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(Denver Channel)   After a night of drinking, woman successfully shows how her brand new assault rifle works. Since you're reading this on Fark, you can predict what happened   (thedenverchannel.com) divider line 283
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2013-05-16 11:26:08 PM
Basic firearms instruction anyone?
 
2013-05-16 11:50:37 PM

mtlls: Basic firearms instruction anyone?


Well, she taught her friends a lesson.
 
2013-05-16 11:58:49 PM
There is no such thing as an assault rifle.
 
2013-05-17 12:06:49 AM
oi39.tinypic.com
 
2013-05-17 12:11:23 AM
i369.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-17 12:24:50 AM
She disassembled, cleaned, and re-assembled the weapon in record time?
 
2013-05-17 01:31:02 AM
He fixes the cable?
 
2013-05-17 01:31:24 AM
She argued pointlessly for hours about gun control with other people who have already made up their minds?
 
2013-05-17 01:31:33 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


oh good then I guess that makes her alive then.
 
2013-05-17 01:34:43 AM
FTA: Anastasia Adair, a new an ex gun enthusiast, went upstairs to a bedroom get her recently purchased assault rifle

FTFM
 
2013-05-17 01:35:05 AM
from the picture I can tell we didn't lose anyone important.
 
2013-05-17 01:35:21 AM
I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.
 
2013-05-17 01:35:35 AM
It is such a rare occasion that stories such as these are discussed in public forums. Shocked and enlightened by the novelty of awareness am I. *languished Rennaisance dude*
 
2013-05-17 01:35:41 AM
She fixed the cable?
 
2013-05-17 01:35:54 AM
OBUMMER CAME TO TAKE HER GUN!!
/did I get it right
 
2013-05-17 01:36:26 AM

valkore: He fixes the cable?


fark. should have posted faster
 
2013-05-17 01:37:17 AM
So much stupid all in one place.
 
2013-05-17 01:37:47 AM
it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Might as well get this /oblig out of the way:

blog.robballen.com
 
2013-05-17 01:38:21 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


Um...yes there is.   Assault weapons might be up for debate, but assault rifles are most definitely a thing.
 
2013-05-17 01:38:26 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


Just like there's no such thing as a hunting knife.
 
2013-05-17 01:38:45 AM
Yes! Gun debate! I'm looking forward to changing peoples' minds on this issue.
 
2013-05-17 01:38:54 AM
She put the ass in assault rifle....
 
2013-05-17 01:40:01 AM

Aeonite: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Just like there's no such thing as a hunting knife.


Or a soup spoon.
 
2013-05-17 01:40:34 AM

sethen320: Yes! Gun debate! I'm looking forward to changing peoples' minds on this issue.



What debate?

Stupid people with guns = Darwin Award!
 
2013-05-17 01:40:56 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


"911"
"HELP MY WIFE SHOT HERSELF IN THE HEAD WITH HER ASSAULT RIFLE!"
"sir that's impossible, there is no such thing as an assault rifle"
"you hear that honey? everything will be okay"
"yey*wharrblgrbl*"
 
2013-05-17 01:41:21 AM
So, the party ended with a bang?
 
2013-05-17 01:41:27 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: [oi39.tinypic.com image 300x362]


The article didn't mention if they had kids, so maybe Darwin missed this one.
 
2013-05-17 01:41:38 AM
Poor woman. Getting drunk can really make you do wacky things. Deadly weapons shouldn't be easily accessible, especially by drunk people.
 
2013-05-17 01:42:04 AM
Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.
 
2013-05-17 01:42:05 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


Really? Because Webster's Dictionary would tend to disagree with you:

assault rifle  noun: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use

And you wonder why you people are called "gun nuts." Hint: it's because you deny reality in regard to anything that has to do with regulating your precious.
 
2013-05-17 01:42:53 AM

GungFu: sethen320: Yes! Gun debate! I'm looking forward to changing peoples' minds on this issue.


What debate?

Stupid people with guns = Darwin Award!


Oh, its coming. It always does when theres a gun in the story.
 
2013-05-17 01:43:38 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


More like because the gun related deaths per 100000 people in the UK is .20 versus more than ten times that in the US.

But, you know, again. Reality.
 
2013-05-17 01:43:38 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


see previous:

GungFu: sethen320: Yes! Gun debate! I'm looking forward to changing peoples' minds on this issue.

What debate?

Stupid people with guns = Darwin Award!

 
2013-05-17 01:44:10 AM

cameroncrazy1984: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Really? Because Webster's Dictionary would tend to disagree with you:

assault rifle  noun: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use

And you wonder why you people are called "gun nuts." Hint: it's because you deny reality in regard to anything that has to do with regulating your precious.


And it starts.
 
2013-05-17 01:44:16 AM

GreenSun: Poor woman. Getting drunk can really make you do wacky things. Deadly weapons shouldn't be easily accessible, especially by drunk people.


That's why I decided not to get an assault weapon.  I drink waaay too much.
 
2013-05-17 01:44:34 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Really? Because Webster's Dictionary would tend to disagree with you:

assault rifle  noun: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use

And you wonder why you people are called "gun nuts." Hint: it's because you deny reality in regard to anything that has to do with regulating your precious.

And it starts.


Yep. Thank the gun nuts for that one.
 
2013-05-17 01:45:09 AM

Billy Bathsalt: GreenSun: Poor woman. Getting drunk can really make you do wacky things. Deadly weapons shouldn't be easily accessible, especially by drunk people.

That's why I decided not to get an assault weapon.  I drink waaay too much.


I'm sorry, I'm told there's no such thing as an assault weapon. Or drinking too much.
 
2013-05-17 01:46:27 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

More like because the gun related deaths per 100000 people in the UK is .20 versus more than ten times that in the US.

But, you know, again. Reality.


So the fark what? Go live in the damn UK. Your chances of getting shot in the U.S. are still farking are pretty damn remote. Stop being scared all of the time.
 
2013-05-17 01:46:56 AM
Only cops should have guns.
 
2013-05-17 01:47:18 AM
I think I'm becoming de-sensitized to self-inflicted gun violence caused by stupidity (thanks, Fark!) but this in the sidebar was pretty damn disturbing:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/colorado-springs-area/naked-aut is tic-boy-found-in-colorado-springs-home-with-dead-rats-human-feces

*sigh*
 
2013-05-17 01:47:29 AM

the_chief: Only cops should have guns.


And donuts.
 
2013-05-17 01:48:29 AM

sethen320: So the fark what? Go live in the damn UK. Your chances of getting shot in the U.S. are still farking are pretty damn remote. Stop being scared all of the time.


Who says I'm scared? I just figured you'd want to live in a society which isn't the most violent country in the developed world. But hey, not all of us can be civilized.

And I did live in the UK for awhile. Even in the bad neighborhoods I never felt like I could be shot. Unlike whenever I visit Bed-Stuy.
 
2013-05-17 01:49:13 AM

the_chief: Only cops should have guns.


Hell, in the UK the cops don't even have guns. And you know what? They shoot up a lot fewer random Honda Ridgelines, that's for damn sure.
 
2013-05-17 01:49:40 AM

cameroncrazy1984: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Really? Because Webster's Dictionary would tend to disagree with you:

assault rifle  noun: any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use


Websters has already been discredited:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-17 01:50:23 AM
What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?
 
2013-05-17 01:50:53 AM
In order for that to happen

1. atrocious firearms handling
2. really crappy AK build (guns should never go bang simply because you drop them).
 
2013-05-17 01:50:59 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


It's a term people use. They must say it to mean something, right? Ah any rate whatever you prefer to call that thing you have to admit it played a very important role in the assault that occurred.
 
2013-05-17 01:51:32 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: So the fark what? Go live in the damn UK. Your chances of getting shot in the U.S. are still farking are pretty damn remote. Stop being scared all of the time.

Who says I'm scared? I just figured you'd want to live in a society which isn't the most violent country in the developed world. But hey, not all of us can be civilized.

And I did live in the UK for awhile. Even in the bad neighborhoods I never felt like I could be shot. Unlike whenever I visit Bed-Stuy.


Funny. I live in the U.S. and I have never worried about being shot either. Must be you.

Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.
 
2013-05-17 01:51:33 AM
Can we cover "there's no such thing as a pit bull" in this thread too?
 
2013-05-17 01:52:21 AM

cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?


Um sure. Whatever works for you.
 
2013-05-17 01:52:31 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


Apparently there's no such thing as a responsible gun owner.
 
2013-05-17 01:52:53 AM

sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.


Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.
 
2013-05-17 01:53:34 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?

Um sure. Whatever works for you.


That's what I thought. You're so in love with your guns that you just don't want to expend the effort to make America truly exceptional in the world.
 
2013-05-17 01:53:40 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.

Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.


Full disclosure: yes, pre 1996.
 
2013-05-17 01:54:24 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?

Um sure. Whatever works for you.

That's what I thought. You're so in love with your guns that you just don't want to expend the effort to make America truly exceptional in the world.


Yes. You have me figured out completely. You must be psychic.
 
2013-05-17 01:54:32 AM
She looks kinda like my ex. Kinda wish she'd "mishandle" a firearm as well.
 
2013-05-17 01:54:40 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.

Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

Full disclosure: yes, pre 1996.


So then your anecdote actually discredits your position.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:17 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?

Um sure. Whatever works for you.

That's what I thought. You're so in love with your guns that you just don't want to expend the effort to make America truly exceptional in the world.

Yes. You have me figured out completely. You must be psychic.


Well you're not exactly hard to read, pookie.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:39 AM

fusillade762: MaudlinMutantMollusk: [oi39.tinypic.com image 300x362]

The article didn't mention if they had kids, so maybe Darwin missed this one.


As long as they still had the potential to reproduce, it's a Darwin Nguyen.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:40 AM
I'm done with arguing gun control with you assholes, I just rate these stories now.This story made me lulz out loud. LOL!5 out of 7 AKs.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:49 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.


That makes it a must've? You've never hit a 2-outer on the river?
 
2013-05-17 01:56:14 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.

Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

Full disclosure: yes, pre 1996.

So then your anecdote actually discredits your position.


No. I still haven't feared being shot in the U.S.

Is this really that difficult?
 
2013-05-17 01:56:27 AM
Live by the DERP, Die by the DERP.
 
2013-05-17 01:56:38 AM

awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

That makes it a must've? You've never hit a 2-outer on the river?


Let's just say I knew my odds
 
2013-05-17 01:56:58 AM

sethen320: Is this really that difficult?


cc86 is among the largest fountains of derp on the website. Surely you know that by now.
 
2013-05-17 01:57:23 AM

sethen320: No. I still haven't feared being shot in the U.S.

Is this really that difficult?


Yes. I'm wondering why you even brought up the Australian thing. Were you afraid of being shot in Australia pre gun-ban? Would you be afraid of being shot there now?
 
2013-05-17 01:57:40 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.

Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

Full disclosure: yes, pre 1996.

So then your anecdote actually discredits your position.


Ah..I think we had a misunderstanding...
I didn't live there past 1990 so I wouldn't know anything of 1996+.
 
2013-05-17 01:57:49 AM

awalkingecho: sethen320: Is this really that difficult?

cc84 is among the largest fountains of derp on the website. Surely you know that by now.


FTFM
 
2013-05-17 01:57:58 AM

awalkingecho: sethen320: Is this really that difficult?

cc86 is among the largest fountains of derp on the website. Surely you know that by now.


Coming from you, that's a great compliment. You really know your derp!
 
2013-05-17 01:58:18 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?

Um sure. Whatever works for you.

That's what I thought. You're so in love with your guns that you just don't want to expend the effort to make America truly exceptional in the world.

Yes. You have me figured out completely. You must be psychic.

Well you're not exactly hard to read, pookie.


Your sarcasm meter is broken.
 
2013-05-17 01:58:18 AM
The type of gun is irrelevant. Any gun with the safety off and a round in the chamber will go off if the trigger is pulled. Same old worthless argument.

/gun should have been stored safely. Should not have been handled by drunk people with a round in the chamber AND the safety off.

/RIP young lady and condolences to husband, family and friends.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:01 AM

awalkingecho: sethen320: Is this really that difficult?

cc86 is among the largest fountains of derp on the website. Surely you know that by now.


I do now.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:52 AM

sethen320: I do now.


That's not to say he's not a great guy, of course. Gun threads and middle east threads are always a hoot though.
 
2013-05-17 02:00:26 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.

Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

Full disclosure: yes, pre 1996.

So then your anecdote actually discredits your position.

Ah..I think we had a misunderstanding...
I didn't live there past 1990 so I wouldn't know anything of 1996+.


Let me bring you up to speed:

Australia used to have a gun violence problem.
Mass shooting happens in 1996.
They ban a bunch of different types of guns.
They've had 1 in the intervening 17 years.

US has a number of mass shootings in the 2000s
We don't do anything
We continue to have mass shootings at a rate of several per year.

Do you understand this now? Does it make sense to you now?
 
2013-05-17 02:00:36 AM
Am I the only one that finds the eyewitness stories less than credible?
 
2013-05-17 02:00:53 AM

squibbits: The type of gun is irrelevant. Any gun with the safety off and a round in the chamber will go off if the trigger is pulled. Same old worthless argument.

/gun should have been stored safely. Should not have been handled by drunk people with a round in the chamber AND the safety off.

/RIP young lady and condolences to husband, family and friends.


also not handled by drunks
also shouldn't be loaded
also what was she doing handing it by the barrel pointing at her face?
 
2013-05-17 02:00:57 AM

awalkingecho: sethen320: I do now.

That's not to say he's not a great guy, of course. Gun threads and middle east threads are always a hoot though.


He trollin?
 
2013-05-17 02:01:01 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?

Um sure. Whatever works for you.

That's what I thought. You're so in love with your guns that you just don't want to expend the effort to make America truly exceptional in the world.

Yes. You have me figured out completely. You must be psychic.

Well you're not exactly hard to read, pookie.

Your sarcasm meter is broken.


Oh no, I understood the sarcasm completely.
 
2013-05-17 02:01:13 AM
That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.
 
2013-05-17 02:01:29 AM

cameroncrazy1984: We continue to have mass shootings at a rate of several per year.


The beauty of ours is, provided that we utilize our rights correctly, we can actually shoot back!
 
2013-05-17 02:01:57 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Incidentally I dif have a gun pulled on me once when I was younger.
It scared the hell out of me. I lived in Cronulla...as in Australia. Only time that has ever happened to me.

Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

Full disclosure: yes, pre 1996.

So then your anecdote actually discredits your position.

Ah..I think we had a misunderstanding...
I didn't live there past 1990 so I wouldn't know anything of 1996+.

Let me bring you up to speed:

Australia used to have a gun violence problem.
Mass shooting happens in 1996.
They ban a bunch of different types of guns.
They've had 1 in the intervening 17 years.

US has a number of mass shootings in the 2000s
We don't do anything
We continue to have mass shootings at a rate of several per year.

Do you understand this now? Does it make sense to you now?


Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.
 
2013-05-17 02:02:26 AM

awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: We continue to have mass shootings at a rate of several per year.

The beauty of ours is, provided that we utilize our rights correctly, we can actually shoot back!


Which happens approximately zero times.

Some beauty.
 
2013-05-17 02:03:45 AM

sethen320: Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.


Yes, you don't care so much that you said "fark off" when the differences between Australia and the US were pointed out to you.

I feel very safe where I am as well. And yet, somehow, i don't feel the need to strap up every day.
 
2013-05-17 02:04:22 AM
I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?
 
2013-05-17 02:04:42 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.

Yes, you don't care so much that you said "fark off" when the differences between Australia and the US were pointed out to you.

I feel very safe where I am as well. And yet, somehow, i don't feel the need to strap up every day.


And where you are is the US, just like the rest of us, so you are... invalidating your own argument?

Or am I missing something here.
 
2013-05-17 02:05:04 AM

kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?


Armalite Rifle I think. Something like that.
 
2013-05-17 02:05:21 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.

Yes, you don't care so much that you said "fark off" when the differences between Australia and the US were pointed out to you.

I feel very safe where I am as well. And yet, somehow, i don't feel the need to strap up every day.


Neither do I. I like your judgemental douchebag approach though. Ill bet you get lots of converts like that.
 
2013-05-17 02:05:29 AM
If assault weapons were banned, she would have been restricted to a rifle without a pistol grip or collapsing stock, a bullet from which would have been substantially less lethal.
 
2013-05-17 02:05:38 AM

kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?


That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.
 
2013-05-17 02:06:44 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.

Yes, you don't care so much that you said "fark off" when the differences between Australia and the US were pointed out to you.

I feel very safe where I am as well. And yet, somehow, i don't feel the need to strap up every day.

Neither do I. I like your judgemental douchebag approach though. Ill bet you get lots of converts like that.


Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts.
 
2013-05-17 02:07:31 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts


This is amusing because I don't think any of the people you are carrying on this conversation with are gun nuts.
 
2013-05-17 02:08:34 AM

awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts

This is amusing because I don't think any of the people you are carrying on this conversation with are gun nuts.


I stand corrected. He must have just been uninformed. My mistake.
 
2013-05-17 02:08:34 AM

awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts

This is amusing because I don't think any of the people you are carrying on this conversation with are gun nuts.


Anyone who doesn't shiat their pants at the thought of an adult owning a firearm is a "gun nut."
 
2013-05-17 02:09:09 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts

This is amusing because I don't think any of the people you are carrying on this conversation with are gun nuts.

Anyone who doesn't shiat their pants at the thought of an adult owning a firearm is a "gun nut."


Not sure if serious.
 
2013-05-17 02:10:22 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.




Next you will be telling me this doesn't exist.
upload.wikimedia.org

/Tortious negligence at least
 
2013-05-17 02:10:26 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.

Yes, you don't care so much that you said "fark off" when the differences between Australia and the US were pointed out to you.

I feel very safe where I am as well. And yet, somehow, i don't feel the need to strap up every day.

Neither do I. I like your judgemental douchebag approach though. Ill bet you get lots of converts like that.

Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts.


So...I'm an idiot because I don't agree with you? Please, let me apologize oh great infallible one who could never have an incorrect opinion...

Nah...you're just a dbag. Its ok though, you can get treatment for your personality disorder. It might even help with your phobia of getting shot.

Sorry. Not a gun nut. Your psychic powers are really bad.
 
2013-05-17 02:11:07 AM

kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?


Armalite Rifle.
 
2013-05-17 02:11:31 AM

sethen320: It might even help with your phobia of getting shot.


What phobia of getting shot? I gave you numbers. That's called evidence-based reasoning.
 
2013-05-17 02:12:39 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: It might even help with your phobia of getting shot.

What phobia of getting shot? I gave you numbers. That's called evidence-based reasoning.


Are you implying that correlation is causation?
 
2013-05-17 02:12:49 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.


There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."
 
2013-05-17 02:12:57 AM
I am late to this wonderful outpouring of constructive discussion. I just drank half a fifth of Tito's vodka in 5 minutes and am now starting to read from the very top. "Let's see how long he lasts Jim"
 
2013-05-17 02:13:27 AM

cameroncrazy1984: awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts

This is amusing because I don't think any of the people you are carrying on this conversation with are gun nuts.

I stand corrected. He must have just been uninformed. My mistake.


What? You DONT know everything? What a farking surprise!
 
2013-05-17 02:13:45 AM

awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: It might even help with your phobia of getting shot.

What phobia of getting shot? I gave you numbers. That's called evidence-based reasoning.

Are you implying that correlation is causation?


No, it's clearly unrelated that after a massive gun-control law was passed in 1996 all gun-related violence went down sharply in Australia.
 
2013-05-17 02:13:49 AM

berylman: I am late to this wonderful outpouring of constructive discussion. I just drank half a fifth of Tito's vodka in 5 minutes and am now starting to read from the very top. "Let's see how long he lasts Jim"


Turn back, here there be dragons.
 
2013-05-17 02:14:14 AM
Isolated incident.

Just like the last 10 times this happened this week.
 
2013-05-17 02:15:01 AM

violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.


It's required they take one to get a license, isn't it?

I think the problem is more about people thinking guns are cool and fun, which leads to people not taking them as seriously as they should. They're just tools. The guns, that is.
 
2013-05-17 02:15:06 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Isolated incident.

Just like the last 10 times this happened this week.


Oh no, I've been told that there's no such thing as an assault rifle. It couldn't have happened at all.
 
2013-05-17 02:15:56 AM

violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


Ha, that's good
 
2013-05-17 02:16:04 AM

J. Frank Parnell: I think the problem is more about people thinking guns are cool and fun, which leads to people not taking them as seriously as they should. They're just tools. The guns, that is.


That is definitely a large component to the problem for sure. I think I saw something that said accidental deaths from firearms are one of the leading causes of gun deaths. I could be mistaken though.
 
2013-05-17 02:16:51 AM
I met some kindly timelords decoying as ambient walruses who informed me of the futility of this thread so yeah I took their giant semi-ambulatory advice. Did I ever tell you that walruses can't get around on land to well? ...because its a damn shame they could rule the world with their giant tusks and corpuscular bodies if it wasn't for the ....
 
2013-05-17 02:17:14 AM
At common law it's only an assault rifle up until it shoots someone. Then it's a battery rifle
 
2013-05-17 02:18:20 AM

berylman: I met some kindly timelords decoying as ambient walruses who informed me of the futility of this thread so yeah I took their giant semi-ambulatory advice. Did I ever tell you that walruses can't get around on land to well? ...because its a damn shame they could rule the world with their giant tusks and corpuscular bodies if it wasn't for the ....


AR-15s killing off the hot fertile females?
 
2013-05-17 02:18:26 AM
i1048.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-17 02:18:56 AM

rosebud_the_sled: I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.


DERPA-DERPA-DERP!! Still funny and relevant after 18373828 times.
 
2013-05-17 02:20:38 AM
No really I am great I just want to make sure that Shamu the baby whale is doing fine also. Tell her mother the checks are on the way.
 
2013-05-17 02:21:03 AM
mtylerjr.smallbizdepot.com
 
2013-05-17 02:21:09 AM
Ida banged her.
but someone already did.
Sadly her name ain't ethyl
now I can't do her the cold way
Alice Cooper woulda could.
 
2013-05-17 02:21:18 AM

armor helix: rosebud_the_sled: I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.

DERPA-DERPA-DERP!! Still funny and relevant after 18373828 times.


Well hey, isn't that what Wayne LaPierre said? Is he not correct?
 
2013-05-17 02:22:29 AM

cameroncrazy1984: armor helix: rosebud_the_sled: I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.

DERPA-DERPA-DERP!! Still funny and relevant after 18373828 times.

Well hey, isn't that what Wayne LaPierre said? Is he not correct?


The fat guy from Seinfeld? Wtf
 
2013-05-17 02:23:01 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: cameroncrazy1984: armor helix: rosebud_the_sled: I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.

DERPA-DERPA-DERP!! Still funny and relevant after 18373828 times.

Well hey, isn't that what Wayne LaPierre said? Is he not correct?

The fat guy from Seinfeld? Wtf


No, you're thinking of Wayne Newton.
 
2013-05-17 02:23:12 AM
All I can say is...
 
2013-05-17 02:23:24 AM

armor helix: rosebud_the_sled: I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.

DERPA-DERPA-DERP!! Still funny and relevant after 18373828 times.


Figured I'd make 18373829.
 
2013-05-17 02:23:44 AM
Here's how it was explained to me, by an "Expert." Not a "Sharpshooter," Not a "Marksman."
1. All guns are loaded
2. Keep your booger-hooks off the bang switch, until it's time to shoot.
3. Know what's down-range.
4. Don't point at anything, unless you are going to shoot it.
5. All guns are loaded.
He probably also said that you're too goddamned stupid to use one of these things, until I show you how, and try not to break a nail when you pull the trigger.
It was his job, day in and day out, so I'll trust his opinion on it, over some random schmuck on the intarwebs,
I personally think that only people who have participated in "live-fire-drills" should carry concealed, and only people who train, at least once a month, should have a weapon at all.
 
2013-05-17 02:23:58 AM
The thing that baffles me is that Second Amendment supporters would get far more mileage if they could just make their product safe enough to at least allow the owner to handle it without accidentally killing himself or herself.

We've seen everything from a police instructor shooting himself in the leg while bragging about how he was the only one in the room professional enough to handle his Glock, to a school security guard blowing a hole in a student's leg while stuffing his gun in a glove box, to a tipsy blonde blowing her own head off with her brand-spankin'-new assault rifle while passing it around to friends for a look-see. It's hard to support a "guns are a useful tool when handled correctly" argument, as pushed by the NRA, when even trained gun owners shoot themselves with their own guns. They're tools that are apparently very easy to mishandle - perhaps pushing for improvements in the tool itself might be a better tack for the NRA to take, rather than pushing easier access to such a dangerous tool.
 
2013-05-17 02:24:09 AM
I was right when I said that 12 year old is the one that stabbed his little sister to death, and my prediction on this one is that the husband killed the wife. Motive you ask? Clear as the nose on your face...visiting couple wanted the legendary Eiffel Tower romp and wife wanted no part of it. Also, I am betting they continued drinking while swabbing the the brains off the stairs.
 
2013-05-17 02:24:49 AM
....
 
2013-05-17 02:25:03 AM

J. Frank Parnell: violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.

It's required they take one to get a license, isn't it?

I think the problem is more about people thinking guns are cool and fun, which leads to people not taking them as seriously as they should. They're just tools. The guns, that is.


A license? Maybe in some states. If I was a gun retailer a free safety course and a box of ammo would be included in the sale. But I don't own a gun store and common sense is apparently dead.
 
2013-05-17 02:25:36 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: It might even help with your phobia of getting shot.

What phobia of getting shot? I gave you numbers. That's called evidence-based reasoning.


Look, as much fun as it is watching you play psychic and make inferences about people based on fark posts, I have a job to get to in the morning. Keep the dream alive man. I'm sure you can get that utopia you're hoping for if you can just act condescending and judge enough people. Don't let the haters get to you. I'm sure you know what's right for all of us. Everyone knows that all of the best ideas originate from people who act like dickbags on fark. Gnight lil bro.
 
2013-05-17 02:32:15 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


Actually, TFA makes it sound like guns are sentient, evil, treacherous things.  She was just handing the rifle to her hubby when the gun fired.  It fired itself again as hubby caught her falling body.  Damned guns have demon  souls.
 
2013-05-17 02:32:57 AM

violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.

"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


LOL, that's not... Wait, a backpack?

WHY OBAMA NOT BAN?!?!?

/our schools are full of them!
//won't someone plz think of the snowflakes?
 
2013-05-17 02:35:20 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.


Actually, it stands for avtomat kalalashnikova, named after it's inventor, Mikhail Kalashnikov.

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Actually I don't care. Still feel pretty safe right where I am. Fark off.

Yes, you don't care so much that you said "fark off" when the differences between Australia and the US were pointed out to you.

I feel very safe where I am as well. And yet, somehow, i don't feel the need to strap up every day.

Neither do I. I like your judgemental douchebag approach though. Ill bet you get lots of converts like that.

Nah, I only take that approach with people who are clearly idiots. Oddly seems to happen a lot with gun nuts.


You know, calling everyone who disagrees with you a 'nut' doesn't make you intelligent, it just makes you seem like a self congratulatory D-bag.  Believe it or not, you do not automatically have the moral high ground and have to make a convincing argument for your position, just like everyone else. Namecalling is not a valid debate tactic.
 
2013-05-17 02:35:23 AM
Well...if you know anything about that part of Denver....
 
2013-05-17 02:43:30 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
What a waste of pussy.
 
2013-05-17 02:44:11 AM
static.topnewstoday.org:8080

Oh my gawd! RIGHT???
 
2013-05-17 02:44:41 AM

Elmo Jones: Here's how it was explained to me, by an "Expert." Not a "Sharpshooter," Not a "Marksman."
1. All guns are loaded
2. Keep your booger-hooks off the bang switch, until it's time to shoot.
3. Know what's down-range.
4. Don't point at anything, unless you are going to shoot it.
5. All guns are loaded.
He probably also said that you're too goddamned stupid to use one of these things, until I show you how, and try not to break a nail when you pull the trigger.
It was his job, day in and day out, so I'll trust his opinion on it, over some random schmuck on the intarwebs,
I personally think that only people who have participated in "live-fire-drills" should carry concealed, and only people who train, at least once a month, should have a weapon at all.


I would go along with that. I don't see any problem with placing a few requirements in the system to keep people safer by making sure that people know what they are doing. Also make everyone sign a legal document of liability in the case where the rules have been broken. It's no different than anything else that involves hazardous force. One should be well informed and trained before being signed off to use it.

... but sadly it will never happen. It's all or nothing with both sides of the never-ending argument. There is no "middle of the road" with the people who push the hardest for/against guns. Nobody will ever agree on anything as long as people keep acting like complete cockbags... and doing so just seems to push people in the opposite direction.
 
2013-05-17 02:44:57 AM

violentsalvation: A license? Maybe in some states. If I was a gun retailer a free safety course and a box of ammo would be included in the sale. But I don't own a gun store and common sense is apparently dead.


I doubt there's a license for ownership. The NRA would have smothered that, it its sleep. (or shot it, where it stood)
In NC, you just have to get three people to say you're not a nut, get the Federal background check, and you can buy a pistol.
 
2013-05-17 02:47:36 AM
Waste of some nice boobies.

media.thedenverchannel.com
Wait, Jenny Agutter? No!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-17 02:47:37 AM
I just don't get it. I work around firearms for most the year. Literally one or two beside each cot. Most guests are beyond drunk at night around the campfire. People from all around Europe and north America. Yet I've never seen stupid stuff like accidental discharges. Maybe I'm lucky or maybe some people just don't deserve to own firearms. Guns are super safe as long as you are not looking down the shooty end of the barrel.

In my experience adrenaline is a far more dangerous thing to mix with firearms than booze. Not saying handling firearms while drunk is a sane pastime. I don't know where I'm going with this so. Yah! Guns!
 
2013-05-17 02:49:45 AM
The couple and their friends were socializing in the garage, where their Harley Davidson motorcycles are parked, Toldness said. Shane Adair works as a tattoo artist.

Who talks like that?
 
2013-05-17 02:50:13 AM
that one guy with the face:

You know, calling everyone who disagrees with you a 'nut' doesn't make you intelligent, it just makes you seem like a self congratulatory D-bag.  Believe it or not, you do not automatically have the moral high ground and have to make a convincing argument for your position, just like everyone else. Namecalling is not a valid debate tactic.

Well said.
 
2013-05-17 02:50:55 AM

armor helix: rosebud_the_sled: I may be stating the obvious, but if there had been someone else in the area who was armed, that never would have happened.  After all, it is absolute truth that the only way to stop someone with a weapon is someone else with a weapon.

DERPA-DERPA-DERP!! Still funny and relevant after 18,373,828 times.


Wow, that's almost 5,000 times for each gun death since Newtown.
 
2013-05-17 02:52:26 AM

mtlls: Basic firearms instruction anyone?


Yeah. Instruction and training is always useful when you're using a drug that makes you forget or ignore instruction and training.
 
2013-05-17 02:52:32 AM
westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-05-17 02:58:03 AM

sethen320: the_chief: Only cops should have guns.

And donuts.


Why would a donut need a gun?
 
2013-05-17 03:01:46 AM

hammettman: FTA: Anastasia Adair, a new an ex gun enthusiast, went upstairs to a bedroom get her recently purchased assault rifle

FTFM


The M in FTFM stands for "myself" - this acronym is for use when correcting your own mistake.

[themoreyouknow.jpg]
 
2013-05-17 03:06:51 AM
Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?
 
2013-05-17 03:11:31 AM

Dimensio: If assault weapons were banned, she would have been restricted to a rifle without a pistol grip or collapsing stock, a bullet from which would have been substantially less lethal.


I bet it was to some degree the pistol grip (along with auto-loading action) that did her in. I suspect that the fellow to whom she was handing the gun accidently pulled the trigger. The shock of that probably triggered him to fire the second round and then drop the rifle altogether. His claim is that he does not know if he touched the gun before it was fired. Right dude. If that were possible (that guns just fire willy-nilly) then all guns should be banned immediately. He most likely grabbed the gun by its obvious (to him) handle, the pistol grip. I think he would have been less likely to shoot her with traditional furniture on the weapon.
/I also believe that they were both in error with their handling and that ultimately caused her accidental death.
 
2013-05-17 03:12:13 AM

sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

More like because the gun related deaths per 100000 people in the UK is .20 versus more than ten times that in the US.

But, you know, again. Reality.

So the fark what? Go live in the damn UK. Your chances of getting shot in the U.S. are still farking are pretty damn remote. Stop being scared all of the time.


"Stop being scared....."

Says the guy who lives in a country where even friendly conversations between mother and daughter are conducted at gunpoint in case one of them tries something funny.....
 
2013-05-17 03:12:24 AM
What was she doing with a fully automatic military weapon or in other words an assault rifle?  I do hope that she had the fed tax stamp for it.
 
2013-05-17 03:13:09 AM

Iluvbeer: sethen320: the_chief: Only cops should have guns.

And donuts.

Why would a donut need a gun?


If donuts had guns they wouldn't get eaten. Just like fetuses.
 
2013-05-17 03:13:12 AM

Elmo Jones: violentsalvation: A license? Maybe in some states. If I was a gun retailer a free safety course and a box of ammo would be included in the sale. But I don't own a gun store and common sense is apparently dead.

I doubt there's a license for ownership. The NRA would have smothered that, it its sleep. (or shot it, where it stood)
In NC, you just have to get three people to say you're not a nut, get the Federal background check, and you can buy a pistol.


On the other side of the coin, some people would make it prohibitively expensive to get the license or leave the judgment call up to a painfully slow bureaucracy and a political appointee with a badge. Both extremes leave us stuck where we're at now.
 
2013-05-17 03:17:32 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?

Um sure. Whatever works for you.

That's what I thought. You're so in love with your guns that you just don't want to expend the effort to make America truly exceptional in the world.


And the thought of the police state that would have to be established. Along with more prisons, inmates, gang power, illegal markets, etc.

Think Prohibition with a Patriotic flare
 
2013-05-17 03:18:01 AM

fusillade762: Aeonite: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Just like there's no such thing as a hunting knife.

Or a soup spoon.


A salad fork?
 
2013-05-17 03:21:31 AM

bigfatfattyfatfat: Am I the only one that finds the eyewitness stories less than credible?


A group of drunken bikers? Maybe, but I would be hesitant to tell them so to their faces. Or are you suggesting foul play? I suppose that's a possibility, but it's very believable that this was one of those "Hey, hold my beer while I do something fatally stupid!" situations.

On another note, I was surprised to read the woman was a 22-year-old after seeing the picture in TFA. Maybe it's just the angle, lighting, and possible sunburn, but I would have guessed late 30's from that photo.
 
2013-05-17 03:21:49 AM

johncb76006: What was she doing with a fully automatic military weapon or in other words an assault rifle?  I do hope that she had the fed tax stamp for it.


No. She was taxed enough already.
 
2013-05-17 03:27:51 AM

Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?


It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.
 
2013-05-17 03:28:16 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: So the fark what? Go live in the damn UK. Your chances of getting shot in the U.S. are still farking are pretty damn remote. Stop being scared all of the time.

Who says I'm scared? I just figured you'd want to live in a society which isn't the most violent country in the developed world. But hey, not all of us can be civilized.

And I did live in the UK for awhile. Even in the bad neighborhoods I never felt like I could be shot. Unlike whenever I visit Bed-Stuy.


You figured wrong. We are able to dwell on the reasons why but I think you know them by now. The choice has been made, you lost, get over it. You're not disarming America.
 
2013-05-17 03:28:32 AM

GungFu: sethen320: Yes! Gun debate! I'm looking forward to changing peoples' minds on this issue.


What debate?

Stupid people with guns = Darwin Award!


Came for this.
*leaving queazy
 
2013-05-17 03:32:11 AM

johncb76006: What was she doing with a fully automatic military weapon or in other words an assault rifle?  I do hope that she had the fed tax stamp for it.


Nowhere is it stated that she had a fully automatic weapon. Assault rifles as defined by existing laws include semi-automatic rifles usually along with other characteristics. I understand you already knew all of this and you were just playing dumb to make a point about the term assault weapon. So don't worry, nobody really believes you are as stupid as the things you say.
 
2013-05-17 03:32:41 AM

cameroncrazy1984: What you're saying,  sethen320, is that we aren't as good as the UK. That it's just too hard to be exceptional. Is that what you really believe? That the US cannot be better than every other country in the developed world?


I think that qualifies as a false dichotomy. Your criteria for deciding what is and isn't exceptional or best is too subjective. Perhaps your bias stems from your fear?
 
2013-05-17 03:34:29 AM

kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?




You are mistaken, Mr. lazyass.
 
2013-05-17 03:35:13 AM

awalkingecho: cameroncrazy1984: Must've been pre-1996. Since then gun ownership in Australia has dropped to around 5%.

That makes it a must've? You've never hit a 2-outer on the river?


And this is the first time I have seen you since you grabbed a TF for me. Much thanks.
 
2013-05-17 03:40:08 AM
She probably had the munchies and mistook it for a spork.

Happens all the time.

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-05-17 03:41:44 AM

maachubo: Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?

It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.


You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.
 
2013-05-17 03:44:13 AM
When good gun owners go bad
 
2013-05-17 03:44:49 AM

homelessdude: She probably had the munchies and mistook it for a spork.
Happens all the time.



farm4.staticflickr.com
and here I thought there was no such thing as a spork in 1911.
 
2013-05-17 03:45:53 AM

violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.


I've said for a while now that guns are an absolutely ridiculous gap in our education system.  When I was in high school I could take, and receive school credit for driver's education / driver's training. I had to complete a year of civics because I would be able to vote when I got out of there, and society had decided that I should have some idea of the functions and functionings of the US government.

But if I were to suggest that every high school have a gun range, and every high schooler be required to take a semester of basic marksmanship / gun safety, I would be a horrible monster because guns don't belong in schools.  Heaven forbid we ensure that adults in America understand the responsibilities that go along with the rights enumerated in the constitution.
 
2013-05-17 03:50:40 AM

Ablejack: maachubo: Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?

It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.


Yes.  Yes I would think so.  Or at least hope so.  But law enforcement isn't known for selecting the "best and brightest" so maybe they have to keep the vocabulary simple.

/I'm only halfway trolling, and that's just sad.
 
2013-05-17 03:51:28 AM

homelessdude: She probably had the munchies and mistook it for a spork.

Happens all the time.

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 350x204]


Hey, thats the Titanium Spork!
 
2013-05-17 03:55:02 AM

homelessdude: She probably had the munchies and mistook it for a spork.

Happens all the time.

[farm4.staticflickr.com image 350x204]




That pistol grip is scaring me.

Terrified of the spork.
 
2013-05-17 03:59:47 AM

maachubo: violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.

I've said for a while now that guns are an absolutely ridiculous gap in our education system.  When I was in high school I could take, and receive school credit for driver's education / driver's training. I had to complete a year of civics because I would be able to vote when I got out of there, and society had decided that I should have some idea of the functions and functionings of the US government.

But if I were to suggest that every high school have a gun range, and every high schooler be required to take a semester of basic marksmanship / gun safety, I would be a horrible monster because guns don't belong in schools.  Heaven forbid we ensure that adults in America understand the responsibilities that go along with the rights enumerated in the constitution.


We had a range on school property. My rifles were in my locker in my dorm room. My pistols were in a safe in the headmaster's house though. The range has long-since been closed. We also had an alpine ski course and cross country course. In addition to that we have an ice rink and an observatory. It was a private prep school, of course, but other schools had similar things and the public schools offered hunting safety. While the hunting safety courses were in progress each student taking the class(es) had to bring their rifle to school at least once a week, on the bus, as I recall.

However, yes... Today, I expect, not one person who is in charge of said policy would take you serious.
 
2013-05-17 04:01:36 AM
Okay, dumbass, drunk, "accidental" disharge....maybe one. Two??!! Not likely.
 
2013-05-17 04:02:38 AM
discharge,dammit
 
2013-05-17 04:05:46 AM

UnspokenVoice: maachubo: violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.

I've said for a while now that guns are an absolutely ridiculous gap in our education system.  When I was in high school I could take, and receive school credit for driver's education / driver's training. I had to complete a year of civics because I would be able to vote when I got out of there, and society had decided that I should have some idea of the functions and functionings of the US government.

But if I were to suggest that every high school have a gun range, and every high schooler be required to take a semester of basic marksmanship / gun safety, I would be a horrible monster because guns don't belong in schools.  Heaven forbid we ensure that adults in America understand the responsibilities that go along with the rights enumerated in the constitution.

We had a range on school property. My rifles were in my locker in my dorm room. My pistols were in a safe in the headmaster's house though. The range has long-since been closed. We also had an alpine ski course and cross country course. In addition to that we have an ice rink and an observatory. It was a private prep school, of course, but other schools had similar things and the public schools offered hunting safety. While the hunting safety courses were in progress each student taking the class(es) had to bring their rifle to school at least once a week, on the bus, as I recall.

However, yes... Today, I expect, not one person who is in charge of said policy would take you serious.


theinfosphere.org
 
2013-05-17 04:40:24 AM
They look like the kind of turds who would ride Harleys.

100% assholes, every single one of you without exception - dicks.
 
2013-05-17 05:07:38 AM
All this badass stuff for a "tough guy and woman" image for your friends when drinking, and the thing that killed one of you is a lack of education how to handle fire arms safely. OH wait....you forgot, because you were hammered and in a hurry to show off your new "piece".

/not anti gun nut
//education is your friend, then practice what you learn.
 
2013-05-17 05:38:55 AM

cc_rider: I think I'm becoming de-sensitized to self-inflicted gun violence caused by stupidity (thanks, Fark!) but this in the sidebar was pretty damn disturbing:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/colorado-springs-area/naked-aut is tic-boy-found-in-colorado-springs-home-with-dead-rats-human-feces

*sigh*


Methinks the home-school crowd won't be rushing to take credit for THAT student:

http://gazette.com/autistic-teen-removed-from-unsafe-colorado-spring s- home/article/1500830
 
2013-05-17 05:45:22 AM

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


upload.wikimedia.org
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.
 
2013-05-17 05:49:24 AM

Walter Paisley: bigfatfattyfatfat: Am I the only one that finds the eyewitness stories less than credible?

A group of drunken bikers? Maybe, but I would be hesitant to tell them so to their faces. Or are you suggesting foul play? I suppose that's a possibility, but it's very believable that this was one of those "Hey, hold my beer while I do something fatally stupid!" situations.


All comes down to the witness statements; if they were convinced it was an accident by hubby's demeanor, etc...of course, he might be a world-class actor, in which case, he may get away with murder.

Most likely just a dumb-ass accident; I had a buddy who should've known better, pull a shotgun out of a closet, and swing it towards a bunch of us.  Wasn't loaded, and he wasn't threatening or anything, just absent-minded...but we all did a comical-in-retrospect dive-behind-the-sofa/hit-the-deck routine.  He got REALLY embarrassed, as he should have.  Been a very different story with one in the chamber and a light trigger pull...
 
2013-05-17 06:03:24 AM

Ablejack: homelessdude: She probably had the munchies and mistook it for a spork.
Happens all the time.


[farm4.staticflickr.com image 350x204]
and here I thought there was no such thing as a spork in 1911.


No such thing as a Browning High-Power (the pistol mocked in the picture) the 1920's.
 
2013-05-17 06:07:43 AM
Are people that stupid? Does it take all that much foresight to always check the chamber and keep your finger away from the trigger? And never pointing the damn thing at yourself or anyone else you don't intend to kill?

Is it that freakin hard to pull back the bolt and make sure the thing's unloaded? Why are so many people f-ing morons.
 
2013-05-17 06:16:26 AM
Worked out exactly as the anti-gunners would like. Considering how they always post that picture of the "perfect gun" with the barrel pointed backwards so that it shoots the owner.
 
2013-05-17 06:17:58 AM
Booze and guns and inexperience. Sigh.
 
2013-05-17 06:19:40 AM

Dadoody: Are people that stupid? Does it take all that much foresight to always check the chamber and keep your finger away from the trigger? And never pointing the damn thing at yourself or anyone else you don't intend to kill?

Is it that freakin hard to pull back the bolt and make sure the thing's unloaded? Why are so many people f-ing morons.


Heck, people are that stupid when they're SOBER.  Never done anything dumb while drunk?  I sure have...it's why I don't drink so much anymore...
 
2013-05-17 06:24:43 AM
Interesting, so last night I had a post deleted in the Dick Trickle thread about guns because 'threadjack'.  How is this story any different?  At least Dick meant to pull the trigger to end his life.
 
2013-05-17 06:42:46 AM
This is why we can't have nice things.  Idiots buy guns then use them improperly, forcing regulation on the rest of us responsible folk just because they can't be bothered to practice a little safety.  Take the mag out, rack the slide a couple of times, and then still TREAT IT AS IF IT WERE LOADED AND READY TO FIRE.  If you've been drinking, best to leave it in the locked gun safe.

Idiots.
 
2013-05-17 06:58:20 AM
The rifle/gun is always loaded. THE RIFLE/GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED.

Don't point the barrel near anything you don't intend to kill, including yourself.

/getting a kick as my 14-day waiting period is up tomorrow
 
2013-05-17 07:26:50 AM
See! Guns DO kill people!
 
2013-05-17 07:38:06 AM
You have to try really, really hard to shoot yourself in the head with a rifle.

Thing is... gun grabbers dont understand that us normal gun owners just dont care when things like this happen. the irresponsible biatch killed herself. Sounds like a win.
 
Rat
2013-05-17 07:39:20 AM
I'm a bit late to the discussion, but before I read all the posts, which I'm sure are a well reasoned out conversation that quickly escalates into a witty diatribe, I'd just like to say Go Spurs!!!

© now, its time to play "spot the liberal"
 
2013-05-17 07:41:49 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?



Confirmation: Yes you are. It is called the AR because it was first developed by the ArmaLite corporation, who later sold the design to Colt, who kept the AR designation.
Addendum : Much like how the HK416 is built by Heckler & Kock, or the CZ-75 is built by Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod.


That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

Objection: No, you're thinking of HK-47
www.geeklore.net
which stands for Hunter Killer.

Observation: You are both meatbags who know nothing about weapons.
Query: Would you like to know more?

/double meme bonus for you meatbags.
 
2013-05-17 07:45:18 AM

Ablejack: maachubo: Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?

It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.




You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professional and serious, anywhere, ever. Its Serious Business, and most people treat it as such.

If you're joking while firearms are involved in any capacity at all, you've already made a mistake.
 
2013-05-17 07:49:05 AM
We need armed guards on every staircase.
 
2013-05-17 07:50:27 AM
GreenSun
2013-05-17 01:41:38 AM


Poor woman. Getting drunk can really make you do wacky things. Deadly weapons shouldn't be easily accessible, especially by drunk people.

Excellent point. You solved the unemployment problem. We have thousands of shovel ready jobs, confiscating all pointy sticks and blunt objects in the world
 
2013-05-17 07:53:02 AM

thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife may look like
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-17 07:53:53 AM

flamingboard


NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Apparently there's no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

6 zillion guns in the US, you find the 2% that are used foolishly and your mad math skills say "no such thing as a responsible gun owner"

Public schooling really worked for you.
 
hej
2013-05-17 07:54:09 AM
What's an 'assault rifle'?
 
2013-05-17 07:54:49 AM
*is not selective fire... son of a...
 
2013-05-17 07:55:24 AM

Dadoody: Are people that stupid? Does it take all that much foresight to always check the chamber and keep your finger away from the trigger? And never pointing the damn thing at yourself or anyone else you don't intend to kill?

Is it that freakin hard to pull back the bolt and make sure the thing's unloaded? Why are so many people f-ing morons.




Zero training, is what it comes down to. Never hand a loaded gun to somebody else, and never have the barrel pointed at something you dont want to destroy (like, i dont know, YOUR FACE). If she had any firearms experience at all she would have known to remove the magazine and lock the slide open, so the recipient of the weapon can visually see its completely unloaded before touching it.

No... im sorry. It doesnt take training to realize that bullets come out of the open end. Nobody ever had to teach me that staring down the barrel of a gun is a BAD thing, and not a place I want to be.

Some people ARE just stupid.
 
2013-05-17 08:00:23 AM
I'm pretty sure the "there's no such thing as an assault rifle" guy is trolling everyone. Why is everyone replying?
 
2013-05-17 08:02:33 AM

FormlessOne: The thing that baffles me is that Second Amendment supporters would get far more mileage if they could just make their product safe enough to at least allow the owner to handle it without accidentally killing himself or herself.


We haven't been able to do this with cars, chainsaws, fuse panels, SCUBA gear, ladders, gas ovens, or even Goddamn plastic bags.  You could make a non-firing gun made out of foam rubber, and someone will find a way to kill themselves with it. Everyday objects can be deadly if you're stupid, let alone guns. If you have a round chambered and you pull the trigger, it's gonna shoot. That's how it's supposed to work. You can't make it safer than that and have it still do what it was designed to do. Short of fitting it with an AI system that disengages the trigger if you are pointing it at something you shouldn't be pointing it at. But of course rampancy becomes a whole nother issue. Last thing I want is a gun that's insane.
 
2013-05-17 08:15:30 AM

Ablejack: johncb76006: What was she doing with a fully automatic military weapon or in other words an assault rifle?  I do hope that she had the fed tax stamp for it.

Nowhere is it stated that she had a fully automatic weapon. Assault rifles as defined by existing laws include semi-automatic rifles usually along with other characteristics. I understand you already knew all of this and you were just playing dumb to make a point about the term assault weapon. So don't worry, nobody really believes you are as stupid as the things you say.


Not that I really care, other than the fact that you are resorting to calling people stupid, but you are wrong. Please cite an existing law that defines these firearms as "assault rifles". Assault rifle is a very specific term that describes a very specific set of features. Even if lawmakers did use the term in legislation, that wouldn't change the definition of it. If someone calls the internet a "series of tubes" that doesn't mean the internet becomes a series of tubes. That is beyond the point considering that the laws you speak of don't define what it means to be an assault rifle. It was easier for them to just use the term "assault weapon" to make it sound just as scary without trying to hijack the definition of "assault rifle". So again, I ask you, cite the law that defines assault rifle please. It's the least you can do when insulting someone else.
 
2013-05-17 08:16:19 AM

MythDragon: Short of fitting it with an AI system that disengages the trigger if you are pointing it at something you shouldn't be pointing it at. But of course rampancy becomes a whole nother issue. Last thing I want is a gun that's insane.


Plus it would completely destroy the whole "Guns don't kill people" rhetoric.;
 
2013-05-17 08:22:33 AM

philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]

 
2013-05-17 08:25:07 AM
America: exceptionally stupid.  The people truly afraid of getting shot are the ones responding by purchasing guns... And I'm basically only afraid of you.
 
2013-05-17 08:28:02 AM
When you absolutely, positively gotta kill your own stupid motherfarking ass.  Accept no substitutes.
 
2013-05-17 08:28:48 AM

way south: philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]


What may a selective fire rifle actually look like?
 
2013-05-17 08:30:00 AM

thetubameister: America: exceptionally stupid.  The people truly afraid of getting shot are the ones responding by purchasing guns... And I'm basically only afraid of you.


Really? How much time do you devote to being scared? You do realize that your chances of getting shot (by anyone at all) are pretty farking remote, right?
 
2013-05-17 08:44:08 AM
What exactly is an assualt rifle? I've been around guns all my life. Did a lot of small arms training during my 20 years in the Army. But I've never purchased or fired an assualt rifle. At least no field, training, or owners manual ever referred to any weapon as an assualt rifle. Is this just another term the looney left cooked up to scare other weak minded Americans? If you have a knife with several blades, is that considered an assualt knife? If a thug bashes in somebody's head with a bat, does that make it an assualt bat? If some terrorist blows up a group of innocent men, women and children with a bomb, is it an assualt bomb or just a bomb bomb?
I understand that most libs follow the talking points of their leaders and string pullers to the letter. I also realize that most democrats do a very good job of doing what they're told, saying what they're told to say and thinking what they're told to think. How refreshing if people would do a little research and call a firearm by its correct name instead of lumping them all together and giving them a bogus label.
 
2013-05-17 08:46:46 AM
Classic Gun Death
1. passing a loaded gun
2. passing a loaded gun with safety off
3. passing a loaded gun stock first (with barrel pointed at self)
4. passing a loaded gun to someone who uses uses the grip and trigger to receive the gun. *BOOM*

70s and 80s Hunter Safety Courses covered this A LOT, including illustrations of guys crossing the upside of an embankment and doing the above.
 
2013-05-17 08:47:15 AM

philotech: way south: philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]

What may a selective fire rifle actually look like?


dl.dropboxusercontent.com
M-14's, FN FAL's, Browning BAR's, etc...

My gun-fu is rusty but:
Going by caliber, the MP types are closer to machine pistols. AKs and M-16's (assault rifles) fall into the rifle carbine realm because they use intermediate (saw a rifle cartridge in half) rounds.
Select fire rifles are a bit rarer because they combine automatic fire with full sized rounds, making for godawful recoil. We're talking guns that use the same size round as an M-60 but have none of the weight to reign them in.


/If we're going to be pedantic then lets go full retard.
/Because... Why not?
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.
 
2013-05-17 08:48:44 AM

violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "

AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


No, the AK part stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova
 
2013-05-17 08:52:58 AM

Sagus: violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

No, the AK part stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-05-17 08:53:28 AM
Since I'm reading this on FARK I know someone has already argued mags vs. clips, posted a graphic of random objects all labeled as assault rifles, and explained mental health checks would not have stopped John Wilkes Booth, all without reading a single comment.
 
2013-05-17 08:59:42 AM

edmo: Since I'm reading this on FARK I know someone has already argued mags vs. clips, posted a graphic of random objects all labeled as assault rifles, and explained mental health checks would not have stopped John Wilkes Booth, all without reading a single comment.


You neglected to mention that someone has stated that "if only someone else had been armed the incident would have been prevented".
 
2013-05-17 09:03:32 AM

LoneDoggie: Interesting, so last night I had a post deleted in the Dick Trickle thread about guns because 'threadjack'.  How is this story any different?  At least Dick meant to pull the trigger to end his life.


Alert the Denver media that you're the story, here. I'm sure they'll send a news truck or two right away.
 
2013-05-17 09:10:24 AM
How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.

Of course, now some retard is going to come along saying "durr but carz kil mor peepl", but you have to consider that people spend way less time handling or even operating guns than cars. If people would spend the same amount of time with guns as with cars, the numbers would probably be way closer.

So, just make it a requirement to complete a gun safety course, be able to hit a target with a certain precision and complete a written exam to get a gun license.

Also, the punishment for handling a gun while drunk should be the same as a DUI.
 
2013-05-17 09:17:23 AM

Fista-Phobia: The couple and their friends were socializing in the garage, where their Harley Davidson motorcycles are parked, Toldness said. Shane Adair works as a tattoo artist.

Who talks like that?


Not only that, what difference does it make what was parked in the garage?  Are they trying to equate Harley owners to gun owners now?
 
2013-05-17 09:25:51 AM

Aeonite: Can we cover "there's no such thing as a pit bull" in this thread too?


Please enjoy this scientific flow chart
imageshack.us
 
2013-05-17 09:29:58 AM

Gaylord Fister: How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.


Because:
1) A Drivers license is for driving your car on government controlled roads.  The equivalent wouldn't be a gun owners license, but a carry permit (which is already a thing).
2) Licenses are rackets. It puts an unelected bureaucrat in control of who can own a thing and allows them to punish people for arbitrary reasons.  Creating a listed pool of gun owners allows them to be abused as a group by publishing their addresses or confiscating their stashes when the political winds change.

I've faced this issue myself in the USVI, where only the wealthy or well connected seem to meet the permit requirements. After several break in's I still had to come with notarized letters of reference and permit fees that ended up costing more than the gun itself, only to wait three months for a purchase coupon (a friend finally pulled some strings for me). When I got it my .45acp was changed to a 9mm because of reasons no one has ever been able to explain.
 I'd have had more patience for the system if we also didn't have one of the highest murder rates in the nation. Apparently I'm the only idiot who follows these laws.

/If you want to reduce accidents, you don't need licenses. You need training.
/Put firearms handling back into the school curriculum and you'll see the accident rate drop.
 
2013-05-17 09:30:24 AM

Gaylord Fister: How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.

Of course, now some retard is going to come along saying "durr but carz kil mor peepl", but you have to consider that people spend way less time handling or even operating guns than cars. If people would spend the same amount of time with guns as with cars, the numbers would probably be way closer.

So, just make it a requirement to complete a gun safety course, be able to hit a target with a certain precision and complete a written exam to get a gun license.

Also, the punishment for handling a gun while drunk should be the same as a DUI.


Clearly, you have this all figured out. I mean really, what IS The difference between rights and privileges?
 
2013-05-17 09:52:43 AM
just to say:
never accept or hand over a gun that does not have the action locked open, and without first physically inserting a finger into the chamber to verify there is no round in there.
 
2013-05-17 09:55:41 AM

duenor: just to say:
never accept or hand over a gun that does not have the action locked open, and without first physically inserting a finger into the chamber to verify there is no round in there.


Unfortunately, the action of my AR-15 will not lock open, due to the .22LR conversion kit.
 
2013-05-17 09:56:17 AM
"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


Someone knows jack shiat about firearms.
Hopes the P226 I buy soon will have a 226 round magazine.

I'll get behind that Assualt Rifles exist, and they ALL have full automatic mode.
Anything less than that is a glorified hunting or sporting rifle.
 
2013-05-17 10:06:45 AM

philotech: The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...


Actualy it has 3 modes. Safe (which I am sure you weren't counting,) Full and single. The AK's first selection is auto, then push further down on the dust cover/mode selector and you get single. Unlike US doctrine which escalates fires (single, THEN burst or auto), Soviet doctrine was "if enough people get lead downrange really fast, things will get hit by bullets" The single fire was an afterthought.
 
2013-05-17 10:24:52 AM

BHShaman: "The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

Someone knows jack shiat about firearms.
Hopes the P226 I buy soon will have a 226 round magazine.

I'll get behind that Assualt Rifles exist, and they ALL have full automatic mode.
Anything less than that is a glorified hunting or sporting rifle.


Many recently manufactured assault rifles feature only a limited "burst" fire operation which discharges a fixed number of ammunition rounds (greater than one) with a single trigger pull.
 
2013-05-17 10:28:16 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

More like because the gun related deaths per 100000 people in the UK is .20 versus more than ten times that in the US.

But, you know, again. Reality.


The UK also has the exact same racial demographics, while bordering Mexico, so it's a completely fair comparison. Uk, black population < 2%, US > 12%
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I'm having a hard time believing she shot herself in the head, that's pretty hard to do by accident with a rifle on your own.  The husband probably hit the trigger.
 
2013-05-17 10:37:26 AM

squibbits: So much stupid all in one place.


I can't tell if you're referencing the incident or Fark.
 
2013-05-17 10:44:32 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


Right...the people who cling to guns, bibles and large pickup trucks aren't the ones afraid of scary things...it's the liberals who are afraid of everything killing them...
 
2013-05-17 11:01:34 AM
I'm not an anti-gun person per se.

I will just observe that gun owners seem to be killing themselves and their families far more efficiently than the criminals and government thugs they're so afraid of.
 
2013-05-17 11:04:03 AM
sethen320:
Clearly, you have this all figured out. I mean really, what IS The difference between rights and privileges?

So how come convicted felons aren't allowed to own guns, even after completing their sentence? 2nd amendment says nothing about that. How come there's a background check and a waiting period? Again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And how come full auto guns can't be manufactured or imported, and must all be registered in the NFA registry? Once again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And what about short barreled rifles? Where in the 2nd amendment does it say that short barreled rifles are illegal? Doesn't that infringe your rights?

Gun ownership is already heavily regulated. Which makes sense, because we don't live in a freaking 18th century agrarian society anymore. It's time to adapt our laws and customs to the times and circumstances. If you don't do that, you look really silly, like Muslims or the Amish.
 
2013-05-17 11:07:58 AM

FatherChaos: it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Might as well get this /oblig out of the way:

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Yeah, except it was the cop who said it.
 
2013-05-17 11:09:20 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


also because Benghazi.
 
2013-05-17 11:13:01 AM
way south:
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.

------------------------

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself.
 
2013-05-17 11:13:55 AM

CrazyCracka420: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

Right...the people who cling to guns, bibles and large pickup trucks aren't the ones afraid of scary things...it's the liberals who are afraid of everything killing them...


Liberals own guns too. You look like a farking idiot when you pretend that it's only right wing republicans who own guns.
 
2013-05-17 11:25:26 AM
Gonna get flamed... Oh well...

Firearms, like automobiles, are deadly weapons if handled incorrectly and in an unsafe manner. Why aren't firearms licensed and restricted in the same manner as are automobiles?

/ I don't want to take your guns away - I'd just prefer if you'd store them safely and keep 'em away from retards and 4-yr olds.
 
2013-05-17 11:35:55 AM

Gaylord Fister: sethen320:
Clearly, you have this all figured out. I mean really, what IS The difference between rights and privileges?

So how come convicted felons aren't allowed to own guns, even after completing their sentence? 2nd amendment says nothing about that. How come there's a background check and a waiting period? Again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And how come full auto guns can't be manufactured or imported, and must all be registered in the NFA registry? Once again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And what about short barreled rifles? Where in the 2nd amendment does it say that short barreled rifles are illegal? Doesn't that infringe your rights?

Gun ownership is already heavily regulated. Which makes sense, because we don't live in a freaking 18th century agrarian society anymore. It's time to adapt our laws and customs to the times and circumstances. If you don't do that, you look really silly, like Muslims or the Amish.




thecrat.com

Quintus: People should know when they are conquered.
Maximus: Would you, Quintus? Would I?

Someone needs to tell the gun nuts that they have been conquered because they are not getting the point.,
 
2013-05-17 11:42:42 AM

Dimensio: BHShaman: "The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

Someone knows jack shiat about firearms.
Hopes the P226 I buy soon will have a 226 round magazine.

I'll get behind that Assualt Rifles exist, and they ALL have full automatic mode.
Anything less than that is a glorified hunting or sporting rifle.

Many recently manufactured assault rifles feature only a limited "burst" fire operation which discharges a fixed number of ammunition rounds (greater than one) with a single trigger pull.


Hmmm, that makes more sense.  I always thought the number meant how many bullets it fires at once.  An AR-15 makes a smaller hole because it fires 15 bullets at once where as an AK-47 hole is more than twice as large because there's 47 bullets to make a hole.  I can't imagine the size of hole 226 bullets would make.
 
2013-05-17 11:49:15 AM

loaba: Gonna get flamed... Oh well...

Firearms, like automobiles, are deadly weapons if handled incorrectly and in an unsafe manner. Why aren't firearms licensed and restricted in the same manner as are automobiles?

/ I don't want to take your guns away - I'd just prefer if you'd store them safely and keep 'em away from retards and 4-yr olds.


Are you saying that you wish for a licensing system for carrying firearms in a usable condition in public (while private storage and use of firearms would remain unregulated) and where a license issued for the carrying of a firearm in one state must be honored by all other states?
 
2013-05-17 12:03:16 PM
Unless it was fully automatic fire capable, it was not an 'assault rifle'.

FTA ... Anastasia Adair bought the assault rifle at the Tanner Gun Show in March, Toldness said. He didn't know the specific model, but said it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Type.

Jesus Christ, you people are so farking dumb and programmed no wonder you vote in the freaking government we're saddled with.
 
2013-05-17 12:04:09 PM
stupid people with guns?  That's everyone with a gun.  You don't have to discriminate here folks.
 
2013-05-17 12:07:23 PM
lol the comments.  "She was a bright and smart person"

How farking bright and smart are you if you "accidentally" shoot yourself with a gun.

I thought there were no accidents.

I hope LaPierre and all you masturbating gun farks are happy.
 
2013-05-17 12:12:05 PM

pacified: stupid people with guns?  That's everyone with a gun.  You don't have to discriminate here folks.


0/10.
 
2013-05-17 12:20:53 PM

thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


We should give him this while we are at it. The StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally "storm (or assault) rifle (model of 19)44" was an assault rifle developed in Nazi Germany during World War II that was the first of its kind to see major deployment and is considered by many historians to be the first modern assault rifle.
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2013-05-17 12:24:36 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Unless it was fully automatic fire capable, it was not an 'assault rifle'.

FTA ... Anastasia Adair bought the assault rifle at the Tanner Gun Show in March, Toldness said. He didn't know the specific model, but said it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Type.

Jesus Christ, you people are so farking dumb and programmed no wonder you vote in the freaking government we're saddled with.


The bureaucracy ever marches, towards the cliff.

Doesn't matter what we do, it seems.

What a bureaucrat might look like.
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2013-05-17 12:25:58 PM

Alonjar: ment trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.

You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professio


My step-dad was year US Army and part of the times was trill instructor. And I heard that exact phrase more than once when he was teaching me and my brothers to shoot.
 
2013-05-17 12:28:41 PM

loaba: way south:
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.

------------------------

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself.


Her stupidity set her up to be killed, but I suspect someone else pulled the trigger.

Statistically she is not a typical gun owner.
Female, new to rifles, and unable to divorce the weapon from the one component that makes it dangerous (the ammunition itself).
She is part of the wave brought in by Obama's hamfisted approach to gun control.  People who always wanted a gun but didn't grow up around them and are not familiar with their use, but now fear the government is working to take away this right for a handful of magic security beans.

The democrats didn't come to the table with negotiation on their mind. The deal that was offered was a purely one sided affair that could do nothing but panic gun rights supporters. People ran out and bought weapons before taking the steps to become familiar with the hobby, and its now against our school culture to make children familiar with weapons before they grow up to be owners.

This is the consequence of too many "good" intentions to pacify society with liberal doses of ignorance and prohibition.
She panic-bought a weapon she wasn't ready to use, brought it loaded into the wrong kind of situation, and let some other moron pull the trigger. This all happened because there wasn't a monecrum of gun safety training or common sense in the entire building.

Had there been, they wouldn't have ruined a perfectly good AK by splattering blood all over it.
 
2013-05-17 12:30:39 PM

philotech: omatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...

No the weapon he used is selective fire the switch is on the right side not the left.
/try again
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2013-05-17 12:32:04 PM

Launch Code: What exactly is an assualt rifle? I've been around guns all my life. Did a lot of small arms training during my 20 years in the Army. But I've never purchased or fired an assualt rifle. At least no field, training, or owners manual ever referred to any weapon as an assualt rifle. Is this just another term the looney left cooked up to scare other weak minded Americans? If you have a knife with several blades, is that considered an assualt knife? If a thug bashes in somebody's head with a bat, does that make it an assualt bat? If some terrorist blows up a group of innocent men, women and children with a bomb, is it an assualt bomb or just a bomb bomb?
I understand that most libs follow the talking points of their leaders and string pullers to the letter. I also realize that most democrats do a very good job of doing what they're told, saying what they're told to say and thinking what they're told to think. How refreshing if people would do a little research and call a firearm by its correct name instead of lumping them all together and giving them a bogus label.


Assault rifle is a term used by the military, weapons specialists, and people involved in a number of fields related to firearms to describe a very specific type of weapon. Assault "weapon" is a political term that was not coined by the military or anyone who has anything to do with firearms and the term is used in laws much like those found in California.
 
2013-05-17 12:41:52 PM

TenJed_77: Alonjar: ment trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.

You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professio

My step-dad was year US Army and part of the times was trill instructor. And I heard that exact phrase more than once when he was teaching me and my brothers to shoot.


That should read 20 year US Army and drill instructor.
/shouldn't type and drink martinis
 
2013-05-17 12:47:58 PM

way south: She is part of the wave brought in by Obama


Oh, FFS.
 
2013-05-17 12:56:50 PM
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/the gun rules do not care if you remember them or not, they will kill you or others neaby when you disobey them
 
2013-05-17 12:57:57 PM
This sort of reminds me of an experience I had. I woke up one morning and went to take a leak. I was havin a hard time seein ol' willy jr. under my beer belly. Old age and too much PBR was settin in. I figred I oughten a git me one of them there penis extendomatics. I put in a plug of my favrite tabacky and went down to the local gun show.

I found a table that had'n a AR-2000 weapon of mass assault rifle with 50,000 round drum clip magazine belt and figurd that oughten'a do the trick. I made sure the gun show loophole was in effect. I don't want a end up on any of dem gubmint drone hit lists. I bought it took it out to my diesel dually monster truck with deer head hood ornament and stuck it in the bed stock first. A round was chambered and the gun went off by itself, blowing my straw hat clean off. Soiled myself, I did.
 
2013-05-17 01:06:56 PM

valkore: He fixes the cable?


Sorry I'm late.
 
2013-05-17 01:15:07 PM
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Well, aren't you special.
 
2013-05-17 01:32:21 PM

Gaylord Fister: How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.

Of course, now some retard is going to come along saying "durr but carz kil mor peepl", but you have to consider that people spend way less time handling or even operating guns than cars. If people would spend the same amount of time with guns as with cars, the numbers would probably be way closer.

So, just make it a requirement to complete a gun safety course, be able to hit a target with a certain precision and complete a written exam to get a gun license.

Also, the punishment for handling a gun while drunk should be the same as a DUI.


There is. You don't need a license to purchase, store, polish, modify, build, operate, drool over, etc. a car if you do it on private property. In that sense, guns are more regulated than cars. Take it out in public and you'll need a drivers license. In most states a special license, extra training and a background check are required to be able to carry a gun in public. If my state (CA) treated guns like they do cars it would be a huge expansion of my gun rights.
 
2013-05-17 01:45:03 PM
Someone should put together a Signal 30-type film that shows the real results of gun injuries, accidental or otherwise. Maybe just as a viral phenomenon it would cut down on this sort of thing. Probably difficult to do these days.
 
2013-05-17 02:08:45 PM

Alonjar: Ablejack: maachubo: Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?

It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.

You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professional and serious, anywhere, ever. Its Serious Business, and most people treat it as such.
If you're joking while firearms are involved in any capacity at all, you've already made a mistake.


Relax bozo. We are commenting on the report of another farker who claimed that he did hear an instructor give such a cavalier lesson. The fact that you have not heard this type of thing is fortunate but irrelevant. The occurrence of events does not depend on you witnessing them, as you know. As for your second point concerning joking about firearm training; We agree. In fact that is precisely our point.
 
2013-05-17 03:08:37 PM

loaba: Gonna get flamed... Oh well...

Firearms, like automobiles, are deadly weapons if handled incorrectly and in an unsafe manner. Why aren't firearms licensed and restricted in the same manner as are automobiles?

/ I don't want to take your guns away - I'd just prefer if you'd store them safely and keep 'em away from retards and 4-yr olds.


Whenever someone mentions this, it is pointed out that a drivers license is only required to drive vehicles on public roadways.  No license is needed on private property.  Nor do you need to register any vehicles that are only going to be driven only on private property.

Do you still think that it would make any difference if you required firearms to be licensed and restricted in the same manner as are automobiles?
 
2013-05-17 03:10:20 PM

Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?


That's the way my dad told me, as well as the hundreds of Marines he instructed.
Have you ever won a Cassady Cup?
The people who use the expression may not be nuclear physicists, but they (not me) are quite likely to be able to shoot, and train others to shoot, proficiently.
In short, your estimation means f*ck-all, in this instance.
 
2013-05-17 03:13:02 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: CrazyCracka420: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

Right...the people who cling to guns, bibles and large pickup trucks aren't the ones afraid of scary things...it's the liberals who are afraid of everything killing them...

Liberals own guns too. You look like a farking idiot when you pretend that it's only right wing republicans who own guns.


I never said that liberals don't own guns.  I know many liberals who own firearms, but the reason they own them, isn't because they are fearful for their lives.  The reasoning behind ownership is different.
 
2013-05-17 03:38:38 PM
loaba

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself.
Because all 6zillion gun owners have accidents and not something like 1%

You're proof math is not taught in the US.
 
2013-05-17 03:40:59 PM

CrazyCracka420: BraveNewCheneyWorld: CrazyCracka420: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

Right...the people who cling to guns, bibles and large pickup trucks aren't the ones afraid of scary things...it's the liberals who are afraid of everything killing them...

Liberals own guns too. You look like a farking idiot when you pretend that it's only right wing republicans who own guns.

I never said that liberals don't own guns.  I know many liberals who own firearms, but the reason they own them, isn't because they are fearful for their lives.  The reasoning behind ownership is different.


Yeah, that sounds dumber than your original statement.
 
2013-05-17 03:53:36 PM

OnlyM3: loaba

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself. Because all 6zillion gun owners have accidents and not something like 1%

You're proof math is not taught in the US.


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"at risk behavior"

Google it, read up on it. I firmly believe that the typical gun owner regularly engages in at risk behavior. Just because you treat your gun like a toy, and never succeed in hurting yourself or a family member, doesn't mean you're a paragon of safety. It just means the Gods have smiled upon you for another day.
 
2013-05-17 04:01:12 PM

loaba: OnlyM3: loaba

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself. Because all 6zillion gun owners have accidents and not something like 1%

You're proof math is not taught in the US.

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"at risk behavior"

Google it, read up on it. I firmly believe that the typical gun owner regularly engages in at risk behavior. Just because you treat your gun like a toy, and never succeed in hurting yourself or a family member, doesn't mean you're a paragon of safety. It just means the Gods have smiled upon you for another day.


Exactly.  Every single person who owns (or is within a 5 mile proximity of) a gun is on borrowed time.  Most (if not all) will be lucky to live to see the next hour.
 
2013-05-17 04:39:32 PM

Dimensio: duenor: just to say:
never accept or hand over a gun that does not have the action locked open, and without first physically inserting a finger into the chamber to verify there is no round in there.

Unfortunately, the action of my AR-15 will not lock open, due to the .22LR conversion kit.


That is because you have an aftermarket conversion that was never planned for when the original firearm was designed. Even so, you should have a method of locking it open - if it does not, then I would pull the rear pin from the receiver and open the top/bottom when passing it. still not anywhere near as safe as chamber locked back and mag out, but better than just hoping.

You can also use chamber flags.
 
2013-05-17 04:46:10 PM

TenJed_77: philotech: omatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...
No the weapon he used is selective fire the switch is on the right side not the left.
/try again
[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x241]


That is not a selector switch. YOU try again, preferably when you know what you are talking about.
 
2013-05-17 04:47:32 PM

pacified: lol the comments.  "She was a bright and smart person"

How farking bright and smart are you if you "accidentally" shoot yourself with a gun.

I thought there were no accidents.

I hope LaPierre and all you masturbating gun farks are happy.


There needs to be something like Godwin's Law for gun threads. Some moron always decides to make the gun-masturbation trope.
 
2013-05-17 04:50:55 PM

Ablejack: Alonjar: Ablejack: maachubo: Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?

It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.

You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professional and serious, anywhere, ever. Its Serious Business, and most people treat it as such.
If you're joking while firearms are involved in any capacity at all, you've already made a mistake.

Relax bozo. We are commenting on the report of another farker who claimed that he did hear an instructor give such a cavalier lesson. The fact that you have not heard this type of thing is fortunate but irrelevant. The occurrence of events does not depend on you witnessing them, as you know. As for your second point concerning joking about firearm training; We agree. In fact that is precisely our point.


The "booger hook" line is VERY old. It isn't a joke - it is a tool so that you will remember it very very well. And it works. Like a mnenomic device, it helps the student fix the idea in his or her memory. I too was told this line, and by more than one coach.

In this case, sadly, someone did not follow it.
 
2013-05-17 05:25:02 PM
I'm so mad I came into this thread late. Have all the guns you want or have none at all. I don're really care. But were there really people entertaining the idea of of making gun training mandatory in schools--a building filled with teenagers who are, by definition, impulsive, hormonal, irresponsible, and, in many cases, depressed? Just give 'em all guns and hope for the best? That should end well.
 
2013-05-17 05:44:41 PM

TenJed_77: philotech: omatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...
No the weapon he used is selective fire the switch is on the right side not the left.
/try again
[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x241]


Thanks for saving me the trouble.  Some people are incapable of extrapolating from the second dimension, apparently.
 
2013-05-17 05:49:07 PM

The Great EZE: I'm so mad I came into this thread late. Have all the guns you want or have none at all. I don're really care. But were there really people entertaining the idea of of making gun training mandatory in schools--a building filled with teenagers who are, by definition, impulsive, hormonal, irresponsible, and, in many cases, depressed? Just give 'em all guns and hope for the best? That should end well.


There is a difference between giving away free guns (like Eric Holder would do) and training kids how to be safe when using guns.
If you want to reduce accidents then you have to teach people how to be safe, and school is the best place to learn common skills.

/High school gun clubs were fairly common in the days before drug dealing, school shootings, and thug life became the fashionable activities for kids.
 
2013-05-17 05:58:07 PM

way south: The Great EZE: I'm so mad I came into this thread late. Have all the guns you want or have none at all. I don're really care. But were there really people entertaining the idea of of making gun training mandatory in schools--a building filled with teenagers who are, by definition, impulsive, hormonal, irresponsible, and, in many cases, depressed? Just give 'em all guns and hope for the best? That should end well.

There is a difference between giving away free guns (like Eric Holder would do) and training kids how to be safe when using guns.
If you want to reduce accidents then you have to teach people how to be safe, and school is the best place to learn common skills.

/High school gun clubs were fairly common in the days before drug dealing, school shootings, and thug life became the fashionable activities for kids.


Yeah, well they are now. Recreating the good ol' days doesn't actually bring the good ol' days back. And I think the issue of gun safety is best left private, up to the parents who (hopefully) have a far better grasp on if their kid can be a responsible gun handler than a school.
 
2013-05-17 06:35:20 PM

The Great EZE: way south: The Great EZE: I'm so mad I came into this thread late. Have all the guns you want or have none at all. I don're really care. But were there really people entertaining the idea of of making gun training mandatory in schools--a building filled with teenagers who are, by definition, impulsive, hormonal, irresponsible, and, in many cases, depressed? Just give 'em all guns and hope for the best? That should end well.

There is a difference between giving away free guns (like Eric Holder would do) and training kids how to be safe when using guns.
If you want to reduce accidents then you have to teach people how to be safe, and school is the best place to learn common skills.

/High school gun clubs were fairly common in the days before drug dealing, school shootings, and thug life became the fashionable activities for kids.

Yeah, well they are now. Recreating the good ol' days doesn't actually bring the good ol' days back. And I think the issue of gun safety is best left private, up to the parents who (hopefully) have a far better grasp on if their kid can be a responsible gun handler than a school.




This is the result tho. An adult who's poorly educated on gun safety, brandishing a loaded weapon while inebriated.
Parents who don't own guns are unlikely to teach, or even think their kids need to learn, gun safety.
To make up for for lack of adults who don't teach their kids about things like sex, driving, or how to act safely around dangerous things, we teach those skills in school.

A license program specifically for owners won't teach the millions of non owners who come into contact with firearms later in life. Putting a eddy eagle like program back into schools means preventing accidents.
 
2013-05-17 08:34:50 PM

mortimer_ford: squibbits: So much stupid all in one place.

I can't tell if you're referencing the incident or Fark.


Yes. That is correct.
 
2013-05-17 08:47:20 PM

TenJed_77: The StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally "storm (or assault) rifle (model of 19)44"


I would pay $500 to have an hour with that on the range. It's really an amazing rifle.
 
2013-05-17 08:58:25 PM
Elmo Jones:
Keep your booger-hooks off the bang switch

*SNORT*
I absolutely cannot wait for a chance to use that line in real life!!
 
2013-05-18 02:53:09 AM

duenor: TenJed_77: philotech: omatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...
No the weapon he used is selective fire the switch is on the right side not the left.
/try again
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That is not a selector switch. YOU try again, preferably when you know what you are talking about.


That lever is not only the selector switch, it is also the safety. All the way up is safe in the middle is semi-auto and all the way down is full auto. Not very smart are you, especially when something is easily verifiable from the hundreds of gun forums on the net.
 
2013-05-18 02:57:38 AM

thamike: or saving me the trouble. Some people are incapable of e


Well he can't help it I think he is just a "Responsible Gun Owner". Which unfortunately has no meaning any more.
 
2013-05-18 03:06:12 AM

NewportBarGuy: TenJed_77: The StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally "storm (or assault) rifle (model of 19)44"

I would pay $500 to have an hour with that on the range. It's really an amazing rifle.


Yes it is a rather amazing assault rifle, the originals are few, but it could be possible to fins a Czech version. The Free Syrian Army claims to have found 5000 of them Probably aren't German made though.
 
2013-05-18 03:17:03 AM

Rocket To Russia: I absolutely cannot wait for a chance to use that line in real life!!


By all means. It sticks in the brain, and I did not make it up!
 
2013-05-18 09:13:13 AM
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One of their friends in the garage.

/what does your husband do for a living dear?  He's a tattoo artist.   LOL
 
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