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2013-05-17 08:02:33 AM

FormlessOne: The thing that baffles me is that Second Amendment supporters would get far more mileage if they could just make their product safe enough to at least allow the owner to handle it without accidentally killing himself or herself.


We haven't been able to do this with cars, chainsaws, fuse panels, SCUBA gear, ladders, gas ovens, or even Goddamn plastic bags.  You could make a non-firing gun made out of foam rubber, and someone will find a way to kill themselves with it. Everyday objects can be deadly if you're stupid, let alone guns. If you have a round chambered and you pull the trigger, it's gonna shoot. That's how it's supposed to work. You can't make it safer than that and have it still do what it was designed to do. Short of fitting it with an AI system that disengages the trigger if you are pointing it at something you shouldn't be pointing it at. But of course rampancy becomes a whole nother issue. Last thing I want is a gun that's insane.
 
2013-05-17 08:15:30 AM

Ablejack: johncb76006: What was she doing with a fully automatic military weapon or in other words an assault rifle?  I do hope that she had the fed tax stamp for it.

Nowhere is it stated that she had a fully automatic weapon. Assault rifles as defined by existing laws include semi-automatic rifles usually along with other characteristics. I understand you already knew all of this and you were just playing dumb to make a point about the term assault weapon. So don't worry, nobody really believes you are as stupid as the things you say.


Not that I really care, other than the fact that you are resorting to calling people stupid, but you are wrong. Please cite an existing law that defines these firearms as "assault rifles". Assault rifle is a very specific term that describes a very specific set of features. Even if lawmakers did use the term in legislation, that wouldn't change the definition of it. If someone calls the internet a "series of tubes" that doesn't mean the internet becomes a series of tubes. That is beyond the point considering that the laws you speak of don't define what it means to be an assault rifle. It was easier for them to just use the term "assault weapon" to make it sound just as scary without trying to hijack the definition of "assault rifle". So again, I ask you, cite the law that defines assault rifle please. It's the least you can do when insulting someone else.
 
2013-05-17 08:16:19 AM

MythDragon: Short of fitting it with an AI system that disengages the trigger if you are pointing it at something you shouldn't be pointing it at. But of course rampancy becomes a whole nother issue. Last thing I want is a gun that's insane.


Plus it would completely destroy the whole "Guns don't kill people" rhetoric.;
 
2013-05-17 08:22:33 AM

philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
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2013-05-17 08:25:07 AM
America: exceptionally stupid.  The people truly afraid of getting shot are the ones responding by purchasing guns... And I'm basically only afraid of you.
 
2013-05-17 08:28:02 AM
When you absolutely, positively gotta kill your own stupid motherfarking ass.  Accept no substitutes.
 
2013-05-17 08:28:48 AM

way south: philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]


What may a selective fire rifle actually look like?
 
2013-05-17 08:30:00 AM

thetubameister: America: exceptionally stupid.  The people truly afraid of getting shot are the ones responding by purchasing guns... And I'm basically only afraid of you.


Really? How much time do you devote to being scared? You do realize that your chances of getting shot (by anyone at all) are pretty farking remote, right?
 
2013-05-17 08:44:08 AM
What exactly is an assualt rifle? I've been around guns all my life. Did a lot of small arms training during my 20 years in the Army. But I've never purchased or fired an assualt rifle. At least no field, training, or owners manual ever referred to any weapon as an assualt rifle. Is this just another term the looney left cooked up to scare other weak minded Americans? If you have a knife with several blades, is that considered an assualt knife? If a thug bashes in somebody's head with a bat, does that make it an assualt bat? If some terrorist blows up a group of innocent men, women and children with a bomb, is it an assualt bomb or just a bomb bomb?
I understand that most libs follow the talking points of their leaders and string pullers to the letter. I also realize that most democrats do a very good job of doing what they're told, saying what they're told to say and thinking what they're told to think. How refreshing if people would do a little research and call a firearm by its correct name instead of lumping them all together and giving them a bogus label.
 
2013-05-17 08:46:46 AM
Classic Gun Death
1. passing a loaded gun
2. passing a loaded gun with safety off
3. passing a loaded gun stock first (with barrel pointed at self)
4. passing a loaded gun to someone who uses uses the grip and trigger to receive the gun. *BOOM*

70s and 80s Hunter Safety Courses covered this A LOT, including illustrations of guys crossing the upside of an embankment and doing the above.
 
2013-05-17 08:47:15 AM

philotech: way south: philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]

What may a selective fire rifle actually look like?


dl.dropboxusercontent.com
M-14's, FN FAL's, Browning BAR's, etc...

My gun-fu is rusty but:
Going by caliber, the MP types are closer to machine pistols. AKs and M-16's (assault rifles) fall into the rifle carbine realm because they use intermediate (saw a rifle cartridge in half) rounds.
Select fire rifles are a bit rarer because they combine automatic fire with full sized rounds, making for godawful recoil. We're talking guns that use the same size round as an M-60 but have none of the weight to reign them in.


/If we're going to be pedantic then lets go full retard.
/Because... Why not?
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.
 
2013-05-17 08:48:44 AM

violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "

AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


No, the AK part stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova
 
2013-05-17 08:52:58 AM

Sagus: violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

No, the AK part stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova


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2013-05-17 08:53:28 AM
Since I'm reading this on FARK I know someone has already argued mags vs. clips, posted a graphic of random objects all labeled as assault rifles, and explained mental health checks would not have stopped John Wilkes Booth, all without reading a single comment.
 
2013-05-17 08:59:42 AM

edmo: Since I'm reading this on FARK I know someone has already argued mags vs. clips, posted a graphic of random objects all labeled as assault rifles, and explained mental health checks would not have stopped John Wilkes Booth, all without reading a single comment.


You neglected to mention that someone has stated that "if only someone else had been armed the incident would have been prevented".
 
2013-05-17 09:03:32 AM

LoneDoggie: Interesting, so last night I had a post deleted in the Dick Trickle thread about guns because 'threadjack'.  How is this story any different?  At least Dick meant to pull the trigger to end his life.


Alert the Denver media that you're the story, here. I'm sure they'll send a news truck or two right away.
 
2013-05-17 09:10:24 AM
How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.

Of course, now some retard is going to come along saying "durr but carz kil mor peepl", but you have to consider that people spend way less time handling or even operating guns than cars. If people would spend the same amount of time with guns as with cars, the numbers would probably be way closer.

So, just make it a requirement to complete a gun safety course, be able to hit a target with a certain precision and complete a written exam to get a gun license.

Also, the punishment for handling a gun while drunk should be the same as a DUI.
 
2013-05-17 09:17:23 AM

Fista-Phobia: The couple and their friends were socializing in the garage, where their Harley Davidson motorcycles are parked, Toldness said. Shane Adair works as a tattoo artist.

Who talks like that?


Not only that, what difference does it make what was parked in the garage?  Are they trying to equate Harley owners to gun owners now?
 
2013-05-17 09:25:51 AM

Aeonite: Can we cover "there's no such thing as a pit bull" in this thread too?


Please enjoy this scientific flow chart
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2013-05-17 09:29:58 AM

Gaylord Fister: How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.


Because:
1) A Drivers license is for driving your car on government controlled roads.  The equivalent wouldn't be a gun owners license, but a carry permit (which is already a thing).
2) Licenses are rackets. It puts an unelected bureaucrat in control of who can own a thing and allows them to punish people for arbitrary reasons.  Creating a listed pool of gun owners allows them to be abused as a group by publishing their addresses or confiscating their stashes when the political winds change.

I've faced this issue myself in the USVI, where only the wealthy or well connected seem to meet the permit requirements. After several break in's I still had to come with notarized letters of reference and permit fees that ended up costing more than the gun itself, only to wait three months for a purchase coupon (a friend finally pulled some strings for me). When I got it my .45acp was changed to a 9mm because of reasons no one has ever been able to explain.
 I'd have had more patience for the system if we also didn't have one of the highest murder rates in the nation. Apparently I'm the only idiot who follows these laws.

/If you want to reduce accidents, you don't need licenses. You need training.
/Put firearms handling back into the school curriculum and you'll see the accident rate drop.
 
2013-05-17 09:30:24 AM

Gaylord Fister: How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.

Of course, now some retard is going to come along saying "durr but carz kil mor peepl", but you have to consider that people spend way less time handling or even operating guns than cars. If people would spend the same amount of time with guns as with cars, the numbers would probably be way closer.

So, just make it a requirement to complete a gun safety course, be able to hit a target with a certain precision and complete a written exam to get a gun license.

Also, the punishment for handling a gun while drunk should be the same as a DUI.


Clearly, you have this all figured out. I mean really, what IS The difference between rights and privileges?
 
2013-05-17 09:52:43 AM
just to say:
never accept or hand over a gun that does not have the action locked open, and without first physically inserting a finger into the chamber to verify there is no round in there.
 
2013-05-17 09:55:41 AM

duenor: just to say:
never accept or hand over a gun that does not have the action locked open, and without first physically inserting a finger into the chamber to verify there is no round in there.


Unfortunately, the action of my AR-15 will not lock open, due to the .22LR conversion kit.
 
2013-05-17 09:56:17 AM
"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


Someone knows jack shiat about firearms.
Hopes the P226 I buy soon will have a 226 round magazine.

I'll get behind that Assualt Rifles exist, and they ALL have full automatic mode.
Anything less than that is a glorified hunting or sporting rifle.
 
2013-05-17 10:06:45 AM

philotech: The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...


Actualy it has 3 modes. Safe (which I am sure you weren't counting,) Full and single. The AK's first selection is auto, then push further down on the dust cover/mode selector and you get single. Unlike US doctrine which escalates fires (single, THEN burst or auto), Soviet doctrine was "if enough people get lead downrange really fast, things will get hit by bullets" The single fire was an afterthought.
 
2013-05-17 10:24:52 AM

BHShaman: "The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

Someone knows jack shiat about firearms.
Hopes the P226 I buy soon will have a 226 round magazine.

I'll get behind that Assualt Rifles exist, and they ALL have full automatic mode.
Anything less than that is a glorified hunting or sporting rifle.


Many recently manufactured assault rifles feature only a limited "burst" fire operation which discharges a fixed number of ammunition rounds (greater than one) with a single trigger pull.
 
2013-05-17 10:28:16 AM

cameroncrazy1984: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

More like because the gun related deaths per 100000 people in the UK is .20 versus more than ten times that in the US.

But, you know, again. Reality.


The UK also has the exact same racial demographics, while bordering Mexico, so it's a completely fair comparison. Uk, black population < 2%, US > 12%
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I'm having a hard time believing she shot herself in the head, that's pretty hard to do by accident with a rifle on your own.  The husband probably hit the trigger.
 
2013-05-17 10:37:26 AM

squibbits: So much stupid all in one place.


I can't tell if you're referencing the incident or Fark.
 
2013-05-17 10:44:32 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


Right...the people who cling to guns, bibles and large pickup trucks aren't the ones afraid of scary things...it's the liberals who are afraid of everything killing them...
 
2013-05-17 11:01:34 AM
I'm not an anti-gun person per se.

I will just observe that gun owners seem to be killing themselves and their families far more efficiently than the criminals and government thugs they're so afraid of.
 
2013-05-17 11:04:03 AM
sethen320:
Clearly, you have this all figured out. I mean really, what IS The difference between rights and privileges?

So how come convicted felons aren't allowed to own guns, even after completing their sentence? 2nd amendment says nothing about that. How come there's a background check and a waiting period? Again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And how come full auto guns can't be manufactured or imported, and must all be registered in the NFA registry? Once again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And what about short barreled rifles? Where in the 2nd amendment does it say that short barreled rifles are illegal? Doesn't that infringe your rights?

Gun ownership is already heavily regulated. Which makes sense, because we don't live in a freaking 18th century agrarian society anymore. It's time to adapt our laws and customs to the times and circumstances. If you don't do that, you look really silly, like Muslims or the Amish.
 
2013-05-17 11:07:58 AM

FatherChaos: it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Might as well get this /oblig out of the way:

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Yeah, except it was the cop who said it.
 
2013-05-17 11:09:20 AM

sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.


also because Benghazi.
 
2013-05-17 11:13:01 AM
way south:
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.

------------------------

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself.
 
2013-05-17 11:13:55 AM

CrazyCracka420: sethen320: Since this is fark my guess is that a bunch of emotional, knee-jerk reactionists will tell everyone here who has ever so much as thought about guns that they are callous killers in waiting...because guns are evil. And they hate scary things...because Newtown.

Right...the people who cling to guns, bibles and large pickup trucks aren't the ones afraid of scary things...it's the liberals who are afraid of everything killing them...


Liberals own guns too. You look like a farking idiot when you pretend that it's only right wing republicans who own guns.
 
2013-05-17 11:25:26 AM
Gonna get flamed... Oh well...

Firearms, like automobiles, are deadly weapons if handled incorrectly and in an unsafe manner. Why aren't firearms licensed and restricted in the same manner as are automobiles?

/ I don't want to take your guns away - I'd just prefer if you'd store them safely and keep 'em away from retards and 4-yr olds.
 
2013-05-17 11:35:55 AM

Gaylord Fister: sethen320:
Clearly, you have this all figured out. I mean really, what IS The difference between rights and privileges?

So how come convicted felons aren't allowed to own guns, even after completing their sentence? 2nd amendment says nothing about that. How come there's a background check and a waiting period? Again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And how come full auto guns can't be manufactured or imported, and must all be registered in the NFA registry? Once again, nothing about that in the 2nd amendment. And what about short barreled rifles? Where in the 2nd amendment does it say that short barreled rifles are illegal? Doesn't that infringe your rights?

Gun ownership is already heavily regulated. Which makes sense, because we don't live in a freaking 18th century agrarian society anymore. It's time to adapt our laws and customs to the times and circumstances. If you don't do that, you look really silly, like Muslims or the Amish.




thecrat.com

Quintus: People should know when they are conquered.
Maximus: Would you, Quintus? Would I?

Someone needs to tell the gun nuts that they have been conquered because they are not getting the point.,
 
2013-05-17 11:42:42 AM

Dimensio: BHShaman: "The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

Someone knows jack shiat about firearms.
Hopes the P226 I buy soon will have a 226 round magazine.

I'll get behind that Assualt Rifles exist, and they ALL have full automatic mode.
Anything less than that is a glorified hunting or sporting rifle.

Many recently manufactured assault rifles feature only a limited "burst" fire operation which discharges a fixed number of ammunition rounds (greater than one) with a single trigger pull.


Hmmm, that makes more sense.  I always thought the number meant how many bullets it fires at once.  An AR-15 makes a smaller hole because it fires 15 bullets at once where as an AK-47 hole is more than twice as large because there's 47 bullets to make a hole.  I can't imagine the size of hole 226 bullets would make.
 
2013-05-17 11:49:15 AM

loaba: Gonna get flamed... Oh well...

Firearms, like automobiles, are deadly weapons if handled incorrectly and in an unsafe manner. Why aren't firearms licensed and restricted in the same manner as are automobiles?

/ I don't want to take your guns away - I'd just prefer if you'd store them safely and keep 'em away from retards and 4-yr olds.


Are you saying that you wish for a licensing system for carrying firearms in a usable condition in public (while private storage and use of firearms would remain unregulated) and where a license issued for the carrying of a firearm in one state must be honored by all other states?
 
2013-05-17 12:03:16 PM
Unless it was fully automatic fire capable, it was not an 'assault rifle'.

FTA ... Anastasia Adair bought the assault rifle at the Tanner Gun Show in March, Toldness said. He didn't know the specific model, but said it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Type.

Jesus Christ, you people are so farking dumb and programmed no wonder you vote in the freaking government we're saddled with.
 
2013-05-17 12:04:09 PM
stupid people with guns?  That's everyone with a gun.  You don't have to discriminate here folks.
 
2013-05-17 12:07:23 PM
lol the comments.  "She was a bright and smart person"

How farking bright and smart are you if you "accidentally" shoot yourself with a gun.

I thought there were no accidents.

I hope LaPierre and all you masturbating gun farks are happy.
 
2013-05-17 12:12:05 PM

pacified: stupid people with guns?  That's everyone with a gun.  You don't have to discriminate here folks.


0/10.
 
2013-05-17 12:20:53 PM

thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


We should give him this while we are at it. The StG 44 (Sturmgewehr 44, literally "storm (or assault) rifle (model of 19)44" was an assault rifle developed in Nazi Germany during World War II that was the first of its kind to see major deployment and is considered by many historians to be the first modern assault rifle.
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2013-05-17 12:24:36 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Unless it was fully automatic fire capable, it was not an 'assault rifle'.

FTA ... Anastasia Adair bought the assault rifle at the Tanner Gun Show in March, Toldness said. He didn't know the specific model, but said it looks like an AK-47-type rifle.

Type.

Jesus Christ, you people are so farking dumb and programmed no wonder you vote in the freaking government we're saddled with.


The bureaucracy ever marches, towards the cliff.

Doesn't matter what we do, it seems.

What a bureaucrat might look like.
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2013-05-17 12:25:58 PM

Alonjar: ment trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.

You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professio


My step-dad was year US Army and part of the times was trill instructor. And I heard that exact phrase more than once when he was teaching me and my brothers to shoot.
 
2013-05-17 12:28:41 PM

loaba: way south:
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.

------------------------

Indeed - she did everything wrong and I tend to think that she is (was) a more accurate example of the typical gun owner. It's very fortunate that her stupidity killed only herself.


Her stupidity set her up to be killed, but I suspect someone else pulled the trigger.

Statistically she is not a typical gun owner.
Female, new to rifles, and unable to divorce the weapon from the one component that makes it dangerous (the ammunition itself).
She is part of the wave brought in by Obama's hamfisted approach to gun control.  People who always wanted a gun but didn't grow up around them and are not familiar with their use, but now fear the government is working to take away this right for a handful of magic security beans.

The democrats didn't come to the table with negotiation on their mind. The deal that was offered was a purely one sided affair that could do nothing but panic gun rights supporters. People ran out and bought weapons before taking the steps to become familiar with the hobby, and its now against our school culture to make children familiar with weapons before they grow up to be owners.

This is the consequence of too many "good" intentions to pacify society with liberal doses of ignorance and prohibition.
She panic-bought a weapon she wasn't ready to use, brought it loaded into the wrong kind of situation, and let some other moron pull the trigger. This all happened because there wasn't a monecrum of gun safety training or common sense in the entire building.

Had there been, they wouldn't have ruined a perfectly good AK by splattering blood all over it.
 
2013-05-17 12:30:39 PM

philotech: omatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...

No the weapon he used is selective fire the switch is on the right side not the left.
/try again
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-05-17 12:32:04 PM

Launch Code: What exactly is an assualt rifle? I've been around guns all my life. Did a lot of small arms training during my 20 years in the Army. But I've never purchased or fired an assualt rifle. At least no field, training, or owners manual ever referred to any weapon as an assualt rifle. Is this just another term the looney left cooked up to scare other weak minded Americans? If you have a knife with several blades, is that considered an assualt knife? If a thug bashes in somebody's head with a bat, does that make it an assualt bat? If some terrorist blows up a group of innocent men, women and children with a bomb, is it an assualt bomb or just a bomb bomb?
I understand that most libs follow the talking points of their leaders and string pullers to the letter. I also realize that most democrats do a very good job of doing what they're told, saying what they're told to say and thinking what they're told to think. How refreshing if people would do a little research and call a firearm by its correct name instead of lumping them all together and giving them a bogus label.


Assault rifle is a term used by the military, weapons specialists, and people involved in a number of fields related to firearms to describe a very specific type of weapon. Assault "weapon" is a political term that was not coined by the military or anyone who has anything to do with firearms and the term is used in laws much like those found in California.
 
2013-05-17 12:41:52 PM

TenJed_77: Alonjar: ment trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.

You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professio

My step-dad was year US Army and part of the times was trill instructor. And I heard that exact phrase more than once when he was teaching me and my brothers to shoot.


That should read 20 year US Army and drill instructor.
/shouldn't type and drink martinis
 
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