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2013-05-16 09:58:51 PM  
If you ever want to know what it's like to be insane, smoke a bunch of PCP.  The good news is you'll probably be less crazy when it wears off, the bad news is that you'll have to deal with the consequences of what you did while out of your mind.
 
2013-05-16 11:54:28 PM  
Wasn't this a Kurt Russel and Baldwin brother film?
 
2013-05-17 12:28:07 AM  
My bad.
 
2013-05-17 03:21:30 AM  
How about just not take PCP.
 
2013-05-17 03:30:02 AM  
I feel sorry for his friend. Shot between the eyes and in critical condition. Even if he makes it, I doubt he'll function.
 
2013-05-17 03:31:16 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

RIP PCP-Fueled Solomon
 
2013-05-17 03:36:25 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: How about just not take PCP.


Don't tell me how to party!
 
2013-05-17 03:43:53 AM  
So, gun thread or dope thread or both?
 
2013-05-17 03:44:05 AM  
This reminds me of my all-time favorite fark headline:

What would Jesus do?  Mace your naked ass!

The responding officer to a PCP freakout was named Jesus.  As a bonus the guy rubbed the mace into his face, like your mom at a bukkake, licked his fingers and said it tasted like water.  Then he jumped out if a 6 or 8 story window and landed on a canopy like a frickin cartoon character.  Only suffered a broken leg if I remember correctly.

If some ones got mad FARK searching skills and can find that link or article I would love to reread it again.
 
2013-05-17 03:51:20 AM  
Is this a story about Toronto mayor Rob Ford?
 
2013-05-17 03:52:36 AM  

NFA: If you ever want to know what it's like to be insane, smoke a bunch of PCP.  The good news is you'll probably be less crazy when it wears off, the bad news is that you'll have to deal with the consequences of what you did while out of your mind.


Out of curiosity, have you ever taken PCP? I know this is Fark, but I'm asking this seriously and without any intent of rudeness or trolling. Different drugs can have very different effects on people and even similar experiences can be pleasant for some and cause others to freak out. From my own subjective experience, many dissociatives in large amounts (PCP, DXM, ketamine, and MXE in particular) can bring about a state of mind were there no longer seems to be any boundary between the conscious and subconscious mind. Such a state can be ecstatic, terrifying, or even both at the same time. What can be dangerous about PCP (and to a certain degree MXE) is that it isn't nearly as sedating as other dissociatives and someone freaking out (I suspect most PCP freakouts are from people either taking way too much or from people taking large amounts without knowing they are, like when someone smokes a bunch of "dusted" weed without being aware of it) might react physically and also not be able feel pain. This also isn't necessarily unique to PCP - with frequent heavy usage even DXM will lose some of its sedative qualities while still resulting in a heavy trip. A substance more likely to inherently cause extreme confusion and result in psychotic behavior would be something like datura, which occurs naturally and is legal in most areas.
 
2013-05-17 03:57:21 AM  
i guess i'll comment as a once or twice a year PCP user. it's everything coke and MDMA are until you go over the line. you do feel your mind seperating from your body, you can see yourself do shiat you would never do. no control over it.
 
2013-05-17 04:14:51 AM  
www.troll.me
 
2013-05-17 04:21:22 AM  
I know when I'm about to take PCP I always make sure my gun is nearby. Just to be safe.
 
2013-05-17 04:21:57 AM  
Damn dad. I knew you should not go drinking tonight
 
2013-05-17 04:24:45 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Wasn't this a Kurt Russel and Baldwin brother film?


No, this was an Ice Cube Chris Tucker homies film...

NSFW language Link
 
2013-05-17 04:31:38 AM  
LOL...
San Francisco Police State University

"he's not resisting!!! he's not resisting!!"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ae_1368771881

FYI. volume DOWN
 
2013-05-17 04:34:45 AM  
He shoulda hid in Debo's chicken coop.
 
2013-05-17 04:36:10 AM  
Bah Humbug.
 
2013-05-17 04:59:38 AM  
The 10-minute rant by Mohamed Sulaiman Bah, 24,

A) Where is the Muslim outrage?
B) Why hasn't Obama called this a terror attack?
C) Religion of Peace my ASS
D) All of the above
 
2013-05-17 05:14:12 AM  
I watched the video and I wonder what their plan was when they raised the ladder.  Don't know if they were trying to get him to jump or knock him off.
 
2013-05-17 05:14:28 AM  

you are a puppet: Sulaiman


Hmmm... Where have I heard that name before? I know!

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-17 05:32:28 AM  
"Bah, who was in the front passenger seat, turned toward the victim, sitting directly behind him. The driver said he heard a single gunshot. Police said the victim was struck once in the forehead"

Should've called the Wolf.
 
2013-05-17 05:58:13 AM  

NFA: If you ever want to know what it's like to be insane, smoke a bunch of PCP.  The good news is you'll probably be less crazy when it wears off, the bad news is that you'll have to deal with the consequences of what you did while out of your mind.


Yeah, this.

My best friend's mom used to be a social worker; she once saw a guy on PCP rip the door off a cop car and throw it. I think that was the night she quit.
 
2013-05-17 06:10:04 AM  
Was it HellaRandyBachman, cuz I could totally see that happening.
 
2013-05-17 06:25:05 AM  

Walter Paisley: Out of curiosity, have you ever taken PCP? I know this is Fark, but I'm asking this seriously and without any intent of rudeness or trolling. Different drugs can have very different effects on people and even similar experiences can be pleasant for some and cause others to freak out. From my own subjective experience, many dissociatives in large amounts (PCP, DXM, ketamine, and MXE in particular) can bring about a state of mind were there no longer seems to be any boundary between the conscious and subconscious mind. Such a state can be ecstatic, terrifying, or even both at the same time. What can be dangerous about PCP (and to a certain degree MXE) is that it isn't nearly as sedating as other dissociatives and someone freaking out (I suspect most PCP freakouts are from people either taking way too much or from people taking large amounts without knowing they are, like when someone smokes a bunch of "dusted" weed without being aware of it) might react physically and also not be able feel pain. This also isn't necessarily unique to PCP - with frequent heavy usage even DXM will lose some of its sedative qualities while still resulting in a heavy trip. A substance more likely to inherently cause extreme confusion and result in psychotic behavior would be something like datura, which occurs naturally and is legal in most areas.


It'll probably turn out that this guy wan't on PCP.

K was interesting but not *that* interesting. Was sorta tempted by DXM but never went there. The dissociative state with K seemed to be verging more towards delerium than psychedelic, though I did have a few interesting conversations with my hands.

Diphenidine seems to be the next thing that's going to hit, as a quasi-legal dissociative. Watch for it in the news. It'll get blamed for something before long.
 
2013-05-17 06:31:20 AM  

nburghmatt: i guess i'll comment as a once or twice a year PCP user. it's everything coke and MDMA are until you go over the line. you do feel your mind seperating from your body, you can see yourself do shiat you would never do. no control over it.


...and then you eat your son's eyes.

The sort of weird and really sick stuff that happens to other people as a result of someone's PCP use makes me think people should really stick to getting their shiats and giggles using something else. Your jollies do not trump someone else's right to have eyes.
 
2013-05-17 07:23:03 AM  
a hook and ladder truck?

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-17 08:00:08 AM  
yeah, it's always like, 'man takes PCP, shots guy in the head'

how come we never hear all those stories about the times the guy takes PCP, bakes cookies, holds fund-raiser for local children's hospital

/damn you, biased media
 
2013-05-17 08:12:59 AM  

Nidiot: nburghmatt: i guess i'll comment as a once or twice a year PCP user. it's everything coke and MDMA are until you go over the line. you do feel your mind seperating from your body, you can see yourself do shiat you would never do. no control over it.

...and then you eat your son's eyes.

The sort of weird and really sick stuff that happens to other people as a result of someone's PCP use makes me think people should really stick to getting their shiats and giggles using something else. Your jollies do not trump someone else's right to have eyes.


Of all the things I wish would just...disappear...that story is among those at the very top.
 
2013-05-17 08:23:08 AM  

nburghmatt: i guess i'll comment as a once or twice a year PCP user. it's everything coke and MDMA are until you go over the line. you do feel your mind seperating from your body, you can see yourself do shiat you would never do. no control over it.


That was actually kind of interesting. Thanks.
 
2013-05-17 08:25:29 AM  
What's his FARK handle?

/sounds like Thursday afternoon around here
 
2013-05-17 08:26:09 AM  

Gothnet: Walter Paisley: Out of curiosity, have you ever taken PCP? I know this is Fark, but I'm asking this seriously and without any intent of rudeness or trolling. Different drugs can have very different effects on people and even similar experiences can be pleasant for some and cause others to freak out. From my own subjective experience, many dissociatives in large amounts (PCP, DXM, ketamine, and MXE in particular) can bring about a state of mind were there no longer seems to be any boundary between the conscious and subconscious mind. Such a state can be ecstatic, terrifying, or even both at the same time. What can be dangerous about PCP (and to a certain degree MXE) is that it isn't nearly as sedating as other dissociatives and someone freaking out (I suspect most PCP freakouts are from people either taking way too much or from people taking large amounts without knowing they are, like when someone smokes a bunch of "dusted" weed without being aware of it) might react physically and also not be able feel pain. This also isn't necessarily unique to PCP - with frequent heavy usage even DXM will lose some of its sedative qualities while still resulting in a heavy trip. A substance more likely to inherently cause extreme confusion and result in psychotic behavior would be something like datura, which occurs naturally and is legal in most areas.

It'll probably turn out that this guy wan't on PCP.

K was interesting but not *that* interesting. Was sorta tempted by DXM but never went there. The dissociative state with K seemed to be verging more towards delerium than psychedelic, though I did have a few interesting conversations with my hands.

Diphenidine seems to be the next thing that's going to hit, as a quasi-legal dissociative. Watch for it in the news. It'll get blamed for something before long.


No hesitation
No delay
You come on just like Special K
Just like I swallowed half my stash
And never, ever wanna crash
 
2013-05-17 08:37:20 AM  
Nice to hear from yet another drug user / gun owner.  You know there's reasons why the rest of us continue to demonize those and until you fix the crazy outliers we'll continue to do so.  So fix your crazies, drug & gun enthusiasts.  Then we can talk like adults.
 
2013-05-17 08:43:16 AM  
You know what would have been better?
 
2013-05-17 08:44:13 AM  

Broktun: You know what would have been better?


Let me finish my thought.

A bullet to the the head instead of a taser.

More taxpayer monies down the drain.
 
2013-05-17 08:50:01 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-05-17 09:12:57 AM  
Some folks just don't get it like Subby here....to use the Aristocrats, it has to be a family affair
 
2013-05-17 09:18:10 AM  
PCP is straight up insanity. I have no idea why anyone does this drug.

/Bath salts are the new PCP
 
2013-05-17 09:25:17 AM  

Spaced Lion: My best friend's mom used to be a social worker; she once saw a guy on PCP rip the door off a cop car and throw it. I think that was the night she quit.


A friend of mine who was a cop in L.A. once had a guy on PCP rip a toilet out of the floor and throw it at him. That is some scary, scary shiat.

Also -- Calverton? I'd have expected something like this to happen *inside* the Beltway.
 
2013-05-17 09:57:27 AM  

RidersOfLohan: LOL...
San Francisco Police State University

"he's not resisting!!! he's not resisting!!"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ae_1368771881

FYI. volume DOWN


She sounds like every teen aged girl I've ever heard. There would have been two tazed that night if I were there.

Noooooo, you don't understanddddddddd. Stoppppppppppppp
 
2013-05-17 11:32:00 AM  
i105.photobucket.com
Y'all biscuitheads.
 
2013-05-17 12:00:06 PM  
I'm hearing Edwin Starr's WAR in my head but instead of  War! ... it's  PCP!
 
2013-05-17 12:18:21 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: PCP is straight up insanity. I have no idea why anyone does this drug.

/Bath salts are the new PCP



If this stuff happened every time, I doubt anyone would buy it. There must be a fun side to it, but it clearly has a potential to go horribly wrong.

Bath salts... bath salts are an artifact of prohibition. Any combination of nasty quasi-legal stimulants, some of which are highly potent in the low milligram range. Would anyone bother with these if they could get less harmful stuff in measured doses? I'm betting no. Hell, we could even research things that give you a buzz without killing you or making you crazy, wouldn't that be novel?
 
2013-05-17 03:20:54 PM  
If I've even in an armed standoff with the police or in a situation where I have to fight two UFC champions in a bare knuckle match ....I'm getting dusted as shiat before it goes down. I might actually win.
 
2013-05-17 07:24:27 PM  

Gothnet: Fuggin Bizzy: PCP is straight up insanity. I have no idea why anyone does this drug.

/Bath salts are the new PCP


If this stuff happened every time, I doubt anyone would buy it. There must be a fun side to it, but it clearly has a potential to go horribly wrong.

Bath salts... bath salts are an artifact of prohibition. Any combination of nasty quasi-legal stimulants, some of which are highly potent in the low milligram range. Would anyone bother with these if they could get less harmful stuff in measured doses? I'm betting no. Hell, we could even research things that give you a buzz without killing you or making you crazy, wouldn't that be novel?


I'd definitely prefer they made some non-harmful stuff legal as an outlet for those who wish to use it. PCP would not be on that list, there has to be something else that is fun without having the side effect of turning you into a lethal idiot. I think people have a right to do as they wish to themselves, but not if it means a heightened risk of harming others.
 
2013-05-17 07:51:13 PM  

Nidiot: I'd definitely prefer they made some non-harmful stuff legal as an outlet for those who wish to use it. PCP would not be on that list, there has to be something else that is fun without having the side effect of turning you into a lethal idiot. I think people have a right to do as they wish to themselves, but not if it means a heightened risk of harming others.


The difficulty would be defining non-harmful. It's kind of how like some people are funny, playful, or sappy drunks and others are violent, paranoid, or perverted drunks. Even under similar effects, someone's mind (beliefs, values, fears, fantasies, temperament, etc...) plays a big factor in how the effects manifest. In a way, a drug's effects are a sort of filter for the mind. I've even been around people who got aggressive and even violent when just smoking pot. When the question comes up of why people use PCP when there are all these horror stories, it's because there are many people having positive experiences on it that don't get reported in the media. As I mentioned in my previous post in this thread, the scary stories regarding people on PCP are likely from people massively overdosing (the dosage for even a heavy trip is very small - I've been aware of cases when PCP in powdered form has been passed off as mescaline, which is incredibly dangerous because the dosage for mescaline is MUCH higher than PCP) or people freaking out because they weren't aware they were taking it at all (as in buying PCP and thinking it is something else, taking another drug cut with PCP, or smoking something "dusted" without knowing so). For the record, you can legally (in most areas) buy kits to test for PCP in other substances.
 
2013-05-17 08:11:33 PM  

Gothnet: Walter Paisley: Out of curiosity, have you ever taken PCP? I know this is Fark, but I'm asking this seriously and without any intent of rudeness or trolling. Different drugs can have very different effects on people and even similar experiences can be pleasant for some and cause others to freak out. From my own subjective experience, many dissociatives in large amounts (PCP, DXM, ketamine, and MXE in particular) can bring about a state of mind were there no longer seems to be any boundary between the conscious and subconscious mind. Such a state can be ecstatic, terrifying, or even both at the same time. What can be dangerous about PCP (and to a certain degree MXE) is that it isn't nearly as sedating as other dissociatives and someone freaking out (I suspect most PCP freakouts are from people either taking way too much or from people taking large amounts without knowing they are, like when someone smokes a bunch of "dusted" weed without being aware of it) might react physically and also not be able feel pain. This also isn't necessarily unique to PCP - with frequent heavy usage even DXM will lose some of its sedative qualities while still resulting in a heavy trip. A substance more likely to inherently cause extreme confusion and result in psychotic behavior would be something like datura, which occurs naturally and is legal in most areas.

It'll probably turn out that this guy wan't on PCP.

K was interesting but not *that* interesting. Was sorta tempted by DXM but never went there. The dissociative state with K seemed to be verging more towards delerium than psychedelic, though I did have a few interesting conversations with my hands.

Diphenidine seems to be the next thing that's going to hit, as a quasi-legal dissociative. Watch for it in the news. It'll get blamed for something before long.


I've had some very bizarre experiences in k-holes, including one where I was viewing a space ship landing on a planet in which Cthulhu was almost omnipotent through being embedded into the atmosphere. Another involved seeing a carnival in which all the patrons were animated corpses and in one of the tents there were corpse-people violently executing the living, putting their bodies back together, and then bringing them back to life as living corpses.

As for DXM, in the higher end of the 4th plateau, you may experience even more delerium than with ketamine. The intensity of the open-eyed visuals in such a state may also be inherently frightening to some people. It's not uncommon to experience something like a light fixture turning into a face and smiling at you.

Also, if you ever get the chance and have the inclination to do so, try a combination of psychedelics and dissociatives. Mixing high dosages of DXM, LSD, and mescaline is amazing, though probably not for those seeking a casual trip.

Thanks for the heads up on Diphenidine; I wasn't familiar with it. I'm very curious to try Tiletamine, but I don't have a way to get a hold of any.
 
2013-05-18 01:23:08 AM  

Walter Paisley: The difficulty would be defining non-harmful.


Not that difficult. Things don't render you inclined to either shoot your best friend between the eyes, eat a vagrant's face off, eat your child's eyeballs etc will do. Basically anything that has the potential of turning people into unstoppable reason deprived maniacs who kill and/or maim others. Want to kill or maim yourself, I don't care, it's your life and you can assess the risks and make your choices. The victims who get attacked by people who go psycho on these drugs, gets no such choice.

Yeah drunks can get pretty violent also, no excusing them either. But really, really depraved stuff gets done by people on PCP or Bath Salts, and importantly, because of some of the effects of the drugs, they seem to be that much harder to stop by anyone wishing to save the victim.

The people losing their life, face, or body parts, probably don't really care how many people are having a swell old non-violent time on the stuff. It's like having a dodgy fairground ride, which malfunctions and kills the occasional person walking past the fairground, who weren't even on the ride in the first place. But as long as most people on the ride had a good time it's still considered all okay. Not the way I look at it. It's not like cars, which kill people in road accidents, cars being somewhat of a necessity in this day and age, taking something purely for amusement is not a necessity. You have the right to pursue happiness, but not at the expense of others.
 
2013-05-18 02:57:10 AM  

Nidiot: Walter Paisley: The difficulty would be defining non-harmful.

Not that difficult. Things don't render you inclined to either shoot your best friend between the eyes, eat a vagrant's face off, eat your child's eyeballs etc will do. Basically anything that has the potential of turning people into unstoppable reason deprived maniacs who kill and/or maim others. Want to kill or maim yourself, I don't care, it's your life and you can assess the risks and make your choices. The victims who get attacked by people who go psycho on these drugs, gets no such choice.

Yeah drunks can get pretty violent also, no excusing them either. But really, really depraved stuff gets done by people on PCP or Bath Salts, and importantly, because of some of the effects of the drugs, they seem to be that much harder to stop by anyone wishing to save the victim.

The people losing their life, face, or body parts, probably don't really care how many people are having a swell old non-violent time on the stuff. It's like having a dodgy fairground ride, which malfunctions and kills the occasional person walking past the fairground, who weren't even on the ride in the first place. But as long as most people on the ride had a good time it's still considered all okay. Not the way I look at it. It's not like cars, which kill people in road accidents, cars being somewhat of a necessity in this day and age, taking something purely for amusement is not a necessity. You have the right to pursue happiness, but not at the expense of others.


I see where you're coming from but I think the priorities of your argument are somewhat misplaced. Consider this from an aspect of numbers: even with the occasional news story of someone doing something crazy on PCP, how do the numbers of these stories compare to the number of people using PCP at any given time? How many people use PCP and continue using PCP because they are having a positive experience? The number of PCP-related crime incidents vs. total users is likely very low compared to that of something like alcohol. There are also plenty of stories of people killing and maiming one another or themselves while under the influence of alcohol.

Another factor to consider when analyzing a PCP horror story reported in the media is that simply saying someone took PCP is incredibly vague. How much did this person take? Did they verify that the person actually took PCP? Part of the problems associated with PCP are similar to those of any illegal drug in that the real problems (misinformation as to dosage or even being unaware of which drug someone is actually taking) are increased by prohibition. As I have pointed out in my earlier posts, most of these violent freak-out stories are likely from people massively overdosing.

I wouldn't recommend PCP to most people (at least not a heavy trip), but I also wouldn't suggest heavy trips on dissociatives or psychedelics to many people unless they were specifically interested in something more than a casual trip or have at least had some sort of experience with similar substances. Personally, the most bizarre behavior I've exhibited under the influence of drugs was with opiates, alcohol, weed, or some combination of the three (and add in the factors of being young and reckless). When I was younger I also did extremely irresponsible things like going to work or school while tripping, and sometimes even on PCP. I never did anything violent or crazy while tripping, but that also comes down to people reacting differently to the same substances.
 
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