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(Huffington Post)   After 29 years, will Andy Kaufman please come home?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 22
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2013-05-17 07:55:49 AM
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The parallels between the Kaufman conspiracy nuts and the early Christian cults are interesting. The first written records of Jesus appeared about 50 years after his supposed death- what records are we going to see 50 years after Kaufmann's death?

We tend to think of everything in the modern world as recorded and known- but if people started writing Gospels of Andy, talking about how Kaufmann visited the true disciples in 1985, and they propose closed-door miracles of comedy, could the same sort of cult rise up?

What I'm trying to say here is that Jesus was a comedian.
2013-05-17 05:05:50 AM
2 votes:
Dude was a genius, he got paid to amuse himself at the expense of everyone else around him.

/trolling irl takes a lot more balls too
2013-05-17 02:48:36 AM
2 votes:

Gordon Bennett: i don't quite see him as trolling. I do think he was quite possibly a genuine Asperger's Syndrome sufferer. His work was innovative and very clever. He constantly toyed with the relationship between the performer and the audience, undermining the trust and expectations that an audience has when seeing a performance.


No one likes to admit it, mainly because they hate her guts, but Yoko Ono is also a pioneer of interactive performance art. Whereas Andy manipulated the audience, Ono would allow the audience to manipulate her. In the end, though, the audience is always the one to come away from the performance either self-aware and enlightened or dumbfounded and confused.

It's a shame Andy's gone now. He probably would have loved Fark.
2013-05-16 11:41:21 PM
2 votes:

Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.


Me neither.  I've never understood the "OMGZ he was a JEEEENyus!!!" crowd.
2013-05-16 10:03:17 PM
2 votes:
He was like a young Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan, so far ahead of the rest of the world in trolling that he was in a league all by himself. I remember being just as confused as everyone, bouncing between this guy is the greatest comedian ever and hoping someone with thorazine darts and a reinforced straightjacket was close by.
2013-05-17 08:45:33 PM
1 votes:
A lot the folks commenting didn't see Andy progress on SNL and other shows. They only see certain bits, taken out of context. Even the movie was a lot of stuff out of context.

At the time, it was shocking at first, and then frequently hilarious once you were let in on the joke.

Go watch the first few seasons of SNL. Not just the "best of" stuff, but the full episodes. In context, he works a lot better.
2013-05-17 05:05:44 PM
1 votes:
Andy Kaufman was an anti-performer performer. He wasn't up there to make you laugh, though you usually did. He was up there to make you think, to make you think about the nature of performance, about the interaction between audience and performer. He was a true performance genius - a meta-performer.

The first time my husband and I saw him was while watching Saturday Night Live in the seventies separately in our parent's homes. He came out dressed and acting his "Innocent European" persona and proceeded to put on a record of the Mighty Mouse theme. He stood there nervously, occasionally moving off-beat, until the part "Here I come to SAVE THE DAAAAAY", which he would then mouth with grand gestures before lapsing back into nervous near-catatonia. When the song was over, he said "Tank you berry much" in a high-pitched voice, and walked off. It was stupefyingly bizarre.

When my husband and I saw each other again at school on Monday, after macking for a bit, we asked each other WTF was up with that weird guy on SNL? We became fans and loved all his personas and we were very sad when he died so young. We did not, however, believe he faked his own death, though that would have been right up his alley.

In any case, I can certainly understand the people who didn't "get" Andy Kaufman. He would have appreciated you all the most.
2013-05-17 11:10:25 AM
1 votes:
It always astounded me that he would couple his level of trolling with the naivete and innocence he infused with it, but it was the only way he could get away with it.

Way ahead of his time.
2013-05-17 10:44:28 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: I really liked Man On the Moon. Borderline  JEEEENyus.


The movie was ok, it had a great ending.  Most movies don't have endings they just stop.
2013-05-17 09:52:20 AM
1 votes:
And then he does something like this, which surprises you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppttxQoc74Q
2013-05-17 09:16:21 AM
1 votes:
The thing that impressed me about Kaufman (and I suspect is one of the more influential traits of his performances, even if its not widely recognized) is just how long he was willing to push an agonizingly awkward moment/silence.
2013-05-17 08:00:40 AM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.

Me neither.  I've never understood the "OMGZ he was a JEEEENyus!!!" crowd.


His Mighty Mouse bit was so simple, so absurd, and so brilliant, but everyone's got their own taste.
2013-05-17 07:32:08 AM
1 votes:

Lady Indica: . He was the first farking troll.


Ambrose Bierce would like a word.
2013-05-17 06:26:32 AM
1 votes:

Peaceboy: I don't know how accurate the film was, but the scene at the end when he went to the Philippines for a miracle cure, is laying down looking around, and realizes it's all some bogus faith-healing scam... then starts laughing, and it morphs into his own dead body laying in his casket at his funeral... if he got scammed like that, like Springsteen said, "there's a joke here somewhere and it's on me."  That scene freaked me the hell out.


Christ, your description gave me the creeps. But yeah, that scene at the end, especially his laugh, freaked me out.  Jim Carrey was great in that film.
2013-05-17 05:49:35 AM
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AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. My wife hates rollercoasters. I think she's wrong, but that just, like, my opinion, man.


Oh totally. It's like, I get the Three Stooges are awesome, it's just not my thing. I can't watch it. The simulated violence, even though it's clearly simulated, makes me too uncomfortable. I CAN enjoy the exact same humor in cartoons like Looney Tunes, because there's no discomfort there. But I think Andy Kaufman was interestingly talented. The world is full of shiatty entertainers who at best get a flash in the pan moment...and no one remembers them later. Some things just take hold. Whether genius or lucky quirk, what does it matter ultimately? I think the impact it has matters more, and I don't think anyone can argue he did have an impact. We still know who he is, after all.
2013-05-17 05:40:39 AM
1 votes:
It always seemed to me that the only one laughing at a Kaufman show was Kaufman. Laughing at folks stupid enough to fall for it...again.
2013-05-17 02:37:59 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.


i don't quite see him as trolling. I do think he was quite possibly a genuine Asperger's Syndrome sufferer. His work was innovative and very clever. He constantly toyed with the relationship between the performer and the audience, undermining the trust and expectations that an audience has when seeing a performance.

Of course, for the most part the audience would become infuriated at having their trust betrayed, but he never seemed to notice their negative reaction at all, always assuming that they were just as taken with the cleverness of his meta-joke as he was himself.   His work was conceptual, postmodern. If you take it at face value you'll completely miss his intent. Bearing that in mind, he never did bother to give any sort of indication that he was doing that sort of thing, which is probably why so many people felt betrayed rather than amused.
2013-05-17 02:30:35 AM
1 votes:
Let's pray he doesn't come back. That farker was real annoying.
2013-05-17 12:08:42 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: I don't get why people troll on message boards.


Say what you want about it. At least it's an ethos!
2013-05-16 11:59:40 PM
1 votes:
Andy Kaufman is alive, he had a sex change is currently writing a blog under the name Victoria Jackson.
2013-05-16 10:22:43 PM
1 votes:
Its "years", not "year" submitter but whatever.
2013-05-16 09:44:26 PM
1 votes:
Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.
 
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