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2013-05-16 09:54:38 PM  
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leevis: hardinparamedic: leevis: He's not saying farkers liked the soviet union, just their ideology.

Who? That's what I'm asking. The ideology of leninistic/Stalinistic communism proved that it created an oligarchy far more oppressive than the previous system it vilified.

I can think of only one person on FARK who would even fit that bill, and both left, FARK Independants, and right posters on here hate him.

Other than that, I have not seen one serious post on FARK championing the soviet union, or it's ideologies.

The ideology is big government, and it's very much admired here on fark.


You're confusing "disgust with Republicans" with "likes big government."

Common error.
2013-05-16 08:28:37 PM  
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studs up: Can we, the rational, dispense with the notion that there is any real world example of functioning leftist (Marxist, communists, totalitarian, fascist, et al) government? They all fail and their people all suffer, tremendously. Supporters of these "causes" are willfully ignorant useful idiots that, for reasons that escape me, seem to desire the boot of govt on their throats. It's infantile and only USC profs and their ilk have time for such moronic exercises in theory as well as the potato need to give these idle whims any credence.


Who the hell actually takes Marxist/Leninist thought as serious political ideology anymore?

If you honestly think American (or Farker) leftists are advocating Marxist/Leninist ideology, you generally don't know what we're talking about.  Thinking modern leftists generally espouse communism is a pure strawman, even the vast majority of modern leftists see Marxism as a failure.  Communism is widely seen as a proven as a failure, with the USSR the textbook case study.

Socialism, on the other hand (as distinct from Communism) has proven successful in the list of countries shown time and time again.  Sweden, for example, has a robust cradle-to-grave welfare system, universal healthcare, universal higher education, and very low crime rates to go along with that.
2013-05-16 07:26:55 PM  
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fusillade762: studs up: Source4leko: studs up: hardinparamedic: hasty ambush: It was hard to come by in the Fark progressives' ideological homeland back in the day

"Immediately post-breakup, one of only two toilet paper factories in the entire USSR had been in Latvia. That meant that the remaining pieces of the Soviet empire lost that valuable resource in the first wave."

Who is this magical strawman liberal that idolized the Soviet Union, again? You know, the antithesis of everything that a social progressive holds dear?

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Sounds like a legit complaint. Any actual, real world "ideological homeland" for fark progs to point to as an example of functioning leftist policies that work? I want to get my trolls correct in the future.

How about Sweden?  Or Norway?  Or do they not count?

So we have Norway, Sweden, Japan and Switzerland. Anyone else?

Denmark. The Netherlands. Australia?


Australia? Really? OK...

Would you consider these countries [Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland (just to cap off the Nordic swath), Japan, Switzerland, and apparently Australia] to be leftist governments or center left democracies?
If you want to say that these are successful center left capitalists, I think you'll find agreement. If you want to call these havens of Marxists victories, you may find strong disagreements.
Can we, the rational, dispense with the notion that there is any real world example of functioning leftist (Marxist, communists, totalitarian, fascist, et al) government? They all fail and their people all suffer, tremendously. Supporters of these "causes" are willfully ignorant useful idiots that, for reasons that escape me, seem to desire the boot of govt on their throats. It's infantile and only USC profs and their ilk have time for such moronic exercises in theory as well as the potato need to give these idle whims any credence.
Center left capitalists however, seem to be able to walk a fine line between redistribution and freedom. Sometimes it works, sometimes it over reaches. The center right constantly struggles to allow more freedom as a counter balance in these govts. This struggle between the center left and center right are good for there people to establish both freedom and security in balance.
These Che Guevara loving morons should be mocked at every opportunity including the South American swath of leftist failures.
2013-05-16 05:35:10 PM  
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That's because they used it all cleaning up after Chavez.
2013-05-16 05:04:12 PM  
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hasty ambush: It was hard to come by in the Fark progressives' ideological homeland back in the day

"Immediately post-breakup, one of only two toilet paper factories in the entire USSR had been in Latvia. That meant that the remaining pieces of the Soviet empire lost that valuable resource in the first wave."


Who is this magical strawman liberal that idolized the Soviet Union, again? You know, the antithesis of everything that a social progressive holds dear?

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2013-05-16 04:50:37 PM  
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2013-05-16 03:47:13 PM  
1 vote:
I blame Johnny Carson
 
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