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2013-05-16 05:05:32 PM  
They ought to let him out of jail for a couple hours just so he can go talk to his buddies.
 
2013-05-16 05:22:39 PM  
They believed they locked him up in a closet, but the closet was actually home to the man's gun collection

Now THAT's what I call a gun collection.
 
2013-05-16 05:24:55 PM  
I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?
 
2013-05-16 05:35:17 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?


It would depend.

If the walls needed repaintig soon anyway, I'd go with the Remington. But if I just wanted to change out the carpet, than the .357. Even if the .45 is more powerful, .357 just sounds cooler.
 
2013-05-16 05:45:05 PM  

mr_a: Marcus Aurelius: I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?

It would depend.

If the walls needed repaintig soon anyway, I'd go with the Remington. But if I just wanted to change out the carpet, than the .357. Even if the .45 is more powerful, .357 just sounds cooler.


My .357 firing 158 grains has more than twice the power of a .45 ball.  But I can suppress the .45, and that would be terrifying to any intruder.  PHHHUMMMP.  PHHHHUMMMMP. klink klink.  The .357 on the other hand goes through walls and is deafening, plus it has 7 shots, so if they're counting, they're in trouble.

Shotguns are too big for inside work, unless they're shortened.  Legally, of course.
 
2013-05-16 05:51:19 PM  
Looks like yesterday's thieving imbecile who drove his victim's stolen car to her place of employment has just been bested.
 
2013-05-16 05:56:49 PM  
A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...
 
2013-05-16 05:57:55 PM  
the person being attacked does not have a "duty to retreat."

This should be an international standard.
 
2013-05-16 06:03:45 PM  
Penetration or knockdown power? Burt goes for the elephant gun.
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wee
2013-05-16 06:07:07 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: My .357 firing 158 grains has more than twice the power of a .45 ball. But I can suppress the .45, and that would be terrifying to any intruder. PHHHUMMMP. PHHHHUMMMMP. klink klink. The .357 on the other hand goes through walls and is deafening, plus it has 7 shots, so if they're counting, they're in trouble.


Trouble with suppressing .45 ACP is that even though the round never breaks the sound barrier, it's a large enough bore than a small column of gas will remain unperturbed by the baffles and still make a supersonic noise. Unless you have a very long supressor or use media, I guess. But that takes serious planning, and will make a mess of your carpets.

My Gemtech Blackside doesn't have an L.I.D. so it has a habit of stovepiping on tilt-barrel semis, like the 1911 and P220, unless you really strongarm it. So even though it's quiet-ish, it's not as reliable or accurate as with the suppressor off.  Hard to argure with ten rounds of .45, though.

I think I'd grab the P226 with three 20-round mags full of HST and call it good.  Though I recently picked up a 2340 in .357 SIG and that is a smoking round. It's also a pistol I wouldn't mind being seized as evidence since it only cost a couple hundred bucks.
 
wee
2013-05-16 06:12:36 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Penetration or knockdown power? Burt goes for the elephant gun.


Naw, a smart fella would go for the Red Ryder BB gun in the lower middle and the M8 flare pistol in the upper left: "Plink, clack-clack. Plink, clack-clack.  Plink, clack-clack.  WHOOSH!"
 
2013-05-16 06:18:45 PM  
And without the criminals' error those guns would have done our well-armed citizen no good whatsoever.
 
2013-05-16 06:24:18 PM  
Another brain box gets busted. Where is "America's Dumbest Criminals" when you need it?
 
2013-05-16 06:24:24 PM  
'Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.'.
 
2013-05-16 06:24:35 PM  
My take away is they thought a gun safe was a closet.  Hey, lock him up in that heavy steal closet with combination dial.
 
2013-05-16 06:24:58 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And without the criminals' error those guns would have done our well-armed citizen no good whatsoever.


Which is why keeping your guns locked up is a terrible idea! Thanks for the reminder.
 
2013-05-16 06:26:55 PM  
And if you ever wondered what the sound of a million gun owners fapping sounded like...
 
2013-05-16 06:27:12 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?


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Broke into the wrong God damn rec room, didn't ya you bastard!
 
2013-05-16 06:27:52 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?


My step father was a gun dealer/smith and when a neighbor broke in I chose a Spa-12.
 
2013-05-16 06:28:57 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...


I know which loser YOU voted for. The one who is currently crashing our economy.
 
2013-05-16 06:30:01 PM  
Better than your finger ... pew, pew, pew....
 
2013-05-16 06:30:34 PM  
I bet that he even had access to his ear protection.

That's handy.
 
2013-05-16 06:31:17 PM  

"Neighbors say burglaries have been on the rise in recent months, the latest being a robbery where thieves kicked down a door."


They have a problem, but I have the solution:


a.abcnews.com

Just don't carry Skittles with you and you'll be fine.

 
2013-05-16 06:31:25 PM  
... in before the crybabies who say the homeowner shouldn't be playing god...

The homeowner didn't create the situation, he reacted.

If you intentionally trigger someone's instinctual fight-or-flight response you gotta take the consequences of the fight.

The burglar assumed the risk.  He should be forced to pay to fix whatever damage happened to the house, including paying for the cleanup of his own blood stains.
 
2013-05-16 06:35:23 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: And without the criminals' error those guns would have done our well-armed citizen no good whatsoever.



Magazine limits: "Sure, the odds are statistically tiny that someone can successfully rush a shooter during a mag change, but it happened once so it's worth any cost!"

Guns for home defense: "The odds are slim that you'll be able to successfully defend yourself, so we should just ignore any incidents where that actually happens."

I respect differing viewpoints.  Try to have some consistency of logic, though.
 
2013-05-16 06:38:47 PM  

wee: Marcus Aurelius: My .357 firing 158 grains has more than twice the power of a .45 ball. But I can suppress the .45, and that would be terrifying to any intruder. PHHHUMMMP. PHHHHUMMMMP. klink klink. The .357 on the other hand goes through walls and is deafening, plus it has 7 shots, so if they're counting, they're in trouble.

Trouble with suppressing .45 ACP is that even though the round never breaks the sound barrier, it's a large enough bore than a small column of gas will remain unperturbed by the baffles and still make a supersonic noise. Unless you have a very long supressor or use media, I guess. But that takes serious planning, and will make a mess of your carpets.

My Gemtech Blackside doesn't have an L.I.D. so it has a habit of stovepiping on tilt-barrel semis, like the 1911 and P220, unless you really strongarm it. So even though it's quiet-ish, it's not as reliable or accurate as with the suppressor off.  Hard to argure with ten rounds of .45, though.

I think I'd grab the P226 with three 20-round mags full of HST and call it good.  Though I recently picked up a 2340 in .357 SIG and that is a smoking round. It's also a pistol I wouldn't mind being seized as evidence since it only cost a couple hundred bucks.


I agree the P226 is liable to get "lost" in evidence.
 
2013-05-16 06:39:47 PM  
Heh.

Usually, 'protips' on Fark mostly aren't. This one... is.
 
2013-05-16 06:41:00 PM  
I might opt for the flamethrower...


www.ultimatesportsmen.com
 
2013-05-16 06:41:34 PM  

Apos: Looks like yesterday's thieving imbecile who drove his victim's stolen car to her place of employment has just been bested.


Match.com is in their future, however short they may be alive together
 
2013-05-16 06:45:34 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...


That "nut" is still alive and took Entitlers of the street. You would be hog tied, raped and missing your xbox from your moms basement.
 
2013-05-16 06:46:29 PM  

wee: Trouble with suppressing .45 ACP is that even though the round never breaks the sound barrier, it's a large enough bore than a small column of gas will remain unperturbed by the baffles and still make a supersonic noise. Unless you have a very long supressor or use media, I guess. But that takes serious planning, and will make a mess of your carpets.


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2013-05-16 06:53:51 PM  
This is why I keep a home defense M1 Garand near my bed.
 
2013-05-16 06:54:43 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The .357 or the .45?


I have a 9mm now, so neither of those. I mean, I farking love my other pistols, but after actually firing my P226 inside a building the other day I'm no longer convinced my 1911 would just hurt for a while. I have a feeling I'd end up with instant, permanent hearing loss. GP100? You could pay me to shoot it indoors, but you would have to pay me.
 
2013-05-16 06:56:50 PM  
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For ALL your varmint problems!
 
2013-05-16 07:04:54 PM  

Everfearful: I respect differing viewpoints.


Not a viewpoint.

If the crooks just sat him down and held him at gunpoint it's a firearm fiesta for them and perhaps a severe beating or worse for him.

Or is he going to outrun a bullet?
 
2013-05-16 07:06:32 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Everfearful: I respect differing viewpoints.

Not a viewpoint.

If the crooks just sat him down and held him at gunpoint it's a firearm fiesta for them and perhaps a severe beating or worse for him.

Or is he going to outrun a bullet?


You seem disappointed that your scenario wasn't the actual outcome.
 
2013-05-16 07:09:02 PM  

bmihura: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...

I know which loser YOU voted for. The one who is currently crashing our economy.


What are you talking about? The economy is doing great! Stock markets are at an all-time high, banks and corporations are flush with cash. Things couldn't get much better.
 
wee
2013-05-16 07:14:40 PM  
ElLoco:
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Yeah, that would do it.

Which reminds me that I need to get the barrel on my .45 Camp Carbine threaded...
 
2013-05-16 07:27:49 PM  

Frank N Stein: You seem disappointed


Just pointing out it doesn't matter what's in your closet without access. The crooks gave him access.
 
2013-05-16 07:43:55 PM  
LOL-ing at all the anti-gun ninnies that will try to poop on this most awesome story... but I have to admit that he should have had one closer at hand and injuring only one of them non-fatally was not the ideal outcome. There is a big difference between having guns and being prepared to use them in a surprise situation.
 
2013-05-16 07:48:55 PM  
Came for the Tremors references.
 
2013-05-16 07:52:01 PM  

squibbits: LOL-ing at all the anti-gun ninnies that will try to poop on this most awesome story... but I have to admit that he should have had one closer at hand and injuring only one of them non-fatally was not the ideal outcome. There is a big difference between having guns and being prepared to use them in a surprise situation.


Plan, experiment, plan. Plan your home layout. Install alarms. Plan even for after the shooting.
I do the same for car breakdowns, fires, earthquakes, medical emergencies, witnessing a crime.

It's been helpful many times.

As for not killing the guy, I'm very much ok with that. 1. I don't want to kill anybody unless I have to. I would've shot to stop the threat, but if he lived I would not be sorry. 2. I need someone to tell the cops where the other two are.
 
2013-05-16 07:53:29 PM  

bmihura: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: A gun nut that's in the closet? Why am I not surprised...

I know which loser YOU voted for. The one who is currently crashing our economy.


You mean the economy Bush wrecked?

I'd go for my .45. I live in an apartment right now and that won't overpenetrate as much as the .40 or the 9's. I could also go for the .32, as that is about guaranteed not to make it into the neighbors apartment if I somehow manage to miss, but if someone actually broke in, I'd want them dead, not wounded.

/ Gun totin' Lib
 
2013-05-16 07:55:31 PM  

Tsar_Bomba1: I might opt for the flamethrower...


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I dunno, not likely to get the flamethrower back, looks like he could spare a BAR though!
 
2013-05-16 07:57:12 PM  

LeroyBourne: My take away is they thought a gun safe was a closet.  Hey, lock him up in that heavy steal closet with combination dial.


Maybe.  My guns are just in an ordinary closet.  But if it was a safe then I believe all safes these days are required to have an inside emergency out type thing to prevent getting locked inside.  Which makes the robbers triple stupid.
 
2013-05-16 07:58:59 PM  

squibbits: LOL-ing at all the anti-gun ninnies that will try to poop on this most awesome story... but I have to admit that he should have had one closer at hand and injuring only one of them non-fatally was not the ideal outcome. There is a big difference between having guns and being prepared to use them in a surprise situation.


Nice try.
 
2013-05-16 08:01:09 PM  

doglover: the person being attacked does not have a "duty to retreat."

This should be an international standard.


Don't be silly, this is america: you're supposed to call the cops for all your legal problems.

Guns are icky and dangerous and fire on their own and you'll die if you look at one.
 
2013-05-16 08:03:06 PM  

fusillade762: Marcus Aurelius: I can picture this guy in his closet.  You'd be paralyzed with indecision for at least a full minute.  The .357 or the .45?  The Remington pump or the double crow bar?

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Broke into the wrong God damn rec room, didn't ya you bastard!


I think I love you.

Glendale: Came for the Tremors references.


The fact that your ID is my nickname at work creeps me out. The fact that we're both here for the same thing is even weirder.

one more coincidence and I'm naming you my doppleganger.
 
2013-05-16 08:03:44 PM  
There are alternatives though...

i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-05-16 08:04:33 PM  
Another responsible gun owner.
 
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