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(Opposing Views)   Protip: If you're going to lock someone up while you burglarize their home, don't lock them up in their gun closet   (opposingviews.com) divider line 24
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2013-05-16 05:24:55 PM  
4 votes:
I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?
2013-05-16 09:16:10 PM  
3 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: Luse: Perhaps you missed the part where the robber shot at him, for daring to be inside his own home. I didn't know assault with a deadly weapon and attempted murder count as property crimes.

Nope. Read the rest of the thread.

But this "no duty to retreat" has been used to kill people over property


It's really simple. Don't break into someone's house and you won't get shot.
2013-05-16 05:57:55 PM  
3 votes:
the person being attacked does not have a "duty to retreat."

This should be an international standard.
2013-05-16 09:21:12 PM  
2 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: Luse: Perhaps you missed the part where the robber shot at him, for daring to be inside his own home. I didn't know assault with a deadly weapon and attempted murder count as property crimes.

Nope. Read the rest of the thread.

But this "no duty to retreat" has been used to kill people over property


The only one who should have any "duty to retreat" is the perpetrator.
I have nice things. I work hard for them. I have cars, a motorcycle, a nice entertainment system, a good wife, 2 awesome ferrets, and an annoying guinea pig.
If you see it fit to trespass on my property, which btw, is against the law, I have 0 faith in your ability or willingness to follow any other laws. I certainly won't place me or mine in any further danger by asking you whether you have hostile intent or if perhaps you are one of those gentle Robin Hood types. I will respond with as much force as necessary until such time as you see a duty to retreat, whether on your feet or in a body bag I'll leave up to you.
I will defend all who enter my home with my permission against all who enter my home without. (even the annoying guinea pig)
If you have a problem with any of this, I suggest you do not attempt to enter my home without invitation. If THAT is too difficult, please remove yourself from the gene pool.
2013-05-16 05:51:19 PM  
2 votes:
Looks like yesterday's thieving imbecile who drove his victim's stolen car to her place of employment has just been bested.
2013-05-16 10:25:02 PM  
1 votes:
He should have killed the asshole.  Now he will sue him for injuries when he gets out of prison.
2013-05-16 09:54:13 PM  
1 votes:

DrewCurtisJr: Frank N Stein: This is why these items are always within reach of me. Gotta be prepared for anything.

I get the playboy and the n64 cartridge, but what's up with the claymore?


Besides confusing the ammo can with a claymore... you don't know a Super Nintendo cartridge when you see one?!
2013-05-16 08:52:40 PM  
1 votes:
well in about two weeks he'll be arrested on grounds of hate crime and attempted murder.
2013-05-16 08:44:17 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Everfearful: I respect differing viewpoints.

Not a viewpoint.

If the crooks just sat him down and held him at gunpoint it's a firearm fiesta for them and perhaps a severe beating or worse for him.

Or is he going to outrun a bullet?


How sad you must be that this homeowner was in the end able to defend himself and wasn't butchered in his own home for your anti-gun talking points.
2013-05-16 08:34:21 PM  
1 votes:

Frank N Stein: duenor: Plan, experiment, plan. Plan your home layout. Install alarms. Plan even for after the shooting.
I do the same for car breakdowns, fires, earthquakes, medical emergencies, witnessing a crime.

This is why these items are always within reach of me. Gotta be prepared for anything.

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so can you teach me some rex kwon do? is the first lesson still free?
2013-05-16 08:09:10 PM  
1 votes:
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom


A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...

Typical liberal finding it appropriate to make gay jokes when it's targeting someone they don't like. I'm betting your're a master with the "N" word towards them brown people you don't like.
2013-05-16 07:52:01 PM  
1 votes:

squibbits: LOL-ing at all the anti-gun ninnies that will try to poop on this most awesome story... but I have to admit that he should have had one closer at hand and injuring only one of them non-fatally was not the ideal outcome. There is a big difference between having guns and being prepared to use them in a surprise situation.


Plan, experiment, plan. Plan your home layout. Install alarms. Plan even for after the shooting.
I do the same for car breakdowns, fires, earthquakes, medical emergencies, witnessing a crime.

It's been helpful many times.

As for not killing the guy, I'm very much ok with that. 1. I don't want to kill anybody unless I have to. I would've shot to stop the threat, but if he lived I would not be sorry. 2. I need someone to tell the cops where the other two are.
2013-05-16 07:06:32 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Everfearful: I respect differing viewpoints.

Not a viewpoint.

If the crooks just sat him down and held him at gunpoint it's a firearm fiesta for them and perhaps a severe beating or worse for him.

Or is he going to outrun a bullet?


You seem disappointed that your scenario wasn't the actual outcome.
2013-05-16 06:56:50 PM  
1 votes:
accurateshooter.net
For ALL your varmint problems!
2013-05-16 06:54:43 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: The .357 or the .45?


I have a 9mm now, so neither of those. I mean, I farking love my other pistols, but after actually firing my P226 inside a building the other day I'm no longer convinced my 1911 would just hurt for a while. I have a feeling I'd end up with instant, permanent hearing loss. GP100? You could pay me to shoot it indoors, but you would have to pay me.
2013-05-16 06:45:34 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...


That "nut" is still alive and took Entitlers of the street. You would be hog tied, raped and missing your xbox from your moms basement.
2013-05-16 06:39:47 PM  
1 votes:
Heh.

Usually, 'protips' on Fark mostly aren't. This one... is.
2013-05-16 06:30:34 PM  
1 votes:
I bet that he even had access to his ear protection.

That's handy.
2013-05-16 06:24:58 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And without the criminals' error those guns would have done our well-armed citizen no good whatsoever.


Which is why keeping your guns locked up is a terrible idea! Thanks for the reminder.
2013-05-16 06:24:18 PM  
1 votes:
Another brain box gets busted. Where is "America's Dumbest Criminals" when you need it?
2013-05-16 06:18:45 PM  
1 votes:
And without the criminals' error those guns would have done our well-armed citizen no good whatsoever.
2013-05-16 06:03:45 PM  
1 votes:
Penetration or knockdown power? Burt goes for the elephant gun.
www.imfdb.org
2013-05-16 05:45:05 PM  
1 votes:

mr_a: Marcus Aurelius: I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?

It would depend.

If the walls needed repaintig soon anyway, I'd go with the Remington. But if I just wanted to change out the carpet, than the .357. Even if the .45 is more powerful, .357 just sounds cooler.


My .357 firing 158 grains has more than twice the power of a .45 ball.  But I can suppress the .45, and that would be terrifying to any intruder.  PHHHUMMMP.  PHHHHUMMMMP. klink klink.  The .357 on the other hand goes through walls and is deafening, plus it has 7 shots, so if they're counting, they're in trouble.

Shotguns are too big for inside work, unless they're shortened.  Legally, of course.
2013-05-16 05:22:39 PM  
1 votes:
They believed they locked him up in a closet, but the closet was actually home to the man's gun collection

Now THAT's what I call a gun collection.
 
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