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(KITV Honolulu)   School threatens to fire 24-year-old teacher's assistant because she's: A) sleeping with students, B) sending naked pics to students, C) eating her homemade organic lunches in front of the students   (kitv.com) divider line 136
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2013-05-16 10:26:09 PM
Everything was just fine until she decided to dip her cucumber.
 
2013-05-17 12:05:58 AM
I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.
 
2013-05-17 01:10:16 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I farking hated it when teachers would eat in front of us in class. We would be sitting there hungry and not allowed to so much as chew gum, and the teachers would sit there sipping on Diet Sprite and eating Chex Mix. Awesome.


While that annoying it's not what this teacher's assistant is doing.
 
2013-05-17 01:27:00 AM
From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.



Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?
 
2013-05-17 01:28:01 AM
In my day kids used to vandalize schools to make a point.

these days kids in teachers college should be the ones doing the dirty.

why anyone would want to work in a sue happy PC by the book plus fine print. Culture like public school is beyond me
 
2013-05-17 01:29:08 AM
They expect her to field questions about the food being served, so that's why she can't eat her prepared lunch? Have these assholes ever met a pre-schooler? Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down- they think the litter box is an almond roca dispenser. Christ.
 
2013-05-17 01:32:07 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


And here I thought I was the only one thinking this.
 
2013-05-17 01:32:46 AM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: these days kids in teachers college should be the ones doing the dirty.


Out of context but fitting nonetheless.

/Just not in this story.
//Soon though, I'm sure.
 
2013-05-17 01:35:21 AM

jayphat: mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?

And here I thought I was the only one thinking this.


I thought that too and then was distracted by the age difference - he is 53, she is 24? She won't be even half his age for more than 3 more years! Yikes.
 
2013-05-17 01:37:03 AM
ok.. why is this a 'thing' ?
 
2013-05-17 01:37:32 AM
Somehow I was hoping she blew a big cloud of peanut dust all over the students.

Oh well....
 
2013-05-17 01:39:26 AM
Maybe if the school didn't serve swill for lunch, she could eat what's being served.  My kids' school still has the standard packaged burrito, lumpy corn dog or squaretangle of pizza, but the kids select their own side dishes from a salad bar of fresh fruits and veggies.
 
2013-05-17 01:39:29 AM
It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.  It's just a matter of her eating outside food rather than which the school provides.  It's a pretty stupid rule though.  I can't see any real reason for it whatsoever.
 
2013-05-17 01:43:46 AM
Dazrin:
And here I thought I was the only one thinking this.

I thought that too and then was distracted by the age difference - he is 53, she is 24? She won't be even half his age for more than 3 more years! Yikes.


You underestimate his ornate knowledge of "raw, natural organic food", though. Few will live long enough to acquire that knowledge.
 
2013-05-17 01:43:47 AM

Fell In Love With a Chair: They expect her to field questions about the food being served, so that's why she can't eat her prepared lunch? Have these assholes ever met a pre-schooler? Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down- they think the litter box is an almond roca dispenser. Christ.


Yeah, not sure why this would prevent her from discussing the food with the kids. I mean, other than the taste of it. In fact her explanation of why she's not eating it could be a teachable moment for the students.
 
2013-05-17 01:50:19 AM

mamoru: "Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.

Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


Possibly.  "Organic" is snake oil, but preparing lunches at home from scratch means more control over the ingredient list.

In any case, the school sounds like control freaks.  But of course that is redundant.
 
2013-05-17 01:50:22 AM

KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.

Thankya.  Not sure why they had a code of separating the teachers from kids during mealtimes but her diet choice had apparently nothing to do with it...but it makes a nice side story for the oblivious.
 
2013-05-17 01:52:32 AM

berylman: KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.
Thankya.  Not sure why they had a code of separating the teachers from kids during mealtimes but her diet choice had apparently nothing to do with it...but it makes a nice side story for the oblivious.


Read again.  They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.
 
2013-05-17 01:53:21 AM
If they won't let her eat her own lunch and expect the teachers to talk with the kids about the food, that is not a "break", and she needs to be given an actual lunch break. Not 10 minutes, and not "you can try to eat during nap time" (when chances are at least one kid won't sleep, plus there's tons to do to get the place in order while the little hellions sweethearts are quiet.) Whether her diet is legit or flaky is beside the point unless she's bringing in stuff that could cause problems for the kids.
 
2013-05-17 01:54:24 AM

fusillade762: Yeah, not sure why this would prevent her from discussing the food with the kids.


Because Separation of Organic Food and State, that's why.
The kids should be able to go to school and have true school food without having fairytale malarkey shoved down their throats.
I wouldn't want to have my kid convert to Organics just because the teacher put that bug in their ear.
When they're old enough they can decide on their own which they choose to believe is the better food.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:30 AM
53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.
 
2013-05-17 01:55:49 AM
What the fark?
 
2013-05-17 01:55:51 AM
KCAA president Christina Cox said O'Connell is allowed to eat homemade lunches during a paid break, or after kids go down for their nap, but the objective of lunch time is to provide a family-style setting where teachers and staff field questions about the food that's being served.

Huh?
 
2013-05-17 01:56:32 AM
It sounds like during lunch preschool food is served. The teachers that wish to eat the preschool food are allowed to eat with the children. The teachers who do not want to take advantage of this for any reason are there to answer questions, but more likely to maintain order.This teacher does not want to eat the food the school provides so instead she has to eat on her lunch break.

What is the big deal?
 
2013-05-17 01:56:35 AM
Is "organic" the new magic word that makes all criticism dissapear?
 
2013-05-17 01:58:29 AM

flondrix: Read again.  They want the teachers to eat with the kids, eating the same food.  Teachers who bring their own food are supposed to scarf it down during a 10 min break rather than flaunt their non-conformity.

You're  right! (apolizes, sincere).. damn that must suck scarfing down meat from the unknown zone ... I would bring a salad of my own design too.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:30 AM
Hawaii doesn't have specific laws regarding adults and meal breaks, so federal law applies. If she is not paid for the lunch break, they are breaking the law because employees must be allowed to do what they want. Otherwise, she really has no recourse.
 
2013-05-17 01:59:49 AM
I'm not surprised. The state doesn't want people out there making good healthy choices. This is just another attempt to intimidate into conformity. If the teacher eats her own lunch for too long, students are going to wonder why she isn't eating the same foods as them. They want a teacher that will go along and teach kids to eat whatever rotten slop is put in front of them.

When you look at the actual nutrient facts on public-school food, you will find it outrageous. I've heard of Mac and Cheese meals that top 3000 calories. It is my truest opinion that public schools are a major contributer in the ever-expanding health-crisis. This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

Liberal Politics: Ta-da!
 
2013-05-17 02:02:26 AM
So if she was eating Gummi Bears and Ding Dongs in front of the kids, would that be OK too?  Because you know some chubby curvy teacher is going to start bringing those in for herself when the rules can be broken.

Also, if kids get to ask questions about lunches, I could see them asking her why hers is different and she says "the school lunches were making me sick".  Then, suddenly, you get 50 sick kids on your hands, all demanding Romanesco cauliflower and Quinoa salads with slightly rotten tomatoes, with a glass of raw milk.

/ Disclaimer: I'm not a parent, so have no experience with pre-school aged children
// Slashies haven't caught on in the business e-mail world yet, so I like using them here when I get the chance.
/// SLASHIES!
 
2013-05-17 02:03:43 AM
cubicghost - What is the big deal?

Umm... the fact that if you eat the school swill, (which aggravates her allergies), you get 30 minutes. If you choose to eat your healther food, you get a whole ten minutes. Its not fair. Of course, I can hear the 'who said life is fair' crew warming up in the wings, so let me make sure to point out that it is people who make life unfair. Life knows no such concept. Humans created it. And, therefore, humans can strive to make fairness in everyones life.
 
2013-05-17 02:06:49 AM
I know I've been threatened with workplace violence for bringing outside food to work. I used to bring in lasagna and burp the tupperware as I walked past a co-worker who was doing Weight Watchers. It's not often a plump woman threatens to come over the cubical wall with a machete.

Fell In Love With a Chair:

They expect her to field questions about the food being served, so that's why she can't eat her prepared lunch? Have these assholes ever met a pre-schooler? Those lil farkers will eat anything not nailed down- they think the litter box is an almond roca dispenser. Christ.

My ex and I used to refer to our cat as "the Almond Roca dispenser," so yeah, I literally laughed out loud at your post. Thanks.
 
2013-05-17 02:07:44 AM
So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.

www.kitv.com
 
2013-05-17 02:12:24 AM
fark you teacher. You will eat your meat. How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat.

/odd
//the crazies are in charge
 
2013-05-17 02:15:12 AM

duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.


Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...
 
2013-05-17 02:15:52 AM
It's not really "both sides" if they can't get one side to talk to them.
I like the comment "Carissa says the breaks are only 10 minutes".

BOTH SIDES!
t.fod4.com
 
2013-05-17 02:16:02 AM

JasonGriffee: This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.


I sympathize with whatever hash your local politicians have made of public health care in your little corner of the planet, but you should be aware that most Farkers are Americans and won't be familiar with health care law in your country.
 
2013-05-17 02:20:36 AM
I could see this if she was bringing in Huli-huli black dog and a bucket of poi, but not wanting to eat the mass-produced processed food-substitute most public schools provide is reasonable and probably prudent. I'd go look for another job if I was her.
 
2013-05-17 02:20:49 AM

99.998er: So is that organic food gimmick a younger chick magnet thing? I am going to try it.


I think the having a little bit of money gimmick is an unattractive peasant native magnet.
 
2013-05-17 02:22:26 AM
The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.
 
2013-05-17 02:27:57 AM

mamoru: From TFA: When Carissa Lee O'Connell's husband Rick began preparing organic home lunches for his wife four months ago, the goal was to improve her severe nasal allergies.

"Instantly the allergies went away, the colds disappeared and it's all from just eating raw, natural organic food," Rick O'Connell, 53, told KITV4.


Anyone want to bet on this being psychosomatic / placebo effect?


Might also have been an intolerance to something else that was in her diet.  Usually when people make these changes, there's a lot more about the diet being changed (Less high-glycemic foods, less pre-prepared foods, etc) than just switching to organic produce.  They tend to credit "going organic" or "going raw" when in actually it was just they stopped eating shiat and started paying attention to what they were stuffing in their body.

Bonus points since just about every study out there shows little to no nutritional difference between organic and non-organically grown food.
 
2013-05-17 02:28:14 AM

KeithLM: It has nothing to do with her food being organic though, as much as the headline would like us to believe.  It's just a matter of her eating outside food rather than which the school provides.  It's a pretty stupid rule though.  I can't see any real reason for it whatsoever.


I think it's like the scene in 'Jaws' where the city councilman doesn't want to go in the water and the mayor tells him to do it anyway to let everyone else know it's safe.

I will also need pics of the teacher's assistant FTA to determine my level of caring on this issue.
 
2013-05-17 02:28:33 AM

StoPPeRmobile: fark you teacher. You will eat your meat. How can you eat your pudding if you don't eat your meat.


>:|
 
2013-05-17 02:28:37 AM

worlddan: The reason this rule exists is because the kids are supposed to ask questions about the food they eat. What is being missed in this story is the fact that the food they eat is tied into the curriculum. For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it? So the school likely has a food of the day in the same what the Sesame Street had a letter ("This episode brought to you by the letter Q") and that is tied into what is being served to the kids for lunch. So by insisting that she gets to eat something different she is screwing up the curriculum.

An example of this type of curriculum is here.


Maybe I'd agree if she was the only teacher, but there's other teachers with her that can explain that while she eats her own meals. Also why's she gotta farking eat it? You can explain food without eating it, holy shiat.
 
2013-05-17 02:29:02 AM

worlddan: For example, when they study Native Americans they serve corn...get it?


We call it "maize".

/Mazola! Corn Goodness!
 
2013-05-17 02:29:54 AM

PsychoLaurie: duenor: 53 to 24. yipes. that whole video is weird. the creepy gramps-got-the-girl kitchen kiss, the humongous orange-shirt guy in the tv station...

 however, this is a preschool. their school, their rules. you don't like it, go work somewhere else. this isn't a public school.

Ah!! The 53 year old husband bagged himself a HAGO (Hot Asian Girls Only). Several of my friends here in Hawaii are all over that damn demographic, which is shallow shallow shallow. I've had a crush on a guy friend of mine for four years and while we often get close to becoming "more," invariably he meets some freaking HAGO who immediately decides she is jealous of how close me and the guy are and treats me like crap. His latest even refers to me as "His Other Girlfriend." No, there is no love for HAGOs.

Take your lunch and eat somewhere else, ya freaking HAGO.

/As for the big guy in the orange shirt, that's Sports Anchor Robert Kekaula ...


Send BIE and I will find you a guy who is not only not a HAGO, but will stick dick in crazy, my friend PsychoLaurie.
 
2013-05-17 02:34:36 AM
What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.
 
2013-05-17 02:36:15 AM

Mithiwithi: JasonGriffee: This will lead to the inevitable fate of a nation that, as a whole, will need strong "Universal Health-care". Health-care that already, is showing major problems, like plummeting us deeper into debt, and crushing our economy.

I sympathize with whatever hash your local politicians have made of public health care in your little corner of the planet, but you should be aware that most Farkers are Americans and won't be familiar with health care law in your country.


I AM an American.
 
2013-05-17 02:37:38 AM
If they make her eat with her students then she's working. She should get a 30 minute real lunch too.
 
2013-05-17 02:38:05 AM
The school I went to for K-8th grade didn't have food of any kind on the premises. No cafeteria or vending machines.
You relied on whatever your parents put in your lunch box/thermos.
The only thing the school offered was milk in those mini cartons for 5 cents available at lunch times.
What the teachers did for lunch I have no idea, I never once saw any of them eat anything.

I remember on Wednesdays you were able to fill out a slip (and provide payment/parental approval) for McDonalds that they would mass-order (small school) and bring back for lunchtime but I probably got that maybe twice in all those years.

Would have loved the option of school food back then because there were plenty of days I went without and whatever they would have offered would have been worlds above what's served nowadays.

Lawn ------------------> You
 
2013-05-17 02:40:21 AM

HotWingAgenda: What the fark would the school do if she had a serious allergy?  I have a coworker who can't eat gluten (really, he's not just on a fad diet).  I know other people with life-threatening reactions to common foods.


That is an interesting question because there is a possible ADA claim here. However, this woman doesn't have an ADA claim because she is doing this on her own and has never seen a doctor. Seeing as she has no documented disability she has no claim under the ADA. But is she did have a documented disability it would get interesting. My guess, not knowing all the details of her particular situation, is that she could win such a case.
 
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