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(KITV Honolulu)   School threatens to fire 24-year-old teacher's assistant because she's: A) sleeping with students, B) sending naked pics to students, C) eating her homemade organic lunches in front of the students   (kitv.com) divider line 136
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2013-05-16 10:26:09 PM
Everything was just fine until she decided to dip her cucumber.
 
2013-05-17 12:05:58 AM
I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.
 
2013-05-17 01:10:16 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.


While that annoying it's not what this teacher's assistant is doing.
 
2013-05-17 01:27:00 AM
From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.



Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?
 
2013-05-17 01:28:01 AM
In my day kids used to vandalize schools to make a point.

these days kids in teachers college should be the ones doing the dirty.

why anyone would want to work in a sue happy PC by the book plus fine print. Culture like public school is beyond me
 
2013-05-17 01:29:08 AM
They expect her to field questions about the food being served, so that's why she can't eat her prepared lunch? Have these assholes ever met a pre-schooler? Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down- they think the litter box is an almond roca dispenser. Christ.
 
2013-05-17 01:32:07 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


And here I thought I was the only one thinking this.
 
2013-05-17 01:32:46 AM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: these days kids in teachers college should be the ones doing the dirty.


Out of context but fitting nonetheless.

/Just not in this story.
//Soon though, I'm sure.
 
2013-05-17 01:35:21 AM

jayphat: mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?

And here I thought I was the only one thinking this.


I thought that too and then was distracted by the age difference - he is 53, she is 24? She won't be even half his age for more than 3 more years! Yikes.
 
2013-05-17 01:37:03 AM
ok.. why is this a 'thing' ?
 
2013-05-17 01:37:32 AM
Somehow I was hoping she blew a big cloud of peanut dust all over the students.

Oh well....
 
2013-05-17 01:39:26 AM
Maybe if the school didn't serve swill for lunch, she could eat what's being served.  My kids' school still has the standard packaged burrito, lumpy corn dog or squaretangle of pizza, but the kids select their own side dishes from a salad bar of fresh fruits and veggies.
 
2013-05-17 01:39:29 AM
It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.  It's just a matter of her eating outside food rather than which the school provides.  It's a pretty stupid rule though.  I can't see any real reason for it whatsoever.
 
2013-05-17 01:43:46 AM
Dazrin:
And here I thought I was the only one thinking this.

I thought that too and then was distracted by the age difference - he is 53, she is 24? She won't be even half his age for more than 3 more years! Yikes.


You underestimate his ornate knowledge of "raw, natural organic food", though. Few will live long enough to acquire that knowledge.
 
2013-05-17 01:43:47 AM

Fell In Love With a Chair: They expect her to field questions about the food being served, so that's why she can't eat her prepared lunch? Have these assholes ever met a pre-schooler? Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down- they think the litter box is an almond roca dispenser. Christ.


Yeah, not sure why this would prevent her from discussing the food with the kids. I mean, other than the taste of it. In fact her explanation of why she's not eating it could be a teachable moment for the students.
 
2013-05-17 01:50:19 AM

mamoru: "Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.

Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


Possibly.  "Organic" is snake oil, but preparing lunches at home from scratch means more control over the ingredient list.

In any case, the school sounds like control freaks.  But of course that is redundant.
 
2013-05-17 01:50:22 AM

KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.

Thankya.  Not sure why they had a code of separating the teachers from kids during mealtimes but her diet choice had apparently nothing to do with it...but it makes a nice side story for the oblivious.
 
2013-05-17 01:52:32 AM

berylman: KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.
Thankya.  Not sure why they had a code of separating the teachers from kids during mealtimes but her diet choice had apparently nothing to do with it...but it makes a nice side story for the oblivious.


Read again.  They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.
 
2013-05-17 01:53:21 AM
If they won't let her eat her own lunch and expect the teachers to talk with the kids about the food, that is not a "break", and she needs to be given an actual lunch break. Not 10 minutes, and not "you can try to eat during nap time" (when chances are at least one kid won't sleep, plus there's tons to do to get the place in order while the little hellions sweethearts are quiet.) Whether her diet is legit or flaky is beside the point unless she's bringing in stuff that could cause problems for the kids.
 
2013-05-17 01:54:24 AM

fusillade762: Yeah, not sure why this would prevent her from discussing the food with the kids.


Because Separation of Organic Food and State, that's why.
The kids should be able to go to school and have true school food without having fairytale malarkey shoved down their throats.
I wouldn't want to have my kid convert to Organics just because the teacher put that bug in their ear.
When they're old enough they can decide on their own which they choose to believe is the better food.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:30 AM
53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:49 AM
What the fark?
 
2013-05-17 01:55:51 AM
KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?
 
2013-05-17 01:56:32 AM
It sounds like during lunch preschool food is served. The teachers that wish to eat the preschool food are allowed to eat with the children. The teachers who do not want to take advantage of this for any reason are there to answer questions, but more likely to maintain order.This teacher does not want to eat the food the school provides so instead she has to eat on her lunch break.

What is the big deal?
 
2013-05-17 01:56:35 AM
Is "organic" the new magic word that makes all criticism dissapear?
 
2013-05-17 01:58:29 AM

flondrix: Read again.  They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.

You're  right! (apolizes, sincere).. damn that must suck scarfing down meat from the unknown zone ... I would bring a salad of my own design too.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:30 AM
Hawaii doesn't have specific laws regarding adults and meal breaks, so federal law applies. If she is not paid for the lunch break, they are breaking the law because employees must be allowed to do what they want. Otherwise, she really has no recourse.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:49 AM
I'm not surprised. The state doesn't want people out there making good healthy choices. This is just another attempt to intimidate into conformity. If the teacher eats her own lunch for too long, students are going to wonder why she isn't eating the same foods as them. They want a teacher that will go along and teach kids to eat whatever rotten slop is put in front of them.

When you look at the actual nutrient facts on public-school food, you will find it outrageous. I've heard of Mac and Cheese meals that top 3000 calories. It is my truest opinion that public schools are a major contributer in the ever-expanding health-crisis. This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

Liberal Politics: Ta-da!
 
2013-05-17 02:02:26 AM
So if she was eating Gummi Bears and Ding Dongs in front of the kids, would that be OK too?  Because you know some chubby curvy teacher is going to start bringing those in for herself when the rules can be broken.

Also, if kids get to ask questions about lunches, I could see them asking her why hers is different and she says "the school lunches were making me sick".  Then, suddenly, you get 50 sick kids on your hands, all demanding Romanesco cauliflower and Quinoa salads with slightly rotten tomatoes, with a glass of raw milk.

/ Disclaimer: I'm not a parent, so have no experience with pre-school aged children
// Slashies haven't caught on in the business e-mail world yet, so I like using them here when I get the chance.
/// SLASHIES!
 
2013-05-17 02:03:43 AM
cubicghost - What is the big deal?

Umm... the fact that if you eat the school swill, (which aggravates her allergies), you get 30 minutes. If you choose to eat your healther food, you get a whole ten minutes. Its not fair. Of course, I can hear the 'who said life is fair' crew warming up in the wings, so let me make sure to point out that it is people who make life unfair. Life knows no such concept. Humans created it. And, therefore, humans can strive to make fairness in everyones life.
 
2013-05-17 02:06:49 AM
I know I've been threatened with workplace violence for bringing outside food to work. I used to bring in lasagna and burp the tupperware as I walked past a co-worker who was doing Weight Watchers. It's not often a plump woman threatens to come over the cubical wall with a machete.

Fell In Love With a Chair:

They expect her to field questions about the food being served, so that's why she can't eat her prepared lunch? Have these assholes ever met a pre-schooler? Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down- they think the litter box is an almond roca dispenser. Christ.

My ex and I used to refer to our cat as "the Almond Roca dispenser," so yeah, I literally laughed out loud at your post. Thanks.
 
2013-05-17 02:07:44 AM
So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.

www.kitv.com
 
2013-05-17 02:12:24 AM
fark you teacher. You will eat your meat. How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat.

/odd
//the crazies are in charge
 
2013-05-17 02:15:12 AM

duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.


Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...
 
2013-05-17 02:15:52 AM
It's not really "both sides" if they can't get one side to talk to them.
I like the comment "Carissa says the breaks are only 10 minutes".

BOTH SIDES!
t.fod4.com
 
2013-05-17 02:16:02 AM

JasonGriffee: This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.


I sympathize with whatever hash your local politicians have made of public health care in your little corner of the planet, but you should be aware that most Farkers are Americans and won't be familiar with health care law in your country.
 
2013-05-17 02:20:36 AM
I could see this if she was bringing in Huli-huli black dog and a bucket of poi, but not wanting to eat the mass-produced processed food-substitute most public schools provide is reasonable and probably prudent. I'd go look for another job if I was her.
 
2013-05-17 02:20:49 AM

99.998er: So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.


I think the having a little bit of money gimmick is an unattractive peasant native magnet.
 
2013-05-17 02:22:26 AM
The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.
 
2013-05-17 02:27:57 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


Might also have been an intolerance to something else that was in her diet.  Usually when people make these changes, there's a lot more about the diet being changed (Less high-glycemic foods, less pre-prepared foods, etc) than just switching to organic produce.  They tend to credit "going organic" or "going raw" when in actually it was just they stopped eating shiat and started paying attention to what they were stuffing in their body.

Bonus points since just about every study out there shows little to no nutritional difference between organic and non-organically grown food.
 
2013-05-17 02:28:14 AM

KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.  It's just a matter of her eating outside food rather than which the school provides.  It's a pretty stupid rule though.  I can't see any real reason for it whatsoever.


I think it's like the scene in 'Jaws' where the city councilman doesn't want to go in the water and the mayor tells him to do it anyway to let everyone else know it's safe.

I will also need pics of the teacher's assistant FTA to determine my level of caring on this issue.
 
2013-05-17 02:28:33 AM

StoPPeRmobile: fark you teacher. You will eat your meat. How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat.


>:|
 
2013-05-17 02:28:37 AM

worlddan: The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.


Maybe I'd agree if she was the only teacher, but there's other teachers with her that can explain that while she eats her own meals. Also why's she gotta farking eat it? You can explain food without eating it, holy shiat.
 
2013-05-17 02:29:02 AM

worlddan: For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it?


We call it "maize".

/Mazola! Corn Goodness!
 
2013-05-17 02:29:54 AM

PsychoLaurie: duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.

Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...


Send BIE and I will find you a guy who is not only not a HAGO, but will stick dick in crazy, my friend PsychoLaurie.
 
2013-05-17 02:34:36 AM
What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.
 
2013-05-17 02:36:15 AM

Mithiwithi: JasonGriffee: This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

I sympathize with whatever hash your local politicians have made of public health care in your little corner of the planet, but you should be aware that most Farkers are Americans and won't be familiar with health care law in your country.


I AM an American.
 
2013-05-17 02:37:38 AM
If they make her eat with her students then she's working. She should get a 30 minute real lunch too.
 
2013-05-17 02:38:05 AM
The school I went to for K-8th grade didn't have food of any kind on the premises. No cafeteria or vending machines.
You relied on whatever your parents put in your lunch box/thermos.
The only thing the school offered was milk in those mini cartons for 5 cents available at lunch times.
What the teachers did for lunch I have no idea, I never once saw any of them eat anything.

I remember on Wednesdays you were able to fill out a slip (and provide payment/parental approval) for McDonalds that they would mass-order (small school) and bring back for lunchtime but I probably got that maybe twice in all those years.

Would have loved the option of school food back then because there were plenty of days I went without and whatever they would have offered would have been worlds above what's served nowadays.

Lawn ------------------> You
 
2013-05-17 02:40:21 AM

HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.


That is an interesting question because there is a possible ADA claim here. However, this woman doesn't have an ADA claim because she is doing this on her own and has never seen a doctor. Seeing as she has no documented disability she has no claim under the ADA. But is she did have a documented disability it would get interesting. My guess, not knowing all the details of her particular situation, is that she could win such a case.
 
2013-05-17 02:40:23 AM
Why doesn't she get a note from her doctor?  If they refuse to make reasonable accommodations for her, she could file a complaint with the state's AG under ADA.

/seems pretty straightforward to me.
 
2013-05-17 02:40:52 AM

HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.


It sounds like that person would have the option to eat food away from the children or during their break, as she is being asked to do.
 
2013-05-17 02:42:08 AM

JasonGriffee: Mithiwithi: JasonGriffee: This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

I sympathize with whatever hash your local politicians have made of public health care in your little corner of the planet, but you should be aware that most Farkers are Americans and won't be familiar with health care law in your country.

I AM an American.


From an alternate universe, then, where there was a universal health care program put in place that increased the debt and crushed the economy?

(Does Leonard Nimoy have a beard where you come from?)
 
2013-05-17 02:46:40 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.


You sound like a fat kid.
 
2013-05-17 02:48:32 AM
ShawnDoc:

Bonus points since just about every study out there shows little to no nutritional difference between organic and non-organically grown food.

What about vitamin O?

\homeopathically effective
\\the proof is that "scientists" in "Corporate America" can't measure it
 
2013-05-17 02:48:36 AM

Fell In Love With a Chair: Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down-


www.smthop.com
 
2013-05-17 02:55:20 AM

PsychoLaurie: duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.

Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...


You know, your acronym would be more logical *and* snarkier if you just went with HAG.

/four years building a fortress of bitterness in the friendzone of a shallow shallow shallow guy? that does sound a little psycho...
 
2013-05-17 02:56:30 AM

JamesSirBensonMum: HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.

It sounds like that person would have the option to eat food away from the children or during their break, as she is being asked to do.


She's being given the option of either eating their harmful food during her standard 30 minute lunch time, or to work through her lunch time and eat it during a 10 minute coffee break at a different time of day.
 
2013-05-17 02:58:49 AM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-05-17 03:00:53 AM

wademh: What about vitamin O?


Yeah, I get as much of the Big O as my wife will let me have.
 
2013-05-17 03:03:41 AM
Look, It's an unwritten rule for school that if you didn't bring enough for everyone, don't bring any at all!
 
2013-05-17 03:03:53 AM

cubicghost: What is the big deal?


Hippie liberal indoctrination by ivory tower elitists. Or something.
 
2013-05-17 03:07:05 AM

HotWingAgenda: JamesSirBensonMum: HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.

It sounds like that person would have the option to eat food away from the children or during their break, as she is being asked to do.

She's being given the option of either eating their harmful food during her standard 30 minute lunch time, or to work through her lunch time and eat it during a 10 minute coffee break at a different time of day.


actually it's the last ten minutes of the regular lunch break, from what i can tell. she's being asked to scarf down her lunch in ten minutes so the kids won't be exposed to her food. pretty ridiculous.

not even considering the health issue, as others have pointed out, this is illegal unless she gets a separate 30 min break for herself at a later time. article doesn't say, but i think she should be able to eat with everyone else.
 
2013-05-17 03:11:08 AM
Oh, is she hot?
 
2013-05-17 03:12:13 AM

worlddan: The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.


That's farking retarded.
 
2013-05-17 03:12:36 AM

Insurgent: as others have pointed out, this is illegal unless she gets a separate 30 min break for herself at a later time. article doesn't say, but i think she should be able to eat with everyone else.


To spite her they'd probably give her 30 1-minute breaks.
 
2013-05-17 03:16:37 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


From stopping eating school lunches to eating actual food? Damn I'm 44 and still remember how god awful nasty school lunches were, how old are you that you think teachers eating actual food instead of school food is placebo when they get better?
 
2013-05-17 03:21:21 AM

buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?


Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.
 
2013-05-17 03:30:43 AM
My SIL worked at preschool as a teacher's assistant and had to eat the snack they served because she was supposed to model proper behavior and manners. I just remember because there was something served that she would rather have not eaten. Not an allergy and she did eat it, just a preference for not eating that item.
 
2013-05-17 03:35:23 AM

Gyrfalcon: buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?

Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.




No wonder kids are fatties.

Fricken morans.
 
2013-05-17 03:40:47 AM

flondrix: They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.


Which is perfectly reasonable. Children will naturally be suspicious of any food which their teacher refuses to eat.
 
2013-05-17 03:41:48 AM

worlddan: The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.


Holy crap, that is really really stupid.
 
2013-05-17 03:46:06 AM
FTFA: "It's definitely a possibility," said Lee O'Connell, "but it's not to say that it's guaranteed that during my break time I'm not going to have a personal issue that comes up, and I have to take care of that first before I can be able to sit down to eat."

Is this the world's most complicated way of saying "I might have to go to the toilet"?
 
2013-05-17 03:50:34 AM

orbister: FTFA: "It's definitely a possibility," said Lee O'Connell, "but it's not to say that it's guaranteed that during my break time I'm not going to have a personal issue that comes up, and I have to take care of that first before I can be able to sit down to eat."

Is this the world's most complicated way of saying "I might have to go to the toilet"?


Nah, she just can't go 10 minutes within shlicking.
 
2013-05-17 03:51:32 AM

HotWingAgenda: orbister: FTFA: "It's definitely a possibility," said Lee O'Connell, "but it's not to say that it's guaranteed that during my break time I'm not going to have a personal issue that comes up, and I have to take care of that first before I can be able to sit down to eat."

Is this the world's most complicated way of saying "I might have to go to the toilet"?

Nah, she just can't go 10 minutes without shlicking.


FTFM
 
2013-05-17 03:53:47 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


I have a friend that switched to a organic vegan diet and swears she is so much healthier on it. But then she always posts on facebook about how she keeps getting sick. I find it a bit comical and sad at the same time. But she is also the type to believe in the Big Pharm/GMO conspiracies too.
 
2013-05-17 03:57:00 AM

orbister: flondrix: They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.

Which is perfectly reasonable. Children will naturally be suspicious of any food which their teacher refuses to eat.




Were you, as a child? I think you are full of it. I could give a fark what others ate as a child.

Laughed at you fatties then. Laugh at you fatties now.

Stop being fat.
 
2013-05-17 05:28:28 AM

99.998er: So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.

[www.kitv.com image 400x300]


It is. That older guy who works the register at whole foods gets more tang than a an astronaut.
 
2013-05-17 05:47:51 AM

JasonGriffee: I'm not surprised. The state doesn't want people out there making good healthy choices. This is just another attempt to intimidate into conformity. If the teacher eats her own lunch for too long, students are going to wonder why she isn't eating the same foods as them. They want a teacher that will go along and teach kids to eat whatever rotten slop is put in front of them.

When you look at the actual nutrient facts on public-school food, you will find it outrageous. I've heard of Mac and Cheese meals that top 3000 calories. It is my truest opinion that public schools are a major contributer in the ever-expanding health-crisis. This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

Liberal Politics: Ta-da!


shhhh... your supposed to bash "fatties" here... not give them legit reasons why they might be fat.
 
2013-05-17 05:54:29 AM
I...but...that doesn't...AAARGH GOD DAMMIT.

Take it away, George:

i815.photobucket.com

Domo.
 
2013-05-17 06:24:03 AM
manhattaninfidel.comKCAA Preschools of Hawaii officials.
 
2013-05-17 06:26:57 AM

99.998er: So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.

[www.kitv.com image 400x300]


Really, that's farked up. Way to go, creepy balding graying gross middle-aged dude!
 
2013-05-17 06:42:38 AM
I am more distraught over the age difference in the marriage than anything else.
 
2013-05-17 06:53:49 AM
What kind of bullshiat brainwashing is going on here?
 
2013-05-17 07:04:45 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Were you, as a child? I think you are full of it. I could give a fark what others ate as a child.


Small children (this is a preschool) are often very suspicious of new food. That may be an evolutionary advantage, but it can make it difficult to get them to try something new. One sure way to fail is to say "Here is some lovely, delicious food which will make to strong and healthy. Am I going to eat it too? Erm, no, because it's, I mean, erm, honest, you'll love it." If the school is serving muck, they should fix it, of course, but allowing staff to eat different food with the children is in general Not A Good Thing.
 
2013-05-17 07:05:42 AM

Death Whisper: KCAA Preschools of Hawaii officials.


The individuals in that pic are far smarter than the school officials.
 
2013-05-17 07:32:34 AM
Is that his mail order bride?
 
2013-05-17 07:36:42 AM
Um ... everyone did read the whole article and saw that this place is a private school, right?

Also this, bolding mine:

KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap.

Pretty sure the kids are down for at least a half an hour.

It's not the food, it's the time that she chooses to eat it.  I'm sure that if another teacher brought in a Lean Cuisine and a diet Coke and ate it at the kids' lunchtime it would be the same situation.  Trying to blame this on "oh, they don't like my organic food!" is BS.  She wants to eat when she wants.  The school says otherwise.  Suck it up, snowflake.
 
2013-05-17 07:43:17 AM

squirrelflavoredyogurt: From stopping eating school lunches to eating actual food? Damn I'm 44 and still remember how god awful nasty school lunches were, how old are you that you think teachers eating actual food instead of school food is placebo when they get better?


Unless she has either a messed up immune system or an actual allergy to something in the school food, changing her diet for one meal out of the (probable) 3 per day should not affect her health "instantly". Either the husband is being hyperbolic or at least part of her rapidly improved health is psychosomatic. Or she has an actual allergic reaction to something in the school food, in which case the fact that her lunches are "raw, natural organic food" has little to do with her improved, but rather simply that she's no longer consuming the allergen.

Don't mind me. Just sick of the hype and overuse of "raw", "natural", and "organic" as positive things with regards to food. Tetrodotoxin in badly prepared fugu is raw, natural, and organic, but I wouldn't look to it to improve anyone's health. ;)
 
2013-05-17 07:44:29 AM

Marisyana: Um ... everyone did read the whole article and saw that this place is a private school, right?

Also this, bolding mine:

KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap.

Pretty sure the kids are down for at least a half an hour.

It's not the food, it's the time that she chooses to eat it.  I'm sure that if another teacher brought in a Lean Cuisine and a diet Coke and ate it at the kids' lunchtime it would be the same situation.  Trying to blame this on "oh, they don't like my organic food!" is BS.  She wants to eat when she wants.  The school says otherwise.  Suck it up, snowflake.


God forbid she wants eat during LUNCH time, and for the whole 30 minutes allowed.
 
2013-05-17 07:44:37 AM

mamoru: Or she has an actual allergic reaction to something in the school food, in which case the fact that her lunches are "raw, natural organic food" has little to do with her improved health, but rather simply that she's no longer consuming the allergen.


FTFM.
 
2013-05-17 07:47:03 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


Claim ADA. It works for the "peanut allergy" kids.
 
2013-05-17 07:53:11 AM

KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.  It's just a matter of her eating outside food rather than which the school provides.  It's a pretty stupid rule though.  I can't see any real reason for it whatsoever.


We had that rule when I worked for Head Start. For a while, I took a plate of small servings and would eat a bit of it cause it was the rule, then eat healthier during nap time. It got to be a huge hassle to have to pack a cooler daily, so I started just eating the high calorie stuff they served and gained 30lbs in a few short months.
 
2013-05-17 07:56:18 AM

angrycrank: If they won't let her eat her own lunch and expect the teachers to talk with the kids about the food, that is not a "break", and she needs to be given an actual lunch break. Not 10 minutes, and not "you can try to eat during nap time" (when chances are at least one kid won't sleep, plus there's tons to do to get the place in order while the little hellions sweethearts are quiet.) Whether her diet is legit or flaky is beside the point unless she's bringing in stuff that could cause problems for the kids.


That's the part that caught my attention as well. My school district gives us a 30 minute unpaid lunch break. However, if any of our students (special ed high school freshmen) feel uncomfortable about eating their lunch in the cafeteria (common amongst Asperger's and autistic kids), kids are sent to the special ed office to eat lunch. The same office where we are eating our lunch. And if the kid has a question about homework, we're expected to answer it and help the kid out.

There are some days where I'm only able to eat my lunch during the 4 minute passing period between lunch and the Core 4 class.

It's my first year with this school district. There are many things that the school district does (or doesn't do) that really bother me. Since my contract isn't automatically renewed (all teachers and teacher's aides are on contracts and there is no guarantee that your contract will be renewed. You're not notified until August 1 if you're receiving a new contract and the school year starts August 14), I'm going to be looking for other work - either a completely different job or same job at a neighboring district.
 
2013-05-17 08:01:45 AM
I don't see the problem here. She can eat whatever she wants, but if it's not the school's food, she cannot eat it in front of the students.

Why is this so hard for people like her?

Nobody is discriminating against her for her food choice, and the only reason she is being "singled out" is because she is the only one breaking the rule, much like criminals are "singled out" for, you know, breaking the law.

Cripes, lady, go to the break room, eat your "organic raw vegan lunch" and STFU already.

The organic crowd is mildly annoying - pushing food for the world that is unsustainable at the Earth's current population numbers.

The Organic Vegan crowd is slightly more annoying, many wandering into PETA territory with their condescending attitudes about animal treatment.

Organic Vegan Raw morans are, well, morans. Some foods have to be cooked. These people are in the far extreme and usually militantly outspoken, blabbing to everybody, every minute of the day, about the "health benefits" of their food choices.

She falls into the last category. If she wants to be fired because of that choice, well, it is her choice to be fired.
 
2013-05-17 08:04:09 AM

Gyrfalcon: buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?

Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.


This. What kind of bullshiat is this? I have a preschooler, and all my wtf still isn't enough to figure this out. Is this a private program? One of those prestigious "my kid goes to the MIT of preschools" places? Are we so concerned with immersing out 4-5 year-olds in education that even lunch has to be a class?

Stop treating schools like they're the sole source of education and teach your own kids something. For us, school is there to fill in the blanks, because curriculums are designed for the lowest common denominator. It's our job as his parents to teach him about the world and foster a healthy interest in the arts and sciences. School is there mainly for the social skills.

My 5 year-old is getting pretty good at working a Dobsonian telescope. He wanted that in lieu of toys for his birthday. He also doesn't give a shiat about what his teacher eats for lunch (I just asked him).
 
2013-05-17 08:11:25 AM
This woman just isn't following the rules set for all teachers at this school.  It has nothing to do with the type of food she is eating.

It wouldn't matter if she was eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

She just doesn't want the rules to apply to her.  She wants to be a precious little snowflake that the man that is more than twice her age treats her as at home.
 
2013-05-17 08:31:57 AM

angrycrank: If they won't let her eat her own lunch and expect the teachers to talk with the kids about the food, that is not a "break", and she needs to be given an actual lunch break. Not 10 minutes, and not "you can try to eat during nap time" (when chances are at least one kid won't sleep, plus there's tons to do to get the place in order while the little hellions sweethearts are quiet.) Whether her diet is legit or flaky is beside the point unless she's bringing in stuff that could cause problems for the kids.


This. If you work a full day you are supposed to have a lunch break (not 10 minutes). The school is trying to make teachers' lunch breaks coincide with the kids' lunch breaks. It's probably a way to hire less teachers so that they don't have to worry about coverage when one teacher is on a lunch break. You can make this about her choice of diet, but it's really about giving a full day teacher a reasonable break in which she can choose to eat her own lunch if she wants.
 
2013-05-17 08:32:42 AM
FTA: "They're making me eat my lunch away from everybody else just because my director feels uncomfortable about the situation."

Because the DIRECTOR knows they're feeding the kids total slop, AND he wants teachers to field questions from the kids about the food!!!
"You're eating manufactured GMO slop kid, and you'll have cancer at age 35."
"What's GMO?"
And so the can of worms is opened...............

In such a natural place as Hawaii, why are the kids eating CRAP?
 
2013-05-17 08:34:18 AM
Threaten the employer with the ADA. If you have to eat a special diet, the employer has to accommodate you.
 
2013-05-17 08:36:45 AM

LesserEvil: I don't see the problem here. She can eat whatever she wants, but if it's not the school's food, she cannot eat it in front of the students.

Why is this so hard for people like her?

Nobody is discriminating against her for her food choice, and the only reason she is being "singled out" is because she is the only one breaking the rule, much like criminals are "singled out" for, you know, breaking the law.

Cripes, lady, go to the break room, eat your "organic raw vegan lunch" and STFU already.

The organic crowd is mildly annoying - pushing food for the world that is unsustainable at the Earth's current population numbers.

The Organic Vegan crowd is slightly more annoying, many wandering into PETA territory with their condescending attitudes about animal treatment.

Organic Vegan Raw morans are, well, morans. Some foods have to be cooked. These people are in the far extreme and usually militantly outspoken, blabbing to everybody, every minute of the day, about the "health benefits" of their food choices.

She falls into the last category. If she wants to be fired because of that choice, well, it is her choice to be fired.


Great. Since you see no problem with it, then you can start eating your lunch during a single 10 minute break.

But that's not really your point, is it? You think that because someone eats a diet that's probably healthier than yours, they are inferior to you and can "STFU."
 
2013-05-17 08:40:25 AM
To be fair, the husband is a dumbass for making this seem like a case of discrimination.
 
2013-05-17 09:46:00 AM

zobear: Why doesn't she get a note from her doctor?  If they refuse to make reasonable accommodations for her, she could file a complaint with the state's AG under ADA.

/seems pretty straightforward to me.


Of course she can do that, but the overarching issue here is that this school has a really farking stupid policy.
 
2013-05-17 09:55:51 AM
We need to study this school closely because they have managed to solve all the other problems that schools have.
 
2013-05-17 10:00:24 AM

puddleonfire: In such a natural place as Hawaii, why are the kids eating CRAP?


Have you ever been to a Hawaiian restaurant?  I am not kidding when I say that a common meal will be fried spam on top of white rice covered with gravy, with macaroni salad on the side.  Hawaii is not exactly known for healthy eating.

/mmm, Spam Loco
 
2013-05-17 10:19:50 AM
I'm sorry, that should have been "a fried egg on top of fried spam over white rice, covered with gravy."
 
2013-05-17 10:20:16 AM
Hawaii does not have any laws about requiring lunch or other breaks for their workers. Personally I think the school district are being jerks but that is within their rights.

New Headline: "24 year old shocked to learn that the world is not fair"
 
2013-05-17 10:47:09 AM
"Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?"


Doesn't really matter if it works.
 
2013-05-17 11:16:55 AM

cubicghost: It sounds like during lunch preschool food is served. The teachers that wish to eat the preschool food are allowed to eat with the children. The teachers who do not want to take advantage of this for any reason are there to answer questions, but more likely to maintain order.This teacher does not want to eat the food the school provides so instead she has to eat on her lunch break.

What is the big deal?


That she does not in fact have a lunch break. Which is actually, far as I know, illegal.
 
2013-05-17 11:24:00 AM

puddleonfire: FTA: "They're making me eat my lunch away from everybody else just because my director feels uncomfortable about the situation."

Because the DIRECTOR knows they're feeding the kids total slop, AND he wants teachers to field questions from the kids about the food!!!
"You're eating manufactured GMO slop kid, and you'll have cancer at age 35."
"What's GMO?"
And so the can of worms is opened...............

In such a natural place as Hawaii, why are the kids eating CRAP?


What a huge conclusion to jump to.  Who says their food is crap?  Where, in the article, was there any mention of what the food is?  All we know is that it isn't "vegan organic".  It could be an entirely healthy meal, but has meat and canned peaches.

Many of you are jumping on the "the school food is crap" bandwagon without knowing what the school food is.

/ Not that it matters.  She still shouldn't eat something different in front of the kids if they allow kids to ask questions about the school meals.
 
2013-05-17 11:29:08 AM
Doesn't this selfish woman realize she is shaping young minds?  Does she want to start a riot?

gifninja.com
 
2013-05-17 11:40:14 AM

orbister: StoPPeRmobile: Were you, as a child? I think you are full of it. I could give a fark what others ate as a child.

Small children (this is a preschool) are often very suspicious of new food. That may be an evolutionary advantage, but it can make it difficult to get them to try something new. One sure way to fail is to say "Here is some lovely, delicious food which will make to strong and healthy. Am I going to eat it too? Erm, no, because it's, I mean, erm, honest, you'll love it." If the school is serving muck, they should fix it, of course, but allowing staff to eat different food with the children is in general Not A Good Thing.




Bullies always find a way to bully.

Whatever, I think it's a crock. Never have seen a teacher eat the same food as the chillens. Must be a NY thing. Bunch of pussies everywhere else.

OK, food nuts, have fun with your "food sensitivity."
 
2013-05-17 11:47:57 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-05-17 11:51:09 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Whatever, I think it's a crock. Never have seen a teacher eat the same food as the chillens.


I probably wouldn't in preschool, but I've eaten an elementary-school lunch many a time (supplemented by the staff food like baked potatoes and salad bar in the back of the kitchen). Maybe not the best, but passable. And hey, lunch for two bucks.
 
2013-05-17 11:58:09 AM

PsychoLaurie: duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.

Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...


So you admit to wanting more with the guy and feeling like you're getting closer but his girlfriends are nuts for being jealous and somehow this is all the "HAGO's" fault and not the guy's for playing this game?
 
2013-05-17 12:04:17 PM

Gyrfalcon: buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?

Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.


How do policies like this even get made? Do they come from outer space or something?
 
2013-05-17 12:24:47 PM
so, let me get this straight. a teacher, on a regular basis, pulls out magic sandwitchs and tells the kids in the class  "this cured me". and when she gets fired, it's " they fired me for eating lunch". no they fired you for telling kids you have magic sandwitches.i  bet the principle was setting in his office saying " how the hell did we hire this lunatic". and he said to her,  many times "STOP BRINGING MAGIC SANDWITCH's TO LUNCH"!! and then she did it again. she didn't get fired for eating lunch, she got fired for bring magic sandwich to school. i  say to the principle  good for you. get rid of poeple like her. or next you'll have them telling kids that jesus rode a velocorapator.
 
2013-05-17 12:28:23 PM
My reading of this story is that this whole issue is not about the food or the breaks. It's about "authotritah", as in "respect my authoritah!!". A bunch of pussy-assed administrators choose to exert what little power they have in their lives over a teacher's assistant because she won't follow their little pissant rules to their satisfaction.

The kids don't really give a sh*t what their teacher's assistant eats, and if they did this would be a perfect example to teach them about things like organic foods, food allergies, whether bringing lunch from home is better, all that. Instead the petty tyrants she's working for choose to wag their tiny little penii at her while spouting "rules are rules" babble.

Fark them. Assholes like this are why I never went into teaching, and why many teachers (and even assistants) burn out in their first five years. It's also why people b*tching about teachers pisses me off, because they have no idea what petty bullsh*t they go through like this every day.
 
2013-05-17 12:31:15 PM
the point of the lunch period is that teachers eat what the students are being served.
 
2013-05-17 12:34:01 PM

buckler: StoPPeRmobile: Whatever, I think it's a crock. Never have seen a teacher eat the same food as the chillens.

I probably wouldn't in preschool, but I've eaten an elementary-school lunch many a time (supplemented by the staff food like baked potatoes and salad bar in the back of the kitchen). Maybe not the best, but passable. And hey, lunch for two bucks.




Teachers didn't eat with students in the schools I attended.
 
2013-05-17 12:57:35 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.


Oh booooohooooo when I was a kid I had a teacher that would openly mock the students while eating cookies and sandwiches. "You want to eat some food? NO EATING ALLOWED IN THE CLASSROOM FOR STUDENTS HAHAHAHAHA OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!"
 
2013-05-17 01:58:44 PM

LesserEvil: I don't see the problem here. She can eat whatever she wants, but if it's not the school's food, she cannot eat it in front of the students.

Why is this so hard for people like her?

Nobody is discriminating against her for her food choice, and the only reason she is being "singled out" is because she is the only one breaking the rule, much like criminals are "singled out" for, you know, breaking the law.

Cripes, lady, go to the break room, eat your "organic raw vegan lunch" and STFU already.
Looks like she is required to work during her "break"  OSHA says you get 30 mins for lunch, so long as i am not drink beer or cocktails infront of the little snowflakes what i eat is my on business. If i am required to wok then it is not a "break"

The organic crowd is mildly annoying - pushing food for the world that is unsustainable at the Earth's current population numbers.

The Organic Vegan crowd is slightly more annoying, many wandering into PETA territory with their condescending attitudes about animal treatment.

Organic Vegan Raw morans are, well, morans. Some foods have to be cooked. These people are in the far extreme and usually militantly outspoken, blabbing to everybody, every minute of the day, about the "health benefits" of their food choices.

She falls into the last category. If she wants to be fired because of that choice, well, it is her choice to be fired.

 
2013-05-17 07:23:56 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Whatever, I think it's a crock. Never have seen a teacher eat the same food as the chillens. Must be a NY thing.


I visit a lot of UK schools as part of my work and I've eaten a lot of school lunches. I have never been to a school where adults and children were served different food, though of course some adults and some children take in packed lunches.
 
2013-05-17 07:24:08 PM

HindiDiscoMonster: Liberal Politics: Ta-da!

shhhh... your supposed to bash "fatties" here... not give them legit reasons why they might be fat.


That's StoPPeRmobile's shtick. Why step on his lines?
 
2013-05-17 07:30:46 PM

Russ1642: How do policies like this even get made? Do they come from outer space or something?


What do you think unreasonable about a policy which says "We like mealtimes to be like those in a family, with adults and children sitting down, eating and chatting together"?
 
2013-05-17 07:35:17 PM

rewind2846: The kids don't really give a sh*t what their teacher's assistant eats, and if they did this would be a perfect example to teach them about things like organic foods, food allergies


Indeed. "Miss Jones thinks she has a food allergy. How do we know she has not? Yes, that's right, allergies have real and serious symptoms, not vague feelings of discontent. Miss Jones also thinks that organic food helps. We know that's nonsense, because organic food is chemically identical to normal food. Now, can anyone tell me why Miss Jones is eating food which doesn't help a condition she doesn't have? Right again. She's attention seeking and we all know that attention seeking is bad don't we. Apart from Miss Jones, of  course".

Lots of good teaching points to be made. Go for it.
 
2013-05-17 10:24:06 PM

Dazrin: I thought that too and then was distracted by the age difference - he is 53, she is 24? She won't be even half his age for more than 3 more years! Yikes.


She will never be half his age. Think about it.
 
2013-05-17 10:25:39 PM
In a warning letter issued to Lee O'Connell on Monday, KCAA's Kuapa campus director Wendy Nishimura wrote the following: "Staff who choose not to eat the meals provided, may eat their own food during their break or after the meal service for the children is completed."

What does the employee handbook say? You do have one, right?
 
2013-05-17 10:42:00 PM

illannoyin: I will also need pics of the teacher's assistant FTA to determine my level of caring on this issue.


Five or six posts up.
 
2013-05-17 10:46:54 PM

Insurgent: not even considering the health issue, as others have pointed out, this is illegal unless she gets a separate 30 min break for herself at a later time. article doesn't say, but i think she should be able to eat with everyone else.


Hourly or salary? It makes a difference where I live.
 
2013-05-17 11:01:02 PM

puddleonfire: FTA: "They're making me eat my lunch away from everybody else just because my director feels uncomfortable about the situation."

Because the DIRECTOR knows they're feeding the kids total slop, AND he wants teachers to field questions from the kids about the food!!!
"You're eating manufactured GMO slop kid, and you'll have cancer at age 35."
"What's GMO?"
And so the can of worms is opened...............

In such a natural place as Hawaii, why are the kids eating CRAP?


Honolulu is not exactly natural. All big cities are the same no matter where they are located.
 
2013-05-17 11:10:11 PM

KawaiiNot: Hawaii does not have any laws about requiring lunch or other breaks for their workers. Personally I think the school district are being jerks but that is within their rights.

New Headline: "24 year old shocked to learn that the world is not fair"


They kind of do.

Hawaii does not have any laws requiring an employer to provide a meal period or breaks to employees 16 years of age or older, thus the federal rule applies. The federal rule does not require an employer to provide either a meal (lunch) period or breaks. However, if an employer chooses to do so, breaks, usually of the type lasting less than 20 minutes, must be paid. Meal or lunch periods (usually 30 minutes or more) do not need to be paid, so long as the employee is free to do as they wish during the meal or lunch period.

From TFA:

Lee O'Connell counters that a 10-minute break isn't always conducive to eating lunch, and she prefers the half-hour set aside by the school, which begins at 11:20 a.m.

Not cut and dried here.
 
BBH
2013-05-17 11:26:25 PM
Looks like a Charter school, they can do whatever they want to their employees.
 
2013-05-18 04:28:46 AM
You're not allowed to discriminate against people with allergies. She has them so instead of forcing the school to only prepare things she can eat(as some people try to do), she's bringing her own.

I really don't see why this is such a big deal...
 
2013-05-18 05:03:14 AM

saturn badger: Dazrin: I thought that too and then was distracted by the age difference - he is 53, she is 24? She won't be even half his age for more than 3 more years! Yikes.

She will never be half his age. Think about it.


I DNRTFA, but wouldn't she be half his age when she's 29? He'll be 58. Or is there a joke I'm not seeing here?
 
2013-05-18 07:05:42 AM
It boggles my mind how regimented schools have become to allow the little snow flakes to self actualize.
 
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