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(KITV Honolulu)   School threatens to fire 24-year-old teacher's assistant because she's: A) sleeping with students, B) sending naked pics to students, C) eating her homemade organic lunches in front of the students   (kitv.com) divider line 136
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2013-05-17 02:40:23 AM
Why doesn't she get a note from her doctor?  If they refuse to make reasonable accommodations for her, she could file a complaint with the state's AG under ADA.

/seems pretty straightforward to me.
 
2013-05-17 02:40:52 AM

HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.


It sounds like that person would have the option to eat food away from the children or during their break, as she is being asked to do.
 
2013-05-17 02:42:08 AM

JasonGriffee: Mithiwithi: JasonGriffee: This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

I sympathize with whatever hash your local politicians have made of public health care in your little corner of the planet, but you should be aware that most Farkers are Americans and won't be familiar with health care law in your country.

I AM an American.


From an alternate universe, then, where there was a universal health care program put in place that increased the debt and crushed the economy?

(Does Leonard Nimoy have a beard where you come from?)
 
2013-05-17 02:46:40 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.


You sound like a fat kid.
 
2013-05-17 02:48:32 AM
ShawnDoc:

Bonus points since just about every study out there shows little to no nutritional difference between organic and non-organically grown food.

What about vitamin O?

\homeopathically effective
\\the proof is that "scientists" in "Corporate America" can't measure it
 
2013-05-17 02:48:36 AM

Fell In Love With a Chair: Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down-


www.smthop.com
 
2013-05-17 02:55:20 AM

PsychoLaurie: duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.

Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...


You know, your acronym would be more logical *and* snarkier if you just went with HAG.

/four years building a fortress of bitterness in the friendzone of a shallow shallow shallow guy? that does sound a little psycho...
 
2013-05-17 02:56:30 AM

JamesSirBensonMum: HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.

It sounds like that person would have the option to eat food away from the children or during their break, as she is being asked to do.


She's being given the option of either eating their harmful food during her standard 30 minute lunch time, or to work through her lunch time and eat it during a 10 minute coffee break at a different time of day.
 
2013-05-17 02:58:49 AM
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2013-05-17 03:00:53 AM

wademh: What about vitamin O?


Yeah, I get as much of the Big O as my wife will let me have.
 
2013-05-17 03:03:41 AM
Look, It's an unwritten rule for school that if you didn't bring enough for everyone, don't bring any at all!
 
2013-05-17 03:03:53 AM

cubicghost: What is the big deal?


Hippie liberal indoctrination by ivory tower elitists. Or something.
 
2013-05-17 03:07:05 AM

HotWingAgenda: JamesSirBensonMum: HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.

It sounds like that person would have the option to eat food away from the children or during their break, as she is being asked to do.

She's being given the option of either eating their harmful food during her standard 30 minute lunch time, or to work through her lunch time and eat it during a 10 minute coffee break at a different time of day.


actually it's the last ten minutes of the regular lunch break, from what i can tell. she's being asked to scarf down her lunch in ten minutes so the kids won't be exposed to her food. pretty ridiculous.

not even considering the health issue, as others have pointed out, this is illegal unless she gets a separate 30 min break for herself at a later time. article doesn't say, but i think she should be able to eat with everyone else.
 
2013-05-17 03:11:08 AM
Oh, is she hot?
 
2013-05-17 03:12:13 AM

worlddan: The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.


That's farking retarded.
 
2013-05-17 03:12:36 AM

Insurgent: as others have pointed out, this is illegal unless she gets a separate 30 min break for herself at a later time. article doesn't say, but i think she should be able to eat with everyone else.


To spite her they'd probably give her 30 1-minute breaks.
 
2013-05-17 03:16:37 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


From stopping eating school lunches to eating actual food? Damn I'm 44 and still remember how god awful nasty school lunches were, how old are you that you think teachers eating actual food instead of school food is placebo when they get better?
 
2013-05-17 03:21:21 AM

buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?


Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.
 
2013-05-17 03:30:43 AM
My SIL worked at preschool as a teacher's assistant and had to eat the snack they served because she was supposed to model proper behavior and manners. I just remember because there was something served that she would rather have not eaten. Not an allergy and she did eat it, just a preference for not eating that item.
 
2013-05-17 03:35:23 AM

Gyrfalcon: buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?

Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.




No wonder kids are fatties.

Fricken morans.
 
2013-05-17 03:40:47 AM

flondrix: They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.


Which is perfectly reasonable. Children will naturally be suspicious of any food which their teacher refuses to eat.
 
2013-05-17 03:41:48 AM

worlddan: The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.


Holy crap, that is really really stupid.
 
2013-05-17 03:46:06 AM
FTFA: "It's definitely a possibility," said Lee O'Connell, "but it's not to say that it's guaranteed that during my break time I'm not going to have a personal issue that comes up, and I have to take care of that first before I can be able to sit down to eat."

Is this the world's most complicated way of saying "I might have to go to the toilet"?
 
2013-05-17 03:50:34 AM

orbister: FTFA: "It's definitely a possibility," said Lee O'Connell, "but it's not to say that it's guaranteed that during my break time I'm not going to have a personal issue that comes up, and I have to take care of that first before I can be able to sit down to eat."

Is this the world's most complicated way of saying "I might have to go to the toilet"?


Nah, she just can't go 10 minutes within shlicking.
 
2013-05-17 03:51:32 AM

HotWingAgenda: orbister: FTFA: "It's definitely a possibility," said Lee O'Connell, "but it's not to say that it's guaranteed that during my break time I'm not going to have a personal issue that comes up, and I have to take care of that first before I can be able to sit down to eat."

Is this the world's most complicated way of saying "I might have to go to the toilet"?

Nah, she just can't go 10 minutes without shlicking.


FTFM
 
2013-05-17 03:53:47 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


I have a friend that switched to a organic vegan diet and swears she is so much healthier on it. But then she always posts on facebook about how she keeps getting sick. I find it a bit comical and sad at the same time. But she is also the type to believe in the Big Pharm/GMO conspiracies too.
 
2013-05-17 03:57:00 AM

orbister: flondrix: They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.

Which is perfectly reasonable. Children will naturally be suspicious of any food which their teacher refuses to eat.




Were you, as a child? I think you are full of it. I could give a fark what others ate as a child.

Laughed at you fatties then. Laugh at you fatties now.

Stop being fat.
 
2013-05-17 05:28:28 AM

99.998er: So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.

[www.kitv.com image 400x300]


It is. That older guy who works the register at whole foods gets more tang than a an astronaut.
 
2013-05-17 05:47:51 AM

JasonGriffee: I'm not surprised. The state doesn't want people out there making good healthy choices. This is just another attempt to intimidate into conformity. If the teacher eats her own lunch for too long, students are going to wonder why she isn't eating the same foods as them. They want a teacher that will go along and teach kids to eat whatever rotten slop is put in front of them.

When you look at the actual nutrient facts on public-school food, you will find it outrageous. I've heard of Mac and Cheese meals that top 3000 calories. It is my truest opinion that public schools are a major contributer in the ever-expanding health-crisis. This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

Liberal Politics: Ta-da!


shhhh... your supposed to bash "fatties" here... not give them legit reasons why they might be fat.
 
2013-05-17 05:54:29 AM
I...but...that doesn't...AAARGH GOD DAMMIT.

Take it away, George:

i815.photobucket.com

Domo.
 
2013-05-17 06:24:03 AM
manhattaninfidel.comKCAA Preschools of Hawaii officials.
 
2013-05-17 06:26:57 AM

99.998er: So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.

[www.kitv.com image 400x300]


Really, that's farked up. Way to go, creepy balding graying gross middle-aged dude!
 
2013-05-17 06:42:38 AM
I am more distraught over the age difference in the marriage than anything else.
 
2013-05-17 06:53:49 AM
What kind of bullshiat brainwashing is going on here?
 
2013-05-17 07:04:45 AM

StoPPeRmobile: Were you, as a child? I think you are full of it. I could give a fark what others ate as a child.


Small children (this is a preschool) are often very suspicious of new food. That may be an evolutionary advantage, but it can make it difficult to get them to try something new. One sure way to fail is to say "Here is some lovely, delicious food which will make to strong and healthy. Am I going to eat it too? Erm, no, because it's, I mean, erm, honest, you'll love it." If the school is serving muck, they should fix it, of course, but allowing staff to eat different food with the children is in general Not A Good Thing.
 
2013-05-17 07:05:42 AM

Death Whisper: KCAA Preschools of Hawaii officials.


The individuals in that pic are far smarter than the school officials.
 
2013-05-17 07:32:34 AM
Is that his mail order bride?
 
2013-05-17 07:36:42 AM
Um ... everyone did read the whole article and saw that this place is a private school, right?

Also this, bolding mine:

KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap.

Pretty sure the kids are down for at least a half an hour.

It's not the food, it's the time that she chooses to eat it.  I'm sure that if another teacher brought in a Lean Cuisine and a diet Coke and ate it at the kids' lunchtime it would be the same situation.  Trying to blame this on "oh, they don't like my organic food!" is BS.  She wants to eat when she wants.  The school says otherwise.  Suck it up, snowflake.
 
2013-05-17 07:43:17 AM

squirrelflavoredyogurt: From stopping eating school lunches to eating actual food? Damn I'm 44 and still remember how god awful nasty school lunches were, how old are you that you think teachers eating actual food instead of school food is placebo when they get better?


Unless she has either a messed up immune system or an actual allergy to something in the school food, changing her diet for one meal out of the (probable) 3 per day should not affect her health "instantly". Either the husband is being hyperbolic or at least part of her rapidly improved health is psychosomatic. Or she has an actual allergic reaction to something in the school food, in which case the fact that her lunches are "raw, natural organic food" has little to do with her improved, but rather simply that she's no longer consuming the allergen.

Don't mind me. Just sick of the hype and overuse of "raw", "natural", and "organic" as positive things with regards to food. Tetrodotoxin in badly prepared fugu is raw, natural, and organic, but I wouldn't look to it to improve anyone's health. ;)
 
2013-05-17 07:44:29 AM

Marisyana: Um ... everyone did read the whole article and saw that this place is a private school, right?

Also this, bolding mine:

KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap.

Pretty sure the kids are down for at least a half an hour.

It's not the food, it's the time that she chooses to eat it.  I'm sure that if another teacher brought in a Lean Cuisine and a diet Coke and ate it at the kids' lunchtime it would be the same situation.  Trying to blame this on "oh, they don't like my organic food!" is BS.  She wants to eat when she wants.  The school says otherwise.  Suck it up, snowflake.


God forbid she wants eat during LUNCH time, and for the whole 30 minutes allowed.
 
2013-05-17 07:44:37 AM

mamoru: Or she has an actual allergic reaction to something in the school food, in which case the fact that her lunches are "raw, natural organic food" has little to do with her improved health, but rather simply that she's no longer consuming the allergen.


FTFM.
 
2013-05-17 07:47:03 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


Claim ADA. It works for the "peanut allergy" kids.
 
2013-05-17 07:53:11 AM

KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.  It's just a matter of her eating outside food rather than which the school provides.  It's a pretty stupid rule though.  I can't see any real reason for it whatsoever.


We had that rule when I worked for Head Start. For a while, I took a plate of small servings and would eat a bit of it cause it was the rule, then eat healthier during nap time. It got to be a huge hassle to have to pack a cooler daily, so I started just eating the high calorie stuff they served and gained 30lbs in a few short months.
 
2013-05-17 07:56:18 AM

angrycrank: If they won't let her eat her own lunch and expect the teachers to talk with the kids about the food, that is not a "break", and she needs to be given an actual lunch break. Not 10 minutes, and not "you can try to eat during nap time" (when chances are at least one kid won't sleep, plus there's tons to do to get the place in order while the little hellions sweethearts are quiet.) Whether her diet is legit or flaky is beside the point unless she's bringing in stuff that could cause problems for the kids.


That's the part that caught my attention as well. My school district gives us a 30 minute unpaid lunch break. However, if any of our students (special ed high school freshmen) feel uncomfortable about eating their lunch in the cafeteria (common amongst Asperger's and autistic kids), kids are sent to the special ed office to eat lunch. The same office where we are eating our lunch. And if the kid has a question about homework, we're expected to answer it and help the kid out.

There are some days where I'm only able to eat my lunch during the 4 minute passing period between lunch and the Core 4 class.

It's my first year with this school district. There are many things that the school district does (or doesn't do) that really bother me. Since my contract isn't automatically renewed (all teachers and teacher's aides are on contracts and there is no guarantee that your contract will be renewed. You're not notified until August 1 if you're receiving a new contract and the school year starts August 14), I'm going to be looking for other work - either a completely different job or same job at a neighboring district.
 
2013-05-17 08:01:45 AM
I don't see the problem here. She can eat whatever she wants, but if it's not the school's food, she cannot eat it in front of the students.

Why is this so hard for people like her?

Nobody is discriminating against her for her food choice, and the only reason she is being "singled out" is because she is the only one breaking the rule, much like criminals are "singled out" for, you know, breaking the law.

Cripes, lady, go to the break room, eat your "organic raw vegan lunch" and STFU already.

The organic crowd is mildly annoying - pushing food for the world that is unsustainable at the Earth's current population numbers.

The Organic Vegan crowd is slightly more annoying, many wandering into PETA territory with their condescending attitudes about animal treatment.

Organic Vegan Raw morans are, well, morans. Some foods have to be cooked. These people are in the far extreme and usually militantly outspoken, blabbing to everybody, every minute of the day, about the "health benefits" of their food choices.

She falls into the last category. If she wants to be fired because of that choice, well, it is her choice to be fired.
 
2013-05-17 08:04:09 AM

Gyrfalcon: buckler: KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?

Yeah, huh?

It is possible this is the dumbest school policy I have ever heard in my entire life, and that's saying quite a lot.


This. What kind of bullshiat is this? I have a preschooler, and all my wtf still isn't enough to figure this out. Is this a private program? One of those prestigious "my kid goes to the MIT of preschools" places? Are we so concerned with immersing out 4-5 year-olds in education that even lunch has to be a class?

Stop treating schools like they're the sole source of education and teach your own kids something. For us, school is there to fill in the blanks, because curriculums are designed for the lowest common denominator. It's our job as his parents to teach him about the world and foster a healthy interest in the arts and sciences. School is there mainly for the social skills.

My 5 year-old is getting pretty good at working a Dobsonian telescope. He wanted that in lieu of toys for his birthday. He also doesn't give a shiat about what his teacher eats for lunch (I just asked him).
 
2013-05-17 08:11:25 AM
This woman just isn't following the rules set for all teachers at this school.  It has nothing to do with the type of food she is eating.

It wouldn't matter if she was eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

She just doesn't want the rules to apply to her.  She wants to be a precious little snowflake that the man that is more than twice her age treats her as at home.
 
2013-05-17 08:31:57 AM

angrycrank: If they won't let her eat her own lunch and expect the teachers to talk with the kids about the food, that is not a "break", and she needs to be given an actual lunch break. Not 10 minutes, and not "you can try to eat during nap time" (when chances are at least one kid won't sleep, plus there's tons to do to get the place in order while the little hellions sweethearts are quiet.) Whether her diet is legit or flaky is beside the point unless she's bringing in stuff that could cause problems for the kids.


This. If you work a full day you are supposed to have a lunch break (not 10 minutes). The school is trying to make teachers' lunch breaks coincide with the kids' lunch breaks. It's probably a way to hire less teachers so that they don't have to worry about coverage when one teacher is on a lunch break. You can make this about her choice of diet, but it's really about giving a full day teacher a reasonable break in which she can choose to eat her own lunch if she wants.
 
2013-05-17 08:32:42 AM
FTA: "They're making me eat my lunch away from everybody else just because my director feels uncomfortable about the situation."

Because the DIRECTOR knows they're feeding the kids total slop, AND he wants teachers to field questions from the kids about the food!!!
"You're eating manufactured GMO slop kid, and you'll have cancer at age 35."
"What's GMO?"
And so the can of worms is opened...............

In such a natural place as Hawaii, why are the kids eating CRAP?
 
2013-05-17 08:34:18 AM
Threaten the employer with the ADA. If you have to eat a special diet, the employer has to accommodate you.
 
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