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2013-05-17 03:59:47 AM  

maachubo: violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.

I've said for a while now that guns are an absolutely ridiculous gap in our education system.  When I was in high school I could take, and receive school credit for driver's education / driver's training. I had to complete a year of civics because I would be able to vote when I got out of there, and society had decided that I should have some idea of the functions and functionings of the US government.

But if I were to suggest that every high school have a gun range, and every high schooler be required to take a semester of basic marksmanship / gun safety, I would be a horrible monster because guns don't belong in schools.  Heaven forbid we ensure that adults in America understand the responsibilities that go along with the rights enumerated in the constitution.


We had a range on school property. My rifles were in my locker in my dorm room. My pistols were in a safe in the headmaster's house though. The range has long-since been closed. We also had an alpine ski course and cross country course. In addition to that we have an ice rink and an observatory. It was a private prep school, of course, but other schools had similar things and the public schools offered hunting safety. While the hunting safety courses were in progress each student taking the class(es) had to bring their rifle to school at least once a week, on the bus, as I recall.

However, yes... Today, I expect, not one person who is in charge of said policy would take you serious.
 
2013-05-17 04:01:36 AM  
Okay, dumbass, drunk, "accidental" disharge....maybe one. Two??!! Not likely.
 
2013-05-17 04:02:38 AM  
discharge,dammit
 
2013-05-17 04:05:46 AM  

UnspokenVoice: maachubo: violentsalvation: That sucks. I wish more people would take a simple firearms safety course before they decide to bring a gun into the home.

I've said for a while now that guns are an absolutely ridiculous gap in our education system.  When I was in high school I could take, and receive school credit for driver's education / driver's training. I had to complete a year of civics because I would be able to vote when I got out of there, and society had decided that I should have some idea of the functions and functionings of the US government.

But if I were to suggest that every high school have a gun range, and every high schooler be required to take a semester of basic marksmanship / gun safety, I would be a horrible monster because guns don't belong in schools.  Heaven forbid we ensure that adults in America understand the responsibilities that go along with the rights enumerated in the constitution.

We had a range on school property. My rifles were in my locker in my dorm room. My pistols were in a safe in the headmaster's house though. The range has long-since been closed. We also had an alpine ski course and cross country course. In addition to that we have an ice rink and an observatory. It was a private prep school, of course, but other schools had similar things and the public schools offered hunting safety. While the hunting safety courses were in progress each student taking the class(es) had to bring their rifle to school at least once a week, on the bus, as I recall.

However, yes... Today, I expect, not one person who is in charge of said policy would take you serious.


theinfosphere.org
 
2013-05-17 04:40:24 AM  
They look like the kind of turds who would ride Harleys.

100% assholes, every single one of you without exception - dicks.
 
2013-05-17 05:07:38 AM  
All this badass stuff for a "tough guy and woman" image for your friends when drinking, and the thing that killed one of you is a lack of education how to handle fire arms safely. OH wait....you forgot, because you were hammered and in a hurry to show off your new "piece".

/not anti gun nut
//education is your friend, then practice what you learn.
 
2013-05-17 05:38:55 AM  

cc_rider: I think I'm becoming de-sensitized to self-inflicted gun violence caused by stupidity (thanks, Fark!) but this in the sidebar was pretty damn disturbing:

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/colorado-springs-area/naked-aut is tic-boy-found-in-colorado-springs-home-with-dead-rats-human-feces

*sigh*


Methinks the home-school crowd won't be rushing to take credit for THAT student:

http://gazette.com/autistic-teen-removed-from-unsafe-colorado-spring s- home/article/1500830
 
2013-05-17 05:45:22 AM  

NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.


upload.wikimedia.org
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.
 
2013-05-17 05:49:24 AM  

Walter Paisley: bigfatfattyfatfat: Am I the only one that finds the eyewitness stories less than credible?

A group of drunken bikers? Maybe, but I would be hesitant to tell them so to their faces. Or are you suggesting foul play? I suppose that's a possibility, but it's very believable that this was one of those "Hey, hold my beer while I do something fatally stupid!" situations.


All comes down to the witness statements; if they were convinced it was an accident by hubby's demeanor, etc...of course, he might be a world-class actor, in which case, he may get away with murder.

Most likely just a dumb-ass accident; I had a buddy who should've known better, pull a shotgun out of a closet, and swing it towards a bunch of us.  Wasn't loaded, and he wasn't threatening or anything, just absent-minded...but we all did a comical-in-retrospect dive-behind-the-sofa/hit-the-deck routine.  He got REALLY embarrassed, as he should have.  Been a very different story with one in the chamber and a light trigger pull...
 
2013-05-17 06:03:24 AM  

Ablejack: homelessdude: She probably had the munchies and mistook it for a spork.
Happens all the time.


[farm4.staticflickr.com image 350x204]
and here I thought there was no such thing as a spork in 1911.


No such thing as a Browning High-Power (the pistol mocked in the picture) the 1920's.
 
2013-05-17 06:07:43 AM  
Are people that stupid? Does it take all that much foresight to always check the chamber and keep your finger away from the trigger? And never pointing the damn thing at yourself or anyone else you don't intend to kill?

Is it that freakin hard to pull back the bolt and make sure the thing's unloaded? Why are so many people f-ing morons.
 
2013-05-17 06:16:26 AM  
Worked out exactly as the anti-gunners would like. Considering how they always post that picture of the "perfect gun" with the barrel pointed backwards so that it shoots the owner.
 
2013-05-17 06:17:58 AM  
Booze and guns and inexperience. Sigh.
 
2013-05-17 06:19:40 AM  

Dadoody: Are people that stupid? Does it take all that much foresight to always check the chamber and keep your finger away from the trigger? And never pointing the damn thing at yourself or anyone else you don't intend to kill?

Is it that freakin hard to pull back the bolt and make sure the thing's unloaded? Why are so many people f-ing morons.


Heck, people are that stupid when they're SOBER.  Never done anything dumb while drunk?  I sure have...it's why I don't drink so much anymore...
 
2013-05-17 06:24:43 AM  
Interesting, so last night I had a post deleted in the Dick Trickle thread about guns because 'threadjack'.  How is this story any different?  At least Dick meant to pull the trigger to end his life.
 
2013-05-17 06:42:46 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.  Idiots buy guns then use them improperly, forcing regulation on the rest of us responsible folk just because they can't be bothered to practice a little safety.  Take the mag out, rack the slide a couple of times, and then still TREAT IT AS IF IT WERE LOADED AND READY TO FIRE.  If you've been drinking, best to leave it in the locked gun safe.

Idiots.
 
2013-05-17 06:58:20 AM  
The rifle/gun is always loaded. THE RIFLE/GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED.

Don't point the barrel near anything you don't intend to kill, including yourself.

/getting a kick as my 14-day waiting period is up tomorrow
 
2013-05-17 07:26:50 AM  
See! Guns DO kill people!
 
2013-05-17 07:38:06 AM  
You have to try really, really hard to shoot yourself in the head with a rifle.

Thing is... gun grabbers dont understand that us normal gun owners just dont care when things like this happen. the irresponsible biatch killed herself. Sounds like a win.
 
Rat [TotalFark]
2013-05-17 07:39:20 AM  
I'm a bit late to the discussion, but before I read all the posts, which I'm sure are a well reasoned out conversation that quickly escalates into a witty diatribe, I'd just like to say Go Spurs!!!

© now, its time to play "spot the liberal"
 
2013-05-17 07:41:49 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?



Confirmation: Yes you are. It is called the AR because it was first developed by the ArmaLite corporation, who later sold the design to Colt, who kept the AR designation.
Addendum : Much like how the HK416 is built by Heckler & Kock, or the CZ-75 is built by Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod.


That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

Objection: No, you're thinking of HK-47
www.geeklore.net
which stands for Hunter Killer.

Observation: You are both meatbags who know nothing about weapons.
Query: Would you like to know more?

/double meme bonus for you meatbags.
 
2013-05-17 07:45:18 AM  

Ablejack: maachubo: Shadow Blasko: Dearest firearms enthusiasts:

I generally stay out of the debates, but I would like to offer one small bit of constructive criticism.

Every time I read "Keep your booger hook off the bang switch" my estimation of your IQ drops by about 1/2, and I know I can't be the only one who has that reaction to that statement.

Is it so hard to say "Keep your finger off the trigger"?

It's the terminology used by instructors to explain gun safety to law enforcement trainees. So, yes. Yes it is so hard.

You'd think that the instructors would decide to take training more seriously. Obviously the hokey "make it sound cool" approach is not getting the safety message through to students.




You're BOTH retarded. Ive never seen or heard a gun instructor be anything but extremely professional and serious, anywhere, ever. Its Serious Business, and most people treat it as such.

If you're joking while firearms are involved in any capacity at all, you've already made a mistake.
 
2013-05-17 07:49:05 AM  
We need armed guards on every staircase.
 
2013-05-17 07:50:27 AM  
GreenSun
2013-05-17 01:41:38 AM


Poor woman. Getting drunk can really make you do wacky things. Deadly weapons shouldn't be easily accessible, especially by drunk people.

Excellent point. You solved the unemployment problem. We have thousands of shovel ready jobs, confiscating all pointy sticks and blunt objects in the world
 
2013-05-17 07:53:02 AM  

thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife may look like
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-05-17 07:53:53 AM  

flamingboard


NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

Apparently there's no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

6 zillion guns in the US, you find the 2% that are used foolishly and your mad math skills say "no such thing as a responsible gun owner"

Public schooling really worked for you.
 
hej [TotalFark]
2013-05-17 07:54:09 AM  
What's an 'assault rifle'?
 
2013-05-17 07:54:49 AM  
*is not selective fire... son of a...
 
2013-05-17 07:55:24 AM  

Dadoody: Are people that stupid? Does it take all that much foresight to always check the chamber and keep your finger away from the trigger? And never pointing the damn thing at yourself or anyone else you don't intend to kill?

Is it that freakin hard to pull back the bolt and make sure the thing's unloaded? Why are so many people f-ing morons.




Zero training, is what it comes down to. Never hand a loaded gun to somebody else, and never have the barrel pointed at something you dont want to destroy (like, i dont know, YOUR FACE). If she had any firearms experience at all she would have known to remove the magazine and lock the slide open, so the recipient of the weapon can visually see its completely unloaded before touching it.

No... im sorry. It doesnt take training to realize that bullets come out of the open end. Nobody ever had to teach me that staring down the barrel of a gun is a BAD thing, and not a place I want to be.

Some people ARE just stupid.
 
2013-05-17 08:00:23 AM  
I'm pretty sure the "there's no such thing as an assault rifle" guy is trolling everyone. Why is everyone replying?
 
2013-05-17 08:02:33 AM  

FormlessOne: The thing that baffles me is that Second Amendment supporters would get far more mileage if they could just make their product safe enough to at least allow the owner to handle it without accidentally killing himself or herself.


We haven't been able to do this with cars, chainsaws, fuse panels, SCUBA gear, ladders, gas ovens, or even Goddamn plastic bags.  You could make a non-firing gun made out of foam rubber, and someone will find a way to kill themselves with it. Everyday objects can be deadly if you're stupid, let alone guns. If you have a round chambered and you pull the trigger, it's gonna shoot. That's how it's supposed to work. You can't make it safer than that and have it still do what it was designed to do. Short of fitting it with an AI system that disengages the trigger if you are pointing it at something you shouldn't be pointing it at. But of course rampancy becomes a whole nother issue. Last thing I want is a gun that's insane.
 
2013-05-17 08:15:30 AM  

Ablejack: johncb76006: What was she doing with a fully automatic military weapon or in other words an assault rifle?  I do hope that she had the fed tax stamp for it.

Nowhere is it stated that she had a fully automatic weapon. Assault rifles as defined by existing laws include semi-automatic rifles usually along with other characteristics. I understand you already knew all of this and you were just playing dumb to make a point about the term assault weapon. So don't worry, nobody really believes you are as stupid as the things you say.


Not that I really care, other than the fact that you are resorting to calling people stupid, but you are wrong. Please cite an existing law that defines these firearms as "assault rifles". Assault rifle is a very specific term that describes a very specific set of features. Even if lawmakers did use the term in legislation, that wouldn't change the definition of it. If someone calls the internet a "series of tubes" that doesn't mean the internet becomes a series of tubes. That is beyond the point considering that the laws you speak of don't define what it means to be an assault rifle. It was easier for them to just use the term "assault weapon" to make it sound just as scary without trying to hijack the definition of "assault rifle". So again, I ask you, cite the law that defines assault rifle please. It's the least you can do when insulting someone else.
 
2013-05-17 08:16:19 AM  

MythDragon: Short of fitting it with an AI system that disengages the trigger if you are pointing it at something you shouldn't be pointing it at. But of course rampancy becomes a whole nother issue. Last thing I want is a gun that's insane.


Plus it would completely destroy the whole "Guns don't kill people" rhetoric.;
 
2013-05-17 08:22:33 AM  

philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]

 
2013-05-17 08:25:07 AM  
America: exceptionally stupid.  The people truly afraid of getting shot are the ones responding by purchasing guns... And I'm basically only afraid of you.
 
2013-05-17 08:28:02 AM  
When you absolutely, positively gotta kill your own stupid motherfarking ass.  Accept no substitutes.
 
2013-05-17 08:28:48 AM  

way south: philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode... 

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]


What may a selective fire rifle actually look like?
 
2013-05-17 08:44:08 AM  
What exactly is an assualt rifle? I've been around guns all my life. Did a lot of small arms training during my 20 years in the Army. But I've never purchased or fired an assualt rifle. At least no field, training, or owners manual ever referred to any weapon as an assualt rifle. Is this just another term the looney left cooked up to scare other weak minded Americans? If you have a knife with several blades, is that considered an assualt knife? If a thug bashes in somebody's head with a bat, does that make it an assualt bat? If some terrorist blows up a group of innocent men, women and children with a bomb, is it an assualt bomb or just a bomb bomb?
I understand that most libs follow the talking points of their leaders and string pullers to the letter. I also realize that most democrats do a very good job of doing what they're told, saying what they're told to say and thinking what they're told to think. How refreshing if people would do a little research and call a firearm by its correct name instead of lumping them all together and giving them a bogus label.
 
2013-05-17 08:46:46 AM  
Classic Gun Death
1. passing a loaded gun
2. passing a loaded gun with safety off
3. passing a loaded gun stock first (with barrel pointed at self)
4. passing a loaded gun to someone who uses uses the grip and trigger to receive the gun. *BOOM*

70s and 80s Hunter Safety Courses covered this A LOT, including illustrations of guys crossing the upside of an embankment and doing the above.
 
2013-05-17 08:47:15 AM  

philotech: way south: philotech: thamike: NewportBarGuy: There is no such thing as an assault rifle.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x289]
An assault rifle is a selective fire (selective between automatic, semi-automatic, and burst fire) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

The weapon you decided to use as an example is not selecting fire; it has 1 firing mode...

What a selective fire rife Submachine gun may look like
[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x325]

What may a selective fire rifle actually look like?


dl.dropboxusercontent.com
M-14's, FN FAL's, Browning BAR's, etc...

My gun-fu is rusty but:
Going by caliber, the MP types are closer to machine pistols. AKs and M-16's (assault rifles) fall into the rifle carbine realm because they use intermediate (saw a rifle cartridge in half) rounds.
Select fire rifles are a bit rarer because they combine automatic fire with full sized rounds, making for godawful recoil. We're talking guns that use the same size round as an M-60 but have none of the weight to reign them in.


/If we're going to be pedantic then lets go full retard.
/Because... Why not?
/As to the subject: This woman made many mistakes. Combining alcohol, guns, a round in the chamber, safety off, and having the rifle pointed at her.
/Darwin was a-knocking and, sadly, she answered the door.
 
2013-05-17 08:48:44 AM  

violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "

AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."


No, the AK part stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova
 
2013-05-17 08:52:58 AM  

Sagus: violentsalvation: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: kibbled: I assumed AR-15 stood for assault rifle. Am i mistaken?

That is correct. AK-47, as mentioned in the article, stands for Attack Killer.

There was a trolling comment in an earlier gun thread today that cracked me up.


"The AK-47 and AR-15 are Assault Rifles as designated by their manufacturers. Of course we all know "AR" stands for "Assault Rifle", but "AK" stands for "Assaulti Karabina", which is Russian for, you guessed it, "Assault Rifle." These were purpose-built for being fully machine gun automatic weapons for infantrymen to kill as many enemy as possible.

The numbers indicated the size of their ammo magazines but there have been aftermarket magazines developed which will hold 30 or 100 rounds, and even a backpack that will hold 1000 rounds."

No, the AK part stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova


i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-05-17 08:53:28 AM  
Since I'm reading this on FARK I know someone has already argued mags vs. clips, posted a graphic of random objects all labeled as assault rifles, and explained mental health checks would not have stopped John Wilkes Booth, all without reading a single comment.
 
2013-05-17 08:59:42 AM  

edmo: Since I'm reading this on FARK I know someone has already argued mags vs. clips, posted a graphic of random objects all labeled as assault rifles, and explained mental health checks would not have stopped John Wilkes Booth, all without reading a single comment.


You neglected to mention that someone has stated that "if only someone else had been armed the incident would have been prevented".
 
2013-05-17 09:03:32 AM  

LoneDoggie: Interesting, so last night I had a post deleted in the Dick Trickle thread about guns because 'threadjack'.  How is this story any different?  At least Dick meant to pull the trigger to end his life.


Alert the Denver media that you're the story, here. I'm sure they'll send a news truck or two right away.
 
2013-05-17 09:10:24 AM  
How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.

Of course, now some retard is going to come along saying "durr but carz kil mor peepl", but you have to consider that people spend way less time handling or even operating guns than cars. If people would spend the same amount of time with guns as with cars, the numbers would probably be way closer.

So, just make it a requirement to complete a gun safety course, be able to hit a target with a certain precision and complete a written exam to get a gun license.

Also, the punishment for handling a gun while drunk should be the same as a DUI.
 
2013-05-17 09:17:23 AM  

Fista-Phobia: The couple and their friends were socializing in the garage, where their Harley Davidson motorcycles are parked, Toldness said. Shane Adair works as a tattoo artist.

Who talks like that?


Not only that, what difference does it make what was parked in the garage?  Are they trying to equate Harley owners to gun owners now?
 
2013-05-17 09:25:51 AM  

Aeonite: Can we cover "there's no such thing as a pit bull" in this thread too?


Please enjoy this scientific flow chart
imageshack.us
 
2013-05-17 09:29:58 AM  

Gaylord Fister: How come there isn't a gun license like a drivers license? One could argue that guns are equally if not more dangerous than cars.


Because:
1) A Drivers license is for driving your car on government controlled roads.  The equivalent wouldn't be a gun owners license, but a carry permit (which is already a thing).
2) Licenses are rackets. It puts an unelected bureaucrat in control of who can own a thing and allows them to punish people for arbitrary reasons.  Creating a listed pool of gun owners allows them to be abused as a group by publishing their addresses or confiscating their stashes when the political winds change.

I've faced this issue myself in the USVI, where only the wealthy or well connected seem to meet the permit requirements. After several break in's I still had to come with notarized letters of reference and permit fees that ended up costing more than the gun itself, only to wait three months for a purchase coupon (a friend finally pulled some strings for me). When I got it my .45acp was changed to a 9mm because of reasons no one has ever been able to explain.
 I'd have had more patience for the system if we also didn't have one of the highest murder rates in the nation. Apparently I'm the only idiot who follows these laws.

/If you want to reduce accidents, you don't need licenses. You need training.
/Put firearms handling back into the school curriculum and you'll see the accident rate drop.
 
2013-05-17 09:52:43 AM  
just to say:
never accept or hand over a gun that does not have the action locked open, and without first physically inserting a finger into the chamber to verify there is no round in there.
 
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