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(Fresno Bee)   Internet sensation Kai the hatchet hitchhiker is wanted for going SMASH SMASH SMASH HOMICIDE   (fresnobee.com) divider line 65
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2013-05-16 05:34:16 PM  
How many heroes will end up GOING DOWN this week?
 
2013-05-16 05:45:11 PM  
OK, that story is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short on details. Sorry to link to the Daily Fail but they have a lot details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325715/Kai-hero-hatchet-wie ld ing-homeless-hitchhiking-Internet-celebrity-wanted-MURDER-lawyer-73-de ad-day-drifter-claimed-Facebook-hed-sexually-assaulted.html

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.
 
2013-05-16 05:54:18 PM  
Another hero against rape culture persecuted. figures.
 
2013-05-16 05:55:15 PM  
Crazy homeless people are sometimes dangerous, you say?

Who knew?
 
2013-05-16 05:56:57 PM  
The dude is a whackjob.  Color me "Unsurprised".
 
2013-05-16 05:57:48 PM  
"Smash Homicide It's All In Your Mind"

i193.photobucket.com
 
2013-05-16 05:58:19 PM  

Walker: OK, that story is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short on details. Sorry to link to the Daily Fail but they have a lot details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325715/Kai-hero-hatchet-wie ld ing-homeless-hitchhiking-Internet-celebrity-wanted-MURDER-lawyer-73-de ad-day-drifter-claimed-Facebook-hed-sexually-assaulted.html

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.


I honestly think, at that point, it should either be a justifiable homicide, OR jury nulification should come into play.

/on the same venue, I have no problem with a woman cutting the throat of her rapist, either.
 
2013-05-16 05:58:27 PM  

Walker: OK, that story is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short on details. Sorry to link to the Daily Fail but they have a lot details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325715/Kai-hero-hatchet-wie ld ing-homeless-hitchhiking-Internet-celebrity-wanted-MURDER-lawyer-73-de ad-day-drifter-claimed-Facebook-hed-sexually-assaulted.html

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.


Yeah I remember when they did that scenario on the infamous lost episode of Nickelodeon's 'What Would You Do?', I voted to kill the guy with a hatchet.
 
2013-05-16 06:01:09 PM  
Hey, if you woke up in the woods with your pants around your ankles and had Vaseline all over your balloon knot, would you tell anybody?

No?

Wanna go camping?
 
2013-05-16 06:01:42 PM  
First the golden voice homeless man turns out to have a serious drinking problem, then the Cleveland sex slave big mac hero is an ex-con, and now this. I don't believe in nothing no more man.
 
2013-05-16 06:02:50 PM  

hardinparamedic: Walker: OK, that story is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short on details. Sorry to link to the Daily Fail but they have a lot details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325715/Kai-hero-hatchet-wie ld ing-homeless-hitchhiking-Internet-celebrity-wanted-MURDER-lawyer-73-de ad-day-drifter-claimed-Facebook-hed-sexually-assaulted.html

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.

I honestly think, at that point, it should either be a justifiable homicide, OR jury nulification should come into play.

/on the same venue, I have no problem with a woman cutting the throat of her rapist, either.


If it's true, it would certainly be a mitigating factor. That's why we have degrees of murder. But if the evidence showed that his story was factual, I wouldn't convict him or anyone under such circumstances.
 
2013-05-16 06:03:56 PM  
Let him go, man. It sounds like he hitched a ride from some creepy guy that tried to fark him so he defended himself.
 
2013-05-16 06:04:22 PM  
quote from his facebook page:

what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?

/Justifiable homicide for whacking some old perv multiple times int he head as, 'YOU DID WHAT TO ME!!!!"
//YaDaYaDa legal system blablabla answer to charges of justifiable homicide.
///Well at least he is white, but that whole 'being a male' is going to hurt him in court if he gets a rightwing Judge who thinks that men can never be raped since they don't have a icky vagina.
////FBI says men can be raped so hes got that going for him
 
2013-05-16 06:06:42 PM  
We're all missing the big picture here: he killed a lawyer. No hero tag?
 
2013-05-16 06:13:07 PM  
Facebook exchange...
Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?
Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?
Kai: i like your idea terry
Terry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.
 
2013-05-16 06:15:01 PM  
If I was drugged and raped I would do exactly as he did.  The only crime was committed by the lawyer and better yet, the world is a better place because of what hatchet did.
 
2013-05-16 06:15:27 PM  

sheep snorter: quote from his facebook page:

what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?


I'd probably SUH-MASH the mirror.
 
2013-05-16 06:16:26 PM  
I feel bad for him if he was sexually assaulted and then went on a murder rampage. But on the other hand I wish he would know better than to be a nomad relying on trusting people. Hopefully the truth comes out and he gets a fair trial.

Doubt it though. I just watched "The Central Park Five" so I'm even more suspicious of the criminal justice system.
 
2013-05-16 06:17:23 PM  

Burning_Monk: Facebook exchange...
Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?
Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?
Kai: i like your idea terry
Terry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.


I believe that exchange happened after the fact. The most is shows is lack of remorse.
 
2013-05-16 06:19:33 PM  

Walker: Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.


You were there?

Sounds more likely that he killed the guy and then made up a story.
 
2013-05-16 06:21:22 PM  
Someone should be a song parody for Kai based on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"
 
2013-05-16 06:21:35 PM  

titwrench: Burning_Monk: Facebook exchange...
Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?
Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?
Kai: i like your idea terry
Terry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.

I believe that exchange happened after the fact. The most is shows is lack of remorse.


Yep, article says they met Saturday, body found Monday, facebook post on Tuesday. Hit the road Wednesday, got sick on Thursday, worse on Friday, died on Saturday, buried on Sunday. This is the end of Caleb "Kai" McGrundy.
 
2013-05-16 06:22:38 PM  

Walker: OK, that story is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short on details. Sorry to link to the Daily Fail but they have a lot details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325715/Kai-hero-hatchet-wie ld ing-homeless-hitchhiking-Internet-celebrity-wanted-MURDER-lawyer-73-de ad-day-drifter-claimed-Facebook-hed-sexually-assaulted.html

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.


Homeless guy kills trick, makes up story to cover his ass. News at 11.
 
2013-05-16 06:22:58 PM  
Dude!  You can't save someone's life by killing the person attacking them!  Only cops can do that.  It's harsh bro, but that's the way it is.

Dude, if you were a cop, you could've smashed that kook's head in all day, and all you'd get is a paid vacation.  But checkit, yer not a cop, so yer going to the pokey, bra!
 
2013-05-16 06:26:17 PM  
Actually, it's "SMASH-SMASH-SA-MAAAASH!"

/Bad grammar nazi?
 
2013-05-16 06:28:38 PM  
Just a case of he said, he dead.  If you think you've been drugged, go to the police and the hospital and get tested for signs of having been drugged.  Homicide is optional, but for god's sake, get your blood tested for signs of drugging.  With a good lawyer, a bit of fame, and drugs someone else put in your body you have a pretty good chance of walking.  Just say the combination of the drugs and the rape made you do it.  No jury is going to convict you if you were under the influence of drugs when you've been drugged and raped.

Now it's just his word against the police report.
 
2013-05-16 06:29:37 PM  

The Southern Dandy: Dude!  You can't save someone's life by killing the person attacking them!  Only cops can do that.  It's harsh bro, but that's the way it is.


Wrong.
 
2013-05-16 06:30:33 PM  
Sounds like the lawyer was axing for it.  I'm sure he thought he was being cleaver, but if he did what dude said he did, he hatchet coming.
 
2013-05-16 06:34:37 PM  

titwrench: Burning_Monk: Facebook exchange...
Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?
Terry: Find them as fast as I could and SUH-MASH the shiat out of them with a hatchet or whatever else I could find!! Dude... Wtf? U serious?
Kai: i like your idea terry
Terry: fark man.. U prolly should've went to the cops! I didn't mean that literally man.. Holy shiat

/so there was some premeditation, but I still don't know if that invalidates his defense. Personally, I believe that I would vote him innocent if I was in the jury. That's some farked up shiat.

I believe that exchange happened after the fact. The most is shows is lack of remorse.


im looking at the facebook right now.  "i like your idea terry" was posted Tuesday. 4 hours ago someone posted a link to the news article about murder and "fark man" was posted directly after that.
 
2013-05-16 06:37:59 PM  
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RIP Hatchetface.
 
2013-05-16 06:41:48 PM  

FormlessOne: Walker: OK, that story is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too short on details. Sorry to link to the Daily Fail but they have a lot details:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325715/Kai-hero-hatchet-wie ld ing-homeless-hitchhiking-Internet-celebrity-wanted-MURDER-lawyer-73-de ad-day-drifter-claimed-Facebook-hed-sexually-assaulted.html

Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.

Homeless guy kills trick, makes up story to cover his ass. News at 11.


Tell us more of your tricks of the trade. Is it true you guys will trade meth for a "San Francisco Bird Feeder"? Do you prefer to meet your tricks in airport bathrooms or municipal parks to avoid situations like this? It's a shame Kai hadn't met an expert like you beforehand, maybe you could have steered him to the right street corner. Thank you for not being afraid to speak up and give us your veteran analysis of the situation. Most of us lack the history of funneling old dude's hogs for a swig of Thuderbird, but thank goodness you stepped up and filled in the void.
 
2013-05-16 06:42:05 PM  
He's still a hero to me. He killed a lawyer.
 
2013-05-16 06:44:12 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
I always wondered what happened to that kid. Now I know. Sad.
 
2013-05-16 06:52:06 PM  
img.photobucket.com

I'd hang my head in shame, but with this hairdo what's the point?
 
2013-05-16 06:52:18 PM  

farkingismybusiness: I always wondered what happened to that kid. Now I know. Sad.


Nicely played. I made a reference to that book last week, I got the quizzical dog face response for my boyfriend.
 
2013-05-16 06:52:39 PM  
The facial must've happened right before he woke up from his stupor.  That stuff dries up pretty fast...

/so, I've heard, of course...
 
2013-05-16 06:52:51 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

He's really gone down hill from his days on TRL!
 
2013-05-16 06:56:18 PM  
People don't like lawyers, well good thing I killed a lawyer.
 
2013-05-16 06:57:44 PM  
Take him to the bioscholars and have him decarbonized. He will make an amusing assassin.
 
2013-05-16 07:06:25 PM  
Kai: what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?

What would you do?
What WOULD you do?
i.imgur.com

Me? I'd get outta there.
 
2013-05-16 07:07:13 PM  
I submitted this with a worse headline and a maybe better article.  http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2013/05/post_10.html#incart_m-rpt-1
 
2013-05-16 07:12:20 PM  
because homeless skater boys never go gay for pay.
 
2013-05-16 07:33:24 PM  
breaking: taken into custody in philadelphia (my hometown)
 
2013-05-16 07:52:19 PM  
Clang clang
 
2013-05-16 07:58:24 PM  
www.visit4ads.com
but he had Bud Light
 
2013-05-16 08:16:27 PM  
I'm going out on a limb and say something in Kai's past (molestation) triggered him to do this. IIRC, during an earlier interview, Kai mentioned something not too good happening in his past when he was younger.

/ If CNN and FOX can speculate, then so can I.
 
2013-05-16 08:55:57 PM  

Archimedes' Principal: I'm going out on a limb and say something in Kai's past (molestation) triggered him to do this. IIRC, during an earlier interview, Kai mentioned something not too good happening in his past when he was younger.

/ If CNN and FOX can speculate, then so can I.


Second post in this thread links to an article that supports that.
 
2013-05-16 09:00:34 PM  
From hero to homicide...sounds like

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2013-05-16 09:29:00 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Walker: Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.

You were there?

Sounds more likely that he killed the guy and then made up a story.


I'm gonna say old lawyer dude decided not to pay and crazy dude then got all smashy like.

/sorry for the technical jargon.
 
2013-05-16 09:43:02 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Walker: Some old guy drugged and raped him. Kai woke up with man juice pouring out his mouth and attacked the guy. In the same situation you might go a little crazy too.

You were there?

Sounds more likely that he killed the guy and then made up a story.


Yeah, I'm 50/50 on this one...way too early to make a call.  Any drugs in his system? any in the apartment? etc, etc.
 
2013-05-16 09:46:01 PM  

Bermuda59: Someone should be a song parody for Kai based on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer"


Kairful with That Axe, Eugene?
 
2013-05-16 09:46:31 PM  

MagSeven: sheep snorter: quote from his facebook page:

what would you do if you woke up with a groggy head, metallic taste in your mouth, in a strangers house... walked to the mirror and seen come dripping from the side of your face from your mouth, and started wretching, realizing that someone had drugged, raped, and blown their farkin load in you? what would you do?

I'd probably SUH-MASH the mirror.



www.american-buddha.com
 
2013-05-16 10:04:38 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: First the golden voice homeless man turns out to have a serious drinking problem, then the Cleveland sex slave big mac hero is an ex-con, and now this. I don't believe in nothing no more man.


How does him being an ex-con affect anything - you used to shiat your pants every day for 2 years and noone holds that against you.
 
2013-05-16 10:06:49 PM  
This is gnarly, indeed! This happened just one town over from us.
 
2013-05-16 10:46:38 PM  

GiraffeWaffles: How does him being an ex-con affect anything - you used to shiat your pants every day for 2 years and noone holds that against you.


Are you telling me you don't understand the difference between that actions of every infant and the crimes of a grown man?
 
2013-05-16 11:01:20 PM  

scalpod: [img.photobucket.com image 420x320]

I'd hang my head in shame, but with this hairdo what's the point?


CAME HERE FOR THIS!!

/leaving satisfied!
 
2013-05-16 11:01:20 PM  
I had heard about him stopping that crazy guy but hadn't seen his interviews until just this morning. Then lo' and behold this headline pops up.

I admired the guy, and would've totally shared a joint with him given a chance. That this happened to him makes me sick. Even worse that he'll most likely get locked away like an animal as a result.

It seems that every time I find a little faith in mankind, something happens that reminds me that we're irredeemable.

I give up. fark the collective human race. Bring on the nuclear holocaust.
 
HKW
2013-05-16 11:28:21 PM  
Killed a sexual predator, and killed a lawyer..  Something about two birds and a stone here.

Trifecta will be "Not guilty be reason of temporary insanity"
 
2013-05-16 11:54:59 PM  
Go Kai!
Fark you farking Fark prosecuting trolls and I hope someday pics of you with man juice dripping out your mouths are what I remember you by...
/feels like for some reason I should've said rape three times?
//rape
///rape
////rape
 
2013-05-16 11:55:37 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: How many heroes will end up GOING DOWN this week?


Iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
 
2013-05-17 12:30:41 AM  
justifiable homicide or jury nullification.
//where's the hero tag?
 
2013-05-17 01:35:43 AM  

farkingismybusiness: I always wondered what happened to that kid. Now I know. Sad.


Really? No no no there are like 2 or 3 sequels to that book. I love that book. I always wanted to go live like that. Now i do... (seriously -- I'm in the middle of nowhere with only 3 hours of electricity a day and no running water and food is a once a month only by order thing.) The Hatchet is a fantastic book for young minds.

Archimedes' Principal: I'm going out on a limb and say something in Kai's past (molestation) triggered him to do this. IIRC, during an earlier interview, Kai mentioned something not too good happening in his past when he was younger.

/ If CNN and FOX can speculate, then so can I.


Well he was fostered by his grandparents and he didnt like talking about his biologicals...

Idk... idk.... having spent a good amount of time with the dude i have no idea... He has a flair for hyperbole but at the same time he's not an accomplished fibber. Depending on his mental health i wouldn't put turning tricks past him. I know he didnt mind switch hitting. He was very bisexual.

\I know because he told me a story about how his best friend got married and he was the best man and then the three of them went down to the beach and screwed. And he made direct mention of man on man action. I think he was trying gauge my reaction.
\\Lets just say i was polite and he never brought the subject up again.

He's a nice kid but he needs friends for support and guidance. I can see him getting more and more haywire the fewer people he had to rely on.

But just so you guys know - he swung both ways. Not that theres anything wrong with that or that it means it wasnt rape -- no consent is no consent. I'm just saying -- he had blown dudes before. It wouldnt have been some anti gay thing.
 
2013-05-17 07:08:14 AM  
Given that this guy has a history of being whackadoodle, I can't help but approach this with a bit of skepticism. I do think that drugging someone until they're not in their right mind to consent or unable to consent is wrong.

HOWEVER, I am also thinking of various other scenarios that entail Kai taking the drugs on his own account, getting into what seemed like a consensual encounter, passing out afterwards and blacking out on everything that happened. When he woke up, he freaked out and killed the guy, thinking he'd been drugged and raped. This might be incorrect, but I'm slightly leery about the fact that he supposedly killed the guy on Monday, didn't say anything about it until Tuesday (and made a joke about it!), and tried to flee the state. His fb post didn't exactly sound like he had any remorse or fear about it.
 
2013-05-17 09:16:09 AM  
"Dude, I LITERALLY got raped by a lawyer."

/there's a lot of people that wish this was the worst that was done to them by a lawyer
 
2013-05-17 03:18:17 PM  

Esroc: I had heard about him stopping that crazy guy but hadn't seen his interviews until just this morning. Then lo' and behold this headline pops up.

I admired the guy, and would've totally shared a joint with him given a chance. That this happened to him makes me sick. Even worse that he'll most likely get locked away like an animal as a result.

It seems that every time I find a little faith in mankind, something happens that reminds me that we're irredeemable.

I give up. fark the collective human race. Bring on the nuclear holocaust.


And just what are offering me to do this thing for you?
 
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