower California, they don't start work until at least 10:30 and leave at 4:30.

Us here in the Mid-West, work long and hard... Heck, I put in 12 hours at the mill each day.
 
2013-05-17 01:00:37 PM  
If England reverses course on Austerity, Germany will give up and leave the EU outright.

They're really the only two countries keeping the EU afloat right now, and England's not even part of the Euro.
 
2013-05-17 02:01:10 PM  

Bad_Seed: Rapmaster2000: There's a lot of "harumphing" in the headline, but the quotes are pretty tame.  At this point I'd start asking why the British press is so sensitive to dry statements of general economic policy and concern.

Is it just because it's coming from the French?

It's because it's the Daily Telegraph, the main mouthpiece of the Conservative party. It's the conservatives who are the most rabidly anti Europe, mainly because they think that it's still 1913 and the Britannia rules the waves and that Europe (both as a place and as a political institution) is full of smelly foreigners whose only goal in life is to drag Great Britain down (always pronounce with the emphasis of "Great") and preventing it from assuming its rightful place as a shining beacon of world freedom and prosperity.

Seriously, you should talk to some of these people, they are completely farking delusional. In their minds it's like the last 100 years never happened.


That same 100 years where the continent was a festering shiathole of war and racism and had to be bailed out by the British and her current and former colonies, twice? That 100 years?

/You're welcome for the Marshall plan
//Since it laid the groundwork for the last 50 years
 
2013-05-17 02:39:13 PM  

NostroZ: Same goes for lower California, they don't start work until at least 10:30 and leave at 4:30.


I hope that means Baja California or you're talking about government employees. Here in SoCal USA , I start work at 6:30am and frequently stay till 6.
 
2013-05-17 03:08:10 PM  
fark the Torygraph

That is all.
 
2013-05-18 01:55:35 AM  

jjorsett: NostroZ: Same goes for lower California, they don't start work until at least 10:30 and leave at 4:30.

I hope that means Baja California or you're talking about government employees. Here in SoCal USA , I start work at 6:30am and frequently stay till 6.


Good job refuting generalizations about a region with over ten million people with a personal anecdote.  You sure done told him.

/right-winger debate skills at their finest
 
2013-05-18 10:10:11 PM  

Robo Beat: According to an article I read in Le Figaro on the way home yesterday, the British political right want the UK to be freed of any obligations or responsibilities they might have towards the European Union or the other European states, but still be able to trade with the rest of the continent without having to pay import duties or deal with any of the other hassles one would otherwise encounter when trading outside the customs union.  Have their spotted dick and eat it too, basically.


I think I see where the problem is...

That's called a free trade agreement. What is wrong with that?. They want a free trade area just as many other countries around the world, including the US, have. Free trade both ways. That includes EU countries being able to export to the UK.
The US and Canada have NAAFTA without being in a political union. Is that "having their spotted dick and eating it"?

And many British people "want the UK to be freed of any obligations or responsibilities they might have towards the European Union" by leaving the EU.  If you leave an organisation then obviously you are free from obligations of membership. Again, what is bad about that? You make it sound like some devious underhanded scheme.  If you cancelled your membership of a gym you'd want to stop paying your monthly dues, right? If that gym allowed non members to use their equipment on a pay per hour basis then would it be wrong to cancel your monthly membership and use the pay per hour the same way as anyone else does?

The US, Japan, China and a hundred other countries trade with the EU without belonging to the EU. Why shouldn't the UK be able to do the same?
 
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