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(Huffington Post)   After 29 years, will Andy Kaufman please come home?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 98
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2013-05-16 08:41:24 PM
he'll still kick your ass Jerry

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2013-05-16 08:45:27 PM
Why on earth would I do that?  I like being unknown in New Zeal...... ugh never mind...
 
2013-05-16 08:47:39 PM
Five dollar. You pay five dollar now.
 
2013-05-16 09:09:56 PM
You been here 29 year. You go now.
 
2013-05-16 09:32:55 PM
Take the times Kaufman readThe Great Gatsbyaloud until the audience hissed and booed. "Would you rather listen to a tape?" he'd ask (they always said yes). But the tape simply turned out to be a recording of him readingThe Great Gatsby.


LMFAO

That's how you troll, kids.
 
2013-05-16 09:44:26 PM
Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.
 
2013-05-16 09:45:01 PM
I don't know how accurate the film was, but the scene at the end when he went to the Philippines for a miracle cure, is laying down looking around, and realizes it's all some bogus faith-healing scam... then starts laughing, and it morphs into his own dead body laying in his casket at his funeral... if he got scammed like that, like Springsteen said, "there's a joke here somewhere and it's on me."  That scene freaked me the hell out.
 
2013-05-16 10:03:17 PM
He was like a young Wayne Gretzky or Michael Jordan, so far ahead of the rest of the world in trolling that he was in a league all by himself. I remember being just as confused as everyone, bouncing between this guy is the greatest comedian ever and hoping someone with thorazine darts and a reinforced straightjacket was close by.
 
2013-05-16 10:12:25 PM
Didn't he die while piloting the missile that hit the Pentagon? I get so confused about these things anymore.
 
2013-05-16 10:22:43 PM
Its "years", not "year" submitter but whatever.
 
2013-05-16 10:30:51 PM

rotsky: Its "years", not "year" submitter but whatever.


I know and I am sorry. I seem to be forgetting a lot of words and letters when I type lately and it's starting to bother me

327 pound women wrestling

Tony Clifton on Dinah Shore

Elvis lives too!
 
2013-05-16 10:36:41 PM
Thank you very much Andy.
 
2013-05-16 11:41:21 PM

Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.


Me neither.  I've never understood the "OMGZ he was a JEEEENyus!!!" crowd.
 
2013-05-16 11:56:16 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.

Me neither.  I've never understood the "OMGZ he was a JEEEENyus!!!" crowd.


I found him hard to watch, like fingernails on a blackboard.
 
2013-05-16 11:59:40 PM
Andy Kaufman is alive, he had a sex change is currently writing a blog under the name Victoria Jackson.
 
2013-05-17 12:04:39 AM

NuttierThanEver: Andy Kaufman is alive, he had a sex change is currently writing a blog under the name Victoria Jackson.


So THAT'S what happened to Elvis.

/it all makes sense now
 
2013-05-17 12:08:42 AM

Mugato: I don't get why people troll on message boards.


Say what you want about it. At least it's an ethos!
 
2013-05-17 12:37:23 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.

Me neither.  I've never understood the "OMGZ he was a JEEEENyus!!!" crowd.


Count me in that one, too. Before my time, I guess.
 
2013-05-17 02:14:39 AM

Omahawg: he'll still kick your ass Jerry

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www.onlineworldofwrestling.com

Pencil-necked geeks!
 
2013-05-17 02:19:38 AM

NuttierThanEver: Andy Kaufman is alive, he had a sex change is currently writing a blog under the name Victoria Jackson.


Andy didn't hear about this one
 
2013-05-17 02:30:35 AM
Let's pray he doesn't come back. That farker was real annoying.
 
2013-05-17 02:37:59 AM

Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.


i don't quite see him as trolling. I do think he was quite possibly a genuine Asperger's Syndrome sufferer. His work was innovative and very clever. He constantly toyed with the relationship between the performer and the audience, undermining the trust and expectations that an audience has when seeing a performance.

Of course, for the most part the audience would become infuriated at having their trust betrayed, but he never seemed to notice their negative reaction at all, always assuming that they were just as taken with the cleverness of his meta-joke as he was himself.   His work was conceptual, postmodern. If you take it at face value you'll completely miss his intent. Bearing that in mind, he never did bother to give any sort of indication that he was doing that sort of thing, which is probably why so many people felt betrayed rather than amused.
 
2013-05-17 02:47:42 AM
He tried to do meta and stuff but sucked at it.  Maybe sucking at it was the purpose but at that point I don't give a crap.  Congrats, Kaufman, I think you suck and I don't give a crap.
 
2013-05-17 02:48:36 AM

Gordon Bennett: i don't quite see him as trolling. I do think he was quite possibly a genuine Asperger's Syndrome sufferer. His work was innovative and very clever. He constantly toyed with the relationship between the performer and the audience, undermining the trust and expectations that an audience has when seeing a performance.


No one likes to admit it, mainly because they hate her guts, but Yoko Ono is also a pioneer of interactive performance art. Whereas Andy manipulated the audience, Ono would allow the audience to manipulate her. In the end, though, the audience is always the one to come away from the performance either self-aware and enlightened or dumbfounded and confused.

It's a shame Andy's gone now. He probably would have loved Fark.
 
2013-05-17 02:49:31 AM

JerkyMeat: Let's pray he doesn't come back. That farker was real annoying.




Friends only get in the way.
 
2013-05-17 02:57:32 AM
The sad part is that his most ardent fans simply didn't get the joke. He's actually dead. The joke is that, even now, no one takes him seriously.
 
2013-05-17 02:59:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's a shame Andy's gone now. He probably would have loved Fark.


I'd like to think that he'd eschew it, for the exact same reason. We're amateur hour, on an open mic, killing time before the performers get here.
 
2013-05-17 03:01:11 AM
Today there is evidence to the contrary. A death certificate, for one.

Those are easy to fake. Just like birth certificates.
 
2013-05-17 03:02:14 AM

fusillade762: Today there is evidence to the contrary. A death certificate, for one.

Those are easy to fake. Just like birth certificates.


Who would fake a birth certificate? Why would anyone do something like that?
 
2013-05-17 03:13:14 AM

FormlessOne: The sad part is that his most ardent fans simply didn't get the joke. He's actually dead. The joke is that, even now, no one takes him seriously.




Yet, here you are, explaining the joke.

It's sad, really.
 
2013-05-17 03:18:36 AM

Gordon Bennett: Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.

i don't quite see him as trolling. I do think he was quite possibly a genuine Asperger's Syndrome sufferer. His work was innovative and very clever. He constantly toyed with the relationship between the performer and the audience, undermining the trust and expectations that an audience has when seeing a performance.

Of course, for the most part the audience would become infuriated at having their trust betrayed, but he never seemed to notice their negative reaction at all, always assuming that they were just as taken with the cleverness of his meta-joke as he was himself.   His work was conceptual, postmodern. If you take it at face value you'll completely miss his intent. Bearing that in mind, he never did bother to give any sort of indication that he was doing that sort of thing, which is probably why so many people felt betrayed rather than amused.




Recognition comes after you are dead. Making a buck off it is for whores.

/whores
 
2013-05-17 03:31:47 AM
I really liked Man On the Moon. Borderline  JEEEENyus.
 
2013-05-17 03:36:22 AM

farkingismybusiness: I really liked Man On the Moon. Borderline  JEEEENyus.




Meh. Mental masturbation.
 
2013-05-17 03:51:31 AM

StoPPeRmobile: farkingismybusiness: I really liked Man On the Moon. Borderline  JEEEENyus.

Meh. Mental masturbation.


So, you just pretend to be an asshole? Hismaterial doesn't exactly transfer to film.
/Ya wanna see Andy? Anybody gotta flashlight and a couple of shovels?
 
2013-05-17 03:59:05 AM

farkingismybusiness: StoPPeRmobile: farkingismybusiness: I really liked Man On the Moon. Borderline  JEEEENyus.

Meh. Mental masturbation.

So, you just pretend to be an asshole? Hismaterial doesn't exactly transfer to film.
/Ya wanna see Andy? Anybody gotta flashlight and a couple of shovels?




It's like talking about Seinfeld.

/what can I say
//it works
 
2013-05-17 04:03:23 AM

Peaceboy: I don't know how accurate the film was, but the scene at the end when he went to the Philippines for a miracle cure, is laying down looking around, and realizes it's all some bogus faith-healing scam... then starts laughing, and it morphs into his own dead body laying in his casket at his funeral... if he got scammed like that, like Springsteen said, "there's a joke here somewhere and it's on me."  That scene freaked me the hell out.


From Wikipedia, for what it's worth:

After audiences were shocked by his gaunt appearance during his performances in January 1984, Kaufman acknowledged having an unspecified illness, which he hoped to cure with "natural medicine" including a diet of all fruits and vegetables, among other measures. Kaufman received palliative radiotherapy, but by then the cancer had rapidly spread from his lungs to his brain. His last resort was "psychic surgery", a pseudo procedure performed in Baguio, Philippines, in March 1984.

/That should read "pseudoscientific procedure", by the way. And there's no source for that claim. Typical quality for a Wikipedia article, unfortunately
 
2013-05-17 05:05:50 AM
Dude was a genius, he got paid to amuse himself at the expense of everyone else around him.

/trolling irl takes a lot more balls too
 
2013-05-17 05:17:48 AM
Outside of the Mighty Mouse skit, and his character on Taxi, I never liked Kaufman. I also didn't get him. People comparing him to a troll...I get him now. I still don't like it on any level, but jesus that's an apt comparison. He was the first farking troll.
 
2013-05-17 05:19:01 AM

Lady Indica: Outside of the Mighty Mouse skit, and his character on Taxi, I never liked Kaufman. I also didn't get him. People comparing him to a troll...I get him now. I still don't like it on any level, but jesus that's an apt comparison. He was the first farking troll.


You didn't like the  Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion of the World act?

I thought that was his best stuff.
 
2013-05-17 05:24:42 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Lady Indica: Outside of the Mighty Mouse skit, and his character on Taxi, I never liked Kaufman. I also didn't get him. People comparing him to a troll...I get him now. I still don't like it on any level, but jesus that's an apt comparison. He was the first farking troll.

You didn't like the  Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion of the World act?

I thought that was his best stuff.


I never really saw the wrestling stuff until Man on the Moon, and by that time I didn't like his other stuff I was aware of, so that probably biased me against it. My brothers watched WWF during the Hulk Hogan years, so I was a fan of 80s wrestling as a result. I can totally see Kaufman's work there in that type of entertainment world being incredible. What I don't like about his act is the discomfort factor, and annoyance factor. Same reason I dislike Jerry Lewis's comedies.
 
2013-05-17 05:30:40 AM

Lady Indica: AverageAmericanGuy: Lady Indica: Outside of the Mighty Mouse skit, and his character on Taxi, I never liked Kaufman. I also didn't get him. People comparing him to a troll...I get him now. I still don't like it on any level, but jesus that's an apt comparison. He was the first farking troll.

You didn't like the  Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion of the World act?

I thought that was his best stuff.

I never really saw the wrestling stuff until Man on the Moon, and by that time I didn't like his other stuff I was aware of, so that probably biased me against it. My brothers watched WWF during the Hulk Hogan years, so I was a fan of 80s wrestling as a result. I can totally see Kaufman's work there in that type of entertainment world being incredible. What I don't like about his act is the discomfort factor, and annoyance factor. Same reason I dislike Jerry Lewis's comedies.


I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. My wife hates rollercoasters. I think she's wrong, but that just, like, my opinion, man.
 
2013-05-17 05:40:39 AM
It always seemed to me that the only one laughing at a Kaufman show was Kaufman. Laughing at folks stupid enough to fall for it...again.
 
2013-05-17 05:49:35 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not going to tell you you're wrong. My wife hates rollercoasters. I think she's wrong, but that just, like, my opinion, man.


Oh totally. It's like, I get the Three Stooges are awesome, it's just not my thing. I can't watch it. The simulated violence, even though it's clearly simulated, makes me too uncomfortable. I CAN enjoy the exact same humor in cartoons like Looney Tunes, because there's no discomfort there. But I think Andy Kaufman was interestingly talented. The world is full of shiatty entertainers who at best get a flash in the pan moment...and no one remembers them later. Some things just take hold. Whether genius or lucky quirk, what does it matter ultimately? I think the impact it has matters more, and I don't think anyone can argue he did have an impact. We still know who he is, after all.
 
2013-05-17 06:13:24 AM
Taxi was awesome, 'nuff said.
 
2013-05-17 06:26:32 AM

Peaceboy: I don't know how accurate the film was, but the scene at the end when he went to the Philippines for a miracle cure, is laying down looking around, and realizes it's all some bogus faith-healing scam... then starts laughing, and it morphs into his own dead body laying in his casket at his funeral... if he got scammed like that, like Springsteen said, "there's a joke here somewhere and it's on me."  That scene freaked me the hell out.


Christ, your description gave me the creeps. But yeah, that scene at the end, especially his laugh, freaked me out.  Jim Carrey was great in that film.
 
2013-05-17 07:21:26 AM
It's time to retire the Michele Bachmann costume, Andy.
 
2013-05-17 07:21:59 AM

Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.


He could be mildly funny sometimes but usually just liked to make his audience uncomfortable which is funny to hipsters but is not really funny.
 
2013-05-17 07:27:53 AM

steamingpile: Mugato: Never got Andy Kaufman. Maybe the same reason I don't get why people troll on message boards.

He could be mildly funny sometimes but usually just liked to make his audience uncomfortable which is funny to hipsters but is not really funny.


Laughter is a response that the body makes when it's presented with incongruity. When that tension is relieved - like through a punch line - we laugh. Kaufman just took that and ran with it to the extreme.
 
2013-05-17 07:28:28 AM
The reactions in this thread, the fact that there is a website dedicated to the fact that he faked his death only goes to show how much of a genius he was.
 
2013-05-17 07:32:08 AM

Lady Indica: . He was the first farking troll.


Ambrose Bierce would like a word.
 
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